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Jonathan Pollard: The Russia-Ukraine War 

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@markgordon5387
@markgordon5387 5 месяцев назад
My Elter-Zaide was born in Ukraine in 1867. His family relocated during his childhood to Vilná. By 1898, he, his wife, parents, and first three children moved to London for religious freedom. He said Ukrainie was a rotten place to live. The people of Ukraine weren't nice to Jews. My Bubbe said that Ukrainian people were a "mean" people.
@barbados3592
@barbados3592 5 месяцев назад
I promise you that when your ancestors first moved there they were saying how wonderful the Ukrainians were to Jews abd how awful whatever country they came from. WE. BELONG. IN. ISRAEL.
@markgordon5387
@markgordon5387 5 месяцев назад
​@@barbados3592 My grandfather's family just referred to it as Russia and Russia was awful. Regardless of Belarus, Lithuania, or Ukraine. My family started moving to the Land of Israel in the 1870s.
@michelles5439
@michelles5439 5 месяцев назад
@@markgordon5387mine too exactly but mine moved to Israel in 1820.
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 Месяц назад
It's very well documented that Ukrainians worked with the Nazis in WWII and like pretty much all of Eastern Europe, had a lot of hatred for Jews. But that was many decades ago and now they have a Jewish president, have no official stance of anti-Semitism, do not oppose Israel or the US, and can be considered good guys these days. Russia is a dire threat to Europe, Israel, and the world. Russia is the real enemy.
@mselbit
@mselbit 5 месяцев назад
This is the first time I disagree with Pollard.
@777Hannah1
@777Hannah1 5 месяцев назад
This world is ruled by monsters! There will be a day of reckoning for ALL their evil schemes and actions!!
@HenryMiller-vm2kq
@HenryMiller-vm2kq 5 месяцев назад
PLEASE DATE AND NUMBER EVERY SEGMENT THAT YOU PUT OUT. THANK YOU. I REALLY ENJOY THESE INTERVIEWS.
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 5 месяцев назад
That will never happen, but you can go to the channel and see the dates that they were put up by age
@user-jx5dm2ih7g
@user-jx5dm2ih7g 5 месяцев назад
Nigeria was an up and coming nation but the educated ibo people in oil rich east were persecuted and Britain told them if they declare independence arms will come. The arms never came and Britain set Nigeria back 30 years. Then Hillary later helped Moslems get control. Ukraine a similar thing?
@Shoshana-xh6hc
@Shoshana-xh6hc 5 месяцев назад
The British handed control of the oil to… the muslims in the north.
@TheBalterok
@TheBalterok 5 месяцев назад
US Congress passed a Lend Lease law for Ukraine 9 May, 2022. White House made everything possible that Ukraine gets nothing. They are not getting the Lend Lease, their aid is bundled in packages with other countries, the total aid from America and Europe is a tiny fraction of what Putin spends on the war and thanks to "sanctions" and oil prices his proceeds rose 400 billion last year.
@SkillandChillParenting
@SkillandChillParenting 5 месяцев назад
😮
@kableguy-ur3pe
@kableguy-ur3pe 5 месяцев назад
1st time I think Pollard is misreading the situation. The Rav correctly pushed back on the idea that Ukraine should be supported to continue on the basis that Russia is at the end of it's tether. While they may have been a plucky adversory the west is the guilty party in this story and suing for peace is the only outcome
@Shoshana-xh6hc
@Shoshana-xh6hc 5 месяцев назад
I agree
@jamesrowntree108
@jamesrowntree108 5 месяцев назад
And why would the West keep on pushing Russia, if it really is at the end of its tether, when Russia has the most powerful nuclear weapons arsenal in the world and WILL use it if Russia is threatened with destruction by the West.
@robinwavestou5526
@robinwavestou5526 5 месяцев назад
Ukraine represents NATO, as it's whipping post apparently. The Rabbi was closer to the reality in his assessment. I don't see where Pollard is coming from, and what I hear doesn't jive with the reality of even what was going on with the non-existent/existent laboratories. The ones Nuland eventually admitted to when asked by Sen. Rubio of Florida.
@judaismtreasures9606
@judaismtreasures9606 5 месяцев назад
💯 He doesn’t get what is going on with this proxy war
@user-jx5dm2ih7g
@user-jx5dm2ih7g 5 месяцев назад
One thing left out is Russia's nukes.
@TheBalterok
@TheBalterok 5 месяцев назад
they are non-existent. the country is a bluff.
