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John Piper - Idolatry 

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@Myjesus-1
@Myjesus-1 Год назад
Sin is idolotry: “For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also,” (Matthew 6:21).
@cambrielb
@cambrielb Год назад
Sounds like mastering contentment in Yahweh is what will overcome this.
@abigaildelany3604
@abigaildelany3604 6 лет назад
Thank you for this most informational and Biblical Truth. We must conquer 'idolatry'. Our main desire should be to 'Love the Lord thy God with all your heart, with all your mind and with all your soul.' He will make sure that you get what you 'need'. Sharing with a Bible Forum. Blessings on your wonderful Ministry unto our Lord Jesus Christ. 'My God shall supply all your needs according to His riches in glory.' NEEDS, not always 'wants'.
@MrUnfamilia
@MrUnfamilia 9 месяцев назад
I like the Pastor's demonstrations, its humourous and educational
@mpesce6667
@mpesce6667 Год назад
Thank you. Just what I needed to hear
@dennisrichardson9831
@dennisrichardson9831 5 лет назад
Ronald Nash was a member of Piper's church. Nash spoke of Idolatry other people possessions
@NYGiantsDiEhArD
@NYGiantsDiEhArD 4 года назад
To any of my Christian brothers and sisters out there, would somebody want to help a man out with some insight? I have a question for ya'll. How is one supposed to act with will and intentionality in the world if everything you privilege that isn't God himself is prone to being idolatry? How do you discipline yourself to study, flourish at your job or train at your sport with intense rigor if you are to be with Christ? How are you supposed to embrace life and strive with all you have at living effortfully if your first step out of the church doors is towards the world? Can you actually try at ANYTHING in this life that isn't waving your hand helplessly while others ACT? Why did Christ love losers more than winners? Was this automatic, such that it's better to be a worldly loser than to have idolatrous winning habits, or was it that the current winners of his time were corrupt, ie the phrase is contextual? Strict Christians, seemingly especially evangelicals, seem to have a way of degrading the world and the human spirit, whereas others, such as famous athletes who bring up faith in an interview, imply God as their very source of it. The latter, for example, train with all their might as if to do it for the glory of God, or as if their glory at their career is God's glory one and the same (through his faith), whereas the former seems to place God's glory as territorial and to make yourself dwindle in submission to. I'm not sure which interpretation is correct; the former scares me, as it seems to threaten my life-preserving instincts that I'm reluctant to deny, and frankly goes against all of my previously-held convictions towards personal responsibility, self-efficacy, will, sacrifice, ambition, nobility, etc. I don't plan on living this life as a loser who is now the winner because of a cheap slight of hand, a moral inversion wherein to be a grand person, to thrive in the world, to work hard and struggle, is flipped on its head, and portrayed as a form of evil profoundness. To be active, hungry for something, to strive, is now to be condemned by the person who is standing still for being weak and desperate in the first place. To want to do and become something, in this Christian view, is now weaker than the purity of wanting and doing nothing at all; if you're a true Christian, you should be fulfilled through Christ, and to do or strive for any more will threaten your salvation. Perhaps I missed something; I hope this faith doesn't promote this sort of message. I feel disappointed that it may be. I used to think this was so petty and weak-deed. It's the sort of thing the jealous and unsuccessful say in protest of the rich and successful, that after all their work and accomplishments, they were arbitrarily wrong. Morality is then passive in nature; it's what you DON'T do that gets you salvation, and in this respect, it's far too easy and boring. It's now better to be mediocre and not work hard, for anything that can get you working so hard must be an idol, and God hates idols that aren't him or Jesus. What do you all think? Did I get something wrong? If this is the case, that my idea is correct, I will still take Jesus and the Lord into my heart and learn to like it. But for now, and from the world, I hope not.
@user-fp6rn2km4i
@user-fp6rn2km4i 4 года назад
Did you ever get the answer? I'm asking myself the same thing. I'm worried about applying my mind to something that isn't prayer, Evangelism or Bible reading. I've always had the desire of sculpting my body. Bodybuilding. I've now given it up because of my fear of committing idolatry. All those years of training and now my achievements are going to nothing. I no longer have a Hobbie. Please let me know if you have the answer.
