"John's Gospel is Christian Fan Fiction!" DEBUNKED 

“BuT sPiDeRmAn GeTs StUfF rIgHt AbOuT nEw YoRk!” -Atheists who didn’t watch the video

Idc if you are Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, or whatever, but as a Catholic, I appreciate your style and solid argumentation. Keep it up, my brother in Christ!

After using the Roblox oof sound, it is now a moral obligation to use it in every video 🤔

I watched you for the first time on Easter Sunday. Since then your views and subs have skyrocketed. Amazing work bro

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The crazy thing is that it’s the gospel of John which appears to stand as the odd one out to our modernist eyes, but in actual history Marcion viewed the gospel of Luke as having a unique quality and rejected the other three gospels. And this led to a schismatic Marcionite group who only had Luke’s gospel as canon. So in a way the 19th century German theologians were right that one of the gospels was used over and against the others by schismatics. They were just wrong about what gospel it was because they were mistakenly assuming that second century Greco-Roman Christians would operate under the same modernist presuppositions that they operated under… but this is a bad way to understand history.

John is more accurate than others want to ever admit.

Dude I've been binging the playlist all weekend. I wish these were longer, but the short run time is actually perfect for helping others during discussions. You're doing a really great service.

I am a simple man. I see biblical wojaks, I click.

6 AD - In the 43 Year of Augustus Caesar, happened a terrible Famine in Rome, on which Augustus sent away not only Strangers, but most of his Servants out of the City. This would mean he became Caesar in 37 BC

Incredible series so far!

Was so happy when i saw the notification for the vid pop up lol. Cant wait to watch, and God bless you!

Cultural references we need to look up to understand. Proceeds to show a gameboy and a cassette... I guess I am old now. 😅

This channel is a true diamond in the rough.

Happy to see that your channel is growing, love these videos.

The book of John was the most widely circulated gospel at the time of church founding and growth if I remember correctly. I believe it has the most remnants of copies found in historical sites since it was used as a “pocket gospel” of sorts.

The historical context you provide is amazing as we gain more depth and perspective throughout the gospel, however I’d love some of the sources your using to read for myself, Blessings thank you

Your content is extremely important, please do not stop!

I’m glad I found this channel. Keep up the good work!

"Ad hocness" you've said has also a psychological explanation. It is basically a fearful, anti-alterity defense mechanism that protects the subject's belief foundations, on which is based his very subjectivity. Against anything that threatens the worldview, such is the psyche's "tenacity", whose degree of affection gives a clue about the subject's intelligence and confidence. In other words, people's unreasonableness against a topic is directly proportional to the possibility of their mistake on it, which very much says of a fear-driven, insecure personality.

Some historical books that have mythological beings we still call historical books but also say that the mythological beings obviously didn't exist. I think that's the same thing with the Gospel of John for some people if we're strictly talking about facts.

And... Saved that video to a playlist! God bless homie

Does anyone else think that woodcut of the woman at the well looks like it came out of Studio Ghibli? Something about the way her face is rendered… More seriously, what’s the evidence that John wrote in Ephesus? I don’t doubt there is some; it’s just the first I’ve heard of this.

Your videos seem pretty cool, dude, I’ve liked what I’ve watched. God bless you!

Can you do another video going into more detail about how John, Luke, Seutonius and Josephus fit together?

Speaking of John, my personal favorite chapter from John is John 11; the story of Jesus raising Lazarus from the grave. It is both a story of Jesus’s compassion for fellow man as well as an affirmation of the consistency of the Biblical narrative as Jesus risks his life to aid Mary and Martha.

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The weirdest thing about John is, it seems to have a chiastic structure. Meaning every passage has a parallel passage at the opposite end of the book. John 1 about the Word of God who made the world parallels the ending where it says that if all the things Jesus did were put in a book, the world could not contain them, because Christ created the world, so the explanation of everything he made could not fit. Sometimes these parallels can be a bit of a stretch, so I am not sure if this is true, however I once read it beginning and end and so forth and there were direct parallels in a lot of places.

@testify I like your case for 27 AD start of ministry. I’ve always been a 30 AD believer. Could you do a comparison of the evidence for 30 vs 33 AD for date of crucifixion?

Is there any way you coukd do a critique on the backyard lproffesors latest vudeos on jesus and josephus?

I will lead off saying John has always been my favorite book. The question I always had is how can John differ from when Jesus crucifixion took place. It’s so clear the last supper was Passover Eve. Passover begins sundown and the next day is a sabbath. Matthew, Mark and Luke so clearly say to prepare the Passover. How can John get the timing so wrong on what is the quite literally the most important event of our time. Is it translation bias or John shifted the date to make Jesus be the slaughtered Lamb? That’s all I could ever come up with.

