Johnny vs. DmC: Devil May Cry 

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So again.... Johnny questioning zoomer lingo only to then utter the phrase "fetus deletus" not even two minutes later is a high point of the entire channel. AND THANK GOD THAT BIT DIDN'T GET TAKEN OUT LOL

Fun fact: The voice actor who played Vergil in this game, David De Lautour, played R.J. in Power Rangers Jungle Fury. So that's yet another power rangers actor who voice acted in the devil may cry series.

The video escaped limbo

11:36 I need more insults from the zoomer city. Hearing Johnny say "That wasn't very poggers Dante" will never stop being funny

The game ain't half bad. I remember when Donte said "Welcome to DMC! It stands for Devil May Cry and you're watching Disney Channel"

That “YEAH!” & “Fetus deletus!” 12:45 sealed the deal right there!!! 🤣

The struck realization of being a Sonic-fan made me laugh even harder the second time.

My absolute favorite thing about the story is toward the end of the game where the Villain of the story asks our Hero………”Why did you kill my child?” calmly

“Hey, I’ve seen this one before!” “What do you mean you’ve seen it? It’s brand new.” “FUCK YO-“

Every somecallmejohnny DmC review is personalized.

Ironically Ninja Theory’s original pitch for the reboot was actually closer to the original series, but Capcom said it wasn’t western enough and pushed them to make the reboot we actually ended getting. Though I am glad that DmC is more accepted nowadays, to a degree that DMC5 actually contains references to DmC, such as Dante’s alt colors being reboot Dante’s colors.

A couple corrections to make about the beginning. 1. The original vision for DmC was actually a lot closer to mainline Devil May Cry, it was actually Capcom that pushed the reboot to be more and more its own thing, for better or for worse. 2. The Reboot wasn't actually because of poor sales for DMC 4, contrary to popular belief. As a matter of fact, DMC 4 was the highest selling game in the series until DMC 5. However, Capcom went through a phase of wanting to appeal more to a western audience, and they thought the best way to do that was by "Westernizing" their games. Ultimately, DMC felt too "Japanese" to them, so they threw everything away and tried starting over.

I do love how one of the biggest inspirations for Donte is Tyler Durden as to what a "cool" character should be. Great, so not only do they not get Dante, they don't get Fight Club either

I don't know if it's luck or anything else but it's rather impressive that Ninja Theory manage to survive this whole PR mess when almost every studio Capcom worked with during their western push (Blue Castle, Slant Six, GRIN...) didn't. Enslaved is a pretty good game by the way. It really feel like the kind of game Johny would play during a donator marathon. Have yet to play Hellblade tough.

Honestly, everything about mainline Dante is WHY he’s so cool to begin with. The kind of man that is a doofus (and or have a gay cowboy moment /joke) without shame is going to be the coolest person in the room lol

I've said it before and I will say it a hundred times. Every problem the fandom has with this game would've been erased if they just named the protagonist Daniel.

Dante doesnt get age restricted. Donte gets age restricted. a point against DmC

11:43 Thank God this joke wasn't edited out. Still the hardest I've laughed in a while 😂

Is it bad that, even as someone who hasn't put much time into this series, I can absolutely hear "That wasn't very poggers of you, Dante" in Vergil's voice?

The Spanish/Mexican El Donte dub and fan mod is amazing and saves this game's delivery.

I think the reason why people prefer Dante and Vergil from the main series than here is because they fall under the type of puzzle piece scenario. What I mean by that is viewers are able to put together a scenario of their character progression from moments in the stories and see how goes along. Like yes we don't see this kind of brother interaction between Dante and Vergil like we do in this game, but people have been at least get a closer look through the dialogue they exchange in the last act of 3, Dante trying to get Yamato back in 4 and all the moments between the brothers in 5. They do care for each other, even if they don't say or show us the actual signs. Sometimes a viewer can tell what a character's dynamic can be by listening to all of the dialogue really closely.

I remember playing DMC4 as my entrance to the series, taking one look at DmC and going “what even is this, rebooting it already?” And checked out for a long while.

Man that sucks the original video got age-restricted

Dang it! I would normally say “Ever get that feeling of déjà vu?”, but the start puts a damper on that.

