Agree but remember before 7 Oct no one in the west particularly Americans knew or cared about history of Palestine and how the state of isnreal was formed. This is essentially a 76 years of education in a very short time. You need to educate the tax paying people regardless of what's happening on the ground. No change? Keep talking about about it! 1. Talk about it on social media 2. BDS
An old man with inbuilt integrity. People like John Maersheimer, ago is not a number. It's a cherished asset valued. God bless you for your truthfulness Pop
My friend was a reporter in 1982 and went to Israel to do a story. When she returned she was in tears and told us a horrific story about how the Palestinians were being treated by the Israelis. Before that we thought it were the Palestinians who were the bad guys. But she confirmed how horrible that situation was at that time. Now everything is so confusing.
@@adamb.m4844 No. I am just analyzing. You would also lose your good manners immediately, if you risk your life all day long. The situation is, that the jews will not leave Israel and they have tanks and nuclear bombs. Palestinians waste their time.
@@antithesespistopheles8112 True. We have yet to discuss the "holy" books. The books that they are using to justify all of this violence. No one talks so much about that...do they? You ever hear the Pope mention it? I don't. Vengeance is MINE...so sayeth the Lord. Isn't that about all there is left to say? All these dead women and children. All because of RELIGION. Wow. That IS really dumb. And what do the religions use to back up their VIOLENCE? Their "holy" books. How "holy"? God doesn't write books. Do they think God wrote a book? Why would they think that? But hey, let's not mention how the evangelical crowd loves to cheer on a "holy" war. And let's not forget that DJT has a hard-on for power. And his daughter is Jewish. So there is a long way to go. And...let's not EVER forget the "King of the Jews". Remember that guy? They did their best to kill him not so long ago. In fact, they actually believe that they DID kill him. They did no such thing. Did they? Jesus Christ is VERY hard to kill. Netanyahoo should pick up a BIBLE. Maybe he can finally CLOCK IN. Or not. He has PLENTY of company. Doesn't he? You believe in Jesus... Don't you? Do you really think that you can avoid the Messiah? Jesus did not read the Bible. Did he? How? And let's not forget the secret that the Catholic Church is sitting on... ...get close to the screen...are you listening? Good. This is EASY... JESUS is in the QURAN. Yep. Can you believe it? It is hard to DENY. I guess it will all be revealed soon enough. Jesus Christ NEVER died. No one dies. Ever. You can KILL yourself if you so desire. It won't matter. God will be there regardless. Sorry about that. I guess killing God didn't work out so well. Good luck with broadcasting the Truth to MORONS. I hope they KILL us all. Just make it SNAPPY. We can all BURN together. Along with our children. Doesn't that sound like fun? Put the family dog into your bomb shelter. ...you may have to eat dog-burgers. Or...you can BELIEVE in G-O-D. Your choice. I'm not the boss of you. Am I?
That was an atrocious false paraphrase of George Orwell: "The worst Lie is Omission. It is the duty of Historians to make sure that those lies do not creep into the History books" The Orwell Foundation Archives Foundation.
Mearsheimer is a racist pure and simple . 👎🏻 he loves to pick on Israel . Yes Israel has some darkness in its past . Humans do bad things to each other 🙄 And zionists is a over generalization . I prefer the words nationalist and ultranationalist . Israel has had and has some ultranationalists but that don’t mean majority are . Mearsheimer is a Jewish sounding name so could easily think he is like Norman Frankenstein or other reverse racist Jews 🙄 But it appears he is German not Jewish and Irish decent . So fine Israel was doing some bad things back then . Around same time Professors ancestors are killing six million Jews and lots of other people and we can’t really say all Germans were Nazis can we ? Oh his Irish side 🙄 IRA also did plenty of civilian terror type attacks like Hamas and Irgun . But we want to believe all Gazans are not terrorists and all Irish were not . What country has no dark history ? US had slavery 😖 Muslim nations 🙄 millions killed “ infidels “ in 1400 years of Islam conquest , forced conversion , slavery , child marriage and peiophilia 👎🏻😖 Many nations are conquered nations . Occupied and genocidal acts done to the native populations a lot of the time . You hypocrites live in nations like this ? Are you Native American ? Katie ? Aaron ? Mearsheimer ? Then you should immediately leave the US you are occupiers 🙄 And US has plenty of genocidal acts in history . But do you know the Natives were not peaceful 🙄 Tribes constantly attacked each other and took slaves etc . Humans do what humans do . Israel is not perfect but it’s a lot better than countries like Iran , Russia , China , North Korea and many African countries . And Islam is not a religion of peace history proves that . Jewish history is much more peaceful .
