Johnny vs. Kingdom Hearts II 

I N B E D Aアート泥棒 agreed

I N B E D Aアート泥棒 I N B E D Aアート泥棒 Fuck you, the echidna saga was the best. Unlike Riku he don't chuckle!

It was nice to come back to this, but for whatever reason they decided to have Sora become a hedgehog for the next game. Donald and Goofy also turned into a fox and echidna exclusively for that game, which I'll never understand.

Disney worlds are one hell of a drug

Learn to apostrophe properly, shitlord.

FandeJay so the creater of dragon ball then

I find people who make that kind of criticism generally don't understand how the creative writing process works. Making it up as you go along is incredibly common and even recommended by many writers, including Stephen King and George R.R. Martin. Breaking Bad was written using this method as well.

Mike's L4IR dude. Seriously?

While that's true, I think he goes to good lengths to make most of the retcons make sense.

Didn't you hear what he said in that sams sentence... "...with no clear angle". That's important.

Ocean Man Sgb memories

But I’d probably get sick of hearing it several times lol

Ocean Man SGB must've read your thoughts back in 2015.

Ocean Man Except Soras connection with Kairi gave Namine memory powers because shut up.

Cue the cheesy sneak music

Flame of Udun Caddy will catch up because Johnny will be distracted by Sonic Mania

axellovesanime I meant that he beat him to reviewing this game specifically

And both of them will beat Antdude and he started a year ago

he did comment he was going to do this because he could smell caddy's shit from a mile away

Hey, is it me or does the story- rae ruoy fo tuo ezoo niarb ruoy ekam? .. *Drops dead*

And abrams couldn't even do that in Rise of Skywalker lol

J Jabrams

@Ewan Callister Nah. George ain't perfect, his execution didn't always land - but he at least set out with a story to tell and an end in mind.

@Ewan Callister I appreciate the comparison, I'm simply disagreeing. While watching the prequels, whatever their other flaws, I never once had the sense he was winging it.

@@ArtaShrike yeah but he made some of the worst films Ive ever seen in the process

More than that; He's sharing his childhood fantasies in a way other people can experience them, too. And given the creativity and wonder of many childhoods, that's a pretty awesome thing to do.

Wait until he gets his hands on a chance to make a Star Wars world.

I'll pre-order KH3 if they put in the Death Star and a rehash of Episode 4-6's story. I'd love a lightsaber keyblade and a fight with Vader. It would also give me an excuse to hear Mark Hammel and Harrison Ford reprise their roles as Luke and Han again.

Tetsuya Nomura is the Michael Bay of the videogame industry, just look what he did to Final Fantasy...

AntarianSPACE If Harrison Ford WANT to play Han Solo again

What is wrong with Ansem - Xehanort. It's the classic apprentice who stole the name of their master.

@@soul6733 yea I dont see the problem either.

Because it's a pointless twist.

@@fightingmedialounge519 Not really, since it builds on the how and why things fell apart in the first game, and why DiZ is in the position he's in. It's fairly organic, all things considered. Where it gets pointless is when they kept building onto it by having the apprentice really be this other dude whose body was taken over by an old man and trying to tie it all together into this larger plot revolving around other Keyblade Wielders who all coincidentally had an effect on the previous major characters' lives in the past, as if everything is all connected when it just made the universe feel smaller.

@@Sawngawkuh no. The first game already had natural progression of events, but because said events were in the reports most people didn't get it leading to the second game throwing all of that away for the sake of a twist. Seriously, what part of xeahnort lying about who he was to people didn't even know or care about ansem sounds organic to you? Kingdom hearts had bad habit of explaining plot points that were already addressed.

Red Hood I saw his comment on Caddy's video and laughed

SomeCallMeJohnny doesn't fuck around

Nah, it has been in the works since CoM and Crash Bandicoot reviews. He just held it back, to review Crash N'sane trilogy.

Same

Kingdom Hearts 2 was a perfectly fine story but Dream Drop Distance really got confusing

Same, I was pretty much following along perfectly until then. I even read all the Ansem Reports up to that point, for gods sakes.

@@mrsombrero9956 KH2 still has BIG problems with it's storytelling.