Yeah, I felt about the same playing the series in order. I think it ranks 3rd for me with DM5 and 3 above it. My issues mostly are just on tone and story, more for it not being outright bad, but just trying too hard. Ironically I think my biggest example is not the usual suspects, but the scene of them at that park where all the graffiti is on the wall describing everything vergil is talking about for like 5 minutes straight, only for dante for sum the whole thing up in one sentence. There are nuggets here and there to make something work, more than I can say for the stories of 1 2 and 4, but it didn't quite come together. Now for the positives. Above all else, the level design and theming. Still the strongest in the entire series for me. I remember almost all the limbo environments and I actually want to look around for enjoy the environments this time thanks to this dante feeling like he can actually move through them properly and not "well he kind of can". And with the combat when you are fighting normal enemies I do think it has a fun albeit toned down usual dmc combat but still fun action game in its own right.I know that is still a major sticking point for some, that there isnt nearly as much combo depth…but…I can play the main campaign of DMC pretty fine and have done so a few times when I’m in the mood. Meanwhile I feel I always just give up on a 4 playthrough every time I try to do so. If I have more fun with one of them, that one wins for me. Its kind of that simple. And I appericiate definitive edition going out of its way to really fix a lot of the issues people had with the game and even make them a toggle so people could play how they like. It feels like a lot more effort went into this instead of the usual, put in vergil and call it a day approach with the others. I think in a post 5 world, its easier to see this as its own thing and judge it on its own merits. And I think its still worth it, I find myself going back to it more than 1 2 or 4. Now that being said, your gonna have with 5. Your gonna have A LOT of fun with 5.

A neat thing about Definitive Edition is it also has a Hardcore setting that can be turned on that does some style and devil trigger balancing to the game that matches more to the original continuity games. A nice way for fans that still want to push for high style based on variety and to have DT be a bit less free while also letting the game still have it's initial options should players prefer that.

19:54 LMFAOOOO this part had me in tears

Oh hey, a Johnny reupload, and rewatching Johnny is fun. Once again, there is usually at least one game in a franchise that divides its fanbase, and this is no different.

I loved Donte's adventure. Combichrist was fantastic, but it was my first Devil May Cry game so I didn't quite 'get' the backlash at the time. Fully understand it now, though.

This game is one of the rare instances of “Good Game. Wrong IP”

I honestly feel like Tameem’s view of what was cool then doesn’t apply today is true but his way of just added such tasteless and tacky thing to the reboot like adding the casual sex, drugs and other “cool” and edgy things. Many people that reboot or give their interpretation of classics always miss the mark on why the originals are charming. I remember the same thing happened with the gritty fan made power rangers short; people just add what they think is cool and mature and the end product just comes out looking too try-hard.

Looking closely at DMC Dante's drawing in the thumbnail (good artstyle btw) I realize that the lines around him, apart from having a white color also have a little blue on the left and a little red on the right. I think that's a reference to the fact that 'Donte' is a half angel, half demon hybrid and he uses light and dark weapons. Props to the artist.

From the moment Johnny started this marathon, _this_ was the review I was waiting for, especially after hearing that he had little, if any, prior experience with the franchise prior to starting this marathon and, thus, didn't have decades of calcified fanboy nostalgia making it harder to see clearly. I was curious to see where he'd eventually come down it, since I figured he wouldn't just blindly follow the consensus At the time I played it, it was the _only_ DMC game I'd even played, as most of them weren't on PC (the only platform I own), and being a reboot, it seemed like as good a place to try to jump on as any... and I thoroughly enjoyed my time with it. It didn't become an all-time favorite. I only played through it the one time, and haven't gone back to it since, unlike say Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, which I have revisited at least one or two times since my initial run. But at the same time, there was no point in that one run where I felt like I was forcing myself to keep playing or thinking about all of the better ways I could be spending my time. I enjoyed my time with the game from start to finish! Perhaps it's because I tend to spend more time with strategy and tactics games (XCOM & XCOM 2 are the most-played games in my Steam library for a reason), but I even appreciated the whole angel/devil mechanic. Sure it tripped me up, but it _also_ forced me to actually stop and _think_ about what I was doing... to _plan_ my attacks, rather than just mindlessly button-mashing my way to victory. It's the same reason I appreciate the combat in the Arkham games. Sure you _can_ simply button-mash your way through those games, but if you want to keep your combo going and truly feel like Batman, you need to be scanning the battlefield, picking out the most urgent target of the moment, and figuring out how you're going to deal with it. You need to be thinking at least two or three steps ahead or some punk will get a lucky shot in, breaking your chain. Once it clicks, it gets to be a bit like Holmes's fights in the RDJ movies. Was DMC a perfect game? Hell no! Obviously not... but I always felt the game got _WAAAAY_ more crap than it deserved simply because it wasn't the game fans wanted. As someone who didn't have any of that baggage, it was a perfectly enjoyable game. It wasn't even merely serviceable. It's a genuinely _good_ game... one of the _better_ examples in a genre that's incredibly easy to screw up. But it isn't the best, and it fell short of the masterpiece fans had built the franchise up to be, and so it was immediately relegated to the dustbin of history... rather unfairly, in my opinion. I'm glad to see that Johnny enjoyed his time with it, as well!