@jamarcwv11
@jamarcwv11 4 года назад
Maybe you guys could use those hobbies as avenues to spread the gospel. You put the Lord first in all your ways, when you meet people on the way (during your hobbies) the light of Christ will shine through you and could give you a way to speak about our savior. Jesus said his burden is easy and his yoke is light, there are a lot of ways our brains tend to over complicate the simplicity of the gospel. Never forget you have open access to speak to the LORD God through his son Jesus Christ. It's not idolatry unless you're putting something over the Lord or bowing to a false god, I'm a new Christian so maybe something I've said is misspoken but if youve accepted Christ as you Lord he will not forsake you.
@user-fp6rn2km4i
@user-fp6rn2km4i 4 года назад
@@jamarcwv11 Thank you for your response. I'm happy to hear you're a Christian now.
@36742650885
@36742650885 3 года назад
Please pray for me I need your intercession please
@Lili-Benovent
@Lili-Benovent 2 года назад
I have two different spirits within my body, I love them and they love me. They speak to me most nights in my dreams. Dari makes my life fun and provides me with a life of plenty. Bix is my protector and keeps me safe wherever I go. Lord Ahriman has given me two spirits of fun and safety and I thank him with this prayer. O Lord Ahriman, the dark is yours and we are yours, your disciples honor you with an offering of blood, salt, water. Guide us through our lives and show us the enlightenment known to your people throughout the ages. Blessed be.
@harvey1676
@harvey1676 Год назад
Take your meds
@Lili-Benovent
@Lili-Benovent Год назад
@@harvey1676 Oh I have taken my meds, I began breakfast this morning with some peyote and qualudes, then a few joints, going on for lunchtime with half a bottle of Wild Turkey and then some hard stuff to see me through to dinner time. Wouldn't you like to join me? ........
@CJ-dt5mh
@CJ-dt5mh Год назад
@@Lili-Benovent the knowledge of right & wrong is given to every man in their conscience. The word conscience is formed by two Latin words..con/with & science knowledge If you have ever had any take action against their conscience towards you, you know & judge the behavior as wrong Now is the time to understand that your conscience is God’s law on your heart (Romans ch 2) & you are guilty. A judge makes a ruling on violations of law, not compliance. A payment is necessary or else you go to jail. Spiritual jail is hell & you have no currency to pay God bc He has given & created all things Therefore accept Jesus’ offering on your behalf friend. He would have died just for you if you were the only one to believe bc He loves you. He was sinless bc He is God. He rose from the day on the third day (after taking the keys from hades & death) bc He is God. Accept His grace & be high on His Holy Spirit. It will put all them other drugs to shame. Or don’t I just shared bc I care & am no better friend ❤
@Lili-Benovent
@Lili-Benovent Год назад
@@CJ-dt5mh I would dispute your first sentence, the knowledge of right and wrong is a product of our environment and not instilled in people's minds by the invisible guy in the sky. Natives in New Guinea were head hunters and cannibals right up to the 1950s, if children are taught that killing members of neighboring tribes, eating them and taking their heads is right then it wouldn't worry their conscience for their whole lives and therefore it would be right, however if they stole one of their own tribesmen's wives then they would be castigated by the tribe and killed, that is also considered right. FEELING GUILTY ABOUT BEING A SINNER? Well you don't have to worry anymore because there is no such thing as sin, it doesn't exist and you can now go about your life free from feelings of guilt, anxiety, paranoia, unworthiness and fear. Sin is a concept dreamed up by the purveyors of religion, its purpose is to keep you under control, make you fearful of a terrible future after your death, but most importantly sin was devised as a method of keeping you tithing to the parasites who have been keeping you in fear, the more money you paid them the less guilt and fear you felt. Laws are devised and legislated by Governments for the welfare and protection of their constituents, they are the only laws we need to observe. The multitude of religious laws called "sin" are not recognized by our Courts except where they are duplicated in common law. Laws that govern our citizens are not there because they have been written into that old contradictory book called the bible, they are there because of our needs for natural justice, they are debated and voted upon before being legislated or changed. If our laws were based on the concept of "sin" each and every one of us would spend a good deal of our lives in prison, thinking bad thoughts would be punishable by the State, looking at people of the opposite sex with desire would make us criminals, Etc. etc. etc. etc. So now that you are free from all those guilty feelings there is no need to give any more of your hard earned money to parasitic Preachers, Priests, Pastors or any church, you can keep it all, then you can begin enjoying your life doing all the things you were warned about by religious fanatics, you are instantly free of all their nonsense.