Hard to imagine a better, clearer, more cogent summary than this. Agrees with what I’ve learned over the last forty years from a variety of political and historical sources.
Benny Morris' Origins of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, Ilan Pappe's The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, and the RU-vid film 1948: Creation and Catastrophe, all provide truth in different degrees, the film being the most chilling.
I was always told that the 6 Day war happened because Israel was attacked by its neighbors, but recently, somebody from Israel stated that the IDF perpetrated a 'Pre-Emptive Strike', which meant they started it because they said they feared an attack.....
@@hunger4jsutice Sure their neighbors were all peaceful nations 🙄 Quran strategy of war is to lie and deceive and to break peace treaties when enemies least expect 🙄🙄
This is why, I question the events the events that “happened” in WW2. How can you go from that and justify doing ethnic cleansing against any other people?
Why were wealthy German Zionists (deemed "capitalists") allowed to emigrate from Germany to Palestine through the Hanotea Company and Haavara Transfer Agreement? Who was Baron Leopold von Mildenstein?
I don't see it as surprising at all. We have an idea from Christianity that suffering makes us better. Maybe for a saintly few... not the majority. Sadly the persecuted will often imitate their persecutors once they are in power.
Israel was willing to live peacefully alongside the Palestinians. Israel accepted the partition plans.. the Palestinians and the Arabs chose to go to war with Israel in 1948. They lost that war and they lost land.. honestly you don’t get to start war and then complain when you lose and then you lose land. That’s happened in every single war.
It's important to remember that the creation of Israel wasn't caused by WW2, though the number of refugees and world sentiment certainly helped to make it possible. Zionism had already existed for decades in Palestine, and as Benny Morris wrote the idea of a population "transfer" was "in-built into Zionism" to the extent that it involved "transform[ing] a land which was 'Arab' into a 'Jewish' state and a Jewish state could not have arisen without a major displacement of Arab population."
@@yaelz6043 "The Nazis made me Afraid to be Jewish, and the Zionists make me Ashamed to be Jewish " Dr Israel Shalak, Historian, and Holocaust Survivor...
The Jews were systematically hunted down by the Nazis, incarcerated in death camps and intentionally murdered: men, women, children and babies. They had nowhere to escape, since most of Europe was under Nazi occupation. That's what true genocide looks like. There is no comparison to what happened to the Arabs in 1948. They had the choice to stay or leave, the Jews didn't.
Katie, thank you for inviting Prof. Mearsheimer to share his views on the current Israeli policy. Greatest respect for both of you. You are amazing people! ❤️
He seems to conveniently leave out that the 22 contiguous Islamic states comprise area twice the continental US and have a population of 500 million. Israel is 1/50th that population and is less than 1/2 the size of San Bernardino County, California. HOW THE F is Israel, not Syria/Iran/Libya/Afghanistan....the problem for Muslims?! Going by BODY COUNT ALONE?!
Which begs the question: were they a genocide victim in 1945 to begin with? I’m not jumping to conclusions, but I guess it’s time for people to ask that question and have that conversation openly without being called antisemites or deniers.
I don't see it as surprising at all. We have an idea from Christianity that suffering makes us better. Maybe for a saintly few... not the majority. Sadly the persecuted will often imitate their persecutors once they are in power.
Respectfully, it is shocking to me that someone of Mearsheimer's stature and reputation can cover the appalling history or Israel without mentioning the word "British" even once. It was the British who facilitate the entire project. It was Lord Palermston who first proposed (in very cynical terms) the creation of a Jewsih homeland in Palestine as a cover for British geopolitical designs. Meatsheimer's omission is so glaring that I wonder if he is not (wittingly or.unwittingly) some sort.if disinformation asset. It is absolutely impossible to understand Israel without locating it in the context of British imperialism. The British seized Palestine in 1917. The British set up the awful mechanisms of ethnic cleansing. It was the British who sold what was not theirs to sell. We see Britain shaping events in Israel and the Middle East from 1840 until.the present. Please get the whole.story straight. Omitting the decisive, defining and guiding role of the British presents a lopsided and incoherent picture!