With all the crap youtube puts content creator through, I'll gladly rewatch this video.

I think dante in the original series had more development albeit more games. In 3 he wasnt really happy with what he was and was very guarded just masking it with jokes until he saw what lady has been going through and losing vergil at the end. Hes accepted yeah hes human and not just some monster. In dmc 1 after going through all his battles and confusion with triss he accepts his demon half. Dmc 2 we dont talk about, but dmc4 hes in a nice mentor role for nero but still messing with him as afterall hes dante hes rarely serious. Now dmc 5 that ups the characters tremendously for all the main cast and id say is the best game in the series. El donte hes too try hard for my liking and with what theyre trying to message its a bit hypocritical to be doing the samething in real life that your in game demons do. But the combat was fun not as good as 5 or 3 but still entertaining enough.

So in this game sparda is a guy who was taken and sent to hell captured and tortured forever. BUT bosses are still like "son of Sparta?" Where sparta is just some guy. You can tell where itsuno cane in for the scripting process jump in

You handled the age restriction of your previous DMC video very well, Johnny. By the way, the combat in this game reminds me of a game called Valkyrie Drive Bhikkhuni.

I always joke about DmC being a movie licensed game, but the movie was cancelled and they decided to use the script for the movie for the game instead.

12:30 i love how he already knew what was about to happen, and the "Fetus deletus" was the cherry on top

It's easy to forget how Capcom's output felt borderline hostile to their fans in those days.

Great video, but my favorite part was getting to see behind the scenes. Your notes were so detailed ,absolutely amazing!

I'll say it again, please never feel nervous about giving your opinion on a game. You're ironically one of the least obnoxious game critics on this site.

Damn Johnny loved this game so much he played it twice

I feel like this game promoted itself in all the worst ways possible that it gave fans such a negative impression, that even when it didi come out and be an pretty fun, the stigma stuck with it and still never went away

Ah yes, Diablo Poder Llorar: Featuring Donté, el exterminador de demonios and Vergin, the breeze that is approaching.

I absolutely adore this game. ESPECIALLY the music. I love the fuck out of the battle music.

I desperately want a mod where limbo says "No bitches?"

Okay, let's do this one more time... Ah yes, the "I'm one of the cool kids" period of Capcom.

The way you utterly roasted Vergil had me dying laughing. I was losing it. 🤣

I honestly fully respect your opinion on this game, always appreciate you standing by your takes always; great review, can't wait for the DMC 5 review

I can't say I'm fond of the redesigns and writing, but the art direction in the levels is pretty damn good. I'd even argue that the level aesthetics are better than the main series. But messing up Vergil (in lore and gameplay) is absolutely unforgivable.

My headcanon likes to think Dante's mother is an angel in both games.

Having watched this before the reupload is like a second treat somehow

I'll always say it had this been a new IP it would've had a better reception. Hell I'd still like to see the original vision of the more somber and haunting vibe they were going for in the teaser. The haphazard shifting of gears after the initial reception did not work for this games narrative.

Respect to Johnny for actually doing research into why a good chunk of the fandom write this game off and not just brushing off the reasons why. If they didn't try to slap the DMC name on it or if they marketed it as a sub-series like Mega Man's various spin offs, the fans wouldn't have ripped it to shreds.

Can't stop laughing at the "that wasn't very poggers Dante" lmao

I love this game it’s glad to see someone who while still critical was completely fair to this game. And it’s just nice to see another fan of it alongside the original series. I love that Dante feels very balanced in several ways, a mix of Dante and Nero, light/ heavy weapons, and horizontal mobility. These things make him my favorite playable character. And I think Ninja Theory’s story and visual design are overlooked. This game did well improving some problems with the older games like tedious back and forth, rushed campaigns, and bad camera/ platforming. It’s a good combat game as always, but it’s a good game outside of that as well. And I really like that. Enjoy playing through 5

The Dante / Virgil boss fights was one of my top fav fights in the DMC series for sure here

I'm still watching every johnny vs no matter what!!!

