Would love to see Jonathan Haidt talk with Herman Daily (ex world bank) as a live chat, Because of course there is a third argument not covered here, One neither Business or politicians can take the blame or responsibility for, But rather is the structure of our economies and our economic system. Jonathan shows us the success of capitalism to lift the very poor from poverty, what it misses is when society hits uneconomic growth ,when the marginal benefits of manufacturing more goods and a growing economy, are outweighed by the negative social and environmental impacts. Socialism is most definitely not the way, but neither is unconstrained capitalism against finite resources. (In an economic system that only grows, expands and consumes more without factoring in externalities of the environment and social costs)
I’ve been thinking the 5 moral virtues run parallel to mazlows 5 tiers of hierarchy and need. The top part of pyramid is more platonic while the top is hedonistic and liberals seem more concerned with basic needs than abstract social constructs like non-nuclear family, collective agent psychology, group decisions, testimonials, and self-reflection...which would explain their rush to rebrand evolutionary psychology as devoid of 3rd order epi-constructs that approximate what we accurately measure now as human rights to thought, religion, and expression for example.
Wow I’ve heard Johnathon on joe rogan and liked him a lot so I watched this but his solo speech was amazing, witty and super smart, so satisfied with this watch
As a Scandinavian there are some fundamental problems with using "Scandinavian capitalism" as societal model for all societies. People tend to forget that the Scandinavian societal model was initially established for a homogeneous population on a moral framework of relatively pious protestant Christianity. The homogeneous population created the underlying sense of community and solidarity. The christian religion furthered a good work ethic and low-corruption society with high levels of trust. Right now Scandinavian countries are seeing their model of society being rapidly undermined. Both by the rapid secularization of society, but also through migration which is making the countries more heterogeneous. Actually, many Scandinavians are looking to move towards the US individualistic capitalism style of society as a model for how to adapt their societies to these trends.
"Hivishness" viene de "hive", que es "colmena", como de abejas. Hivishness entonces, tiene que ver con el sentido de pertenencia a una colectividad y el accionar en función de la colectividad antes en en función del individuo. "Awe" es la sensación de estar positivamente abrumado/a, reverencia profunda, contemplación, etc.
Guy in the middle talking about competition being bad when its the key, Adam smith the father of capitalism explains how competition uses peoples greed and forces them to use that greed for the greater good. People talk about crony capitalism which is no better than communism and act like that’s what real capitalists believe in
right but you have to look at idealism vs reality. Just like how idealistic communism is wonderful and realistic communism is awful, idealistic capitalism is wonderful and practical capitalism is messy,
Interesting point that decency and dynamism aren't perfectly inversely correlated, which makes me think that UBI is a good way of promoting both- giving people the security to take risks
I wish Jonathan was given more presentation time and q and a with the audience. Laura Tysons repeating of Jonathans last statement with a slightly confused tone, or even giggling, definitely doesn't help add anything to the conversation. Not a great look for Haas here IMO
Assume a virtue, if you have it not. That monster, custom, who all sense doth eat, Of habits devil, is angel yet in this, That to the use of actions fair and good He likewise gives a frock or livery That aptly is put on. Refrain tonight, And that shall lend a kind of easiness To the next abstinence; the next more easy; For use almost can change the stamp of nature.
14:00 I don't know how I feel about his failure to mention colonialism. Wait, I do know how I feel about it. Bad. I feel bad. It's not an honest representation of this "GDP" that was gained. He even said "nobody knew how to make stuff" and somehow didn't follow up with "but they knew how to steal stuff" which I find odd.
It's sickening how they praise the pressure against Adidas. Oxfam studied the result of that crap and the finality of it was that children starved or went into prostitution. No, people using their "feels" don't benefit others using their knowledge.
16:00 "Capitalism made our world" what? He got that from a graph about... money? When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail, I guess.
There are some good things about capitalism but I believe that the means of production should be publicly owned instead of privately owned because political democracy requires economic democracy.
