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Star Wars would simply NOT be the same without John Williams. John's music has been the catchiest, most epic music of so many generations now....lets keep it going.
Star wars is the ultimate art. John williams and George Lucas are unison on it and that's what makes it so good. They both are so important to Star wars. The only thing that the sequels had that was good was the music. Great music in all 9 films.
They should do a film about his life and call the film "Towner" (John Williams' second name). It'd look like "Amadeus", Williams would be Mozart and Zimmer (example) would be Salieri. That'd be great, eh?
The word "classical" is also defined as "something that survives trends because of the high class." Ideal example to fit the concept is when one person, the composer, created the music by writing it down, and done so with artistic ambition.
I'm not an expert on Beethoven, but I think his work starting in the 1800s is widely regarded as being Romantic works. I think Symp.3 is a popular example. Those are weasel words, but it's the impression I've gotten, and it's one with which I tend to agree; in my opinion, if he pioneered the change, he is a Romantic. I've never run into occasions where people have cringed at "classical music," I have also never encountered accusations of narrow-mindedness when referring to the eras.
@jwd0808 Great quote it is. We build our work on the shoulders of masters. John Williams on Stravinsky's and Prokofiev and others, indeed... Beethoven on CPE Bach's and on Haydn's definitely... It is not for nothing that western music evolved slowly but surely for 1000 years already!
Classical music was made for the concert hall. Modern classical and neo-classical music is music which uses the forms of the classical era (roughly 1750-1850), drawing on the techniques and rules of composers from that era. John Williams writes contemporary, modern, and neo-romantic music. Concert music does not mean "classical music." You have the periods (baroque, classical, romantic, modern, impressionist, etc.), and then the context (film, stage, ballet, opera, etc.).
Minor argument here. Beethoven may have led the Classical Era in music to a close, but he stilled adhered to its forms, thereby he is still Classical. Apart from that, the idea of "classical" is that it can either refer to the era, OR to the conception that is imposed by the people upon any music that isn't electronically produced (at least mostly, exceptions being such people as Cage or Boulez). You have to remember, it is hard to say "classical" without a cringe, and with it John Williams.
Beethoven was also living in the Classical era, so you are right when you point out the inaccuracy of my calling him specifically a Romantic. However, I disagree with your assessment that classical music, as a term, should be used to broadly encompass any form of concert music. I would try to remember your last sentence if I were able to understand it.
Sorry if i'm being rude, but thats a dumb argument. If i want to compose like Wagner there's probably a list of similar size of composers he (Wagner) liked. What i would suggest is to study music a lot, learn how your favourite composers work (that's whats gonna make you sound similar to them).. and of course, don't expect to master anything in less than a decade. :)
yea...i did a research paper on him....for my musicology class and compared him to those for mentioned composers...and i got a 98 on it...and my teacher is one of the top 3 women in the field of musicology...so try again...
My last sentence was unfortuately cut to minimalist standards due to character count. What I was trying to make reference to was how in modern society, even the mention of the word "classical" in most circles will make the masses cringe in disgust. That is all. As well, just viewing things periodically is a tad narrow, and culturally demonstrates that either you are ignorant, or uncaring. Also, in what instance is Beethoven a Romantic? That is all I ask.
@TheOrganicBeats do you even know what a comparison is? cuz i'm sure i didnt compare any of'em, point is from a creative perspective, all of them are equally genius and innovative in their own areas.
Though that is, indeed, a working definition of the word "classic" (and therefore "classical"), the original usage was a reference to antiqueness works, such as ideologies of the Greeks. The classical period, roughly 1750-1850, is described as having been immersed in classic ideologies. I think both listed definition (yours and mine) of "classic" contribute to each other. However, classical music as a term to describe concert music should be discouraged.
Beethoven and Strauss are Romantic, Tchaikovsky is late-Romantic, and Bach is Baroque. None of them are classical composers. My argument has never been to discredit Williams's skill (or stature) as a composer; merely to make a distinction. By all definitions, John Williams is a contemporary composer, not a classical composer. He would have to have been alive in the 18th century for that. As for implying that he is of a dying breed; Williams is the most popularized... there are others.
get over it. john williams is a composer. before classical music was called "classiscal music" it was just music. never forget that all music is is the culmatnation of the very first human banging a stick on a tree or rock.
you want to be as good as him? Dude all you have to do is listen to Stravinzky...Wagner...Dvorak...Shostakovich...and write like them...thats all John Williams does...
You got a 98 because you expressed an opinion, not because you are right. Please don't convince yourself being a college student makes you intelligent.
