Joker 2 is TERRIBLE 

I still can't belive that we went from a billion to the worst movie of the year

The first one was so successful they tried to force a sequel . They tried to make what was already great better but broke it instead

Tou know what Joker & Captain Marvel have in common? - Their first movies came out in 2019 & made a Billion dollars in the box office. - Their sequels were awful.

Madame web and Borderlands : looks like we have competition

We need a Two-face movie that's better than this one.

Arthur getting graped is the worst thing about the movie NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THEIR FAVOURITE COMIC BOOK CHARACTER GETTING GRAPED IN PRISON

Willem Dafoe gave Todd Phillips a better Joker pitch than what we actually received; his pitch was having someone be inspired by Arthur's Joker, but this Joker would be slightly different. It's like having two different Jokers in the same film, like simplifying Geoff Johns' Batman The Three Jokers with Arhtur's Joker being the criminal and the other being the comedian. But at the end of the film, Arthur is the clown because the inmate calls him a "disappointment" as Arthur lays dying realizing that his life was nothing but a bad joke. Ironically, Todd Phillips took Willem Dafoe's pitch but made it completely suck.

Joker 2 is the proof that some movies dont need a sequel

Between Madame Web, Borderlands and Joker Folie a Deux, the 2024 Razzies are going to be a spectacle over who's going to be crowned the worst film of 2024.

Arthur Fleck in Joker - Can you introduce me as Joker? Aurthur Fleck in Joker Folie a Deux - I'm not the "Joker" I'm just Arthur Fleck. I swear, it's like Todd Philips wanted to punish the audience for liking the first film. James Gunn said on Threads that Joker Folie a Deux isn't a part of DC Studios and I'm very glad for that because now James Gunn knows that Todd Phillips can't cook.

At the last scene, everyone abandoned Arthur because joker doesn’t exist, it’s all Arthur himself. Outside the movie, everyone were excepting joker, when we realise it’s just Arthur, we abandoned him like people in the movie, no one actually cares about Arthur, its deep and sad.

very strange how they make movies to spite the fan base, almost like they have another completely independent stream of income telling them to do just that

The rise and fall of DCEU/WB 🤡🤡🤡 vs the rise, fall and rerise of MCU/Disney+ 🗿🗿🗿

I dont know why so many people get this wrong. Its NOT a super hero movie.

I just recently saw what Tod Phillips said about the new movie. He was never meant to be the actual joker from Batman. He was just a crazy dude who resembled that type of joker but that’s not the actual character.

You know what might have worked? The little-known Pennies From Heaven. Similar in concept but the musical numbers meant something. The plot is really dark but contrasted with bright 1930's songs.

So they basically went the "alternate universe" route One where fleck chooses to walk away from being the joker and he also dies Pretty weird direction to go

I didn’t even know the movie release

Joker 2 became the worst movie of the year compared to madame web

Evidence that sometimes, a good movie doesn't need a sequel, because it could only ruins the original sucess.

I walked out it sucked really a musical totally garbage

Glad i read the wiki, the whole writing sounds awful. Todd was definitely trying to piss off fans of the original film. Those fans who helped make it become successful. Joker 1 was definitely a great character study kind of film. It didn't really encourage any kind of violence. It spotlights the dangers of neglected mental illness and how society does little to address it. Joker 2 seems like it's more focused on trying hard to be clever and thematic than saying anything meaningful.

It’s not a good movie, but it’s a deep one

Boring yes, but worse than madam web? Hell no. Acting wise, FAR

Stick it to the fans? How about stick it to my own bank account.

Imagine going from a billion dollar movie where the lead actor won an Oscar, to a box office bomb with the sequel. That's just embarrassing, especially for Joaquin. Why tf did he do this?

Why tf they did a sequel the joker 1 was enough oh wait I forget about money

WB just wasted the jokers potential and his character

I mostly agree with you, but I disagree it's worse than Madam Web.

Didn't they also lose 200 million on "Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League"?

