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JoJo - The Heaven Plan 

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A look at the concept of Heaven, the process of obtaining it, and its relationship with Fate.
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Intro: Crazy My Beat - Coda
Stardust Man Appears
Dark Rebirth
Maze
Tense
Cape Canaveral - EoH
The Right Path

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@tomasiarity
@tomasiarity Год назад
Dio lost to Jonathan. And Dio coped so hard, that he discovered and invisible force that explained his loss.
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat Год назад
“Nah bro I was supposed to lose, some people will think they won, but so did we”
@Symonch_
@Symonch_ Год назад
have you ever been beaten so hard, you realized the incomprehensible forces driving universes?
@ComeNalgi
@ComeNalgi Год назад
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat lol wizard of the coast quote
@konatadusk
@konatadusk Год назад
an*
@JSt3pz
@JSt3pz Год назад
@@konatadusk ?
@BelieveIt1051
@BelieveIt1051 Год назад
Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that despite Made in Heaven advancing time to insane speeds, Rohan Kishibe still got his manga in by the fuckin' deadline!
@yourprobablywrong3149
@yourprobablywrong3149 Год назад
Rohan solos Pucci
@goroakechi6126
@goroakechi6126 Год назад
@@yourprobablywrong3149 HEAVEN’S DOOR! ‘Rohan Kishibe kills Enrico Pucci at 7:14 AM in Cape Canaveral, FL’
@TojiFushigoroWasTaken
@TojiFushigoroWasTaken Год назад
Writes that pucci is a tree and pees on it
@Casual_Gaming5
@Casual_Gaming5 10 месяцев назад
Rohan the true Chad 🗿
@romola7
@romola7 8 месяцев назад
That's what we call employee of the month
@TravTravYT
@TravTravYT Год назад
"He trusted Pucci" followed by "He sent him to Florida" got me howling for some reason, you trust him THAT much lmao
@thewhat9204
@thewhat9204 Год назад
You can't achieve world domination without conquering Florida first
@RandomFullbringer
@RandomFullbringer Год назад
here in florida we get so many stand users
@user-ru1fm6xn4x
@user-ru1fm6xn4x 10 месяцев назад
@@RandomFullbringer fr i got a cousing thats got a stand
@RandomFullbringer
@RandomFullbringer 10 месяцев назад
@@user-ru1fm6xn4x yeah and the weather is crazy enough so probably a weather manipulation stand user in the area
@corndawgtabrocker6969
@corndawgtabrocker6969 8 месяцев назад
Florida is a crazy bizarre state
@SethIsTheBethst
@SethIsTheBethst 3 года назад
Bruh Pucci’s way to evolve his stand is the same type of shit as following some elaborate guide to try and find a Mew under the truck in Pokemon
@WEB-0813
@WEB-0813 2 года назад
Or a COD zombies secret. Seriously some of that shit needs like a 3 page guide to do it
@silva2094
@silva2094 2 года назад
Im fucking dead bro 😂😂
@thenintenbrogamer6022
@thenintenbrogamer6022 2 года назад
@@silva2094 lmao
@cherryp0ffs
@cherryp0ffs 2 года назад
Or try to evolve a dragonite into a yoshi
@thenintenbrogamer6022
@thenintenbrogamer6022 2 года назад
@@marcellofp7465 no no it's not
@parkouremaster
@parkouremaster 3 года назад
"Ok so, what's your talent?" Hamon Beat: I understood jojo's plot "Ok you're in"
@catvonblaue3905
@catvonblaue3905 3 года назад
"Whats Your Talent?" I leave when im not the impostor. "Ok Your In."
@ronramen5827
@ronramen5827 3 года назад
AND FOR ONCE WASN’T CONDESCENDING AND ELITIST AS HECC Pretty epic ngl
@myunghochung4290
@myunghochung4290 3 года назад
@Bird Brain oh god Arakis racist
@mr_0n10n5
@mr_0n10n5 3 года назад
"If he's in, then I'm in"
@groovygrabs6164
@groovygrabs6164 3 года назад
@Nhung Óc Chó no but Hamon has said some pretty questionably racist stuff over on Twitter.
@warlem3788
@warlem3788 3 года назад
"Do you believe in gravity?" Jotaro: N O "Flies away"
@midnightbacon2857
@midnightbacon2857 2 года назад
Considering that its Jotaro he would see the little rod things flying and say "so its the same type of stand" and then just fly
@ashurad_fox5991
@ashurad_fox5991 2 года назад
"Made in heaven manipulates gravity, making accelerate time and restart the universe with only my stand able (change) fate!" "So it's the same stand as star platinum" "Nani?" "Star platinum, made in heaven!"
@warlem3788
@warlem3788 2 года назад
@@ashurad_fox5991 ahh yes, star platinum act 3 be like
@silversonome5360
@silversonome5360 2 года назад
"Do you believe in [Gravity]?" "Pffft, screw [Gravity]!" *Floats away with comical whistle sound*
@redactedallvegemight8415
@redactedallvegemight8415 2 года назад
@@silversonome5360 ha screw gravity!
@thefluffyaj4119
@thefluffyaj4119 2 года назад
ive always felt so bad for emporio. imagine being the only one to understand everything that had happened, with no one to confide in or understand the terrifying experiences you went through. how you alone, as an 11 year old child, were tasked with saving the world from this very powerful man with the ability to do so many things. emporio likely can't tell anyone else, at least not in a way they would understand or even believe him
@hazardouz9935
@hazardouz9935 2 года назад
see from my understanding of how the ending is Jotaro still fights dio and is able to end the evil as the new world removes pucci's existence. So that's why Jolyne no longer has the jojo name, and while it's over, maybe part 4 & 5 still happen due to residial evil from dio. So Emporio may still be able to have jotaro still be one of the few people to maybe understand what Emporio went through.
@hazardouz9935
@hazardouz9935 2 года назад
unless i'm complety wrong and all characters truly reset with no knowledge of stands and lived their lives as ordinary people
@tpsam
@tpsam 2 года назад
@@hazardouz9935 I think the above one is correct Emporio explains everything to jotaro Jotaro thinks this kid is crazy but the details are exactly matching his own memories of Egypt and DIO so he would still believes him Jotaro yare yare daze Emporio there is this guy koichi I respect him very much now I understand that you're a somewhat similar to him Let me give you this advice 1 Don't even think about telling Irene about it she's no joylene But in the end of the day everyone here is happy Irene even without being joylene she's still as kind as joylene was for you In this way you still have most of your friendships intact Enjoy it like that
@immortaldubs
@immortaldubs 2 года назад
@@tpsam But if everything the same why does part 7 have counter parts to every character thought the parts?
@ahmed4363
@ahmed4363 Год назад
@@immortaldubs because its not connected to part 6 at all. think of a multiverse with billions of universes. The original jojo universe is on the far left of the multiverse and the sbr universe is somewhere else entirely.
@c_xela
@c_xela Год назад
My theory is that Dio, thinking that his fate was to conquer and rule the world, planned all of this so that the world would accept that reality. There would be no resistance and no hope for humanity, just acceptance of Dio's permanent reign.
@hudgemartin9391
@hudgemartin9391 3 года назад
I still can't believe Araki nuked the first universe so we can have a deeper understanding on fate
@nrggvrn5576
@nrggvrn5576 3 года назад
But it's Araki
@megamanxz-fb7oz
@megamanxz-fb7oz 3 года назад
And killed every single character from stone ocean
@megamanxz-fb7oz
@megamanxz-fb7oz 3 года назад
@@RoboPowGaming they died, they didn't revive after pucci died nor lived a better life, those are not the main cast, those are other people filling their places
@randomguyee
@randomguyee 3 года назад
Later they nuke more universe to make more jojo episodes
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 3 года назад
@@megamanxz-fb7oz that ending was confusing. yeah those are completely new characters in their place, kinda sad
@strikermodel
@strikermodel 3 года назад
The irony in all of this, is that the whole goal was to come to accept fate. However, DIO and Pucci's fatal weakness was not accepting their own fate to fail.
@danielkang1560
@danielkang1560 2 года назад
I finished jojo’s a while ago and totally forgot that was a huge thing, dio losing to jotaro was because of this.
@lewisaino
@lewisaino 2 года назад
They always thought they would win but if they didn't think about that outcome maybe they could have suceed since they got prepared .
@Pusingoding
@Pusingoding 2 года назад
I mean dio & pucci believe they will win
@HerohammerStudios
@HerohammerStudios 2 года назад
That statement is a lot less profound than you think it is. A lot more stupid too
@ericc9321
@ericc9321 2 года назад
Dio had an *understanding* of Fate, not absolute knowledge of it. He knew he and the Joestars were destined to have it out, but not certainty of victory. His understanding of Fate is what lead to him not being afraid, because hiss Fate would be the same whether he stresed out about it or if he grandstanded.
@june3624
@june3624 2 года назад
I have to hand it to DIO, the guy is one of the more interesting villains I've come to know. Not only did he want world domination, but the guy had plans and beliefs, unusual for someone who rejected their humanity.
