Jon Meacham: Our Better Angels | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) 

TheNocturnalpheonix - I appreciate your comment, it's beautiful.

I trusted Mr Rodgers with my children . He was an excellent role model

Sounds like Mr. Rogers

Bennett Brauer a gracious gentleman with a beautiful speech.

Good one! Wasn't that a quote (or at least a paraphrase) by Mark Twain? Unfortunately, also true.

I think it's from Winston Churchill.

You know Bernard, I believe that you are correct Sir! Thank You.

I really hope this rings true in 2020. Because we've really exhausted the other option.

So....we're basically fucked right.

We come to miss it, don't we?

try MSNBC , you have to keep up . It`s great ! Sometimes I have to watch 2 times to get it all . Smart people reporting the truth , what a concept

Gail Dedrick I like Bills' tie..it's nice to see color instead of the same old blah

It clashed with all the other colors on the set - especially the other blues.

That's a nice tie. Nice spring tie. From a former model.

Good grief

Grow your hair out Gail. And don't wear that face ever again.

One of the best conversations I’ve heard

Too bad he'd never take the job!

Me too

+Jacob Bielski Obama did it. He spied on private citizens, weaponized the FBI, CIA and IRS. You shouldn't be worried about the mad dog, unless your last name is Clapper, Comey, McCabe or Rosenstein. Here's to more mad dog in 2020. Enjoy!!

Bernie Browntoes Only bitches like mad dogs. Little, whimpering bitches that long to be dominated.

I guess I'm a bitch then. MAGA 2020 BITCHES!!!!

+Jean Rhodes I'll get right on that...COMRADE!!!! Enjoy your fake news.

+omi god Here you go fuckface. Under oath for everyone to see. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vm_UntqAtyI.html

We did taken an active voice in the dnc and were silenced. If you want us to vote you have to give us someone worth voting for. I said it before- as did millions- Bernie or Bust. We mean that sincerely.

I am not voting for someone just because they have a D by their name. No. I will vote for a republican who refuses all corporate money and large donations before ai vote for a democrat who has a super pac. If you want this blue wave, the DNC had better take up Sanders platform or again, we are staying home and watching. If it takes near total destruction to finally get some power for the people, then so be it.

You might not like the way that turns out if the rest register.

Parlez, you do remember that 3 million more votes went to Clinton? Regardless of what the ignoramuses insist that foreigners/non-citizens by the millions got to vote and skewed the popular vote against Trump. The skew is at the district level where gerrymandering has twisted districts to be solidly red or blue that there is no healthy debate over what's good for the country just yelling and shouting in frustration that it's the extremists who set the agenda. Engage the "sensible middle" who don't care about ideology but what's good for America and there you will find your fulcrum, your pivot point. Reshape the districts to look more like counties or clusters of counties and watch American politics become more lively (with ideas not drama), competitive and (weirdly) cooperative. And get the moneyed interests out of politics as they profit from the chaos and dysfunction.

Watch out for gerrymandering too.

I fear we will end up with Pence. He's slicker and not as dumb as Trump and he supports his policies.

Remember "Repeal & replace"? Oopsie. For donnie-baby how 'bout "Impeach & evict"? Chuck the [bleep] out. Pence is a chameleon; we have no reason to believe he has a spine or a soul, least I don't. Mebbe he can be convicted of something?

Kicky - Pence is not batshit crazy like Trump. He is unlikely to tweet us into WWIII. He will be problematic in many other ways, but he’s reasonably normal and we can handle that. Trump is unpredictable, volatile, vengeful, and willfully ignorant. I don’t think we can survive two and a half more years of Trump. He is clinging to a job he hates because he thinks it protects him against indictment. We need to find the right carrot (or cheeseburger) to dangle in front of him to get him to reroute Air Force One, head for a country like Dubai that won’t extradite him, resign, and go play golf for the rest of his life. The man is too dangerous as POTUS.