I said this back when Joker originally released and I'll say it again now. Joker was a phenomenal standalone movie and absolutely DID NOT need a sequel. It works on it's own merit, and doesn't need anything else. This is just another instance of a sequel ruining a franchise because the studio saw nothing but $$$.

I like that you praised Lady Gaga despite the movie she's in. She's great.

Even Arkham was shit thought it’d be some spooky asylum not an old people’s home

It really reminds me of the curse of chucky movie but DC version musical. Like oh I'm chucky but I have more chuckys etc horrible movie. Hope they give us the real joker 2

Seriously Warner Bros. SUCK! They just ruin everything for milking a cash cow

This thing had a budget of 200 mil, the only thing that makes sense to me is that the salaries were astronomical for this.

As time passes, Burton's interpretation of Batman looks better on an almost daily basis. These incarnations are just wrong and terrible. Burton would've made a wildly entertaining solo Joker movie -- but I wouldn't want to see this character without Batman in any case. Batman balances it out. There's no sympathy for Joker because he's evil and a liar. It's not that hard to figure out. These subversive movies trying to humanize killers are ridiculous. The only way it could be handled really cool is toying with this notion that he's an unreliable narrator and just going into surreal expressionist vignettes like a Burton movie or something. This joker is just a punk that deserves a beating from Batman.

In the middle of watching the movie in theatre i was done with it - Joker stop singing and start stabbing and shooting like you did in prequel

I dont believe there just,shouldnt have been a sequel. There are plenty ways it shouldve and couldve been done that wouldve complimented the slow paced psycho anylytical commentary of the first. But all they did was deliberately affirm the fears of those who thought there shouldnt be. Because hollywood are the lost qualified to educate the working ticket paying man on morality lol

I think the script could saved if there were less singing. I was expecting Joker to escape and break havoc on the oppressors he had and shots of it like guards get killed etc. and finish it with a proper ending

1 hour gang 👇👇👇💀💀

Wish that it ended with him smiling

This movie should not exist.

Harley being smarter than Joker actually worked very well in the Telltale Batman game. In that, Joker/John Doe is mostly weak and pathetic with occasional outbursts, and Harley is the more dominating gang leader who keeps him wrapped around her finger. So as John starts to evolve into Joker, Harley starts finding herself scared and outmatched by what he's becoming. It's quite good.

“In case you hate yourself” Depressed people :3

Proof that Warner Bros is a worse criminal than Joker

I couldn't wait to see it...😢

Right Era Wrong Movie or Left

Basically destroyed

You know what isnt terrible? Transformers ONE

Really????

I wouldn't see it for free

Gotham Season 5 was Better

Ok

Main point you’re making is that you want to see an original joker instead of seeing a common mentally ill person. But here’s the point a lot of you have been missing about both joker movies: every version of joker makes it their own. Also, this joker is less about trying to rule all of Gotham to his finest, and more about that he’s a broken person and needs help. That’s the tragedy of this joker, that’s the sadness of Arthur’s story is that he has never had a normal life. And hey, I’d like to see a musical joker, because that’s actually apart of the jokers personality, is craziness, out of the ordinary. Sometimes id like to stop seeing the same old thing, with the bombs and car chases, and see something like that instead. It’s less highlighted with the Batman, and I think part of the point with this version, is to teach people about the real struggles that anyone can have, and Arther is one of them. They add a dazzle touch of joker, and more about real world problems into it. I find it fascinating, on top of a musical note. People are gonna hate me for this, but I’m excited to see it!

So....... Where's Batman?

6/10 movie

Its a bad joke

Masses dont like it but it is a good movie if you see it from a cinephile's view.

it was literally good and everyone is hating it because everyone hates it.. NPCs

I LOVED this movie and I genuinely don’t understand the hate. I think it’s on par, or better than the original

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Winner 🏆 in 2024; MARVEL WINS 🥳🏆 AGAIN: DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE DC LOSE 🤡😥 AGAIN: JOKER 2