@f.p.2010
@f.p.2010 2 года назад
DIO is one of the best villains for this reason. World domination developed to world saving
@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292
@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 2 года назад
Araki just made me love dio. I thought he was generic shonen villain but until i finished SO my opinion of dio changed.
@mur8255
@mur8255 2 года назад
@@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 same
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 2 года назад
He has a God complex. He didn't care for saving anything.
@Sam-vk8xd
@Sam-vk8xd 2 года назад
Well, his motivations certainly changed the longer he lived, that’s for sure. Plus a 100 years at the bottom of the sea in a coffin using your ultimate enemy’s body to survive gives you a lot of time to think about your purpose and rethink your personal motives.
@Limit02
@Limit02 Год назад
Something that I thought about when seeing the ending again through the anime was that, when Pucci was about to be killed, he begged Emporio to wait until the cycle was complete, then he would accept his defeat. But if that was the case, he wouldn’t have stopped the acceleration briefly in the first place, he just couldn’t accept that the Joestars will and Emporio (the one carrying on that will) would carry over and potentially defeat him in the future of his and Dio’s new universe, and that proved to be his undoing, trying to bend fate to his will one last time.
@Pargus
@Pargus Год назад
Exactly, I find it quite funny that Pucci thought to himself: "Hell nah, I need to stop the time acceleration for a moment, this 11 years old kid is too much of a threat to me."
@truly_ancient
@truly_ancient Год назад
sorry for asking but how does the universe reset again after pucci dies?
@Limit02
@Limit02 Год назад
@@truly_ancient it’s more like it “unresets” since Pucci didn’t get to compete the reset, but this “unreset universe” didn’t include Pucci since he died prior to its creation
@pkmntrainerred4247
@pkmntrainerred4247 2 месяца назад
​​@@truly_ancientIts more like an altered reset or "glitchy reset" since the changes in the OG plan caused changes in how the new universe turned out, especially Pucci's death which meant that from that point onward, he could not control how the new universe turned out
@umarb7325
@umarb7325 29 дней назад
@@Pargus he was smart. Being an agent of Dio he understood perfectly what could happen if he let Emporio run loose. It was also the one time he knew Emporio's location with certainty. It was then or never
@RigalicReign
@RigalicReign 3 года назад
Gravity is the weakest in Florida... So what you're saying is every Florida man has full control over their fate... My God!!!
@briang.2218
@briang.2218 3 года назад
yee. "Florida Man" is humanity's final stage.
@rockingtundra2830
@rockingtundra2830 3 года назад
Dio: “So, you want to attain Heaven?” Florida Man: “Lol, no.”
@dermond1792
@dermond1792 3 года назад
I DONT GET THIS MEME
@RigalicReign
@RigalicReign 3 года назад
@@dermond1792 Look up Florida man and you will just be astounded at what humans can do
@mrslithers3644
@mrslithers3644 3 года назад
We need Florida man’s bizarre adventure
@salty_3k506
@salty_3k506 3 года назад
I love how everything is so interconnected in JoJo. I never thought about all of the plot points in conjunction.
@GalekC
@GalekC 3 года назад
yes, and this is VERY overlooked by half the fanbase, lol, go figure
@thesuntitan
@thesuntitan 3 года назад
So many fans are obsessed with dumb, almost inconsequential details (like fucking Star Finger) and miss the carefully crafted recurring themes.
@tmdiz4579
@tmdiz4579 3 года назад
Neither did araki so do not worry about it.
@salty_3k506
@salty_3k506 3 года назад
@@tmdiz4579 Oh yeah, everything is connected by accident ???
@Mr_December
@Mr_December 3 года назад
I mostly felt this in JoJolion. Everything makes you confused until it starts coming together all at once
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 года назад
When the Stone Ocean anime finally comes out, more and more people will appreciate it for its story and characters
@StrugglerAgainstFate
@StrugglerAgainstFate 2 года назад
Yeah still can't wait for part 6
@Toxic_Death
@Toxic_Death 2 года назад
We meet again.
@izwan-tf7li
@izwan-tf7li 2 года назад
I know you target videos have a lot of viewers and comments everywhere just want to get some attention
@StrugglerAgainstFate
@StrugglerAgainstFate 2 года назад
@@izwan-tf7li he don't want attention he just sharing his opinion
@StrugglerAgainstFate
@StrugglerAgainstFate 2 года назад
@@izwan-tf7li he just actually famous commenter
@jaynine454
@jaynine454 Год назад
Pucci by far was one of the most terrifying villains. He wasn’t consumed by world domination, gaining the ultimate power, or having a “quiet life.” In his mind, what he is doing is selfless, and he genuinely believes what he is doing is right. He is as determined as the Joestar bloodline, often times calm, cool and collected- it was so wild to see a villain who was constantly one or two steps ahead of Joylene and the crew, and a first to see a villain make even Jotaro panic. Easily one of my favorite villains in general of all time.
@michaelq4965
@michaelq4965 Год назад
He was literally just lucky (or "fate"). He wasn't ahead of them, Pucci even admits to it. It only worked out because Araki wanted it to work out despite at least 10 times they could have/should have killed him.
@trhytuhtfyjutrfh
@trhytuhtfyjutrfh Год назад
@@michaelq4965 Araki had to nerf Jotaro's time stop even more lmao, since MiH reduces how long it reallys is
@allmasterofficial
@allmasterofficial 11 месяцев назад
​@@michaelq4965 Stop coping, Pucci outsmarted the cast multiple times, also if anything, jotaro would have been killed by Dio if not for "luck".
@1lham_edits
@1lham_edits 9 месяцев назад
That's "fate".
@legionbeast
@legionbeast 3 года назад
"Polnareff, have you ever considered why humans wish to live? Humans live hoping to conquer their anxieties and fears, and attain *peace of mind.* Seeking fame, controlling others, and acquiring wealth are all done to achieve *peace of mind.* Marriage and friendship are also pursued as a means of attaining *peace of mind.* When humans say they wish to help others, or that a thing is done for love or justice... It's all merely to give themselves *peace of mind.* To achieve *peace of mind* is the goal of all mankind. Now, given that, what anxiety could you possibly feel toward serving me? Any other *peace of mind* will come easily if you do." - DIO - Part 3.
@bobjim4126
@bobjim4126 3 года назад
Holy shit
@Unkle_Genny
@Unkle_Genny 3 года назад
Nice profile pic. I saw it and immediately went “That’s a Kanohi Kraahkan! Nice!” lol
@linkholder
@linkholder 3 года назад
Araki totally is now God.
@user-pj1ec5om5g
@user-pj1ec5om5g 3 года назад
"DIO got retconned in part 6" "DIO was just a psychopath,none of that philosophy shit"
@CrraVideos
@CrraVideos 3 года назад
NOOOOOOOOO BUT DIO WAS A CRAZY DUDE N PART 3 YOU CAN SAY THAT
@hUUUURRRR
@hUUUURRRR 3 года назад
"He gave pucci one of his bones" Other bones were also given during that time
@moderncrusader1150
@moderncrusader1150 3 года назад
Everytime I close my eyes.....
@crow2053
@crow2053 3 года назад
god damn it
@sussusamongus535
@sussusamongus535 3 года назад
Hol up
@demiurge2501
@demiurge2501 3 года назад
I hate it here
@pawewawrzyniak6462
@pawewawrzyniak6462 3 года назад
It's actually Jonathan's bone, not DIO's lmao
@PerFectCell92
@PerFectCell92 Год назад
Pucci: “That’s a good plan DIO, but why tf do I need to do all of this random a** sh**?” DIO: “because I made it the f*** up”
@Rakka5
@Rakka5 Год назад
Why do you censor yourself?
@PerFectCell92
@PerFectCell92 Год назад
@@Rakka5 because people being people I had someone spam my replies once to censor my comment. Wouldn’t shut up so I just do it.
@Jpx0999
@Jpx0999 Год назад
Basically dio is absorbing the souls of sinners who have stronger mentality to evolve his stand,But to achieve heaven he needs to NOT have desire for fame,money or sex,hence why he count do it,Thats where the green Baby come in,with being basically dio reincarnated But with his ego being pratically at point zero means pucci keeps control during the fusion,meaning made in heaven is now possible
@gmattonline6068
@gmattonline6068 Год назад
@@PerFectCell92 I feel bad for you
@GG256_
@GG256_ 2 года назад
Part 6 is by far the most complex and interesting thing Araki has ever written. The depth to complete this ritual and the character motivations are *literally* the penultimate event in this universe. I'm so glad the anime is good.
@lordraiden7397
@lordraiden7397 2 года назад
Part 6 is shit but I agree that the heaven plan was a lovely addition to the series. The ending was great as well
@matthewhernandez6309
@matthewhernandez6309 2 года назад
Nah part 6 is great
@GG256_
@GG256_ 2 года назад
@@lordraiden7397 Well like everything, it's subjective. I love part 6 and 7 but I can understand what people criticize all the parts for tbh. I'm still not sure how I feel about Jojolion.