Well obviously bc it doesn't matter other than historically. Britain has no control over Israel now. Britain has very clearly been removed from the Jewish version of the glorified tale of Israel thus far. Why is it even relevant? If the Jews didn't want Israel bc it was inhabited they could have told Britain "No" but they didn't. Also, don't you understand it was Jews in Britain that perpetuated the colonial movements to that area in the first place? LMFAO wake up
Thank you for the heads up. When you're trying to find the truth it certainly is important to start at the beginning and leave no stone unturned. I am not inclined to think he's actively misleading. I think he's refuting the narrative which starts in 1948 most of the time.
You mean Balfour and Rothschild? Those Brits that transferred Palestine to the Zionist Jews so that the Jews could set up their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians?
@@autonomousindividual7780 I tend to agree with you. I don't think it's intentional. But he is an academic and most information regarding the British role is creating Israel and shaping (through skullduggery largely) the Middle East is assiduously ignored by the academic mainstream. I have to think it is programmed this way. But, at any rate, the intense confusion and misdirection around Gaza needs to be alleviated if we are to proceed sensibly. And, without seeing it as an extremely tragic result of British imperialism, this needless confusion is not likely to go away, leaving room for similar future tragedies. The only region that is honestly coming to terms with the legacy and ongoing abuses related to European imperialism is Africa. They are absolutely frank about it and are plotting a new path forward. This is what is needed. Frankness and alternatives.
Or the Palestinian and nazi-Germany collab. Palestinian mufti Amin al-Husseini eventually met with Hitler and Ribbentrop in 1941, he assured Hitler that "The Arabs were Germany's natural friends because they had the same enemies... namely the English, the Jews, and the Communists". Hitler was pleased with him, considering him "the principal actor in the Middle East" and an Aryan because of al-Hussaini's fair skin, blond hair and blue eyes.
OK perhaps this is a stupid question but, he's a war criminal and coming here is against the law. Couldn't we as concerned law abiding citizens call the police or fbi and report him as there. Not that the police don't know but wouldn't they have to respond to the call .. or calls
@@SeanCrosser America's top people have no say in this matter. If someone decides to arrest him, that's going to happen, regardless of what comes out of congress
The USA does not recognize the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court. They can say whatever they want, but the US says, 'You and what army?'
There is no genocide. The Holocaust was a genocide. Hamas made 7/10 in order to get as many dead civilians as possible in order to market themselves as victims. Hamas needs to be destroyed. And this is not possible without collateral damages.
@Me-pf8yz Let's predict the number of ovations he will get this time. When Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addresses a joint session of the U.S. Congress, he typically receives numerous standing ovations. For instance, during his 2011 address, he received 29 standing ovations. In his 2015 speech, which focused heavily on criticizing the Iran nuclear deal, Netanyahu was awarded 26 standing ovations These enthusiastic responses highlight the strong support he often garners from U.S. lawmakers, particularly on matters related to security and U.S.-Israel relations.
No, the first ethnic cleansing in Palestine was done by the UK prior to 1948 where several hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were already removed from their homes put on forced marches to internment camps. Many were executed if they showed any resistance. 1948 wasn't a transfer of zionists, the zionists were already there and had Colonial settlements already established on the lands that were vacated by Palestinians during the original cleansing done by the uk. The people that were brought to Palestine when Israel was created were actual jews, not Zionist. The zionists had been collaborating with the Nazis and that's why they were given Authority in the new colonial state of Israel to rule over actual common European jews. And does European Jews themselves were victims of ethnic cleansing because the whole reason for setting up Israel in 1948 was to ethnically cleanse Europe of as many Jews as possible as they were finally being released out of concentration camps after being left there for years without so much as an attempt of Rescue by white Christian Western governments. And once they were released those same white Christian Western governments decided that they weren't going to return these for Jews to their homes and properties in Europe, and ethnically cleanse them to the Zionist Colonial settlements that the UK had been facilitating for 30 years prior to 1948. When the UK was given governance over Palestine after World War 1 they were given the responsibility to guide the Palestinians to a single non-secular Democratic state and instead they ethnically cleanse the Palestinians and brought in a bunch of European Jews to fill out the numbers so that they could have a population majority in the region that was willing and easily manipulated because of language and cultural differences. They believed everything they were told and couldn't understand the Arabs to be able to know any different. They were tools and victims. They were not zionists.
Those Brits were geniuses. Imagine knowing 30 years before it happened that they would need to do so much preparation. They must have been gods among men to plan so far ahead so sucessfully. I wonder why they didn't see so many other things that happened.
I call bull$hit. The Zionists and plain old Jews were ethnically cleansing Palestinians since the Europeans arrived.The last thing the Jews were is victims concerning the Palestinians as we see very much today.