Did you forget Timeless River exists in Kingdom Hearts 2?

I would say the overall plot for Kingdom Hearts is good. But Nomura seemly has no really idea how to tie it all together.

Some games are better than others when it comes to their individual plots and characters. But, yeah, the overall execution is pretty sloppy.

Even though I still don't think he's a particularly good writer (his story direction in that wretched Advent Children/AC Complete movie speaks for itself), to be fair on Nomura, a part of the series' sloppy writing can be attributed to the nonsense going on behind-the-scenes as well. People assume Nomura just screwed around with Versus XIII, but in actuality, it was SE constantly shelving that project so they could have more staff members working on other projects, while having KH3 pushed back till the Tokyo team was available, all the while desiring more side-titles pumped out annually to maintain sales and interest in the KH franchise. Then Versus XIII kept being put off, and then restarted nearly from the ground up as FFXV, prompting them to finally just say "Screw it" and have the BBS/DDD crew do KH3. Such insanity hindering those productions and producing more non-mainline KH games into mix clearly would demand a lot of re-writing and planning going forward. Even if Nomura was a far better writer, we probably still would have wound up with one hell of a messy franchise-spanning plot due to all those problems. It's highly probable Nomura had a very different idea of how KH3 would go prior to all those unexpected setbacks. For all we know, the Sunset Horizons secret video may have been something hinting towards a hypothetical KHIII before Versus XIII was greenlit and BBS was later finally cemented around the time KH2FM+ came about with its new secret video showcasing those mysterious knights in action.

I fear the answers you'll get will disappoint you.

I definitely agree how the entire story of Kingdom Hearts is written alright. But when you tie all the game's plots, how they are executed, and even some of the character's intentions, it's certainly a clusterf*ck and not entirely the good kind.

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Same!

Same here. When I got to the video it only had 3 views. Refreshed it and it had 5.7k views like damn that was fast

358/2 Days makes a joke like that. "Roxas, you and I are Nobodies." "Well that's not very nice..."

And making shit up as you go with plot contrivances and retcons.

Can we also call this Once Upon a Time and/or Riverdale syndrome?

The only funny thing I remember is Donald duck being mad at Sora in the Tarzan world and he wouldn't heal you.

@@spiritandtimeakalilroachie7014 I don't remember that. Plus, you can alter Donald's AI to heal you more often. in the game's menus.

@@ScsigsGaming maybe I could be dreaming 😂 but I swear Donald gets mad at Sora in a cutscene and it carries out during the playthrough.

@@spiritandtimeakalilroachie7014 I personally don't remember it going like that, but then again, I often heal myself when I play these games even if Donald won't, so I didn't notice if he wasn't programmed to do so.

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Im honestly jealous of the Final Fantasy and Shin Megami Tensai communities at this point. They got their FF15 and Persona 5 and us KH fans STILL don't have our Kingdom Hearts 3. :(

DetectiveEthanaterBobbyFulbrightGamer yeah, I want too want KH3 rushed out this week

DJ Crimson Sunbird NO please NEVER rush any game, especially kh3 when it offers very deep gameplay.

Breno Ranyere jebber! I was 7 back then😆

Feelin' old already man? xD

Recently re-played KH3 and that Axel line where he says something along the lines of, “I’m too popular to kill off” made me legit chuckle.

Yeah, that's breathtaking tbh

That was when Nomura got sick of people taking the story too seriously. Like “See, it’s supposed to be this way. Happy now Western fans?!” Context: In Japan, a goofy story taking itself seriously is considered funny, and blatant self-awareness isn’t needed to convey that. In the West we have this idea that if the story takes itself seriously, the writer is too and thus it’s pretentious. There’s a cultural clash there. Resident Evil 4 is a good example. The story is meant to be stupid, but it’s tone was tailored to each region. In Japan the stupid story takes itself overly serious, in English it’s written as blatantly self-aware.

I alternate between loving it unironically and loving it ironically.

Snorlaxation I completely agree. I know it's kind of ridiculous, but I can't help but love it anyway.

In terms of heroes KH1 strongly loses KH2. For really interesting characters besides Riku in KH1 there

i can kinda understand the gist of the story but they do leave plot holes.