@lordraiden7397
@lordraiden7397 2 года назад
@@GG256_ JoJolion is Araki doing too much rather than having little to no ideas.
@analisamelculo85
@analisamelculo85 2 года назад
@@lordraiden7397 No part is shit, specially part 6 stfu
@spikesponge7005
@spikesponge7005 3 года назад
Can't wait until the anime gets released and people realize how much this part slaps LETS FUCKING GO
@thelettera582
@thelettera582 3 года назад
Yeah some chapters are really amazing
@iforgottbh4488
@iforgottbh4488 3 года назад
Frankly part 7 onward is a fun ride
@fartchannelremoved8305
@fartchannelremoved8305 3 года назад
YEEEES
@thewitchbasket
@thewitchbasket 3 года назад
username checks out
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 3 года назад
STALE SOURBREAD REMAINDER SMOOCH METEOROLOGIST PAPER LIBERATED MINERAL XD
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 3 года назад
I thought 'Gravity' was also the gravity between people and is also linked with fate, KIND OF like the "Stand users attract other stand users" Hazamada said
@Hamon_Beat
@Hamon_Beat 3 года назад
Yes
@rashid8646
@rashid8646 3 года назад
"Gravity" is fate, but also time. Control gravity like C-Moon and you control time, and with that you manipulate fate as Pucci does in the new universe.
@fartchannelremoved8305
@fartchannelremoved8305 3 года назад
Well yes, since all happens, cuz of gravity, like why DIO SMT Pucci, that was gravity. I think it’s a pretty cool consult and would like someone to go in depth to it
@ronnoble8456
@ronnoble8456 3 года назад
If fate is gravity, then, if you're in space, would you be affected by fate?
@Hamon_Beat
@Hamon_Beat 3 года назад
@@ronnoble8456 There is gravity in space
@boombombam3780
@boombombam3780 Год назад
How does Dio even know how to achieve this zombie’s Easter egg Ass plan
@bushman6964
@bushman6964 Год назад
Because he’s dio
@Sin_Doog
@Sin_Doog Год назад
Because he’s dio
@johnlucas2838
@johnlucas2838 Год назад
Read Jotaro's memory which contained the plan from Dio's Diary.
@Skibbutz
@Skibbutz Год назад
Well, he probably got all the fate stuff from Enya, all the stuff with the Green baby is just basic alchemy, and the Time Gravity stuff is normal Science. Toss em all together and BOOM.. Heaven plan created
@real_nosferatu
@real_nosferatu Год назад
Jonathan's Stand
@puncherofbread
@puncherofbread Год назад
The ting that was really funny to me about Pucci's defeat was that he only lost because Made In Heaven accelerates time and he would have won if he still ad C-Moon or White Snake. Which pretty much means he became so powerful that he accidently developed a weakness to something that wouldn't have been a problem for him earler.
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil 3 года назад
Missed opportunity to say "Hopefully with this video you've reached truth"
@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard
@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard 3 года назад
attained heaven* Y'know, to be thematic
@jeffmaine8759
@jeffmaine8759 3 года назад
you will never reach the truth :/
@rojaedavis8367
@rojaedavis8367 3 года назад
None who stands before me will reach the truth, regardless of their abilities. This is *GOLDEN EXPERIENCE REQUIEM*
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil 3 года назад
@Stefan Ostojic No
@TheMostFreeGuy
@TheMostFreeGuy 3 года назад
@@rojaedavis8367 shinjetsu tamaro kaden qui jen cun KUREGA REQUIEM DA idk I just typed random shit
@michaelbonanno2668
@michaelbonanno2668 3 года назад
So the reason all main antagonist in parts 3-6 have time-related Stands could be because of a strong wish to alter fate.
@rishic1030
@rishic1030 3 года назад
Exactly. In fact, even Dio Brando (part 1) and Kars had "time-related" abilities or fate-altering abilities (in the form of immortality). They rejected their humanity (or pillarmen status? you get the point) to achieve the fate altering ability of immortality, allowing them to supersede their fate of eventual death. DIO's stand in part 3 Literally could stop time so he could alter its flow. Kira got BTD so that he could keep the fate of no one finding out about his identity. Diavolo/KC had the ability to skip time because he could effectively alter fate enough to always keep himself on top. Pucci got MIH to... well the video told you XD. However, it is their obsession with fate and overcoming it that leads to all these characters' downfalls. Dio gets immortality? He gets locked in a coffin and cannot die in there and is left alone for 100 years. Kars can't die? Gets stuck in space and stops thinking. DIO thought he could alter fate with his stand? BOOM Jotaro had the same stand the whole time and defeated him with his own ability- fate literally followed DIO into his "world of stopped time." Kira wanted to live a quiet and peaceful life where he could control everything happening to him? Well, he gets run over by an ambulance (a complete COINCIDENCE that he could not control) and spent an eternity with the hands suffering his worst nightmare and never got to live that quiet life ever again. Diavolo wanted to remain at the top for all eternity? Well, like Ozymandias, King of Kings, he was forced to relive the lowest moment of his life for all eternity (dying)- a cruel sort of immortality. I guess I ranted a lot but Araki really put a lot of effort into intertwining fate into the stories of these villains and how trying to overcome it with brute force rather than with a sense of righteousness and justice will ultimately lead to demise.
@mrreyes5004
@mrreyes5004 3 года назад
@@rishic1030 Epic analysis. I'd like to throw in my hat and point out how, by contrast, none of the protagonists really give a shit about Fate, either changing their own fates or destiny in general. Jonathan, Joseph, Jotaro, Josuke, Giorno and Jolyne, despite being just as capable of big-brain plays as the antagonsits and displaying even more willpower than them, were all content with merely living their normal lives until the JoFoes' plans step on their toes and force their hand - Dio attacking Jonathan's loved ones (and pretty much ruining his entire life), Kars and the Pillar Men threatening the livelihoods of Joseph and all humanity, DIO literally just _existing_ causing Jotaro's mom to fall gravely ill and his defeat and death being the only cure, Kira's murder spree endangering the town Josuke loved and cared for, Diavolo's moral-deprived drug business ruining Giorno's nation (and generally pissing him off), and Pucci using Jolyne and her father as pawns to force the Heaven plan on the entire planet. Even Giorno, who is really the only proactive JoJo, only takes action against Diavolo because Diavolo's intent to run a drug cartel while stepping on anyone disrupting his private life ended up destroying the lives of so many people in Giorno's town. Any one of them were just as capable of trying to challenge fate as the villains, but _didn't_ because, consciously or not, they accept that they, just like everyone else with or without a fantastic spiritual superpower, have no control over what life will throw at them. In fact, the only times the protagonists gain time-altering abilities is only when they're in the climax of the struggle against said time-altering villains, and even then it only happens twice out of the four original Stand-oriented Parts (Jotaro's Star Platinum copying The World and Giorno's Gold Experience evolving into Gold Experience Reqiuem), almost as if the JoJos themselves are Fate's emergency counter force to those foolish/arrogant enough to attempt to cheat and overcome it. This would go hand in hand with Hamon Beat's explanation of why Jolyne's Post-MiH self lacks the JoJo naming convention (Irene) since the defeat of Pucci, the last of those seeking to overcome Fate, means that there is nothing left for her and the Joestar bloodline to counter. Simply put, while there is a clear signature moral gap between the Joestars and the JoFoes, what really separates them is that the JoJos are content and humble enough to live with what they are destined to have and face against, and only take action when a threat appears to assert themselves over the natural order, be it immortality (Dio, Kars), escaping punishment for misdeeds (Kira, Diavolo) or flat-out playing God with reality itself (DIO, Diavolo, Pucci), at which point they do what any hero does when they see wrong-doing and defeat it. Ironically, while all the first six Joestars are idealistic to at least some extent, they're also the ones forcing the villains to truly face reality.
@lewismartin3430
@lewismartin3430 3 года назад
yeah... dios was a desire to rule over the whole world giving him the "ultimate stand" who can act out the heaven plan. kira wanted to change his fate by preventing people from discovering him. hence bites the dust. diavalo is obvious with him thinking his premonitions and time skip made him "chosen by fate"
@dzakwantammam7592
@dzakwantammam7592 3 года назад
How about AU Diego's The World? (I'm sorry if this sounds like a stupid question. I'm just curious.)
