There’s always been something terribly wrong with this whole case. The police screwed it all up. The dad finding her was bizarre. Why go look in a weird place of the house with a window no one could fit through? I’ve always felt patsy did it or knew about it. The note on the stationary was from them. The lie detector test coming back inconclusive. Just so many weird things that give more questions than answers. Patsys karma, dying of ovarian cancer. I think the parents are monsters. The boy (man) is probably fucked in the head after all of this.
Too many evil sick people that run these abduction of children and protected by the corrupt system we have. Child Beauty Pageants, should not be allowed they exploit children and psychologically harm them and jeopardize their innocence that they will never get back. RIP JonBenet ✝️❤️💫
@@karengodoy8625 It has always seemed to me that a large portion of our society back then never even knew these types of beauty pageants even existed. I know I didn't and a lot of people I knew and worked with didn't.
Y’all who think you solved a nearly 30 year old murder based on a persons facial expression drive me absolutely mad. I hate using this phrase but holy heck you guys sound like npcs. “OMG HE DID IT HE SMILED SEE!!! SEEE!?”
This case is very simple. Burke accidentally killed JonBenet when she tried to steal his pineapple. He may not have even realized his own strength and ultimately went to bed. Patsy realized that JonBenet was unconscious and, in trying to protect her son, finished the job and covered it up while John was sleeping, including writing that ridiculous ransom note (with her own pen and pad.) That's why John seems genuinely innocent in all his interviews. I don't think he knows what his wife did. She died with that secret...
@@keepingitreal5533 To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright. FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
Jill Asbill I somewhat agree but there is a form of PTSD where you act weird like this.furthermore,the crime is waaaaay too violent if it was just over a piece of pineapple.they always say Overkill is definitely from someone u know though idk it's a real who dunnit remember though foreign DNA on her drawers
Its called dissociative identity disorder. He was abused too. Thats why he acts like that, his personality is literally fragmented. Now imagine he is being blamed for a crime they say he committed when he was 9 years old when he clearly knew old men were responsible and faced it himself. And now has to shut up for fear of his life. Wouldnt you act strange in his shoes?
Queerty R A mentally ill child has the potential to kill, whether or not he had the intention to kill her? Who knows? But it’s not unheard of or the least bit strange. It’s entirely possible that he killed her, accidentally or otherwise, and the loving parents protected him. They weren’t great though. It had to be someone in the house. I don’t see even a slither of a possibility that the parents did it. Though I get the feeling that they knew something. No way they didn’t know. They said they searched the whole house. How do you search the whole house and then find her in the basement?
It will never sit right with me how she was found in the basement doesn’t make sense if u suspect ur child is kidnapped u would tear ur house apart making sure they are not there
Normal people would call the cops Immediately, the child could still be in a Car heading Wherever, time is of the essence. BTW - what part of Ransom Note do you Not understand? FYI - officer Rick French arrived within 6 minutes of the Start of that 911 call, Patsy had just got off the phone, John was running around trying to find where someone got in. Officer Rick French had them sit in the sunroom & he did a cursory look around then officer Vietch arrived. The cops took over, that's how it goes.
yet boulder police never opened the basement door where she was found, and ignored the basement window that was left open with scuff mark on the wall and the suitcase underneath the window with a bit of her hair left inside meaning he had carried her downstairs in the suitcase.
@@marilynwillett804 There were many rooms in that basement, the cellar where JB was later found was one of Two that the cops didn't open & so did not enter. The cops didn't go through the train room door either & so didn't know about the open window til they went back that evening. The perps did not carry JB downstairs in that suitcase. It is likely she was placed in there for a while after the scream & they ran outside for a while til they knew the coast was clear.
@@Like_Ikethe mom? What about the sexual assault evidence? I think it was the father because of that. He had probably been molesting her for a long time and she threatened to tell or he thought she would.
Some people smile when they’re nervous, uncomfortable, worried etc. I do that too. For example my stepdad got into a car crash before I was was smiling when I heard the news. It wasn’t because it was funny or I was happy, it’s just a nervous/scared expression I naturally do and I’ve done that for years.