@CJ-dt5mh
@CJ-dt5mh Год назад
@@Lili-Benovent my mom & stepdad used to argue & I knew it was wrong In fact, I knew that divorce was wrong too when I was under 10 years old bc I could see how bad it hurt my dad’s feelings Believe what you want but it doesn’t change the truth I’m just sharing bc I care & want to see you free in Christ He delivered me from substances aslo
@christeah12157
@christeah12157 10 лет назад
What sermon does this come from?
@laurakgregory4336
@laurakgregory4336 7 лет назад
Hi the Lord has showed me that self is and has always been the greatest roadblock between us and God. the greatest idol ever built worshiped. God in His foreknowledge saw this as did Jesus but for their great love proceeded with their perfect creation. The Lord is holy righteous true merciful and LOVE
@alicewong87
@alicewong87 5 лет назад
Does anyone have the complete version of this sermon? I'm in great need of it.
@AnonMedic
@AnonMedic 3 года назад
A year late, better than never I'll send you a link to it, but I have to get back to work (helping someone move). Reply to this so i don't forget to drop that Link later. I downloaded this sermon long ago...prayers sent for God's will in your life fam. May Jesus bless you
@AnonMedic
@AnonMedic 3 года назад
I think it's from this sermon... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CjEOrrpU7_Q.html
@Kekeke230kekeke
@Kekeke230kekeke Год назад
@@AnonMediccan u send it to me too
@carolzz7996
@carolzz7996 Месяц назад
0:23
@bruceg.6282
@bruceg.6282 6 лет назад
so true
@gordo13371
@gordo13371 2 года назад
How do you conquer it.
@noneone8726
@noneone8726 3 года назад
If the message of Jesus is forgiveness and love, why do ALL christians spend ALL of their time eagerly judging and persecuting others? What is a god? What is the definition? Do you agree or disagree: 1. god created EVERYthing 2. god KNOWS everything 3. god is all powerful and can do anything 4. god is perfect by definition and therefore cannot make mistakes Do you agree to all that? Then why pray? God can read your mind and already knows what you feel and think. If a god can do ANYTHING, why is there any need for books, churches, prayers, singing, prophets, preachers, bible study, religious debate, saviors, miracles, televangelists, signs, angels or any other nonsense? A god could and would communicate UNAMBIGOUSLY and LOGICALLY, directly to each individual. How do you account for the reality that there are literally dozens of churches who say emphatically that ALL the other churches are LIARS? How do you account for the literally hundreds of self contradictions within the christian bible? How do you account for the fact that there are literally dozens of versions of this supposedly perfect bible? If the bible is so great, why is it so ridiculously ambiguous, irrational, hateful, and self contradicting? Why is it so easy to "prove" LITERALLY ANYTHING YOU WANT by selectively quoting the bible? Again, an all powerful god could and would communicate without intermediaries in an unambiguous logical fashion. Where is the objective, factual, tangible, rational and scientifically verifiable PROOF of the existence of your god? "it says so in this old book" Yeah, well it says that you can come back to life in the Egyptian Book of The Dead, a MUCH older book.....so do you believe that one also? What kind of a god would be petty enough to require you to grovel or beg? If you are "sinful" ---WHO CREATED YOU? Who CREATED SIN? What kind of sadist would create a world like that? Why would you obey, even worship, a sadist? If the message of Jesus is forgiveness and love, why do ALL christians spend ALL of their time eagerly judging and persecuting others? If heaven is so great, and you love god so much, why don't you just hurry up and kill yourself to go there? The entire history of christianity is one of perpetual WAR, torture, famine, plague, poverty and ignorance.....look it up some time. Crusades, 100 years war, dark ages, pogroms, Kosovo, Ireland, etc etc etc. It never ends. The bottom line is, superstition, aka religion, is an insult to all humanity. The sledgehammering reality is, christian con men prey on the poor, the frightened and the Low IQ trailer trash who are so desperate that they will latch onto anything that offers some shred of hope.....jesus, heroin, multi level marketing scams, infomercials, nascar, country music, beer, World Wresting Federation, cigarettes, incest, the KKK, guns, WalMart, moonshine, donald