@michaelbonanno2668
@michaelbonanno2668 3 года назад
@@dzakwantammam7592 Honestly Diego's The World is just fanservice, it doesn't really go deeper than that
@yaro6963
@yaro6963 2 года назад
To be completely honest, after finishing stone ocean manga I couldn't help but feel upset for the universe ending this way, but as you mentioned, the characters' future is now free of battling DIO and his consequenses, which makes fate free to change and this, as I see it now, is the true definition of heaven
@GreatFlamingEyebrows_
@GreatFlamingEyebrows_ Год назад
I think the most genius part of connecting fate to gravity is the concept of gravitational potential energy. The higher you go working against gravity the more potential energy you have. Therefore, by working against fate you are giving fate more energy to work against you. This is what happened to Diavolo. He used his stand to make himself immune to fate thereby increasing his ‘gravitational potential energy’ and causing fate to come down even harder on his defeat by Giorno
@yaujj65
@yaujj65 Месяц назад
That explains a lot of sense. If we use the Flow and Calamity concept from the SBR universe, in a sense, all the stored calamity strikes Diavolo hard. But if changing fate is also fated, then why does fate cause all the evil? Does fate control how people are born and their souls character? Does fate allow the universe rest to begin with? While I understand fate in Jojo, I wonder they allow tragedy to happen. It reminds me of a character from Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2, Kriea. Who wishes to destroy the Force who she feels manipulate tragedy in the galaxy. She found this concept with the existance of The Exile, who had cut her connection to the Force and yet live. Still fate in Jojo is more benvelonet like The Force Star Wars compared to other stories fate like all those old cartoons. I just wish they communicate better, otherwise they feel like The Emperor from TTS.
@tale7955
@tale7955 3 года назад
Araki: *Uses the word heaven because dio means god* Hamon: * rediscovers relativity and string theory*
@soseikiharagatatsu7859
@soseikiharagatatsu7859 3 года назад
Kono dio da!
@kakashihatake4698
@kakashihatake4698 3 года назад
@@soseikiharagatatsu7859 r/woosh ?
@khvwave5579
@khvwave5579 3 года назад
Xforts too
@nyan5399
@nyan5399 3 года назад
@@soseikiharagatatsu7859 that meme is dead and also irrelevant here
@visencere
@visencere 3 года назад
I think string theory is more of a Jojolion concept
@sebastianwillows
@sebastianwillows 3 года назад
It's always a joy to receive a Hamon Beat notification
@noriakikakyoin6091
@noriakikakyoin6091 3 года назад
Preach my dude
@Youssef_Diaa
@Youssef_Diaa 3 года назад
Yes, its is indeed
@megaloodon6240
@megaloodon6240 3 года назад
Not at 2 am literally seconds after deciding to sleep
@You-topia
@You-topia 3 года назад
Bro swiping down and seeing that signature black background always got me going
@Elfo_Scuro
@Elfo_Scuro 3 года назад
Heaven 2 You!
@wrd2sxzb
@wrd2sxzb Год назад
When you think about it, jotaro unintentionally caused made in heaven because he read the diary, if he just burned it without taking a peek even if Pucci pursues him and gets his memory’s he won’t see inside the diary , then all jolyne and the gang need to do is retrieve jotaros disc’s or pucci will just do something with them because they would be useless.
@genghiskhan5701
@genghiskhan5701 Год назад
Alternate Timeline Jotaro: Eh I'll read DIO's diary. Wait I can't read English, better burn it
@devcron7041
@devcron7041 Год назад
Eh jotaro probably would never be able to predict that he’d literally have his memories stolen
@wrd2sxzb
@wrd2sxzb Год назад
@@devcron7041 that's not the point though
@smikkelbeer7890
@smikkelbeer7890 Год назад
He might not have burned it if he didn't know what was inside
@wrd2sxzb
@wrd2sxzb Год назад
@@smikkelbeer7890 true but even if he looked at it pucci knows English
@WaXX69420
@WaXX69420 2 года назад
Funnily enough, Araki was 100% correct: Gravity and Time DO have a very intimate relationship. There's scientific documentaries on the subject. It blows my mind just how intelligent Araki is and creative to add the concept of fate into it for a story.
@ZeroDividedByZero
@ZeroDividedByZero 2 года назад
C-Moon: Gravity manipulating Stand *evolves to* Made in Heaven: Time manipulating Stand
@marcelo.pastorelli
@marcelo.pastorelli 2 года назад
the space-time concept actually is something quite easy to grasp on... Araki of course was 'correct' because that correlation was one of Einstein's most famous theories and it was a widely known fact long before he started working on Stone Ocean. what's actually impressive is his creative genious to grab this scientific concept and apply it to his manga
@HijoDeDios999
@HijoDeDios999 2 года назад
Dude this has been known by mankind for more than a century now 💀💀💀
@neoniintention4536
@neoniintention4536 2 года назад
@@HijoDeDios999 Doesn't stop other authors to forget about these.
@datboy038
@datboy038 2 года назад
@@marcelo.pastorelli yes but keep in mind that during the making of part 6 the internet was pretty much in it’s infant stage so the man had to SPECIFICALLY look and reach out for this knowledge. That amount of effort just for his manga is admirable
@Lunaaaarrr599
@Lunaaaarrr599 3 года назад
Giorno: *finally becomes mafia boss* Puuci: *haha ctrl+alt+delete*
@AnUncreativeGuy
@AnUncreativeGuy 3 года назад
*:
@darx438
@darx438 3 года назад
@runk mn man do you even know what a keybind is?
@vojtamm69
@vojtamm69 3 года назад
More like CTRL + A, DEL
@havoc6250
@havoc6250 3 года назад
@@vojtamm69 wouldn't it just be a factory reset?
@Jayy23123
@Jayy23123 3 года назад
@The Gyra 土卜口日 it means delete sped
@svg_ch
@svg_ch 3 года назад
Can't believe JoJo's original Universe ended 17 years ago and only now we are starting to feel the end get closer and closer... Reading the manga is one thing but seeing it animated it's gonna be brutal man
@waffles5433
@waffles5433 2 года назад
There is hope still with the new Josuke and Hol Horse spin-off
@justafox0
@justafox0 2 года назад
@@waffles5433 Hope for what? More JoJo? We also have Part 9 for that.
@coke_man69
@coke_man69 2 года назад
eh im just sad that the original jotaro is gone
@travelsizedarchie
@travelsizedarchie 2 года назад
@@coke_man69 :(
@christopherhenne4089
@christopherhenne4089 2 года назад
@@coke_man69 dont be sad trust me the new jojo counterparts from part 7 and 8 are more then worthy of taking his Position
@sergeantsucker6252
@sergeantsucker6252 2 года назад
Araki is truly a genius. I could never in a million years write something like this
@concept5631
@concept5631 Год назад
Not with that attitude.
@michaelq4965
@michaelq4965 Год назад
Nah, this video is just a lot of ***pulls and rewriting. Case in point: Dio wanted a stand close to Jotaro... Jotaro didn't live in Morioh, Jotaro didn't have a stand, Dio quite literally never even met Joseph, saxophone, or Jotaro. Jotaro developed his stand and beat Dio within 1 month of becoming plot relevant.
@Casuallywatching29
@Casuallywatching29 Год назад
@@michaelq4965 what
@michaelq4965
@michaelq4965 Год назад
@@Casuallywatching29 The video says Dio chose Japan to test stand users to be close to Jotaro. This is before Jotaro even had a stand, it makes 0 sense and is just bs.
@alexfc679
@alexfc679 Год назад
@@michaelq4965 ????
@professionaljolynesimp1517
@professionaljolynesimp1517 2 года назад
Coming from a person who isn't too fond of talking about the negative aspects of the future, the concept of heaven in jojo's absolutely terrifies me. Like I'm just drawing one moment and then the shit in made in heaven happens and I'm back drawing just fine, but I know if I'm going to be accepted in my dream school and get my dream job, while also knowing which one of my parents dies first and how. . . damn that's horrifying
@samsunguser3148
@samsunguser3148 2 года назад
Just be comforted that any time we can be annihilated but it doesn't happen
@xxdomoxxkunxx
@xxdomoxxkunxx 2 года назад
The whole point is that you know about it. It's already going to happen regardless or not you know it In the game Eyes of Heaven, it is a what if DIO didn't die in part 3, completed the process of achieving Heaven. From there he(and Pucci, with many of his other followers) go into other worlds. From there he changes fate to fit him and eventually becomes a god, or more specifically, master of Fate
@zarakix
@zarakix 2 года назад
@@xxdomoxxkunxx Ironically we have a movie that show the Heaven Plan completed: Arrival (2016), the protagonist reach heaven and she is chill about.
@juanlloveras5780
@juanlloveras5780 Год назад
Only if you let it be. As Pucci said, if you accept your fate, you will attain Heaven.
@DamnCyrus
@DamnCyrus 3 года назад
A lot of people who hate on Stone Ocean don't understand this and it sucks. They're probably the vocal minority, but nonetheless we can all appreciate the ending this universe received.
@gyroandhisballs
@gyroandhisballs 3 года назад
I'm actually one of those people who dislikes part 6 (even after this video, though it gave me a new respect for the ending and made me hate it a little less). My 3 biggest issues have always been the (seemingly) large amount of plot holes part 6 has, more so than other parts, the fact the Emporio was the one to survive (and the way Jotaro was treated in the ending/his relationship with Jolyne), and the entire plot/backstory of heavy weather. I'd love to hear why you (and others) like part 6 so much. It isn't bad overall, but is imo absolutely, without a doubt, the worst part of Jojo's, and imo even part 1 was better.
@sealnibba7723
@sealnibba7723 3 года назад
@@gyroandhisballs Which plot holes in particular?