@@ronsmyth2005 Those who plannned ahead the construction of their State Nation were the ones who had enough with being Jews: the Zionists. They began since the 19th century. Since the Otoman Empire refused to give them Palestina, the Zionists joint the Brtish to defeat the Otoman Empire.
He hasn't mentioned specifics but the two world wars were also zionist conspiracies and Holocaust might be part of their plan as well. A sacrifice to attain the ultimate goal
I’m confused, Katie. It appears that Theodor Herzl did not believe in God or in Judaism. So how is it he claimed Jews should have their own state given to them by God?
Abraham Rothschild invented 3 religions and fractional reserve fiat currency. his zionist minions (IMF money addicts) are engaged in a proxy war to kill the planet in their quest for money.
Look up this Rabbi Yacov Shapiro... I may be mistaking his last name. From NY. He goes in great detail how herzl was an atheist and how he hated orthodox jews.
“Now, in 1997, one hundred years after the first Zionist Congress, it is clear that the vast majority of Jews in the United States, Western Europe and other countries reject the Zionist understanding of Jewish identity, just as the vast majority of Jews did one hundred years ago. Those who are now engaged in the celebration of this 100th anniversary would do well to pause and consider how prophetic the Jewish critics of Zionism have been. It is not too late to learn some of the lessons they attempted to articulate. Judaism, they deeply believed, is a universal faith dedicated to God, not a narrow nationalism or a tribal religion. That faith and its moral and ethical teachings can indeed be a "light" to men and women of every race and nation, a dream far larger and far different from the one which motivated Theodor Herzl and his colleagues in Basel in 1897.” I’m understanding that Theodor Herzl’s Zionist belief was one of a political nature rather than religious.
Thank you for both of your educational & fascinating shares of the making of Israel, John & Katie. May there be some sort of resolution from all this carnage, destruction & deaths. Bless you both for your great work!👍🙏🙂☮️🌏‼️
I am not willing to take sides. I want the U.S. to disengage. Israel is not part of the U.S., and I am not willing to provide for the defense of Israel. No aid for Israel. No aid for Gaza. Walk away.
Anyone who opposes Israel or Netanyahu’s war strategy, supports Hamas and doesn’t believe Israel has a “right to defend itself” and is therefore ANTI-SEMETIC according to the media/lobby.
But our country has clearly taken sides. Our money is paying for the weapons that Israel is using in Gaza. As Americans we are complicit in the crimes of Israel. I hate it but that is true. I have written my representatives. Have you? They might throw your letters in the trash like I am sure they did mine. But if all of us write--Let's face it: they will have to change. We are also going to have to make monetary contributions to candidates who will put our interests first. I am not very religious, but if there is a judgement day, I want to be able to say I did something. I should be hoping to say that I did all I could do, but I want to be able to at least say I did something.
There's evidence we didn't know what was going on in 1948? The predecessors of the IDF, the Irgun and the Lehi, began massacres in 1937 and declared war on Britain, began bombing their hotels and police garrisons after the 1939 British White Paper came out. The Lehi assassinated a UN negotiator trying to broker peace during the Nakbah in 1948. That was the same year Albert Einstein and 25 other scientific luminaries took out a full page ad in the NYT telling American Jews not to support the emigration of Jews to Palestine because Menachem Begin, the leader of the Irgun was running “a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist regimes". If Americans didn't know by 1949 it's because they didn't care enough to find out or didn't want to know. Same problem we have today.
Ofra Haza and missing Yemeni Jewish children and her death shortly after exposing it in a film called Tzedek Muchlat “(Primal Justice)” that was shadow banned after it’s release and then Ofra Haza suddenly dies by AIDS after that movie.
Nonsense! Americans lives are no more valuable than anyone else’s. This land mass called America shares the same planet as every other country. Your outdated, myopic numb skull perspective doesn’t even serve Americans, let alone anyone else.
If I didn't know better, I might think this is the same message Clare Daly has been telling, even if in more academic and less emotive framing. Deny, reverse, blame the victim as if the abuser?
well apelstianians tried sveral times but got defeated.doesnt mean they cant try again with soimeone powerfull but wse dotn see anyone willing to pick up the fight for them and ivnade israel.
I really wonder, will anyone in there do the right thing and make a *"citizen's arrest"* based on the ICC ruling? It would be the ethical thing to do, right?
tats right its the romans fault. no one believe Rome fell over 1000 years ago, no, they still exist and are behind this. you go spread that truth of yours
Wow. Another turn in media censorship. For those retired like me who can't afford Patreon contributions to many many people, we'll be left in the dark. Great
The activities of the Stern Gang and Irgun have been very buried in western historiography, although they were bound up with the actual creation of the modern state of Israel and some of the guys involved went on to become spresidents, generals and prime ministers of Israel decades later.