@@julia-tc9gt He can be nervous simply because he is not adapted to social contact, I have the impression of being there alone to find his normal behavior,In any case for one person socialy awkward, I also sometimes smile and laugh in stressful situations or just when I am accused of something
What always stood out was how the police searched the basement and didn't find anything then the dad goes in alone and all of a sudden found his daughter's lifeless body almost as if he knew where she was.
Fleet White went down the basement early that morning but didn't tell anyone he did that. He later said that his little girl went missing x long before this event & after searching everywhere she was found under her bed. So his story went. He was interviewed more than once about his actions for the morning of the 26th & at his own house as well & he was losing it by the time they all travelled to Atlanta for the funeral, where he carried a gun. There was an incident at Patsy's parent's house because he wasn't coping. He was interviewed 17 times in total & went to the governor eventually to demand that a grand jury be convened to save his own ass. Even when he & John went down the basement at 1 p.m., Fleet never said anything about having been down the basement already. He later told the cops that when he was down there, he had flipped the latch down from above & pulled open the cellar door but it was pitch dark, he couldn't find the light switch & walked away. Being a coal bin/cellar originally, that cement room had no windows & the light fixture was in an odd place, one had to step inside, go left for x many steps & it was on the other side of a beam about half way down. 3 cops were down the basement early that morning at Different times. French couldn’t flip the latch down that was at the top of the cellar door so he walked away. Reichenbach pulled the door knob, it had a bit of give he said, he walked away. So, for this reason alone, made what Fleet said later, Very suspicious. Weiss was down there taking photos. Fleet nor any cops went through the train room door either & so to those windows in the craft’s room where one was broken. The perps did Not enter or exit through that window, but that is Not the point. The BPD have always kept That fact hidden from the public also - their cops didn’t know about those windows in the basement at all & Nobody was looking for JB, they were tasked to check entry & exit points. It wasn't til that evening when the cops went back that they saw the broken window & that's Why the 'famous' photo of the open window was taken in the Night. John was also down the basement before 8 that morning because he knew someone could get in that window as he done in the summer when he locked himself out of the house. He had broken that window, reached in to unlock it & then got through there, as he had done before. Those windows couldn't be obviously seen from ground level & that one was the cheapest to fix. The morning of the 26th, he saw the broken window was open a fraction & he locked it. He saw the suitcase against the wall under the window & thought that was odd because he had put it in the cupboard under the stairs down there a while before Xmas & said he was sure it was empty. He had to get back upstairs in case the call came in, 8-10, though the note said Tomorrow. He knew at least one cop had been down the basement & presumed he had checked out that window. When he first went to go in the train room door, there was a chair-stool against the door & a few things next to it, also against the door. He moved the chair to the side & went through. When he came out, he put the chair back as it was. The broken window & the suitcase being where he saw it was bothering him in those hours waiting but he Thought the cops Knew. Like most people, one trusts that the cops know what they're doing but he was to find out later that no cop had seen those windows & so the broken one, even when going around the outside with a flashlight. When Fleet told John that Arndt had said for them to go look around for anything out of place, John took Fleet to show him that window & he told him how he had broken it ages before & why. They were on the floor looking for any glass at all. They had checked the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room first. John noticed fresh paint off the keyhole of the one that used to be an elevator. That was a self locking door & if someone got in there & shut it they couldn't get out. Many days later, the inside of the door was found to have been damaged, being 2 splits down the inside of it that wasn't like that before. The basement had been painted about 1 year previously. When John got up off the floor to walk out of the craft's room, Fleet moved the suitcase away from the wall & found one tiny piece of glass there & put it on top of the suitcase. That's Why the suitcase was in That position, re; the photo. John didn't see Fleet do that. When they went to enter the train room door, the chair was to the side in the hall & a small