@Yay !!! Not really as easy as that - it's harder to tag them all since the series is so far-flung across many different platforms, and sometimes things get spilled in Japan-only interviews in the guides which has a bearing on things. (Though in those cases I'm prone to the SFDebris perspective: "You don't get credit for it because, and bear with me here, you *didn't* put it in the game!") And then there's a sizable mound of stuff which winds up left open to interpretation... The biggest plot holes all revolve around the pretty solid problem at the root of this all: the first Kingdom Hearts release did not have things properly in place to really support all the complexity being layered in later. It's the same as what happened with Hideo Kojima... The major reason I don't tear into it more is knowing I could not do a better job with such an ambitious level of crossover work myself, and won't even begin to try.

The plot isn't that hard to understand. It's just bad.

I think my brother said it best. "The story makes sense when you're playing through it and enjoying it, but then you try to explain it to someone 💀"

@@sodaftpm185 Actually no. Storytelling is bad

It's meant to be ridiculous. You aren't supposed to take it seriously. KH3 even constantly makes fun of how convoluted everything is.

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DarkSpike 75 And Sora will learn that being a hedgehog is not as easy as it looks.

But he's not the only one. Meet Donails the Fox And Kncukfy the Echidna!

and they face their gretest foe dr anseman

You Mean Nipples The Enchilada right??

Because of 1 of 3 reasons A. Just because B. The person doesn't normally get a lot of likes (me) C To be like everyone else doing it

They share a dualality

Caddy just released his chain of memorys review. Who u think he is. Donald duck

I know it's been 4 years, but I just wanted to check if things are going better.

Hate to say but I think this might be the series' biggest fault. I actually have no problem with the time travel, the hearts, the nobodies, etc etc etc, I find it all funny but there's no risk to any of it. I hope KH3 finally has the balls to kill off someone

Jarvis Johnson What's that? You wanna bring back DiZ and the Keyblade wielders from X? Sure thing!

I have to agree. Although the only problem with killing someone off is who would that be? There are a lot of loved KH characters out there and considering how DDD brought back a whole bunch of characters i really hope none of them get killed off. If you ask me Riku should be the one to die although within saying that i fucking love Riku so i don't know how i would feel about that. But like you said, hope KH3 has the balls to kill so one off too lol. (And we all know its gonna be painful)

DetectiveEthanaterBobbyFulbrightGamer Honestly with how much Nomura likes to takesies-backsies on character death, it tells the audience that if you want to imply that anyone else died, they'll think that those characters those characters are in no danger, thus removing the element of suspense.