Eh, while I understand your perspective, I think he'd ultimately comply. I'm not sure if it's all talk to rally his base (it sure is a good tactic for him) or if he's really bent on achieving some American version of a dictatorship, but I suspect he'd just leave if he lost 2020. Maybe a messy departure if the votes are close, but if not, I think he'd just leave. I'm more curious how his base would react tbh. I mean, I don't think there'd be anarchy like some people worry. Sure, likely protests. The size of them? Not as big as some might worry imo. No big deal there. There are the more rabid and/or unhinged followers though... I'm talking Pizzagate-esque people and the white supremacists/alt-right people. The latter is smaller in numbers (still too big). The former is bigger BUT how many of them will go out and protest (or riot) as opposed to tweeting about it? But I'm more curious not about the initial aftermath of a 2020 loss for him, but where his base (and thus the GOP) go in following years. Which way do they swing? Left/right, up/down? I'd guess back toward center (by 'center' I mean basically not moving and remaining as far to the right as they are, just with better optics). BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT TEA PARTY MOVEMENT? Surely there will be a constituency and some in office pushing even further to the authoritarian-right. Will they succeed in any substantial ways like the Tea Party did? I truly have no idea. I heard someone else say it (can't remember who), but: I'm not as worried about Trump as I am about what comes after Trump.

omi god - Agreed. Not crazy. Could he even be slightly mentally ill? I have no idea, but "sure." Regardless, even if he were, he's still clearly mentally 'there' *enough* to know what he's doing. And it's important to point this out. Some need to realize that many do bad things because some people just do bad things. I wouldn't use the word 'evil' personally, but I know what you mean. Plus, most 'crazy' people are fucking far from dangerous to others. And if we were to entertain the idea that Trump is in fact 'crazy', how the hell does Pence not fit into that criteria? I'm assuming it's because he's not as animated as Trump, but I think all of his political values and past actions fit firmly into this definition of 'crazy.'

Ummm.... no. Some people actually went to school and read literature pre-dating modern mass market television.

Dave H. I totally was😂😂. Now we need a kingslayer. Michael avenatti seems to fit the bill! Lol

Dave H. Real life Mad King was Arys second of his name, just kidding, King George III

Dave H. and Bill pointed him out 😂😂😂

No Gandalf - People like you ruin the internet...

SHOULDN'T BE, but actually can. It is very hard to remove a Prez

you cannot indict a sitting president. he is ABOVE THE LAW. GOOD MOVIE BY THE SAINT STEVEN SEAGEL

No , Thomas Mead, Remember Nixon!!!

Excuse me, Thomas Smith✌

Rosamaria Mendoza Nixon resigned. It's very hard to impeach

I agree Bill definitely seems worried .. His Guest is optimistic and funny The country is totally fucked but a very interesting interview

I agree, Jon Meacham's message is "just wait until somebody else fixes this". That is not the message that Bill has been trying to spread and that is why he tries to clarify when Meacham's opinion ends and his starts. Meacham is also trying to sell a book which has a tendency to encourage one's views when trying to appeal to as wide an audience as possible.

Bill is a triggered idiot liberal calling the president "fascist"

I wouldn't consider Bill as a pessimist, but more so a realist.

Trump is the idiot

That requires screwing over corporations and thats where the bribes and advertisement money comes from.

Bernie wasn't a Democrat in 2016 or now. He's an Independent..

He ran under the Democratic party.

He did, but his socialist ideals were too off the cuff for most.

What parts were too "off the cuff"?

Yep, brainwashed idiots.

**claps enthusiastically**

Which is sayin a lot because he used to pause and get mad when they wouldn’t laugh or clap at his jokes.

You do realize not everyone in the audience claps? You guys are all sheep in your own ways.

Nah... he still loves it

His policies have started to take effect and as a result jobs that were previously going to other countries are returning, unemployment is at its lowest in decades and Americans are making more money. Oh, the horror.

Mr. Histor No, Most are tried up in court or agency paperwork. When they start kicking . if they atually survive, you may have to change your mind.

He has worked as a writer, journalist and historian.

Michael Wade I thought that was him at first lol

Aleppo? What's that?

R Navs Really? Wow. Let’s just judge every immigrant and person of color or a foreign ethnic group by the behavior of one person, who by the way, was just trolling the stupid reaction to her opinion about Barbara Bush. I guess that we can have First Amendment rights only for speech we like.

Daniel Alveo I said nothing about immigrants or persons of color in my post. Also, do you think her behavior is what we should all aspire to?

You're a Trumptard

I agree. The minute Meacham made the comment about men coming to the party late, Maher went all conservative justice warrior on him. I think it's ironic that the politically incorrect are so quick to go to identity politics mode the minute anyone is slightly critical of their preferred group.

Thomas Ridley What constitutes hanging by a thread to You? I'm not a Trump supporter but this crying wolf attitude is disingenuous

Fat bastard lets see destroying the saftey net, social security, snap, the unions, worker and consumer protections, all designed to make us ready to work at stravation wages. What you haven't been paying any attention. Your not one of those who think that the bottom is just to well off.