Yeeees more knowledge in my brain

Thanks bro! Good stuff!!

I'm discussing this video on my next podcast... This is very well done. God bless!!! Christ is King

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IMO- John firmly cements Jesus as God- the Second person of the trinity. I believe that is why it is so attacked-

Great vid!!!

But if John's account of cleansing the temple correlates with Luke's why is John's account at the beginning of Jesus' ministry, rather than after Jesus' final entry into Jerusalem like in Luke?

I didn’t think the debate was whether or not John made up the details as much as the fact that he is far less concerned with historical precision as theological reflection - so of course he gets general cultural stuff right about Samaritans and circumcision, but the order of events and dialogue have been massaged to serve John’s rhetorical goals in a more obvious way than the Synoptics.

Where does the "boo" sound come from?

Important video!

So interesting

Can you imagine? "I know the Messiah is coming" "I'm here cuuuuuz"

Love the Roblox noises and the great lol placements. Amazing humor

So is Philo of Alexandria's writing also fan fiction? John and Philo both write in similar ways.

Good job, 12AD is indeed the correct date for Luke 3’s recounting of when his governorship(ηγεμονία) began, but just an FYI Brother, you messed up your math by forgetting the way Romans, Greeks, and Hebrews counted regnal years. 15th year of his ηγεμονία(governorship aka being declared Caesar, but not necessarily Augustus/Emperor yet) means that at least 14 full years had passed but not yet 15 years had passed. So it was 26AD, and if you check archaeology against Daniel 9 and Nehemiah 2, you’ll also know Jesus was foretold to start his ministry in 26AD in the latter part of Summer as well 😉😁👍🏼

While I agree with John Behr’s recent scholarship on the theological and apocalyptic views of John, I don’t see why that somehow doesn’t mean John is still historical

Telling the woman at the well is yet another way women are honored as some of the first allowed to share the good news about Jesus-like the women finding him alive first.

Can you please go more in depth about why the apochyphal gospels didn't make it into the Bible in a future video?

For a second I thought your shirt said "praise the watchtower"

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like your videos. you should look into Eastern Orthodoxy.

Hey dude the audio for this video was perfect, simple, clear. The memes were hilarious. I think the hook-nose Wojack image in contrast to the entire rest of the video, is a real mistake. I don't think I've ever seen it used in a positive context. IMO it completely yanks me out of the cool argument you're using and immediately makes me instead focus on why you would allow that image to be associated with your content. Would replace that slide with one that have a regular Wojacks (or at least not the specific one you employed), keep the same audio track, and re-upload.

4:54 and we see this in John two after the feeding of the 5000 .... hohoho you seem to mean John six

Could I politely ask why the comments or replies I've made on this video don't appear on any account except mine? (this is a different acccount) Is this a weird RU-vid thing?

The genius burglar theory works a lot like the theory of evolution.

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In Adventist doctrine, the autumn of 27 AD is also the end of the 69 weeks from Daniel 9 (starting with 457 BC) and the beginning of the 70th week, in which he (the Messiah, not the Antichrist) would form a new covenant with many. In the middle of the week, he, the Messiah, would bring an end to sacrifices by becoming our perfect sin offering on the cross 3.5 years after his baptism, in the spring of 31 AD during passover. (By the way, I have heard, that this is also the time, during which the Jews were not allowed to kill anyone [John 18:31]. Maybe you could investigate that claim for a future video, it was allegedly under consul Lucius Aelius Seianus; Also, the pericope adulterae, which some manuscripts insert after Luke 21:38, would make sense in this context, because if Jesus said "Do it", they would have accused him before the Romans, and if he said "Don't do it", they would have accused him of breaking the law of Moses.) The 70th week ends in 34 AD with the death of Stephen. After that, Paul was converted and the Gospel went to the Gentiles and the Jews had lost their privilege. They still had time to repent for 36 years, but they didn't, and the city was destroyed.

Can I ask this channel host one and one thing only why does his presumed "avatar" in the videos he makes reads "Praise The Watchmaker" I did a search and all I could find is a novel called Praise The Watchmakers which is about Jews during the Holocaust but I have a feeling that you are trying to equate God/Jesus as the Watchmaker but nevertheless it could lead to confusion to some people who might then turn away from this channel as a result. Just saying

Thank you

Bro the messianic secret got me traumatize

Dude I ordered a new kitchen sink im waiting for the tutorial

This one is actually pretty cool

Why is John's gospel the only gospel that omits Jesus excorcising demons?