+DetetctiveEthanaterBobbyblahblahblah I think the opportune time to let a character go is when their story is conclusively told. When the ark is met and the loose ends that came up are tied shut, a character should be allowed to leave. That doesn't necessarily mean death, but other sort of drop-offs, where they go to spend their days on something else. Axel should have died. His story was wrapped up quite well enough during KH2. All that goes on with Roxas, that was his whole shtick and by the time he died during KH2, that was when that plot-thread had seen it's length's end, when it was squeezed for all it's worth. However, this constant erasure of everything established appears in more than character death. It's a disease upon the series that feeds off every last bit of it's being. Chain of Memories is a whole story's worth of events and development that is rendered moot by it's own ending. The plight of the Nobodies is eventually revealed to have been just a hoax from the word "Go". Meddling was a piece of world-building undone so unceremoniously that I doubt Nomura even remembers including it anymore. Confounding all this is, to me, a very weak main character. Sora's cluelessness and narrow list of priorities during Kingdom Hearts 1 was not the strongest foot into a "Save the world" story, but it worked. It was reasonable for the situation he was in and he was filling our shoes as the outsider to this new universe. By the second game though? I'd expect Sora to have more of a perspective on the worlds and what's going on. I'm tiered of being dragged along this world by someone that needs absolutely *everything* explained to him. I'd wish Sora could have a more informed opinion on Light and Darkness than "Well, they're things, and I fight one of them" Actually, scratch that. I want the whole fucking series to have a more informed opinion on the matter. Honestly, in the context of Kingdom Hearts, what is light and darkness? What do these concepts mean? What is "The darkness within the heart" that turns one into a heartless? What is nothingness and how does that play into it? This issue delves into more than just lack of concrete context on anything. It's also a sign that the series lacks a central theme to revolve around and even if there was one, there exists nothing for that theme to express itself through. In any other narrative, concepts like light and darkness, pieces this central to the overarching narrative, would be used as tools of expression in order to speak about something. A message to be heard. The glue that everything in the story is built around. And it's not like there was no foundation for this. Kingdom hearts has always been super-into the power of friendship and the first game had things like the story of worlds scattering and meddling as this intrusive story-tidbit. Wouldn't it make sense that the Darkness would represent the anxiety that comes with inter-social relationships? The fear of those we don't understand, the hatred that we refuse to let go, make it an element that continues to sever the ties between the worlds and the destruction of worlds by darkness could thusly represent the self-destruction that seclusion and prejudice will lead to. Perhaps this could also be tied to Sora and Riku, the central characters of KH1. Sora, the messenger of light, is a wide-eyed, well-meaning extrovert, who desperately clings to others as he searches the worlds for his old friends, as he is weighed by low self-esteem and can't function without others helping him. Riku, the embracer of Darkness, is a selfish, cautious Introvert, perhaps motivated to set out to other worlds, because he fears the fragility of friendship and seeks to live a life on-the-road, never needing to worry about friends that abandon him, use him or betray him. Two flawed points of view and as the events of the narrative begin to unfold, both end up meeting each other halfway, as Sora is able to stand on his own and Riku learns to respect people. It's ultimately fundamental stuff that KH gets wrong from the very core.

SFC mr Raccoon Christ, I've seen that ad so many times.

That ad need to DIE!

They dont know my eyes like I do. _I have special eyes._

SFC mr Raccoon "They're destroying the whole town!" Lol fuck that ad

Hahahaha. I never thought somebody would say that

Too much hope for a shitty writer.

Well, time will tell. But yeah, not too optimistic so far.

Yeah it be nice for once the other worlds, you know interact with each other. Most we get is the villain alliance but each of them are only a deal in their own worlds. Like come on let this be an actual crossover. And yes I know theirs an explanation why they can't interact, but frankly it's a dumb explanation.

VladNorris Let's hope the Shitty writer doesn't catch on to other people bashing on him, Jk In any sense the story in my opinion is good until after BBS where I feel the writing gets "Shitty" I see your point. But seriously, don't blame everything on the one guy and instead, blame it on the people in the company who thought this guy's writing was "yeah this is good, put it in the game without a second thought". Just really.

BlueMageDanny I've read that KH3's Toy Story story will be its own new story. Will be interesting to see how it turns out. Story.

UltraPrincessKenny in the trailer for kingdom hearts 3 you see dark riku.

Yeah, that's a thing I think Johnny missed when going through these games. It's explained that, even though Riku wanted to go on a middle of the road path, he HAD to tap into the power of the darkness to capture Roxas, since Roxas was more than a match for him during the events of 358/2 Days. Rinu looking like Ansem also kinda makes sense, since a piece of Ansem still lingered within him after KHI.

Badboy2525, you know that's most likely Rikuplica, right?

Johnny didn't miss anything. His point was that suit and rikus road to dawn speech seem to imply that riku had made peace with the darkness in his heart and can use it properly. What happen in 2 imply's the opposite.

Don't forget Sonic Mania is due soon

He might be logging brhind again with Sonic Mania (on the bright side tge next SomeCallMeJohnny video should be due by either next weekend or two weeks from now)

Nana-Kyoto Now I know I've seen you somewhere before... Was it on Markiplier's vids? Game Grumps? I'ma have to go on a comments section adventure.

John had a head start though

Meta Shade Assassin's creed 3 opening is much worse. imo

AC3 opening is half the game!

Pokémon super mystery dungeon Pokémon diamond and pearl, pokémon Susan and moon has a pretty long opening too

Kyle Campbell Pokemon Susan

Matthew The Autism Guy stupid autocorrect

Uncle Bubbles yet her powers are incredibly plot convenient

Joe Green that’s true, but there is an explanation.