table was against the door with an Easter basket on top of it & a few other things, so gear was still blocking the door. The broken window was wide open. The Facts Are - the perps put the chair & items against the train room door to block it & the cops thought it was a cupboard & walked past it. When the cops left, the perps went back into that room & one scooted up to try & see where the cops were on that side of the house. He dropped the truckies' mirror that they used for seeing around corners & that can be seen in crime scene photos, against the wall under the window. Because the cops’ video footage was done in the night, the camera had the light on at the front & the round glass object there is shining. The perps were exiting the train room door & they moved the chair to the hall & put the table against the door with the basket & stuff on top & other things either side, so it was still blocked. The moving of the chair & table served the purpose. The reason why the cops couldn't flip the latch down - the perps had a device to hold the latch in place. The items used were picked up by the crime scene techs but it wasn't known Then what those items were about. From what John noticed that morning & at 1 p.m. & from what he was told later, he tried to tell the cops that someone must have been in the basement when the cops were down there, he was ignored, he was Right. The perps had already placed & moved Many things in the basement & all over the house. This led to a blame game, like a 3-ringed circus, in relation to Fleet, the housekeeper & both of them attributing some of the factors, back to the Ramseys. One needs to know that cops ask questions, they don't say Why a question is asked & they don't get back to that person with any resolution about Whatever, so all parties were kept in the dark & so, forever suspicious of each other. Patsy & John did Not believe Fleet was involved but they had questions due to Fleet’s behaviour, up to & including in Atlanta & even after that. It was the Whites who stopped talking to the Ramseys, not the other way around. I feel very sorry for the White family also, they were caught up in the whole fiasco with cops who were not only totally incompetent for this very complex case, they were ever deceitful to cover up all that they did & Didn't do that morning & so, the BS began with false & misleading information being leaked to the media & the cops hiding evidence of an intruder, including the DNA from one, that was under JB’s fingernails & this Fact was kept Hidden from the public as well as from the DA for 7 months. Subsequently, further results over the years as forensic science advanced, a second male perp & in total, several places on JB’s person, so, the DNA from both child killers, skin cells, saliva & touch. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. What have the cops been hiding for years Now? The fact that their cops who were present that morning, should have Caught two highly sadistic child killers!
You should not believe everything that is said. There are cases that the police deliberately hide. The truth is that the case of JonBenet Ramsey’s murder is fabricated and not true. The truth is that JonBenet Ramsey disappeared for a long time and appeared as the same Katy Perry.
@@XCodeHelpHubListen up lovey with Both ears - I am someone who knows pretty much Everything about this case & I tell the True Facts & so, I am Educating the public. It is Not my problem that You & soo many like you, Don't Know ANY. I am Not intimidated by the hate-filled Mob like Yourself, posting your never ending Gobshite about every member of this poor family including this Little Girl. You also live under the Delusion, that you Own the comment sections. You do Not. It is Not my fault that there are soo many highly ignorant Ramsey Bashers running around with your heads firmly planted up your own a##es & then there’s all the brainwashed zombies who also Can’t Stand to be shown you are Wwwrong. FYI - there are millions of Normal people in this world who are actually Interested in getting to the Truth about this case. You can get off on deriding me for No reason at all but that also just points to Your abysmal Character deary. I am Proud to defend these Proven innocent people & at the same time, I am advocating for JB herself. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”. People in your country just Love to hate on their betters, that's why the tabloid magazines still proliferate. The never ending Fooltube shows about this poor little girl’s murder - one big fat tabloid magazine. One would think that you people would have wised up by now but No, it's too much fun to run every member of this fine upstanding family right down to the ground hey. Shame on you all.
The public will Never get the True facts from lowlife a##wipes like This one who repeat the same old False information from TV shows that like the tabloid fodder magazines since the beginning, spouted Whatever about this Proven innocent family for that age old reason - Money.