HARD disagree on the Mundus from the reboot being better villain than the original from the first Devil May Cry. While yes, there isn't much to original Mundus' character beyond being a malevolent god, I'd argue he isn't the sort of villain to whom that would have even been the point. As an antagonist he isn't so much a character as he is a force of nature with an intent, an overlooming threat, whose forboding presence permeates through the entire adventure (think to the effect of Sauron from Lord of the Rings), and as such Mundus from Devil May Cry 1 is remarkably effective; it's made clear by the in-game clues scattered throughout Mallet Island, that Mundus' underlying presence constantly hanging upon the game-world, making it all warped and ominous, is the very reason why the first game has more palpable gothic horror feel to it than any other game in the series and that further reflects in how the closer you get to Mundus, the more hazardous and creepy the game-world becomes. And so I'd almost argue them making him more of a character in the reboot is part of the reason why he no longer works in that game. Though the larger issue is the fact they gave him the character of an overly crass saturday morning cartoon villain, who talks big game about getting Dante soon at the start of the game, while throughout it all he manages to do is throw couple of impotent temper tantrums over his plans being foiled, until you face him as a sorry excuse of a climatic endgame bossfight, which makes the idea of him as this world-conquering villain we're supposed to take seriously nothing short of laughable.

Vergil's scream sounds at 23:22 like Steve Carell from Bruce Almighty.

This was my first dmc game, and I had a great time. I see why old fans were mad, but the game is genuinely well made.

Rewatching to you RU-vid premium watch time. Like I said in my original post in the original video. I absolutely love your take on this version. It honestly is my favorite from a story perspective since it fully fleshes out the characters. Great video like always Johnny!

This game was so polarizing, it made Johnny reupload his review for it .

I think one of the biggest things that people especially original fans of the DMC franchise is that the Angelic and demonic thing where you have to hold triggers which yea makes you have pretzel hands which for people who do intense DMC Combos than the muscle memory gets fucked by Pretezlmorphisis.

Aesthetically, I liked that this game went for a more punk rock-ish look. I thought it worked well as an alternate "origin" to OG Dante, who is _very_ "90's thrash metal" (the kind of guy who would walk down a sidewalk with shades and a giant boom box on his shoulder). I actually kinda wish DmC pushed that "70's London" look further. It's a nice blend of colorful and gritty, and it meshes well, I think, to the game's anti-establishment story. I'm not saying I want Dante to run around with a giant green Mohawk, but I _am_ saying that I really like the potential art direction.

haters can't stop DmC enjoyment

The slug thing being the ingredient for Soda is literally ripped from Futurama and their whole thing with Slurm. Also I was a QA tester for this game and had to play it SO many times and still didn't end up hating it. It's pretty decent :)

I was one of the people who watched the original video pre age restrictions of DmC DMC and I hope this video doesn’t get the age restriction it’s unlikely. Great video already watched it. Anyways as I was saying I hope after the mortal Kombat video is the return to final fantasy VIII IX and X

0:32 You managed to get by with your SGB review back in 2010, so I have full confidence

Here for the algorithm Not that Johnny makes it difficult to rewatch. The laughs are always just as strong

RU-vid couldn’t take the tomfoolery Johnny was talking about with DMC

18:00 Honestly, the joke got a chuckle out of me mainly because of how that segment ended

Watched the OG upload during what I thought was my last shift at work. Watching the RE-upload during my ACTUAL last shift😭

Missed opportunity to call this vid the special edition

I actually really like the DMC3 costume for this dante, it feels like it fits well with this face and art style.

I'm sad I never got to see the original upload, but I'm glad it's back in some capacity regardless!

I don't know if you know this, but Hardcore mode (Definitive Edition exclusive) fixes the Devil Trigger issue. I believe it also changes the rank system to be more in line with the previous games, where you have to vary your attacks.

I was not mentally prepared to hear the word “rizz” escape Johnny’s lips.

I've said for a long time that this game is a solid and fun game to play. But it's biggest flaw is the Devil May Cry label. If they just renamed the characters and called the game something like "Nephilim: fall of limbo" it would've been better received

Hey Johnny great video I'm sorry for the trouble having to reupload. Question who drew your thumbnail art for this episode?

So... it was the pizza covering the taint shot that YT took issue with?

DmC was a decent, even cool game that was made at the wrong time, and possibly by some of the wrong people Lots of cool stuff about it, but the attitudes and trends of the time really just killed it in the cradle. Its the epitome of a series going through an wakward teen phase But thats okay, because its influence on 5 is apparent and I'm glad Capcom didn't course correct too hard by disregarding it completely, even when they decided that they would follow up on DMC4 for the series big comeback