I don't get this "dunk of the atheist" angle i see a lot of these channels doing these days, isn't our purpose to planet seeds and not mock non-believers, i didn't believe until someone told me "read the gospels of Jesus" and BOOM was on the train. I was distant from GOD because everyone who had a opportunity to teach me was so caught up in their ego. Let's get back to helping people over mocking them

Being a "black sheep" doesn't discredit ol John's input by any means.

Hey Testify Bart Erhman says 1 Corinthians 15:51 is a false prediction of Paul where he thought Jesus would return within his lifetime and take him and other believers to Heaven how do we answer this?

Could Jesus have kept his identity under wraps because the timing was off? After all, he wanted to spread the Gospel before the Enemies of the Light could gather against him. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯

I wonder if this video has anything to do with the Spider-Man fallacy proponents?

Where do you get the idea that these people where when they spoke and AfroAsiatic Languges and all Afro asiatic languges speakers are black to brown?

I’m always amazed by the mental gymnastics 🤸 stay flexy friend lol

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The burglar example is like the “millions of years” hand-wave to explain macro evolution. “Just add more time, it’ll make it make sense!!”

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not the point - John was terribly corrupted by Esau [read 'Pharisees'] ch. 1 is about "the creation of eden" [in the other reality] - which Gods covenant is about ! ; Christ never said 'drink my blood' cause prohibited in the OT , etc etc

Yeah. Everyone would end up rallying to Jesus, hail him as king and install him as one as they rebel against Rome. But Jesus doesnt want that since he is just there to preach worship and peace famalan.

Here is the problem with what you've argued in this video: you are assuming that because there are historical elements present within the Gospel of John that therefore it is a completely reliable source. In my opinion, I believe this is a logical fallacy because if I was to use the same reasoning I would have to conclude that Stephen King's novel 11/22/63 must be true because it contains meticulous historical details set at a particular point in history, or for that matter any work of fiction which contains any historical details or is set in a particular time period must be reliable in what it says.

...Truth is John's 3 year ministry probably more accurate than the Synoptics 1 year framework...

I think it's important to note, that is Jesus Christ was a fiction, it was a fiction perpetrated by people who weren't directly connected to each other over about 300 years who had, somehow, managed to get all the historical details correct and (largely) didn't contradict each other for absolutely no net-benefit to themselves. The statistical likelihood that Jesus did not exist grows ever closer to zero.

I believe John was always somehow closer to God; probably by fasting... I have this theory that he became like this because of his experience in the Isle of Patmos... But that's just a theory...

Ad Hocness. One of the favorite weapons of the evolutionists.

Theists will take a clear cut, illogical argument, and stretch the wording so long that the fallacy is obscured. It’s the linguistic equivalent of the proof for 1=2, where the 0/0 error is hidden among otherwise correct math.

John only confirmed what God already told us !

Jesus sounds like he would've been a very frustrating person to talk to. Getting answers out of him was evidently like pulling teeth; everything he said seems to have been annoyingly intended as some kind of cryptic message or hint: for example, when he says "destroy this temple, and I will build it again in three days", and he was really talking about his body, not the Second Temple (which is what everyone else was explicitly referring to, and which was the background topic for the conversation itself in the first place). Must've driven people up the wall. In the case of his body, "rebuild" is a deliberately misleading, metaphorical word. Must've been agonizing

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So you are saying the other gospels are wrong?

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Doesn't change the fact that the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus is fake or that the woman taken in adultery narrative was a later add on. Let's not forget those trinitarian verses that were added in either. Like it or not, John is a fanfiction and has little to do with the historical Jesus.

Lets say I tell you this: "An allien ship arrived in New York and landed on the last floor of the Empire State building, which is the 102th floor". Later you do some fact checking and notice than the Empire State building has 102 floors, just as I said. Does the fact that I got this detail right prove that my entire story is true? Same thing here.

My view is that it's an eye witness account,with theologians adding to it.

And what would you like to be said? That John is either completely false or completely true? That would be nonsense. The majority agree that Jesus existed, that he died on the cross and that he preached a doctrine close to that recounted in the Gospels, but that he was not God, that he did not rise from the dead and that he did not perform miracles. It's not ad hoc, it's a basic skeptical position - the same as yours towards other religions. In the same way, the apocryphal Gospel of Thomas contains several passages similar to the canonical Gospels amidst other new ones, and you'd have no problem saying that the former are right and the latter are wrong. For much the same reason, John is, on the whole, fan fiction.

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