@violetvillas1607
@violetvillas1607 3 года назад
@@gyroandhisballs I love Part 6 so much for tons of reasons, but I'll tell you the biggest. 1. I love the characters in Stone Ocean. Jolyne is my favorite JoJo, I love how strong-willed and determined she is to save her father and her friends, and it's insane to see the limits she pushes herself to to get her goals. To me, out of al of the OG Universe Jojo's Jolyne suffered the most, and yet she never lost her will to keep going. I also found Hermes, Anasui, and Weather Report pretty fun as well. 2. I also love part 6 because of Jotaro. We get to see him at his weakest, essentially, and I love that. He's already my favorite Jojo (my number two now after Jolyne), and it was a shock to see that his tough and stoic demanor was pretty much gone in Part 6. Seeing how much he loved Jolyne, and all the times he tried to save her really resonated with me. You could feel how scared he was to lose her, which made the ending all the more tragic. He even made the MOST expressive face to date in the series when he saw that Pucci threw knives at her. 3. The fights in part 6 were INSANE. My favorites were Jailhouse Lock, C-Moon, Green Baby, Underworld and MIH. Jolyne and her friends legit never back down, and I love seeing how determined they are. 4. Lastly, part 6 is my favorite because of the ending. It's sad, and literally made me sad for about a week after I read it. But it's also the best possible ending for the Jojo's, and I got the vibe that they all finally managed to overcome their family curse of fighting against evil and truly got to live normal lives. I've seen a lot of people hate the fact that everyone "died" in the end, but I actually think that's what makes it special. TBH, EVERYONE dies, and every good thing has to come to an end. It's very bittersweet.
@josukehigashikata-jojolion8236
@josukehigashikata-jojolion8236 3 года назад
I understood stone ocean and re read it but it just never clicked for me.
@zeinner237
@zeinner237 3 года назад
isaiah.exe what is to hate about how jotaro was treated ? His last entire relationship with jolyne made absolute sense he had to leave his family because he didn’t want them to be in danger he always cared for them thats why he wasn’t present, at the end of the part we see that jotaro really cared about his daughter and preferred saving her than having a better chance to kill pucci showing us how much he cares about her, then after pucci died and the universe reset without him jolyne and jotaro have a healthy relationship whats to hate
@STM1993
@STM1993 3 года назад
So in a way, you could say Dio's Heaven plan was to give everyone Epitaph, but for the rest of their lives instead of just 10s.
@Tortferngatr
@Tortferngatr 2 года назад
And no King Crimson to alter it, either.
@bluecow7883
@bluecow7883 2 года назад
Then, you see these weird "people", in the shape of characters of a comic book, except this time, they're third dimensional. Out of curiosity, you approach them. All of a sudden, they start singing *_OINGO BOINGO BROTHAAAZZZ_*
@datboy038
@datboy038 2 года назад
You could think of it that way. With the difference that Pucci could truly alter fate.
@demon_hawkeye5269
@demon_hawkeye5269 Год назад
Honestly this is a contender for my favorite villain plan in the series, its so complex, interesting and pays off on the themes of the series as a whole up until that point, I may not rank part 6 all that high but this is the standout aspect of it
@infinitemagnesium
@infinitemagnesium Год назад
And this all happened because Dio kicked a dog, that dog held the whole universe together
@mollygallagher7046
@mollygallagher7046 3 года назад
Honestly C-Moon is such an underrated stand
@HANIMEME
@HANIMEME 3 года назад
its so cool
@diskdrive6113
@diskdrive6113 3 года назад
It just wasn’t around too long
@fartchannelremoved8305
@fartchannelremoved8305 3 года назад
It just would have needed to have a little bit longer time
@alexandergooch3230
@alexandergooch3230 3 года назад
Just think of how good the C Moon fight will be in the anime
@blehhh511
@blehhh511 3 года назад
It's well known and really liked, i don't really understand why you used the word underrated
@hgoggs2704
@hgoggs2704 3 года назад
no wonder speed readers don’t like part 6’s ending lmao.
@verynaisu
@verynaisu 3 года назад
I kinda sped read some bits of it, but I fucking loved the ending and understood what Pucci was doing
@thetrueultimatesoldier2379
@thetrueultimatesoldier2379 3 года назад
@@verynaisu same i speed up a bit and already loved the ending and characters in the story.
@crypticchrome7488
@crypticchrome7488 3 года назад
It’s difficult not to read the entire series in one sitting when its as great as it is
@tyrantrex-cf3jy
@tyrantrex-cf3jy 3 года назад
Im a speed reader yet part 6 got so many tears in my eyesocket. Honestly i think the current part 6 ending is the best. Everything manage to come to an end and everybody live like how their normal lives are. Some fanmade giorno ending is kinda cool, but it would have cause some cringy family dynamic isnt it....?
@cornbreadloverrr
@cornbreadloverrr 3 года назад
I read fast (is that what speed readers means?) and i understood fully that he created a new universe but i didn't understand the whole fate and heaven concept. the main reason I didn't like the ending is because I thought it would be one of those mindfucks where the events repeat over and over again and that made me feel bad for the protagonists
@Carphil07
@Carphil07 Год назад
Just finished the anime and came here to understand, a beautiful ending in a way, but undeniably melancholic, i can see why people would dislike it, its not too far off from "it was all a dream" esque endings, although far superior in writing of course
@pigifi
@pigifi Год назад
In gamer terms, Pucci's plan is to give everyone NG+ so that they can avoid the bad ends.
@pigifi
@pigifi Год назад
@@jankeeuwu So it is more like a full guide on how your life will go?
@MetalGamely
@MetalGamely Год назад
@@pigifi Yes
@strayy1554
@strayy1554 Год назад
It was to see a walkthrough at 10x speed and skip to ng+
@dumbtweacz2150
@dumbtweacz2150 Год назад
I see what you did there but this analogy doesn’t quite fit well with the current situation
@odgarig8601
@odgarig8601 Год назад
But you can't avoid it. Emporio was right, Pucci's idea of heaven is despair cloaked in acceptance.
@aidenshumaker4069
@aidenshumaker4069 3 года назад
Everybody be grooving until Hamon Beat puts down 100 people
@robind506
@robind506 3 года назад
AngryHamon scarier than even infinite deaths
@kimanh-ls4kl
@kimanh-ls4kl 3 года назад
Can't wait until the anime gets released and people realize how much this part slaps
@Nitrous0x
@Nitrous0x 3 года назад
Damn, dude. You're next level at explaining things so clearly. I understood some of the concepts behind attaining Heaven, but never fully understood the idea behind the words that needed to be inscribed into one's soul using the Green Baby. The idea of Heaven is almost never talked about within the Jojo community probably because the casual Jojo reader doesn't dig as deeply as you do.
@HANIMEME
@HANIMEME 3 года назад
i would reccomend kaleb ia's 2 videos on heaven where he explains the meaning behind the special words
@josephtrevino4304
@josephtrevino4304 2 года назад
Made in Heaven is actually a really good evolution of King Crimson, both being fate-based stands
@benoitchouinard4240
@benoitchouinard4240 2 года назад
Wow... that ending is actually so beautiful
@justsomedude1752
@justsomedude1752 2 года назад
And sad as fuck😢😞
@emperornefarious5273
@emperornefarious5273 2 года назад
@@justsomedude1752 Actually if you didn't understand it, it's sad
@CloverAnimations
@CloverAnimations 2 года назад
it's not sad but emotional.
@mayte761
@mayte761 Год назад
Emotional ending
@sirwaddlesdeethird7186
@sirwaddlesdeethird7186 3 года назад
There are no bad parts there are only underrated part especially the one with gentleman jojo and girl jojo.
@Joanbueller007
@Joanbueller007 3 года назад
This
@ZTOD1806
@ZTOD1806 3 года назад
Is
@linkholder
@linkholder 3 года назад
@@ZTOD1806 the
@ahmadarif1323
@ahmadarif1323 3 года назад
WARUDO , TOKI WA TOMARE...
@frogfish3244
@frogfish3244 3 года назад
Where do I read jojo for free
@cammyT
@cammyT 3 года назад
This is why I think that Stone Ocean has such a good ending. It's a perfect conclusion to have the Joestar bloodline break free from the curse of fighting Dio and the evil he has caused. I wish more people understood this, it's a much happier and satisfying ending than people give credit.
@rg-wormwood
@rg-wormwood 2 года назад
it can be described as bittersweet
@calebwilson4431
@calebwilson4431 2 года назад
fr. people think that the characters stayed dead or that the ireneverse is something completely different
@j.martinez8767
@j.martinez8767 2 года назад
When I finished I was both happy and confused about al the things I heard about it. It's like most people misunderstood it.
@nihadhaddadmecool2508
@nihadhaddadmecool2508 2 года назад
I cried
@p20sm
@p20sm 2 года назад
@@calebwilson4431 Well, they technically are dead, since, none of them remembers anything they went through in the previous universe...