trump......BIBLE BELT, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, reagan, hitler POVERTY, IGNORANCE ( low IQ) and CHRISTIANITY are all one and the same thing. christianity preys on the weak and the stupid and the fearful. It is EVIL, pure and simple. Notice that the old (senile, afraid of dying) and the female (use emotions instead of logic to make decisions) are the prime targets of christian churches? Note the FACT that these churches are EAGER to condemn others, EAGER to stir up your emotions, EAGER to distract you.......just like trump, just like hitler. It's all about bigotry, fear, conforming. You can ignore your own flaws if you focus on the flaws of others.........religion is Evil. Do you not GET IT? This is how Hitler and Trump got power, by creating SCAPEGOATS. ALL RELIGION IS LIES, fantasy, irrationality.....the Very Worst that a human being could become: insane, guided only by emotion, not Objective Logic. Guided by delusions, by feelings. As low as an animal, subhuman. That is a religious person. If anything or anyone attempts to use your FEELINGS to control you, murder that person. If anyone, such as myself, attempts to use OBJECTIVE LOGIC to speak to you, listen.
@HeathenGranny
@HeathenGranny 2 года назад
This is funny
@fernandogallardo3458
@fernandogallardo3458 5 лет назад
In Ex.20:3-5, God explains what is idolatry ? Where you think are the nation's idols of today ? Do you think the nation's idols were done with, and no longer around ? According to God in Ex.20:3-5, an idol is a god for worship...Is there any difference between worshipping an idol and serving an idol ? Is there any difference between bowing down to an idol or standing up for an idol ? Whatever happened to the nation's idols of wood and stone ? Can you see the nation's idols high and lifted up on a flag pole, or are you blinded ? God is going to smash the nation's idols high and lifted up on a flag pole...God is going to smash the god of the US, the star spangled of heaven and bald eagle of the earth...God is going to smash the god of Israel, the star remphan of heaven acts 7:43...God is going to smash the god of Mexico, the eagle and serpent of the earth...God is going to smash the god of Canada, the leaf of the maple tree of the earth...God is going to smash the god of Japan, the sun god of heaven...The nation's idols are in the flags and the flags are high and lifted up on a flag pole...The nation's idols of wood and stone were replaced with idols of fabric...The nation's idolatry is through the pledge of allegiance to the flag and anthem...When the king of Babylon the great played the anthem at the sound of music the Babylonians fell down on the ground and worship the statue of the golden image...Today, when the US plays the anthem at the sound of music the US citizens stand on their feet to sing ol glory to the star spangled of heaven...Nation's that exalt themselves to be great, God is going to bring them down to hell...The leaders want to make America great again, like in the former days of Babylon the great...The US is reigning over the kings of the earth, but in reality it is Babylon the great that's reigning over the kings of the earth, through her offspring, under a new identity...The judgment of God in revelation, is coming upon the offspring of Babylon the great...Ancient Babylon the great changed her identity when she moved from the middle east, and she's become a mystery to the world.
@jadaforland493
@jadaforland493 4 года назад
You are speaking nothing but facts sir. Amazing.
@jamarcwv11
@jamarcwv11 4 года назад
Good stuff, God has blinded many many Christians through their love of nationalism by giving us leaders that do everything but glorify him.
@labronkatz5942
@labronkatz5942 Год назад
Help me, I keep craving to watch football... it seems like it's become an Ido for me... I stayed away from it for about two weeks and I completely forgot about it, but one Saturday I dreamt I was playing football and the next morning I have been craving to watch football since🤦🏽‍♂️....
@MrUnfamilia
@MrUnfamilia 9 месяцев назад
Hmmm watching football is harmless but i know it can become an Idol because it has been marketed and projected to be 'larger than life' but in reality its just football
@itsokaytobeclownpilled5937
@itsokaytobeclownpilled5937 5 лет назад
Terrible sermon. You said having stuff was bad. Having stuff isn't bad. Being proud of accomplishment isn't bad. Worshipping stuff instead of worshipping God is bad.