Except there isn't concerning her particualr set of powers.

Where did the memory powers come from?

The fact that he literally wrote the last several KH games with someone himself, I'm sure, doesn't poke holes in that argument.

Actually he leave plot points unexplained so that he can have ideas for the sequels.

@@Scsigs ... It literally doesn't, though?

Anti Fanboy his feet are wonky too.

THANK YOU!!!!!

that actually sums up most of my thoughts as well,while i can understand the basic plot enough to like it(most of ff honestly is bog standard despite being the foundation but does still be innovated with it's cast and tell people what to play and what to skip it really adds too much to a not able to hold it all narrative that while still feel there are way more convoluted series i stopped caring about(guilty gear/blazblue,metal gear outside the main games.) and writers that pull stuff out of their ass to excuse writing by their underwear they handled it with more heartfelt interactions which the series started to outside a few moments miss considering both ff and disney can be both very goofy but mature & dark(even nightmare inducing at times.) yet charmingly caring. that seriously in whatever the next saga is needs to dial it back with how forgotten(other ff characters as we haven't seen cloud,sephiroth & tifa since this game or other 7 characters like barret or the terks.),wasted(most of the organization,maleficent.) or underutilized(kairi/other playable characters,disney worlds meeting outside summons in a weird mandate,using the animated series or other square enix series like brave fencer musashi,hanjuku hero,dq,nier or chrono trigger that they could've used to explain how the time travel happened.) it is. i think it has way too many detours with the handheld games(don't blame people for being confused if you had to sit through 4-8 hours of something that could've been summed up in one cutscene with coded being the worst of it.),the original villains not being as charmingly hateful as ff's/disney's(and trying to excuse there horrible actions close to naruto levels with xehanort.) and for some reason not having the disney worlds be involved outside retelling the movie(with frozen being the worst of it just only put in as an advertisement.) it makes it feel upsetting and tiring to not get a grand adventure the series was building itself up as but a tied up investment that gets pulled back hard to where compared to other longer series it doesn't feel as worth it.

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Legend of awesome productions at least he doesn"s give up say "fuck it" to reboot the whole thing when story is stupid and is driven into a dead end like basically every fucking marvel series out there which people praise and hype for some reason even though writers never try to make a coherent story which starts and ends to begin with

I think it would be awesome if Square remade Kingdom hearts 1 and 2 with the same engine they used for kingdom hearts 3 and release it for PC, Xbox one and PS4.

Good for you. It still is terrible.

Lyric Ailove yet people read marvel/dc where story is written by a 7 year old, for 7 year olds..

@@HaohmaruHL ....

Piers they are excellent games and are absolutely worth the price of the collection with KH1 and KH2 alone. The rest is just bonus if you enjoy the story. The games for them is... bland. Not bad per se but not great by any means.

I mean, you can call it not telling you the truth, as though your opinion is almighty fact... OR you can say you didn't like the games and they aren't your recommendation. People CAN like different things in differing amounts. For example I LOVE FFXIII, and honestly believe it gets a lot of hate just because it has a bad rep now. Its no less linear than many RPG experiences, its just a little more honest. I personally really enjoy basically everything about the game but I know its flawed, I just love it anyway. Don't expect for anyone else to like or dislike the things you do.

Just Michael Can you actually not?