@cazette3945
@cazette3945 2 года назад
My favorite thing about the Heaven Plan is that DIO pulls a Nagito Komaeda and just assumes that the Universe would reset rather than just rip apart or die from Entropy, and he was right simply due to sheer luck.
@somethingelse4282
@somethingelse4282 2 года назад
Yeah basically he believed in chance
@melvin2313
@melvin2313 2 года назад
Stop l literally just realized that dio would be a nagito kinnie and would probably find people without stands inferior
@rockhistoria2537
@rockhistoria2537 2 года назад
Nagito Komaeda and DIO are certainly a pair I wasn't expecting
@stuckonaslide
@stuckonaslide Год назад
heaven is like a fucking cod zombies easter egg
@yourprobablywrong3149
@yourprobablywrong3149 Год назад
TRUE
@demonman905
@demonman905 3 года назад
Hamon Beat is probably the single person I've seen on the internet whose love for JoJo lore has allowed him to attain the Truth of each part, and in turn, share it with the world.
@AthanRoland
@AthanRoland 3 года назад
But does he know the answer in the game of "Who shot Johnny Joestar?"
@hubb8049
@hubb8049 3 года назад
@@AthanRoland yes
@georgeiminlincalvimontes8594
@georgeiminlincalvimontes8594 3 года назад
He manage to reach heaven
@GeorgeCowsert
@GeorgeCowsert 3 года назад
I love how Dio and Pucci intended to be the good guys, giving everyone peace in mind about their futures and all, but they failed to consider the lives of the absolute least fortunate. The people who become homeless drug addicts, the people who are raped and murdered, the people who are ostracized by their communities, the people who are abused, etc. So many people whom fate has dealt a bad hand, and are never given so much as an opportunity to improve. Those people will never view a life where they're fully aware of their fate as "heaven." That's hell to them. Knowing that all your dreams, aspirations, and skills won't ever amount to shit can only be hell. If Pucci won, he would've dragged not just heaven down to earth, but raised hell as well.
@sirmalkolm
@sirmalkolm 3 года назад
More or Less
@Cheese-qk1ft
@Cheese-qk1ft 3 года назад
@@sirmalkolm *KABUTOMUSHI*
@hoodie548
@hoodie548 3 года назад
Thats some real deep stuff right there
@AceAlbatros
@AceAlbatros 3 года назад
So well said brother!
@yemyearmii7231
@yemyearmii7231 2 года назад
Kinda ironic since dio was given that second chance through the joestars.
@mannythemaniac1009
@mannythemaniac1009 Год назад
So this is why we get Deja Vu
@IsaiahBuchanan175
@IsaiahBuchanan175 Год назад
I can finally watch this without worrying about spoilers
@retrotrope
@retrotrope 3 года назад
It all started with some vampire sex and then boom, universe reset
@averonisgaming9023
@averonisgaming9023 3 года назад
Actually it all started with a carriage driver not doing his job correctly which led to the universe resetting
@drakonemperor144
@drakonemperor144 3 года назад
Next up, horse racing with jesus
@acookie1410
@acookie1410 3 года назад
AveronisGaming No, then joesph wouldn’t exist, then the pillar men would conquer the earth.
@ttchme9816
@ttchme9816 3 года назад
@@acookie1410 wdym? JoJo literally starts because a carriage driver crash down a valley and made joestars indebted to brandos.
@acookie1410
@acookie1410 3 года назад
Touch Meたちみ Um just realized, idk what the comment is talking about what started. The joestar bloodline or the whole vampires and shit
@kirbyofthestarsfan
@kirbyofthestarsfan 3 года назад
I'm glad you brought up the Nijimura Father, since there's an interesting observation to be had with his transformation: He turned into a (colored green in the manga/anime) weird monster thanks to DIO's cells and the fleshbud being implanted in him. This led to his cells being corrupted and turning into a smaller, greener and stubbier creature afterwards with the power of regenerating himself. ....Sounds familiar? This description fits the Green Baby somewhat, born out of *DIO's Bone* (or his cells), while the regenerative power could come from the will of DIO for a stand to resurrect his dead body. Perhaps the fleshbuds are another step from the Heaven plan? Since they turned the Nijimura Father into something really similar to the Green Baby, born from DIO's DNA. I don't really have a theory to go along, but it's a neat observation. Great video, by the way!
@martinvasquez4216
@martinvasquez4216 3 года назад
imagine if okuyasu achieved heaven
@Xedlord
@Xedlord 3 года назад
@@martinvasquez4216 Oi Josuke! I fused with my father to achieve Za Hando Over Heaven!
@genosvarmillion8614
@genosvarmillion8614 3 года назад
@@Xedlord Za Hando Over Heaven ability: Able to scrape reality (hahaha I don't even know what scraping reality even means. Someone please come up with a better ideas of what Za Hando Over Heaven ability is 😂)
@snailthelostcow63
@snailthelostcow63 3 года назад
@@genosvarmillion8614 more or less the same as Za Warudo Over Heaven, erasing or creating reality The difference is Okuyasu can imitate Thanos snap
@mrreyes5004
@mrreyes5004 3 года назад
OI JOSUKE I DID SOME STUFF WITH MY DAD'S WEIRD FLESH AND I THINK I CAN NOW INTERACT WITH THE COSMIC PROCESS OF DESTINY ITSELF OH SHIT I SEE THE MOMENT WHEN WE ALL DIE AND NOW I'M SEEING ALL THE HORRIBLE THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN TO MR. JOTARO AND HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY AIN'T THAT NEATO? Pucci and Diavolo thousands of miles away: *_I feel a disturbance in the Force._*
@mangazo15
@mangazo15 Год назад
Damn! This is by far one of the best written pieces of fiction I have read.
@LordBru4
@LordBru4 2 года назад
Huh, isn’t it curious how a cart accident in which an English woman died leads to the reset of the universe over forces we can’t understand? Interesting
@-MaruliHutajulu
@-MaruliHutajulu 3 года назад
Dio : a law graduate Also Dio : Study Physics to attain Heaven
@shinigummyl1586
@shinigummyl1586 3 года назад
“Thinking about his mistakes for 100 years.” *wastes most of his timestop durations with talking.*
@dio9389
@dio9389 2 года назад
Add 100 years of sleep
@rudys.artous5477
@rudys.artous5477 2 года назад
I think dio was just playing with jotaro in their fight. He did say that he needs his stand to be destroyed so that he can achieve heaven.
@yuemek
@yuemek 2 года назад
@@rudys.artous5477 wait this actually makes so much sense considering dios stand got obliterated at the end
@lillonerboi504
@lillonerboi504 2 года назад
@@yuemek Dio was invoking his inner Aizen. It was all part of his plan.
@collinrenkel2765
@collinrenkel2765 Год назад
While this is almost definitely intended to help people understand the manga, this helped me understand the anime. thanks
@Kriae
@Kriae Год назад
The anime doesn't have the double page that explains everything so it's definitely more helpful to you
@TynPot
@TynPot Год назад
"Fate is Inescapable, anyone who tries to overcome it will ultimately be shot down by it." GER:
@jonmkl
@jonmkl 3 года назад
As much as I love philosophical part 6 DIO, let’s be real, DIO would have never turned off Made in Heaven’s ability, and would have just left himself as a literal god, able to bend fate to his will. That’s a part of DIO’s personality he was hiding from Pucci, as he was so good at doing.
@risky2166
@risky2166 2 года назад
(I know its late, but) So.... Basically Dio Over Heaven is what if he actually succed?
@thecreamylad
@thecreamylad 2 года назад
@@risky2166 that is precisely the plot of the game
@askiia8713
@askiia8713 2 года назад
It's funny how Dio in part 3 was portrayed as such a genocidal maniac but part 6 Dio is a literal philosopher by creating his own concepts and theories. Maybe spending 100 years in a coffin made him do nothing but think, can change a person huh lol
@nezunish-898
@nezunish-898 2 года назад
@@askiia8713 true unlike Kars who eventually stop thinking....
@ismaelxil8709
@ismaelxil8709 2 года назад
@@askiia8713 Idk where you got that geno maniac. Have you not seen the other scenes? Like before dio showed himself to jotaro?
@shocksword6847
@shocksword6847 3 года назад
DIO in Stone Ocean: I shall give everyone in the world a peace of mind, for I have suffered since childhood and understand that fate is unchangeable. Understanding gravity and time is crucial as the world must be recreated from the singularity in order for people to already know their fate. If the Joestars get in my path to heaven, I shall eliminate them. DIO in Eyes of Heaven: lmao my punches overwrite reality
@vergil4220
@vergil4220 3 года назад
Not fucking canon
@Tombee2
@Tombee2 3 года назад
In guessing if DIO somehow overcame fate?
@briang.2218
@briang.2218 3 года назад
Yeah I think they could've done The World Over Heaven in a way more interesting way.