@seanvandiijk2889
@seanvandiijk2889 5 месяцев назад
Glad to tune every day to my favorite kosher news report! ❤❤
@rezzob
@rezzob 4 месяца назад
with this level of knowledge and info, no wonder we are in the mess we are!
@user-jz6wu7ts3q
@user-jz6wu7ts3q 5 месяцев назад
it's the former Ukraine now. to believe that Kiev can defeat Russia is insane.
@barbados3592
@barbados3592 5 месяцев назад
We should only be looking at tbis from an analytical perspective and encourage peace and at least a minimization of suffering. Basically how we wish people would treat us
@hannetjiewandrag5079
@hannetjiewandrag5079 5 месяцев назад
USA already gave trillions to Ukraine. Don't think all the money is spend on weapons. Zalinski are a very rich man????
@innocentodenigbo7284
@innocentodenigbo7284 5 месяцев назад
That's true.
@user-ru3vl2oq3l
@user-ru3vl2oq3l 5 месяцев назад
Actually billions not trillions
@thomasmassey322
@thomasmassey322 5 месяцев назад
And some in the United States Congress...
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 Месяц назад
The US is selling to Ukraine, "last year's fashions" in terms of weapons. This is the same situation as with Israel, where the US "gives" Israel money but that money is spent buying weapons from the US, often stuff that's going to get scrapped eventually anyway, and this means American jobs.
@EliHaNavi
@EliHaNavi 5 месяцев назад
The Russians no longer bomb with 30K shells per day. Pollard is out of touch with the Ukrainian situation. Russians bomb with 10K shells per day vs Ukro 2K.
@EliHaNavi
@EliHaNavi 5 месяцев назад
"Russian human waves tactics?" -- you don't really know what's happening, if you actually believe in this nonsense.
@deborahelkins8744
@deborahelkins8744 5 месяцев назад
I agree wholeheartedly with Rav Bar Haim. Thank you.
@MegaFount
@MegaFount 5 месяцев назад
“Propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government.” - Edward Bernays
@user-yb6eo1xp2f
@user-yb6eo1xp2f 5 месяцев назад
Jonathan is right
@Danielseven-ir2mq
@Danielseven-ir2mq 5 месяцев назад
What the west did to precipitate this. 23:06 . Well said. The west said give us east Germany and "not one inch eastward" NATO will not expand east. (Istanbul declaration 1999. Astana declaration 2010.) Russia was misled.
@MrAbuYaz
@MrAbuYaz 5 месяцев назад
The question of whether the West will fight to the last drop of Ukranian blood raises the question, who will be President in 2025. If a democrat inhabits the White House, aid will continue. If RFK Jr. or Trump become President, aid will cease and Ukraine will lose the war.
@jamesrowntree108
@jamesrowntree108 5 месяцев назад
Using Pollard's logic, America should have just accepted Soviet nukes in Cuba and if America did not like that, well, the Soviets should have just beefed up their military in Cuba. That is the crazy thinking that almost started a nuclear war back in 1962. If America was unwilling to accept having hostile enemy bases on its borders then, why does anyone act all surprised and shocked when Russia does exactly the same and refuses to accept NATO bases in Ukraine? NATO did actually spend a lot of time and money and supplied weapons and training for 8 years, from the 2014 NATO coup that overthrew the democratic government of Ukraine until Putin finally responded in 2022. After 2 years, everything NATO did and gave to Ukraine has been destroyed. NATO is running out of weapons and ammunition. Countries like France and Germany and UK have very small and weak armies. NATO cannot beat Russia in a war in Europe. Unless they start using nukes... In which case NATO will cease to exist a few hours later, as Russia uses its much more powerful and accurate missiles in response. As Putin said... 'We may die. But our enemies will not have time to repent.' - They will be dead very quickly. Same applies to Israel being forced to use Israeli nukes against Damascus and Iran. Pollard seems to make so much sense when he talks about Israel and Gaza, but he is way out of touch with reality when he talks about Russia and Ukraine.
@ismardidic3505
@ismardidic3505 5 месяцев назад
Thanks ❤ Jonathan I agree with you 💯
@davids9167
@davids9167 5 месяцев назад
On this subject I disagree with Pollard. Russia is in the right we should not be supporting UkroNzis and Jew haters
@jrutt2675
@jrutt2675 4 месяца назад
I think Russia has far more Nazis!
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 Месяц назад
Zelenski is Jewish ...