@jamarcwv11
@jamarcwv11 4 года назад
No he said being proud of what you have and flaunting it is bad, and wanting things obsessively is bad as well.
@yolisabeauchamp1088
@yolisabeauchamp1088 3 года назад
That's literally what he said lol. He said being overly excited about having stuff to the point where it's all you talk about is idolatry not the fact that you have stuff. Listen him again, especially about the part where he talks about actually getting stuff
@noneone8726
@noneone8726 3 года назад
@@yolisabeauchamp1088 If the message of Jesus is forgiveness and love, why do ALL christians spend ALL of their time eagerly judging and persecuting others? What is a god? What is the definition? Do you agree or disagree: 1. god created EVERYthing 2. god KNOWS everything 3. god is all powerful and can do anything 4. god is perfect by definition and therefore cannot make mistakes Do you agree to all that? Then why pray? God can read your mind and already knows what you feel and think. If a god can do ANYTHING, why is there any need for books, churches, prayers, singing, prophets, preachers, bible study, religious debate, saviors, miracles, televangelists, signs, angels or any other nonsense? A god could and would communicate UNAMBIGOUSLY and LOGICALLY, directly to each individual. How do you account for the reality that there are literally dozens of churches who say emphatically that ALL the other churches are LIARS? How do you account for the literally hundreds of self contradictions within the christian bible? How do you account for the fact that there are literally dozens of versions of this supposedly perfect bible? If the bible is so great, why is it so ridiculously ambiguous, irrational, hateful, and self contradicting? Why is it so easy to "prove" LITERALLY ANYTHING YOU WANT by selectively quoting the bible? Again, an all powerful god could and would communicate without intermediaries in an unambiguous logical fashion. Where is the objective, factual, tangible, rational and scientifically verifiable PROOF of the existence of your god? "it says so in this old book" Yeah, well it says that you can come back to life in the Egyptian Book of The Dead, a MUCH older book.....so do you believe that one also? What kind of a god would be petty enough to require you to grovel or beg? If you are "sinful" ---WHO CREATED YOU? Who CREATED SIN? What kind of sadist would create a world like that? Why would you obey, even worship, a sadist? If the message of Jesus is forgiveness and love, why do ALL christians spend ALL of their time eagerly judging and persecuting others? If heaven is so great, and you love god so much, why don't you just hurry up and kill yourself to go there? The entire history of christianity is one of perpetual WAR, torture, famine, plague, poverty and ignorance.....look it up some time. Crusades, 100 years war, dark ages, pogroms, Kosovo, Ireland, etc etc etc. It never ends. The bottom line is, superstition, aka religion, is an insult to all humanity. The sledgehammering reality is, christian con men prey on the poor, the frightened and the Low IQ trailer trash who are so desperate that they will latch onto anything that offers some shred of hope.....jesus, heroin, multi level marketing scams, infomercials, nascar, country music, beer, World Wresting Federation, cigarettes, incest, the KKK, guns, WalMart, moonshine, donald trump......BIBLE BELT, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, reagan, hitler POVERTY, IGNORANCE ( low IQ) and CHRISTIANITY are all one and the same thing. christianity preys on the weak and the stupid and the fearful. It is EVIL, pure and simple. Notice that the old (senile, afraid of dying) and the female (use emotions instead of logic to make decisions) are the prime targets of christian churches? Note the FACT that these churches are EAGER to condemn others, EAGER to stir up your emotions, EAGER to distract you.......just like trump, just like hitler. It's all about bigotry, fear, conforming. You can ignore your own flaws if you focus on the flaws of others.........religion is Evil. Do you not GET IT? This is how Hitler and Trump got power, by creating SCAPEGOATS. ALL RELIGION IS LIES, fantasy, irrationality.....the Very Worst that a human being could become: insane, guided only by emotion, not Objective Logic. Guided by delusions, by feelings. As low as an animal, subhuman. That is a religious person. If anything or anyone attempts to use your FEELINGS to control you, murder that person. If anyone, such as myself, attempts to use OBJECTIVE LOGIC to speak to you, listen.
@John-xf7ft
@John-xf7ft 2 года назад
way to completely misrepresent what brother john said man
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