I didn't play the game until after beating DMC5, loving it, and getting into DMC3 and DMC4 and loving those too. As such, my opinion on it is one coming from a latecomer who already knew that DMC5 would go on to exist after this game. Under that context, I also found the game enjoyable. The story is goofy but generally nothing too bad and the gameplay is honestly pretty damn fun. However, I can also understand how people must have felt under the context of this game being brand new. Imagine playing DMC4 as a fan of DMC3 and at least liking it if not loving it, only for Capcom to ditch that storyline and make this instead of a sequel. I prefer the storyline of the original series any day, so I can very much empathize with the fear that this was going to be the series from now on and we wouldn't get any more games in the original continuity. Under that perspective, I can see where people were coming from being so harsh on the game, and the relative love the game is starting to get in a post-DMC5 world also makes a lot of sense. Generally speaking, the game is a pretty harmless standalone adventure telling a completely original story unrelated to the main series. For those thinking of trying it, just think of it as an edgy spinoff taking place in an alternate universe. The gameplay is the real star of the show in this one, the combo system feels fantastic to get good with and the sense of flow is phenomenal. Dante acts and plays like the main series Dante and Nero did a DBZ Fusion Dance, and it works way better than it has any right to.

24:59 Background kitty spotted

Well, at least this is the earliest I've been to a Johnny video in a hot minute. I'd only ever heard of the Devil May Cry series but they look like a fun time through these reviews and comment sections.

What exactly was changed from the original version of the review?

How’s this get age restricted while people can post sex,nudity, gore, tons of cursing and go viral lmao

Saying the brotherly connection in the reboot is better is the one thing I can't let slide.

Here again for the rewatch! Hope it doesn't get slapped again xP For a fun bit of trivia, Vergil in this game is voiced/mocapped by David de Lautour, who's another Power Ranger alumni! Specifically, he's RJ, the mentor from Jungle Fury who's also the Violet Wolf Ranger. Incidentially, one of my fave seasons of PR and a pretty handsome guy to boot! So even if the game is decisive amongst people over whether or not it can count as a DMC game, it's still got that Power Ranger rep in there lol

RU-vid: That wasn't very poggers Johnny

Let's not forget this is the only game where you could play as Virgil in an original campaign. I genuinely liked it and reckon his descent into devil madness and renouncing his angel side makes sense. Virgil's gameplay was also really fun as well I thought

The game that introduced gamers to the “Boomers Are Ruining Society!” Trope Persona 5 did this trope better

The first time I ever heard of Heavenly Sword was Playstation All Stars Battle Royale. Fun Fact: I just looked this up at 1:25 PM CST there is a 2 Episode cartoon based on this game along with a movie released back in 2014.

Worth it to watch again for that opening alone!

I can't say that I'm surprised that you liked the game and that's fair lol. Me personally, I didn't much care for the game 10 years ago and my feelings are still more or less the same nowadays but it comes with a caveat, the caveat being that had this game just been an entirely new series that was a spiritual successor to the Devil May Cry series like how Yooka Layla was a spiritual successor to Banjo & Kazooie, I would've been more favorable to it. It did have some interesting ideas that could've been built upon. I actually liked "Donte's" design and I agree that his brotherly interaction with Vergil minus the occasional cringe like "My dick is bigger" (who actually says that to their brother...? CRINGE.). The world while not all that interesting to me personally, it would've been intriguing to see how they would build upon it and I can admit that the platforming elements with them were quite fun. In short, the concept had potential. I'm not gonna deny that the gameplay was solid (even if it was simplistic compared to the classic games) and it had a banging soundtrack (mostly the Industrial Rock, not so much the dubstep lol). Only other thing I didn't like besides the on the nose edgy writing was how it handled the female characters this time around what with Kat being a damsel and Lilith being a plot deviced object. But at least with Kat, there would've been sequel potential where she could learn how to do more offensive magic & spells to better defend herself. Anyway the point is, the female characters were poorly handled imo, a far cry from what we got with capable Lady & Trish. But yeah I digress, had they just made this a new IP, made "Donte" and "Fergil" be new characters like I dunno, calling them Keith ("Dante") and Aiden ("Vergil"),I would've so been rooting for the game to get a sequel. But as is... It just didn't really do it for me as a whole package. I don't begrudge those who like the game because the gameplay is fun no doubt. But as a "Devil May Cry" game? I just don't see it nor would care to view it that way and I'm glad hat tthey returned to the original aesthetic and style that originally defined the series. 🌟But like others have said, if they were to revive this series, scrap it's relation to Devil May Cry and make it it's own series, potential trilogy? I would no question support it. 🙂

I STARTED the original video and then the age restriction hit before the Hello Fresh ad was even done and kicked me out 😂

I heavily love the rebooted video fake out in the begging as it goes well with this title being a reboot in itself.

AYYYYY! We also thought of the "Get Back" music video when we first saw those fists~! 2000s Luda was on another level!