Jonas Vingegaard Gravel: Unnecessary Risk In Tour de France 2024 

@sunshine. You opinion is heard and noted. At the end of the day, you’re wrong😂

@@alanwllms5172 The cleverness of a 7 year old.

It is great to watch. But from a GC Team perspective, it is an uncontrollable risk they hate. There is not much they can do if their top guy gets a puncture, and loosing a minute to a puncture would propably decide the whole race.

Correct, but then the risk of mechanical problems was spread over several days/weeks. It could happen to one of the GC riders one day, and to another one the next day.

@@nxzstudio8495 tadej is not a sore loser only time he showed anger was in flanders 2022

@@dev1ce888 This is not about being a sore loser. A puncture at a crucial moment could ruin months of hard work. A puncture is possible any day, but then the cars would be close. Benoot had a puncture and stood by the side of the road for several minutes

@@carlvanmeerbeek7327 part of the race even pogacar knows that

And people used to ride horses for travel. Now we have cars. We evolve.

I respectfully disagree. Some riders descend better than others, on gravel or cobbles it depends on luck. Vingegaard punctured today, if he hadn't had his teammate nearby his Tour would have been over

@@carlvanmeerbeek7327 I understand your point and it is valid, but I also love to see how teams can organise and fight back these kind of situations

I love that they put a gravel stage here because it's an unpredictable stage where it's based on luck and skill of the rider.

@@gerdkerman9849 in my opinion a grand tour shouldn't be decided on luck

Entitled ? They’ve earnt the right to comment, you and I could only dream of being as successful as

@@nishiki7047absolutely agree with you….they are the ones out there earning a living and risking their lives. I love gravel, but not when I’m on my road bike.

like nibali 2014 that was a dominant display : ) I was hoping for rain!!

Nibali still my favourite 💪​@ryanphelan6861

Jonas is a wuss.. Talented for sure, but still…

True.

tap water doesnt win tdf 2 times.

@@TellusJDtap water is more of a runner than a cyclist I guess

Its certainly safer.

Safer in which sense? Normally nothing happens in downhill. If something happens you might die but those are pros, they take that risk. In a gravel stage, punctures happen all the time. So from a loosing time perspective, it is a much higher risk.

@@arnoldhau1 André Drege just died in a downhill Tour crash in Austria. I haven’t heard of any riders dying during an Unbound crash.

@@petersouthernboy6327 As I said, it happens (also with Gino Maeder) but not that often. So yes ocassionaly someone dies in a downhill, but on Gravel a top rider may loose time due to a puncture which is much more likely. Those are racers, they accept that they have to take some risk, but they want to win.

@@arnoldhau1 you’re conflating the term “risk”. Competition risk vs Life/Health risk

Why not criticize? They are professionals in an already risky road race. They should risk themselves for fan views and TDF relevancy. Sure I can see where the additional risk is logical. Not.

@@stacyp3295 What risk exactly are you talking about? The biggest 'risk' on these gravel roads was having a flat. You know what is the bigger risk? Ride only under perfect conditions, perfect surfaces, perfeclty predictable... when professional cycling becomes stale and boring af. Don't forget, this is entertainment. No more entertainment, no more viewers.

@@stacyp3295 It was more risky to go down the Galibier when the machines have just removed the ice and the street is covered in snow and water and they are traveling on the false plane at 90 km/ph. Yesterday the risk was for the leaders to puncture and cut themselves. In fact, the most objectionable thing happened on the asphalt. Allowing Vlasov to continue in these conditions and there is no shock protocol is unacceptable. The last Tour already happened with the fall of Carlos Rodríguez.

Indeed, I think some of them forget professional sports live off the entertainment value.

His racing style is very controlled and calculated. I think it is normal that a risky stage is clearly not his thing.

Almost every stage so has favoured pogacar. There are few and far between real mountain stages. Why not put in a 6000 altitude meters stage and see vingegaard eat 5 minutes on everyone. Well not very enjoyable right? So Id say, gravel is a lottery in terms of technical and mechanical problems. Pogacar is strong on this terrain so he has better odds and so he enjoys it.

No people with an IQ over 110 likes Pogi. Have fun being unintelligent

@@455LT1 His allergy to heat makes him even more likable to me. I can ride in 3 degrees no problem but don't give me an incredibly hot day please.

depends who you ask. dont speak for everyone.

@@Nosh_Feratu Well he speaks for 90% of us 4sure-ja!

@@Lapsontheboy 90% hey....where did you get that number from? just curious.....

You know what's the bigger risk? Make professional cycling so boring people stop watching.

​@@Atlas_21👌

@@Atlas_21fun over safety… People get bored… Brilliant!

@@riccardosunda5176 Oh yeah because it's so dangerous riding these gravel roads roflol. 😂 Go watch darts if even this is too dangerous for you. Oh no wait, the pointy darts may land in your eyes!

It was more risky to go down the Galibier when the machines have just removed the ice and the street is covered in snow and water and they are traveling on the false plane at 90 km/ph. Yesterday the risk was for the leaders to puncture and cut themselves. In fact, the most objectionable thing happened on the asphalt. Allowing Vlasov to continue in these conditions and there is no shock protocol is unacceptable. The last Tour already happened with the fall of Carlos Rodríguez.

Gravel road racing is not majorly different at all to the type of racing that was done in the early days of the Tour de France itself!

Strada Bianche is a full road race, not gravel not MTB, so are the north classics on the cobblestones.

Absurd for them to criticize today's stage. Today's cyclists cross between vineyards and the French countryside with their super bikes and all the highest-tech customization. The cyclists of yesteryear raced on this terrain but in the Alps and the Pyrenees.