@user-jz6wu7ts3q
@user-jz6wu7ts3q 5 месяцев назад
Human waves is exactly what Ukraine is doing. Pollard could not be more wrong here.
@lionofjudah61967
@lionofjudah61967 5 месяцев назад
Neither side is doing human waves. You couldn’t be more wrong here.
@judaismtreasures9606
@judaismtreasures9606 5 месяцев назад
He doesn’t get this right
@lionofjudah61967
@lionofjudah61967 5 месяцев назад
@@judaismtreasures9606 show a proof of human waves attacks on either side
@wildvlogz6979
@wildvlogz6979 5 месяцев назад
Hi Jonathan , what do u think of the article of general BRIK in the jpost ? alarming or too dark ?
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 5 месяцев назад
He was interviewed on Israel update which is on Rumble and it is a dire situation
@innocentodenigbo7284
@innocentodenigbo7284 5 месяцев назад
What Rav Bar Hayim said is true.
@user-jx5dm2ih7g
@user-jx5dm2ih7g 5 месяцев назад
Yugoslavia was a rapidly developing nation that Germany feared eventual threat in manufacturing sales. Germany saw low level moving to high level quality goods over time. Non expansive communist Yugoslavia had to go Germany helped incite ethnic tensions to break up Yugoslavia for commerce and trade. The west today is wicked and Russia is wicked. What to do ?
@Shoshana-xh6hc
@Shoshana-xh6hc 5 месяцев назад
Plus US and uk.
@user-jx5dm2ih7g
@user-jx5dm2ih7g 5 месяцев назад
True.
@barbados3592
@barbados3592 5 месяцев назад
be strong and courageous.
@pavlemarina
@pavlemarina 5 месяцев назад
Yugoslavian here to add my 2 cents... IMHO the whole civil war in YU in heart of Europe was initiated not by Germans, although I don't claim they were not interested, but by Americans, who successfully disrupted the process of unification of Europe and postponed the establishment of European Union and creation of Euro for 10 years! Americans through their sleazy actions direct or indirect created huge number of killed maimed and thrown out of their ancestral homes people inside of YU and influenced migration crisis not seen in Europe at the time. Weak point in center of Europe is powder keg still waiting for Americans to push the button when they see fit. ALL of that was a children's game compared to their next target, all of it was just practicing for next goal, destruction of CCCP and preparing groundwork for keeping future local wars and hotspots with overall vision of steering Europe in whatever direction Americans want, as clearly seen today. When I hear about Americans pushing in any country for creating of Non Profit Organization, opening Human Rights council offices and organizing Democracy Supporting committees - I start counting months before that country is utterly destroyed
@user-jx5dm2ih7g
@user-jx5dm2ih7g 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for input. I do agree America took charge in destroying Yugoslavia. I used to listen to Yugoslavia English broadcast nightly for news on short wave radio. The news lady one night in midsentance the audio went blank. Next day I learned bill Clinton blew her up in the radio studio live on air. I know Clinton began bombing of Serbia on annual communion night. Very evil time pick. I'm born in America but in Israel 30 years. I know America is Satan's masterpiece creation. God poured millions of Godly people into America to seize it from Satan and a battle has raged for control all along. Good had the upper hand for awhile but now evil prevails. Israel like most western nations also have good v evil fighting to control. The line that America has crossed is half its people are wicked now too. It used to be wicked rulers but most people good, but no more. It would take a lot to print all the details but American govt has always been Israel's enemy. I'm a weird character as I'm Jewish and Israeli and keep correct sabbath and keep kosher by genesis, not rabbi rules but I serve my messiah yahshua. Israel will turn to him as she goes thru the now lit refining fire. They don't know this but they will as prophesy says they will. My attachment to Serbs is in general most have always been good to Jews, a rare thing in Europe and Serbs I've known are nice people. Yes, even a few good Croatians too but not so many That's my short story. Thank you for an interest to respond. As native born American, because of what America has become, I look forward to its demise so as not to hurt the world any longer. I also pray the good people there get out in time. This does not mean I support Putin sadly all sides are evil with no good side left and why our world soon will be ending into a new world under God.
@dreznik
@dreznik 5 месяцев назад
pollard is completely wrong. those goals were never stated
@videolanderen
@videolanderen 5 месяцев назад
He’s literally wrong about everything he says, not just this issue.
@geofmordecai-rk5jm
@geofmordecai-rk5jm 5 месяцев назад
I will comment at the end of the interview. Malka has a very important letter you must read. I sent you 10 to prison. Please read this one. This is not a joke. Really very very central, the spiritual War can only be won spiritually.