@@flankweaver regardless of him smiling, there’s sm evidence that it was him. it had to be someone in the house, THE DETECTIVES SAID THATS WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, so that leaves the mom, the dad or her brother. but the knot tied with the rope was a knot they learned in boyscouts, so it was probably her brother. you also may be asking, “then who wrote the note”, and there’s evidence that it was the parents to cover up for him(they literally said the note was written from inside the house) thank u for coming to my ted talk
As a sibling of someone murdered it messes TF out of you and I didn’t get presumed to possibly be involved. He’s traumatized and had his whole life turned upside down from 9 years old and on. He’s not smiling because he’s enjoying it-he just doesn’t know how to act and he’s nervous. He knows he’s been accused of killing her in the past and hasn’t been on TV in years and must have been so nervous.
He might be on the Autistic spectrum. Autistic people sometimes have an off reaction when nervous or under stress. They try to act their way through tough situations where they have to be in the spotlight.
The brother would be suffering lifelong trauma. Not only that, but grew up being followed by press, being watched, analysed, probably cornered publicly, during some of the most vulnerable years of his life. Don't expect a "normal" facial expression or way of talking about it. The whole situation he dealt with was not a "normal" loss of a loved one.
@@user-ox1jw7ur6gI agree with you guys but compared to their dad he is smirking in his interviews and doesn’t show any signs of suffering from Jon benet passing at all… speaking for a man who wrote a book about her death and even has an image of his face only on the cover… I believe patsy and Burke as innocent after all they don’t speak in interviews or wrote a book as much as he freakin did.
Where are those world famous psychics who are said to help police catch criminals? Not one of them stepped up to solve this case!!!! Yet, they are raking in the millions. This is why I believe they are all fake. If there were at least ONE genuine psychic on this planet, he/she would've solved this case. It's received so much press, that I don't know anyone who doesn't know who JonBenet Ramsey is.
@@taiylord7067 RIGHT! Now that you mention it. I can have swore i heard that when the story came out. I thought, isn't this obvious?? The whole thing just doesn't make sense. Who was it?? Thanks for clearing that up for me.
There are real phycics ,but all these cristal ball palm readers are really just just for entertainment , like at carnivals. They don't know anything.Just silly
John said in that interview with Patsy that he wanted to know "why" and "not because we are angry..." so someone kills your kid and you are not angry? As it was said in the documentary... the point was always "why?" Because that was what he wanted to know once he knew who caused that. Jonbenet may never have justice, but it's already pretty clear who caused that but they will never admit that.
Mason Trevino definitely, i’m taking that into account. i get that he’s introverted too and probably a bit socially inept, but i just can’t seem to figure out what else could have happened. i honestly think he killing her by accident is the most plausible theory. perhaps he doesn’t even remember it happened? like he hit her in the face with a golf club before and the wound on her body wasn’t form a tazer but his toy train track....what’s your theory?
I’m not sure yet but I’m not convinced he did it. If he did it alone then that means he would have also been the one to strangle her and I find it hard to believe that CSI wouldn’t be able to tell that the hands were that small. If it is someone in the family, I would say that the dad did it and then the mother wrote the note. Or perhaps it was the family friend that had a little crush on the daughter, I forgot his name. Hopefully I’ll know more as my YT binge continues
Mason Trevino i think it’s definitely someone from the family because of the ransom note and the fact the body was found inside of the house. also the fact they didn’t cooperate with the police and went out of their way to contaminate the crime scene (inviting friends over, moving the body). but i guess we’ll never find out.
I remember this happening when I was in my teens but don’t know any of the details My only question as a parent is how do you sit talking to people about finding your child and not show an ounce of emotion? I think the sons awkward smile is just that awkward but we don’t know what he’s gone through growing up and I think that plays a part. The parents being able to talk about those details of finding her without hesitation, without emotion and the father was even smiling while talking about it. That to me as a mom is so very strange, unsettling and unbelievable! Now I guess my day will be filled with watching whatever possible to get the details wrapped around the case.
John Ramsey had already lost one daughter to a car accident when this murder occurred. Sometimes people who experience this type of trauma more than once have a certain resignation to them. Also, by the time parents are presented to the media, they have been required to remake verbal and formal reports over and over, repeating absolutely horrific things l, until emotion is somewhat muted and numbed. The body literally can't stay at 100% emotion so it starts coping methods that result in less emotional response or appearance.