I guarantee you there is a community of fans for FF13. Its not great, we know, we love it, its not trash. I love the storytelling as I felt it worked perfectly. I know it uses a hell of a lot of jargon and doesn't explain it to you immediately but it DOES explain all the jargon without the datalogs. Reading them just gets you there faster. Eveytime I saw datalog updated I would open it and read the new logs. I'm a giant fan of datalogs and other world-building concepts so my bias leaves me little ground to stand on. It has its fans and that's why it works, even if that fanbase is smaller than the majority. Each character experiences an excellent arc that really does improve them as a character. I actually like all the characters but definitely agree that Vanille (as well as Hope) can be grating at times. My favorite is actually Sazh who looks like a joke but is a pretty deep character, and arguably acts the most like a real human out of every character in the franchise. The "automatic" gameplay is something I don't really have the tools to change you on as it requires you to completely change how you see the combat. I can present the argument but I can't make you see it that way. Individual actions mean far less, for one, making micromanaging your actions feel less rewarding and the time it takes to select up those actions is longer than other games, making auto-battle very enticing. Autobattle will clear most mobs in the game, with little issue. That doesn't account for the fact that you have to track everything happening in the battle and make changes to your paradigms on the fly, which a lot of people pass over but processing it all isn't automated by the game (though, through playing it becomes automated by you). That all said, if your are someone who shoots for 5-stars and cares about scoring the best you can by being the best, auto-battle will not get you there. When you fight late game bosses like the Barthandelus fights, and when you do the difficult hunts (as well as fighting the superbosses like the Adamantoise Variant) you can't just spam autobattle. You have to know exactly what actions you are taking, and will be taking, at every moment or you will just die, over and over again. I can beat every Adamantoise variant in the game consistently, and I can tell you that autobattle can't do that. Autobattle doesn't work for getting 5-stars on all Cie'th stone battles (or even beat a good number of them). Paradigms are so much more strategy then people make them out to be and there are plenty of times where you can find yourself trying to condense the 10 paradigms you want into the 6 you need. Managing the boosting and the maintaining of the stagger guage is another important skill altogether. Anyway, that was way more of an essay then I meant it to be so, TLDR; your opinion is yours and most modern games are far more than objectively good or bad. If you don't like FFXIII and KH2, then I respect your opinions but disagree with them. Mine are not fact, if I can accept that, you can too.

Piers Love you bae

That's pretty much how I think Normura writes KH. I think he comes up with a small handful of key details ahead of time (mostly character designs and lore concepts), but then makes up everything else in between as he goes along.

That's basically how like 90% of all the writers that ever lived has dealed with their sequels. Think of a main line or a concept and expand it.

Finally, I'm not the only one who thinks Proud is harder than Critical!

SHHHHHHH Nomura might be listening!!!!

^- Aren't you the one always commenting in Nico's videos? xD

YaBoyAlan Kingdom Hearts 3 never got delayed.

Still loving how people have no faith in Nomura. Seriously, name *ONE* fucking time a KH game has been delayed due to development issues. You can't.

Kingdom080500 You can't delay a game when there's no release date! We've been getting 'it's coming' for years and only recently got '2018'. So we have anywhere between a few months to a year and a half for it to actually drop. I actually don't think it'll come out during holiday season though, since the competition is always so rough at that time and the hype will probably have died down too much by then. It'll be interesting to see when they decide to do it.

Zinervawyrm haha nice spot! He really doesxD

You haven't seen Metal Gear Solid 4.

@@jacobmonks3722 Nah. MGS4 just has a lot of exposition, it's not that complex. It's verbose, not complicated

It's not really, just a lot to remember

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! 🎉🎊🎁🎂🍰🍧

Congrats mate

Dragonfly Dreams It's explained in Dream Drop Distance in the dumbest way.

Ah, I never played that one. In this game however, they literally never give a single reason, so I don't get how we are supposed to care or understand their motives at all.

So he makes changes as he goes along?

Sloppy execution is not a debate against him already having the plot thought of. That just means it's sloppy execution. Though I think he got better as the games went on, since a lot of plot twists were foreshadowed a few games in advance.

Everyone makes changes as they go along.

Could he's changes be more focused?

+KidSnivy96 It'd be nice if he could make his changes more focused. First he changes the series into a platformer with Echidnas and a Crocodile trying to find God, and then it's about a Bandicoot collecting crystals and gems!

They're right

You should probably rethink your idea of liking a complicated story.