Yes pure murdering thugs became their presidents, generals and prime ministers. Study their Ukrainian ancestors, who came early to start their genocide of what we all called The Holy Land. A historic area, for the whole world to come and worship there. Yes, all religious people and where my family early came as pilgrims and met people who all earlier lived in peace. Ruined as so often by secular, atheists lost in a collaboration by politicians working with moneychangers over the black gold (oil) findings, Like always with greed ruthlessly colonizing others by murder, luting, lies and genocide. This all for power and control. The world never needed more wars either, only the ones who make money on selling war material. So there is always more to the story and that is what people should study and learn. Just find out where the people involved all came from. Their family and ancestors as well etc. That’s 🎉interesting eyeopening material. Again there is always more to the story, as in WW1 and 2. The borders were changed in the Russian Empire after the Bolshevik Revolution, that brought in and enslaved the Russians under Communism and thereby changed borders in the former Empire. Then one can see the whole picture what then became Poland, Belarus and Ukraine.
Israeli archives but they keep it secret. There are many references though and you LL have to piece together the puzzle. The agreements between British and french after WW1, balfore declaration, British war against ottomans who held the Palestine territory, two world wars and events leading to them, holocaust, protocols of Zion, history of Herzl, the European war between protestants and Catholics, establishment of bank of england. These will help you understand.
@@syazwanjufri5088 the link will take you to a controversial document which Israeli lobbyists cry out as antisemitic but if you read it and have an idea of what has transpired in the world till now in politics, media, laws, economy, than you will understand that there is lot of truth in this document which came out of Russia in 19th century. 1- Wars between protestants and Catholics in Europe. The disagreements on legalization of usury between them. 2- Establishment of bank of england in protestant england. 3- British war against Ottoman Turks in middle east. 4- The british-French agreement to divide middle east in various kingdoms at end of WW1. 5- British Belfore declaration to create a Jewish state. 6- Lands bought by Jewish people in Palestine controlled by Ottoman Turks. 7- Jewish role in Bolshevik revolution in Russia. 8- Theodore Herzl 9- Rise of Facists in Italy and Germany and rise of antisemitism causing Jewish migration. 10- Holocaust and post WW2 mass Jewish emigration to Palestine. 9
He is correct, however teo things that changed our news first is the amount of information that we have access to (internet), coupled with truly independent news who just spearing facts. Thus Nakba kept coming up from different reports so I researched it 👀. Followed by what other lies have they spread. Control the information, control the outcome! 🙏🏽💪🏾
The gap between the public opinion and public policies has never been bigger. It's very interesting to see how USA Israel relations will change in the upcoming decades.
Really?? We were all able to talk about the subject matter 20 years ago freely when the internet wasn't heavily gated nor scrutinised by META etc as it is today!! While everybody's talking the talk Israel, Russian and the USA are all walking the walk..
Basically there is no difference between Gaza and the Jewish ghetto in Warsaw. No Palestinian is allowed in or out without an "ausweis"; Israel controls the energy and water supply; Palestinians are not even allowed to go fishing at sea; Palestinians don't fall under civil law, they fall under Israeli military law. And if you protest against it, they call you an antisemite. By the way, Professor Mearsheimer is an intelligent and charming guy, but as a "realpolitiker" he usually says geo-politics are not about good and bad. It's about big powers doing what is in their interest. In this case support Israel as the only real ally in the Middle East. As far as Congress is concerned... as long as Aipac finances the election campaigns of candidate congress members, congress will keep doing what Aipac tells them to do.
Jews need a state of their own. It's a small sliver of land. The Gazans have a large amount of territory and countries where they can choose to live. If the two sides can't get along with each other, they shouldn't live next to each other. The Gazans have literally been sending rockets / missiles / mortar shells, you name it at Israel each and every year since 2001-2024 that I know of. Probably goes back before the year 2001, it's just that's what I've seen in our favorite online encyclopedia.
Look into who runs IT security companies and their clients, very big names, critical industries. Also those who are part of (invests) in resource dev't off Gaza coast. Recall Nordstream, rhetoric on anything supplied by Russia, but Israel seems to have access to very sensitive data. How separate are companies from Gov in a militarized society like Isreal- topic for conversation- would be good to know re: risks and how that affects countries seeming non-action.