He has trauma toi and been told not to say anything by the Father ..Patsy too was forced to write that ransom note So easy for sociopaths to make others look in the opposite direction ..and therefore blame the innocent brother who might be suffering from Trauma from abuse ..likely too
Of course he got stuck. His little sister was murdered most horribly in her, and his own home. Could he ever feel safe again? His parents were accused of the murder and suffered terribly. Even he was suspected and had to go be questioned. They could not even live normally. Losing a family member at a young age is a terrible trauma, and his trauma was horrible. He has beautiful eyes, and like his sister and parents is extraordinarily good looking.
It would be extremely hard to understand what he has gone through at night. No one in the family would have killed he at Christmas.Brother was severely traumatize. You don’t get over it. My father died from an accident. It effects you more than you know. I was extremely close to my father. My life was never the same. I was just turning 13. He seem close to his sister. His whole life probably took a flash like mine did that my life would be gone. You just do the movements like you should do in life but that flash will take away a large part from that that you will never get away.
it's not uncomfortable smile. it's easy to differentiate the happy smile and uncomfortable smile, he wascalm from head to toe and his eyes shows happiness
Correct, he has always had issues. They had books in the house about how to deal with a difficult and aggressive child. He used to leave feces in JB's bed, on the walls and on her candy.
@@olskoolgapeachladykoolswag5384 of course, narcissict love to use people to their gain, but then they realized she was Happy and probably think "she has a future ahead with this" so they felt jelous, and kill her... They want to exploit her not to actually be popular, narcissict have a HUGE EGO, how how she scapegoat is popular? How is she loved by people? She doesnt deserve that! She is below US ! ... They probably torture her and ooops , they over did It , and since they are so full of themselves they thought they did a magnificent job "covering " the whole thing Up, narcissict arent smarter than other people, they just think they are, is their ego, and of course their lack of empathy that allows them to made Up the most absurt lies and go with that... Is stupid shows that make psychopaths ( a level Up type of narcissict) to look like they are genious or mega charming, OH NO they are not, most only mimic "cute and nice" behavior exposing themselves as weirdos... Like smiling in the incorrect moments, since they think that would make them look "nice and normal" end Up being plain creepy
So the note was written on their notepad, the strangulation device was made by rope and paint brushes from their home. It is ridiculous to think that the "intruder" would sit and write that 2 and a half pages long note or make that murder weapon like he has all the time in the world. Someone in this family or all of them were involved. Burke killed her and his parents protected him.
The Burke theory makes no sense. I think an intruder did it due to majority of the evidence pointing to an intruder, but even the theory that John or Patsy killed her makes more sense then Burke. The strangulation came first. There were marks on her neck that matched perfectly with her fingernails and showed that she tried to pull the rope away from her neck and try to save her own life. If the head injury came first, she would not have been able to do this. She would have been unconscious. If she somehow had any consciousness, she would have been in too much pain to move and wouldn't have had the strength to try and pull the rope away from her neck. Nine year olds are strong, but not strong enough to strangle her like how she was strangled, so there's no way he could have strangled her either. She was strangled by a grown man. The DNA also ruled out the entire family. It was found on her underwear, pajama pants, under her nails, and on other pieces of evidence that haven't been released yet. The DNA couldn't have come from a manufacturer because it was washed multiple times, were not from the same manufacturer, and were under her nails and on other pieces of unreleased evidence. There's no other way for the DNA to get there other than an intruder. There was also the unidentified hand print on the doorknob on the door left a jar by the basement cell grate and the unidentified palm print left by her body. The basement cell grate was disturbed, the window under it was opened with a scuff mark on the wall, and a suitcase was below the window with broken glass from the window on top of it. On the suitcase was a Hi-Tec footprint, and another also found by her body. The Ramseys did not own a stun-gun Fibers from the pajamas she wore that night and her hair were found inside that suitcase, which means she was in there sometime that night and was possibly almost transported outside of the house that night. She had stun-gun marks on her body too, and the Ramseys did not own a stun-gun. The rope used to strangle her was not found in the house, and neither was the duct tape that was on her mouth. On the duct tape on her mouth, there was fur from a beaver, and the Ramseys did not have any beaver fur in the house. The ransom note's handwriting also did not match Patsy or John's. Many people think Patsy's handwriting is very similar to the ransom note's, but the note had mistakes that couldn't be faked that did not match mistakes in Patsy's handwriting, meaning she couldn't have written it. I hope all of this changed your opinion on Burke and the Ramseys being guilty!