@azurpixel
@azurpixel 3 года назад
I'm guessing DIO Overheaven's plan is to give every universe. "Heaven" mentioned in the video. since his stand evolved to rewrite reality. and he could have used that power to rewrite his/other universes to that state of "Heaven" he discovered there more Universes thanks to Funny Valentine. and discovered the Corpse Parts in the SBR Universe. and planned to use the Corpse Part to aid on Rewriting the Multiverse or Omniverse...depends how big the Universes of Jojo are
@ttchme9816
@ttchme9816 3 года назад
@@azurpixel except he appears to have been drunk in power unlike the dio in stone ocean. The dio in stone ocean almost appear to be a different person entirely, he respects pucci and also have a noble goal unlike in eyes of heaven where his main goal is to dominate humans.
@babysinclairfan
@babysinclairfan 2 года назад
There's a beautiful irony to the whole heaven plan. After years of selfishness, Dio found himself unfulfilled and came up with this convoluted scheme to get what he wanted. In reality, Dio probably would've felt better if he just did something to help someone other than himself.
@boergerplays8353
@boergerplays8353 Год назад
Can we get a au where he just gives up lol
@hitlerjusthitlerliterallyh2700
@hitlerjusthitlerliterallyh2700 3 года назад
Imagine having to make an 18+ minute video explaining one of the main plot points of a story because people refuse to actually read said story.
@utfkygkuyh4386
@utfkygkuyh4386 3 года назад
And they call themselves " fan"
@Xenunnaki
@Xenunnaki 3 года назад
Imagine similar videos breaking down the core plot points of the other parts, like why Giorno wants to be a mob boss, or why having a serial killer in your city is bad.
@frodo34x
@frodo34x 3 года назад
@@Xenunnaki A video for part 7 that explains what a "horse" is would make a good April fools bit
@combineconformist
@combineconformist 3 года назад
or maybe because some people just don’t want to read books or they’re confused? It seems pretty obvious
@combineconformist
@combineconformist 3 года назад
also no one else complained except you (I know this is 5 months late but the idiocy still remains in your comment)
@theprofburg
@theprofburg 3 года назад
I want to thank you for actually explaining the Heaven plan a lot better and because of that it makes me like Part 6 more. Like many Jojo fans I sawPart 6 as Araki just killing off the old universe so he could move on to Steel Ball Run, but in reality, there is a lot more to it then I thought and showed that Part 6 was the perfect ending for the Original Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
@richardlionerheart1945
@richardlionerheart1945 3 года назад
Part 7 is unrelated to part 6
@theprofburg
@theprofburg 3 года назад
Richard V Lionerheart that’s not the point of what I was saying
@tnt5843
@tnt5843 2 года назад
Technically, diavolo was also able to change fate with king krimson, if only for a short ammount of time. Also, using epitaph, he was able to know his fate. Does that mean diavolo (kind of) achieved heaven?
@yakobi8434
@yakobi8434 2 года назад
No. King Crimson gave a him a false sense of heaven. Diavolo knows the future, but he never comes to terms with it. He manipulates it. Which is the distinction..As long as you think you are in control Fate, Fate is in control of you.
@mvshenhon8966
@mvshenhon8966 2 года назад
@@yakobi8434 fate is fucking trippy
@yakobi8434
@yakobi8434 2 года назад
@@mvshenhon8966 I thought this meant fate/stay night for a second because I forgot I commented this but both are trippy tbh
@datboy038
@datboy038 2 года назад
No the changing of fate was part of fate
@sleepydoggo4341
@sleepydoggo4341 2 года назад
@@datboy038 my god, so Giorno drinking that piss tea was also fated. Incredible
@kinko143
@kinko143 2 года назад
That's why Part 6 is my favorite, it closes beautifully and ushers a vastly different part that will have different tones and ideologies but still feel JoJo.
@jazgeorge6806
@jazgeorge6806 3 года назад
i dunno how i’m gonna deal with jotaro’s death when it’s animated
@pkmasterball4093
@pkmasterball4093 3 года назад
part 6 will break the internet, you can tell how much hype and memes there will be
@42LMS
@42LMS 3 года назад
Fuck I won't be able to like part 6 anymore without people assuming im just jumping on the bandwagon edit: Robert E.O. Bandwagon
@moderncrusader1150
@moderncrusader1150 3 года назад
If anyone is reading my comment in two years in the future then I want to say that I hated Part 6 before it was cool to hate Part 6
@42LMS
@42LMS 3 года назад
@@moderncrusader1150It's already cool to hate on part 6 (i'm not cool)
@alpharedhed4446
@alpharedhed4446 3 года назад
@@42LMS I'll just put this out here as proof before it comes out, part 6 is my favourite manga part and probably will be my new favourite anime part when it comes out (right now it's part 5)
@thenoobsdiary9958
@thenoobsdiary9958 3 года назад
Lol part 6 confirmed
@Zaante
@Zaante Год назад
This is so cool. JoJo has always pretty bizarre (get it?) and difficult to understand, but this is the best summary to describe one of the most (seemingly) random sequence of events in the entirety of the series with perfect logic regarding our knowledge of the world and how it's driving forces operate. This is one of the best videos of definitely the best channel that dedicates time to JoJo. Thank you.
@OriganalSEX
@OriganalSEX Год назад
this is like the last episode of jojo season 6, right after you watch the final episode and finish crying, you go and watch this to get what tf was going on
@BasedMexx
@BasedMexx 3 года назад
What a fantastic video. People are often confused by Stone Ocean's ending and the Heaven Plan. The Heaven Plan can be a bit high-concept, so I understand why people can be confused. Hopefully, this does reach those confused people and betters their understanding
@Morlun91
@Morlun91 3 года назад
The only unclear part to me was the second reboot after Pucci death. That was left implied and not explained in detail, it's also unexpected so I think it's understandable to be confused. Especially when you start part 7 (without reading theories online) and wonder if it's the same universe.
@descal
@descal 3 года назад
honestly when i read part 6 for the first time, i found Made in Heaven to be way more confusing than King Crimson
@Vitz_atelier
@Vitz_atelier 3 года назад
This video shows the beauty of Part 6's plot. I already understood most of the concepts shown in this video before watching it, but I wouldn't be able to make a video such as this explaining it. Thanks for the great work, man.
@tfGalvatron1
@tfGalvatron1 2 года назад
This video really gives me a new appreciation for the story of this part, and JoJo as a whole
@shouryajadhav6940
@shouryajadhav6940 2 года назад
Nice tutorial Exactly what I needed
@lambda760
@lambda760 2 года назад
Uh oh
@meso985
@meso985 3 года назад
"Humanity's only desire is to attain peace of mind. Wealth, power, relationships, all towards that single goal." - DIO
@alexm7627
@alexm7627 Год назад
Mankind seeks for what only God can give, but they seek it in anywhere except in God
@mimikyu4640
@mimikyu4640 3 года назад
Man this is gonna hurt like a bitch all over again once it gets animated
@ripzmad9846
@ripzmad9846 3 года назад
"my name is emporio"
@hugo8989
@hugo8989 3 года назад
😭
@obamium3576
@obamium3576 2 года назад
._.
@thecatinthehatwithabat9903
@thecatinthehatwithabat9903 Год назад
All over again? Hmm sounds familiar
@HayatoStarGod
@HayatoStarGod Год назад
Yeah...
@tahazed
@tahazed 2 года назад
thanks to explain the unclear things in jojo ... it was a great anime for me and after your videos i really believe that jojo is something different from the other anime ... i loved the day i discovered jojo and the day i discovered your channel
@Vegito_
@Vegito_ Год назад
I can finally watch this 😭
@scennougdh
@scennougdh 3 года назад
Pucci: wants to a achieve heaven Part 6 Readers : alright that sounds simple eno- Pucci: RESET THE UNIVERSE
@francescolombardi3438
@francescolombardi3438 3 года назад
R E S E T T H E C L O C K
@alejandrodoce527
@alejandrodoce527 3 года назад
@@francescolombardi3438 Whitesnake: and grab the *G L O C K*
@sirmalkolm
@sirmalkolm 3 года назад
Can confirm, these were my thoughts
@akhen0950
@akhen0950 3 года назад
part 7 Cripple: i want to walk Gyro: INFNITE SPIN
@omniscientcammaleon9477
@omniscientcammaleon9477 3 года назад
How, how do people forget things that are written in the manga, its indeed mentioned so how is it forgotten. Maybe its because when people remember jojo parts the think of the memes.
@Nitrous0x
@Nitrous0x 3 года назад
Speed readers who make quick assumptions instead of digesting what they just read.
@Crow_Rising
@Crow_Rising 3 года назад
A lot of people speed read through Stone Ocean to get to Steel Ball Run because they hear it's really good from their friends. Fortunately I read through with no knowledge of what came next when I started getting into Jojo, so I avoided that mindset. Some others didn't even read it properly at all, and base all of their understanding on summaries made by others and screenshot images of individual pages and panels online. These are the people who make the most idiotic statements of all, because they say things that are easily debunked by even so much as a single page explaining how something works or how it happened.