@cliftonmoberg288
@cliftonmoberg288 5 месяцев назад
Iran has hinted (3 months ago?) that it will assist Russia with its soldiers for their joint operations.
@skeptik3258
@skeptik3258 5 месяцев назад
The USA could create your dmz in Jerusalem and expand it from there?
@pavlemarina
@pavlemarina 5 месяцев назад
Someone in comments mentioned Yugoslavia as a comparison... Yugoslavian here to add my 2 cents... It would seem unrelated to Ukraino-Russo conflict but 🧸 with me... IMHO the whole civil war in YU in heart of Europe was initiated not by Germans, although I don't claim they were not interested, but by Americans, who successfully disrupted the process of unification of Europe and postponed the establishment of European Union and creation of Euro for 10 years! Americans through their sleazy actions, direct or indirect, created huge number of killed maimed and thrown out of their ancestral homes people inside of YU and influenced migration crisis not seen in Europe at the time. No one was crying "humanitarian disaster" then! Where were you, good people of Europe and all of you Palestinians, Tito and YU were one of greatest supporters of Arafat and PLO, where were you then to help brothers in need?! Balkan is still a weak point in center of Europe sleeping powder keg waiting for Americans to push the button when they see fit. ALL of that happened with YU was a children's game compared to their next target, all of it was just practicing for next goal, destruction of CCCP and preparing groundwork for keeping future European local wars and hotspots with overall vision of steering Europe in whatever direction Americans want, as clearly seen today. When I hear about Americans pushing in any country for creating of Non Profit Organization, opening Human Rights council offices and organizing Democracy Supporting committees - I start counting months before that country is utterly destroyed. Ukraino-Russo war is just another way of controlling Europe, just imagine - gas pipe line out of order, countries that never needed to buying HUGE amounts of sophisticated weaponry from America, some other countries ramping up production of armaments to arm Ukrainians, financial turmoil in Europe added by HUGE immigration from Arab countries... Situation in Israel and with Palestinians Who benefits?
@lapulgagigante10
@lapulgagigante10 5 месяцев назад
😂
@lionofjudah61967
@lionofjudah61967 5 месяцев назад
Jonathan is much more accurate in his assessment of the situation than rabbi. The rabbi, basically rephrased Russian propaganda talk king points. The invasion of Ukraine had nothing to do with the NATO expansion - it was just a pretext. Finland entering NATO represents a much higher threat, according to Putin’s own argument, and notice, there was not a pipsqueak from Russia about it. And Zelenskyy did offer neutrality in March of 2022, but it was rejected by Russia, when the Russian troops were surrounding Kiev. The story about Putin wanted to join NATO is a hearsay - there are very specific steps that Russia had to undertake to qualify - how do you know that there was not a pushback from its generals and industrial-military complex, how do you known that Putin was serious about it?
@Achdus5772
@Achdus5772 5 месяцев назад
I saw Putin state what you are calling hearsay, to Tucker Carlson in his interview. Watch the video.
@lionofjudah61967
@lionofjudah61967 5 месяцев назад
@@Achdus5772 you can’t be that naive to take what Putin said at a face value. I heard him alleging that well before the Tuckers interview, which even Tucker stated was a BS ( on Lex Friedman show) Putin is a notorious and compulsive liar. Just watch his interviews from 2000 to 2014 to 2022 where he was consistently lying about Russia’s meddling in the Ukrainian affairs. His treatment of Politkovskaya, Nemtsov and Navalnyi are no clues for you? His outright and full support of hamas, hezbollah, Iran and hosting their assembly in Moscow a few weeks ago doesn’t give you a reason to study the man for what he is. I am surprised that you think that geopolitical interests are the prime drivers behind the illegal invasion of Ukraine.
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 5 месяцев назад
Look up the size of NATO headquarters and tell me that it's not a problem, it's just the penetration branch of the military industrial complex, all of this stuff could be backed off on
@TheBalterok
@TheBalterok 5 месяцев назад
Putin is a nturally born liar, educated in an agency whose central line of work was propaganda. Every war starts with a pretext and he was readying his since the very beginning of his presidency with precise rhetoric that left no doubt what his aspirations are. @@Achdus5772
@lionofjudah61967
@lionofjudah61967 5 месяцев назад
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape it is not a problem. The problem with NATO is its over-reliance on the US.
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