Not true At All. The public will Never get the True facts from all these a##wipe channel operators who repeat the false information whilst making up more Lies to draw in likes, for Money.
Did you notice how the first show Dr Phil was drilling him, then the 2nd show he was super apologetic? Did you know that Dr Phil and John Ramsey share the same attorney? It's all smoke and mirrors. The dad, much like Hollywood, is into weird, disgusting shit. www.opdeepstate.com/2017/12/10/jonbenet-ramsey-case-emerging-child-sex-ring-allegations/
Interview is chilling how can he smile so much during this serious interview. A smile is a smile & it extends to his eyes. The father & mother protected the son & staged the rest. They were already a family exploiting one pretty child & the elder child was simply jealous of the attention his sister got.
The Burke theory makes no sense. I think an intruder did it due to majority of the evidence pointing to an intruder, but even the theory that John or Patsy killed her makes more sense then Burke. The strangulation came first. There were marks on her neck that matched perfectly with her fingernails and showed that she tried to pull the rope away from her neck and try to save her own life. If the head injury came first, she would not have been able to do this. She would have been unconscious. If she somehow had any consciousness, she would have been in too much pain to move and wouldn't have had the strength to try and pull the rope away from her neck. Nine year olds are strong, but not strong enough to strangle her like how she was strangled, so there's no way he could have strangled her either. She was strangled by a grown man. The DNA also ruled out the entire family. It was found on her underwear, pajama pants, under her nails, and on other pieces of evidence that haven't been released yet. The DNA couldn't have come from a manufacturer because it was washed multiple times, were not from the same manufacturer, and were under her nails and on other pieces of unreleased evidence. There's no other way for the DNA to get there other than an intruder. There was also the unidentified hand print on the doorknob on the door left a jar by the basement cell grate and the unidentified palm print left by her body. The basement cell grate was disturbed, the window under it was opened with a scuff mark on the wall, and a suitcase was below the window with broken glass from the window on top of it. On the suitcase was a Hi-Tec footprint, and another also found by her body. The Ramseys did not own a stun-gun Fibers from the pajamas she wore that night and her hair were found inside that suitcase, which means she was in there sometime that night and was possibly almost transported outside of the house that night. She had stun-gun marks on her body too, and the Ramseys did not own a stun-gun. The rope used to strangle her was not found in the house, and neither was the duct tape that was on her mouth. On the duct tape on her mouth, there was fur from a beaver, and the Ramseys did not have any beaver fur in the house. The ransom note's handwriting also did not match Patsy or John's. Many people think Patsy's handwriting is very similar to the ransom note's, but the note had mistakes that couldn't be faked that did not match mistakes in Patsy's handwriting, meaning she couldn't have written it. I hope all of this changed your opinion on Burke and the Ramseys being guilty!
The note was written with the family’s own pen, and the note is damn long. Can you imagine the murderer just leaving the body in the basement and then sitting somewhere in the house writing a freaking letter This murder was 100% committed by someone in the family
It is so uncomfortable to see him smiling while talking about his DEAD sister. Edited: I am no trauma or body language expert, and I believe so do you. I am simply stating the obvious from this clip how I felt. Be respectful to one another in the comment below 👇everyone are entitled for their own feelings and opinion. I hope one day there will be justice for this beautiful young soul, JonBenet.