@GalekC
@GalekC 3 года назад
Worst of all, the speed readers nowadays have the colored scans that they think back to which skimps on much of Araki's character-detailing + using the same beige, gray & brown background colors throughout the Part. So they jump to say the art sucks too, as if all this nitpicking wasn't enough
@Bodwaizer
@Bodwaizer 3 года назад
@@Nitrous0x tell that to that weird fuck on a boat, I really though that some manga pages are missing.
@somejabroni51
@somejabroni51 3 года назад
I speed read and loved it lmao you guys goofy. JoJo’s great just have fun. *buuuut* I do have to say that stone ocean probably had my least favorite art outside of the first two parts. anyway the anime did Giorno dirty bye bye
@eddnox
@eddnox 2 года назад
When you were talking about fate and the scene of King Crimson time skips played, something clicked in my mind, it suddenly all made sense.
@junedabat
@junedabat Год назад
It's thanks to videos like this that we truly realize how much of a genius Araki is
@neveseos5423
@neveseos5423 3 года назад
Ok, but why didn't Jotaro used star finger to search for the Rokakaka branch?
@neveseos5423
@neveseos5423 3 года назад
I immediately regret making that stupid joke
@DapperFella
@DapperFella 3 года назад
Idk, ask the guy who shot Johnny
@shrekkek9396
@shrekkek9396 3 года назад
@@DapperFella Johnny was shot with star-finger by Jotaro
@lucariodrogon7813
@lucariodrogon7813 3 года назад
@Vishnu PBA well jotoro does not exist
@pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt
@pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt 3 года назад
@@lucariodrogon7813 Why didn't Jotaro use star finger to will himself into existence
@pimpmasterjake7435
@pimpmasterjake7435 3 года назад
Before watching your channel I thought JoJo was awesome. After watching your videos and rereading parts 1-6, I've realized it's actually brilliant. One of the greatest pieces of art and fiction ever created.
@pimpmasterjake7435
@pimpmasterjake7435 3 года назад
It goes without saying that parts 7-8 are also fantastic.
@divineshinobi1791
@divineshinobi1791 3 года назад
@@pimpmasterjake7435 Of course
@KbIPbIL0
@KbIPbIL0 Год назад
now when i have watched the part 6 season and then watched your video and inscribed the explanation onto my being, i can finally reach heaven
@t-wave3161
@t-wave3161 2 года назад
You know, the memes around jojo are funny but i wished more people would take jojo more seriously
@cornjeebus
@cornjeebus 2 года назад
The fan-base gets a little rowdy but it's such a great saga
@somniloguy12
@somniloguy12 3 года назад
I think this video really demonstrates the importance of your `debunking Araki forgot´ series, because the meme that Araki is a sloppy writer who has no throughline for his stories is very much a myth. This video shows that there are thematic throughlines that are consistently build upon throughout the series that are often missed because of these myths.
@liquidalumina7141
@liquidalumina7141 3 года назад
Fate was the theme of the series from the very beginning
@somniloguy12
@somniloguy12 3 года назад
@@liquidalumina7141 Yeah exactly
@angryfishy8183
@angryfishy8183 3 года назад
im pretty sure Araki forgot was a meme
@somniloguy12
@somniloguy12 3 года назад
@@angryfishy8183 meaning? Because people occasionally use this meme as a legit explanation for apparant plotholes
@tranidite
@tranidite 2 года назад
@@somniloguy12 I think Hamon Beat is too forgiving towards Araki at times, because in his video"actual Araki forgot moments" are at the very best minor plot holes. Like poleref having a full hand in part 6, in some panels, instead of having a few fingers missing. Jojo is a good story, there's def alot more issues than the minor stuff like character design details in a story. I'd talk about them here but I'd haven't finished the series of him debunking it yet before I say anything about that.
@klackey821
@klackey821 3 года назад
Just imagine dio writing in sharpie on the world "RHINOCEROS BEETLE RHINOCEROS BEETLE RHINOCEROS BEETLE" over and over again
@Dreamfillah
@Dreamfillah 2 года назад
KABUTOMUSHI
@NoOne-qi4tb
@NoOne-qi4tb 2 года назад
How did he even find out he needed to write that
@r4inbowsugar
@r4inbowsugar 2 года назад
the first time i read this i thought he has mental illness
@creativebobbie
@creativebobbie Год назад
After finishing Stone Ocean anime, this was VERY helpful. Thank you!
@blackball2223
@blackball2223 2 года назад
Stone Ocean is my favorite part of the entire series, which it really disappoints me when people say it's bad when they were not paying attention at all. I like this video a lot because it shows that there are at least others that know what happens in Part 6.
@analisamelculo85
@analisamelculo85 2 года назад
I think that could be because Stone Ocean was too much for their little brains that just wanted to see muscular men punching each other. But I'm almost sure that the popular opinion on Stone Ocean will change once the anime gets completely released
@grimkaizer8417
@grimkaizer8417 Год назад
I understood it fine, I just think it kinda sucks
@harryvpn1462
@harryvpn1462 Год назад
Really good fights and stakes up until the ending that is shit
@neerajnandan3519
@neerajnandan3519 3 месяца назад
@@harryvpn1462I think the ending is fine, because resetting the universe ends the Jojo story as they don’t have an opponent anymore to fight. Though they are not exactly the same people they still have the same spirit and potential so it’s a bittersweet ending. I mean if you want Pucci to reset the universe and a satisfying ending, this is probably the best balance you can get.
@Mr_December
@Mr_December 3 года назад
I'm glad the Joestars can finally have peaceful lives without threat. This is truly a great ending because everyone is happy now
@cromestone1684
@cromestone1684 3 года назад
I feel bad for emporio tho he doesn't have anyone to share his pain with
@ihatealmosteverythingequal820
@ihatealmosteverythingequal820 3 года назад
@@cromestone1684 Find alternate pucci and ask him to remove hes memories
@cromestone1684
@cromestone1684 3 года назад
@@ihatealmosteverythingequal820 its a possibility that pucci doesn't even exist in this alternate universe and even if they found pucci he would just start doing it again right?
@awakeneddio6012
@awakeneddio6012 3 года назад
I, Dio, reached Heavan in this video.
@cromestone1684
@cromestone1684 3 года назад
@@awakeneddio6012 ah yes heavan
@rashid8646
@rashid8646 3 года назад
I wonder if all along what Dio wanted was to be in Pucci's shoes at the end - creating a universe in which he was the only one free of fate's shackles while everyone else is made to accept theirs. Would make sense for a manipulative character like him.
@mrreyes5004
@mrreyes5004 3 года назад
Holy cow, I never thought about that. I always thought it was kind of weird that Dio was apparently willing and wanting to lower himself to the state of everyone else - that is, experiencing life with fore-knowledge of all that will happen to it with no ability to change it - considering how much we've seen him love to order everyone else around beneath him. Hamon Beat's theory that Dio's chaotic youth may be a motivation for this, but it's also been a consistent theme that Dio's always wanted to rise _above_ the human race that put him through this chaotic life to begin with; not to experience life with everyone, but to rule and stand above them (he literally even says after he thought he killed Jotaro that he's rule the entire world). It might make sense for Pucci, who was more of a follower than an actual leader himself, to want this equal living treatment... but not the tyrannical, narcissistic Dio Brando. Reading this, it makes far more sense that Dio actually wanted to be the only one free of Fate's chains while being able to force literally everyone else to live under Fate's (AKA his own) shackles. This even fits in with his "heaven" philosophy about peace of mind; what better way for an arrogant tyrant to achieve eternal peace of mind than being the only one in the universe to possess literal absolute authority over the cosmic forces of Fate itself while everyone else remains in its (and therefore, his own) eternal thrall?
@rRhyan
@rRhyan 2 года назад
This is the most bat shit crazy plan and plot I have ever heard
@ihatealmosteverythingequal820
@ihatealmosteverythingequal820 2 года назад
no shit is jojos
@mercuryGMMF45P
@mercuryGMMF45P Год назад
I always wonder how DIO would “lose his stand temporarily” in his original plan. It seems in the original plan, *he* would be the master of Made in Heaven instead of Pucci. And Obviously DIO would not plan to die for the creation of a heaven where he is already gone (although Heaven was still achieved after his death)
@jameskimble6453
@jameskimble6453 9 месяцев назад
In the game "eyes of Heaven", Dio completes the heaven plan although I'm not certain if it explains how
@virael3801
@virael3801 3 года назад
I wish Pucci completed the universe reset so I would've known my destiny of eventually joining the JoJo fandom and I would've come to terms with its toxicity and lack of intelligence.
@eli-boy7473
@eli-boy7473 3 года назад
never before have i been offended by something i 100% agree on
@dailydoseofoofs5721
@dailydoseofoofs5721 3 года назад
@@eli-boy7473 Holy shit you stole my line..I guess it was fate
@eli-boy7473
@eli-boy7473 3 года назад
@@dailydoseofoofs5721 You thought you would have the first comment, BUT IT WAS ME, D- oops, sorry, force of habit
@valko970
@valko970 3 года назад
You just did. Which means pucci succeeded
@ryu246
@ryu246 3 года назад
*oof-* 😳
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