Alyssa not Alissa its really not that complicated it took me a 2 weeks to play the games and to figure it out people really over exaggerate the story

happy 15th anniversary kingdom hearts 2!!! :3 i love the story as well and think people seriously over exaggerate as it's really not convoluted(seriously metal gear,fucking blazblue/guilty gear and even zelda in the 3d games whose story is "medieval mario" past the presumptuous flavor text outside a few games have more pretentious/actual up the ass convoluted mess of lore than this.) but it definitely has flaws like every story does.(my problem in this game being some final fantasy characters like vivi and especially setzer being screwed up personality wise not adding the characters & lore of their story fitting it and in hindsight wish the organization interacted more with maleficent/pete since they're the reason she came back to begin with.) i find the console games easy to understand but hate the handheld games as they're where the plot gets tedious(they sidetrack and take too long either explaining ultimately unimportant beings, something that could've been a cutscene/secret ending,getting cuckoo bananas with pronunciation which i hate coded for both or just have the characters being kicked around with barely any satisfaction with ddd being the worst of it.i can seriously tell a newcomer what happens in the handheld games in a nutshell and tell them to stick with the handheld games which isn't new to this series and has been done worse.)and think they forgot things during it(the final fantasy characters being forgotten until remind,maleficent being the equivalent of dark age eggman,kairi sadly being underused when i thought her past was interesting and the disney worlds feeling left behind when they're ways you can have them be involved without crossing over yet.)that have hurt the series.(seriously don't fully think johnny should completely be a newcomers first judgement as at times he can be pretty shallow like here/outright dumb in other cases with stories both simple like kirby or more meat added than normal like street fighter for as much as i still love him and agree on things like sonic's tone/direction some series potentially could go or really gets his wires crossed liked the time travel in sonic 06 which was a stable loop it was more they can do it with no limitations.) for the next saga i'd love to see along with other disney series(alongside movies like robin hood,the rescuers,the great mouse detective,atlantis,the emperor's new groove,moana,brother bear/pocahontas,the jungle book,disney fairies,treasure planet and fantasia 2000 maybe pixar like the incredibles,up,brave and a bugs life and the tv series like wander over yonder maybe having lord hater team up with maleficent and lord dominator with the next big threat/make her the new main villain,gargoyles,dave the barbarian,kim possible,the proud family,american dragon,phineas and ferb,recess,big city greens,the owl house and the disney afternoon if not as worlds than side quest.:3) other final fantasy series(like make dissidia's cast the 13 lights and the villains the 13 darkness if anything to see kefka,show what happened to cloud like maybe he and tifa alongside barret & the other 7 party members tag along to help sora,riku and kairi which i wished happened with tifa & the gullwings in 2,rework some of them and make worlds for them since in 2's ending rinoa is teased and zack shows up still tied to sephiroth.),maybe even other square enix worlds(like dragon quest,brave fencer musashi,chrono trigger to better explain the time travel,the bouncer,maybe tie the city sora is in to the new world ends with you game as everyone originally thought it was and nier.),dial it back a bit plotwise to just the main cast now that maleficent/the remaining organization members are the main threat(the x stuff is where i hard don't care as i'd rather they focus on the main group.),have the disney worlds finally crossover(it's shown now they have to interfere/the world was originally connected maybe have it slowly be brought together with fun interactions with the square/disney cast since there are new princesses of heart.) and make the other characters playable freely.(which should've happened in 3.)

You can't blame them though. The story is bad, you can't expect everyone to like it.

But, how does THAT work? "Shut up!"

But no earthquakes happened or snow fell, though there was a lot of shit that went down that Sora doesn't remember so there's that at least.

Well, 13 months into 2018. Eh? Eh?

Thanos your dumb

Elijah Smith I don’t think the story is broken. But it’s extremely overdone and as I put it “up it’s own ass”

Yes

But its not even about Disney nor Final Fantasy. The main plot at least.

DetectiveEthanaterBobbyFulbrightGamer It's about...... Something?

It has its own original story with original characters with FF and Disney characters on the side. Well Disney characters only now lol we haven't seen any relevant FF characters since KH2.

I kind of wish the Disney and Final Fantasy stuff actually melded more like just the ridiculous sureal-ness of seeing disney characters and FF characters analyzing each other's motives and ways of living more than they do because in both cases respectively most have it easy when it comes to their lives while others are more related to real life struggle and personal examination of one's life while others just mess around and have fun with no consquences cause that's how their universes were built like And if the main characters actually took those thought processes into their own thinking that would be cool development to me cause you see these different worlds and perspectives and then you ask yourself on your own personal interests and way of living