Tdf started on gravel though… lol

What a stupid comment! It was on road, just a gravel road for short sections rather than tar. The other scenarios you mention are not roads!

It was more risky to go down the Galibier when the machines have just removed the ice and the street is covered in snow and water and they are traveling on the false plane at 90 km/ph. Yesterday the risk was for the leaders to puncture and cut themselves. In fact, the most objectionable thing happened on the asphalt. Allowing Vlasov to continue in these conditions and there is no shock protocol is unacceptable. The last Tour already happened with the fall of Carlos Rodríguez.

Absurd for them to criticize today's stage. Today's cyclists cross between vineyards and the French countryside with their super bikes and all the highest-tech customization. The cyclists of yesteryear raced on this terrain but in the Alps and the Pyrenees.

@@cesarortegaescamilla1782 And they all had way more robust bicycles dude. What you call hightech is a lot more fragile frame. Its just lighter and more aero but that doesnt matter if everyone has it.

​@@TellusJDIt was more risky to go down the Galibier when the machines have just removed the ice and the street is covered in snow and water and they are traveling on the false plane at 90 km/ph. Yesterday the risk was for the leaders to puncture and cut themselves. In fact, the most objectionable thing happened on the asphalt. Allowing Vlasov to continue in these conditions and there is no shock protocol is unacceptable. The last Tour already happened with the fall of Carlos Rodríguez.

But he lost no time egen drivning on aanother mans bike , 1, 15 im happy nowwing winges terrin is just to come❤❤

@@larshansen4557 remains to ne seen yet... mountain stafes coming up it will be interesting 4sure

Well he was there wasnt he ? On another mans bike he keppt up whith the favorit

But the best in high terrin, so why should he drive otherwise

@@larshansen4557oh please! you are dane i suppose…

He wants to ride roadrace which is what tdf has been forever. Those who ride gravel usually go to strade bianche or similar.

@@TellusJD Actually no, the early editions would have been what we today call "gravel" aka non-tarmac roads.

Absurd for them to criticize today's stage. Today's cyclists cross between vineyards and the French countryside with their super bikes and all the highest-tech customization. The cyclists of yesteryear raced on this terrain but in the Alps and the Pyrenees.

Because he beat Tadej more than 7mins last time out 😅😅😅

Well tell that to the people that raced the tdf to begin with… it was only gravel. Now I’m asking you, why should it only be and how would they do that?

Mountain bikers are a lot less winey than Jonas.

Yes and TDF should decide for themselves, no need to listen to Jonas.

The race was started on these roads

Im sure tadej has no problem with gravel. A true all rounder

TDF will continue with Jonas or without, he can skip the tour of he doesn't like the gravel.

Absurd for them to criticize today's stage. Today's cyclists cross between vineyards and the French countryside with their super bikes and all the highest-tech customization. The cyclists of yesteryear raced on this terrain but in the Alps and the Pyrenees.

​@norbertosabido7274 if u applied that logic, then F1, MotoGP, 24HLe Mans should be adding a gravel stage too right? The race was started on gravel roads too. 😂 They just wanna sell the gravel bike that is rarely used on.

Absurd for them to criticize today's stage. Today's cyclists cross between vineyards and the French countryside with their super bikes and all the highest-tech customization. The cyclists of yesteryear raced on this terrain but in the Alps and the Pyrenees.

Why? You prefer boring every day the same stages instead? This was a nice addition.

@@cesarortegaescamilla1782 so the toughest people on the planet are not allowed to complain????

When did he say he didn’t want descents, he stated that Pogacar has a downhill advantage because he’s heavier. Jonas is a better technical descender than most of the peloton outside of maybe C Rod and Pidcock, he was gaining time in the initial part of the galibier descent but when it was a straight flat, Pogacar has more absolute power as well as a weight advantage. This was a gravel section on a flat route so there is no threat to GC unless someone falls which isn’t in the spirit of the race considering more than half the time the person(s) who cause the crash aren’t the ones competing for GC. Seems like you’re just unnecessarily hating.

😂 What are you on about?are you like 5 or sth?

@@josephsong8911 Oh, I’m sarcastically saying what would Jonas want. What a shocker, right? If you don’t like it, maybe it's time to grow a thicker skin. Because, clearly, dealing with a little sarcasm is the hardest thing you'll face today.

TDF will continue with Jonas or without, he can skip the tour of he doesn't like the gravel.

@@user-ov9xn1gn5k Without Jonas whoever wins TDF did not beat the best to the end that would be one lame TDF

Said a keyboard warrior who likely doesn't even own a bike. The point is this is an unnecessary risk, which you clearly missed.

@@Edmond347I am a former pro road racer. There are many road races that have some gravel segments. You clearly have t receded much at top levels.

@@danielkaminske5048 Not sure what you wrote, but this is not just another road race. It’s The road race. “Road” being the key word. There are gravel events. No reason to endanger unnecessarily; the Tour is already uber dangerous. Another factor is completely random punctures or other malfunctions due to the terrain which can decide the outcome of the whole race. It’s absurd and should not be the case. But for you to say they are “crybabies” is offensive, especially if you were, as you claim, a former pro rider. I’d think you’d show some respect for these men. They have balls of steel and size of grapefruits.

@@Edmond347 again I will reiterate since you’re struggling to read. This wasn’t the first tdf stage to contain gravel and there are many road races that contain gravel. It is part of road racing. So to wine about it is silly and just being negative. It is no different than have cobble segments which is very common in the tdf. I will not try to explain reality to you again.