Farah Amirah Faisal remember this was 20 years ago and everyone deals with uncomfortable situations differently. People do laugh during funerals not because they’re chill it’s just a reaction some people have to sad or uncomfortable situations
is it just me or at 0:36 the wide open smile while saying "i wont see her again" is soo eerily creepy..like its some sort of satisfaction he has that she was finally gone
@Mlopesfornow do you know that kids kill their own siblings or are you living in a box, search 9 year old murderers you'll get plenty of names pop up on Google.
@@kendraallegragile6124 don’t we all.. don’t we all. I don’t know I’ve watched plenty of dateline and 48 hours to know that 99% of people who commit these crimes are caught. If it was some random intruder I would strongly think they would’ve been captured by now. They fact that it hasn’t happened makes me think it was one of the 3 people already in the house.
Non Performance of Duty & Widespread Corruption in the Boulder Police Department: -It is a well established fact that the entire Boulder Police Department is corrupt and have been covering up for over 26 years now regarding the Ramsey Case.... What they swept under the rug and wanted to go away forever, has come back to haunt them.... Technology was moving faster than the cover-up planned on.... It is painfully and sadly obvious that BPD does not want this case solved.... -Idaho stabbing murder suspect was identified in 17 days using Genetic Genealogy.... Boulder PD has run out of excuses, and we are forcing them to play their cards.... This is only the beginning of this campaign.... -BPD Commander Thomas Trujillo was in charge of the Ramsey case and was recently reprimanded for Police Misconduct for not doing any work on the case since 2019.... Punishment: 3 days no pay.... Is this all a joke to you...? Legally that is Non-Performance of Duty under the Code of Conduct for Law Enforcement Officials in Colorado.... You took an oath to uphold Justice, now show it, or we will...! And that goes for everybody at the BPD, the District Attorney's Office, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, Governor Polis, Mayor Brockett and D.A. Michael Dougherty....! -We are done playing games....! If you think we are gonna sit around and wait another 26 years for you to solve the case, than you must think we are all dumb....! JonBenet Ramsey and her family deserve better than this.... Hand the case and the evidence over to real professionals and make things right...! We are not going away....! The STORY of ST. NICK & The JONBENET RAMSEY Murder Investigation.... -Nick Wolf Murdered that innocent little Boulder girl, and I bet you never even heard his name.... He is 79 yrs old and living his best life.... -Lou Smit & Ollie Gray (RIP) had Nick high up on their possible suspects list.... That should tell you enough.... -After you read the truth, please help by SHARING.... JonBenet and her family deserve Justice...! justiceforjonbenetramsey.blogspot.com/2023/01/st-nick-theory-jonbenet-ramsey-murder.html
Whoever wrote the note knew almost the exact amount of the bonus the father received; that person also used a weird reference, saying "we are a foreign faction." The first is completely consistent with the killer being a family insider, and the second indicates a juvenile mental state. I've always thought the brother was #1 on the list, and still do
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. *Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.* The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolfe lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. *NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
@@bee-sting To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright. FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
My god, so wrong, but so sure you’re right. I’d have to write as long a reply as your comment to refute all of your nonsense. Let’s talk about the note. Wow, the “experts” that they paid said what they wanted them to… Did you know patsy was ambidextrous but hid that fact from investigators? There is clear indication that the author of the note attempted to conceal their identity (change letters, etc) why would anyone but a family member bother to do that? “Hence” and “Victory” to words that patsy regularly used show up in the note. Last, 118k the exact amount of johns bonus that nobody else knew about… There is just as much wrong with the dna “evidence” and zero evidence of an intruder…. Ther are dozens of things that point to the parents,,,one that always bothers me. As the deadline for the kidnapper call came and went at 10AM, John browsed through his mail and patsy was oblivious. Think about how you would react, they knew there was no phone call coming…most likely the brother caused her death and the parents covered it up to save him.
Odd thing for him to say. If an intruder did it, and they found DNA evidence on the underwear (that wasn't from manufacturing), it's not beyond reason that it could potentially be a future DNA match if the perpetrator commits another crime. It's almost as if he knows something we don't!
He's simply making an assumption, which after decades has been proven true. There is no evidence whatsoever that he had anything to do with her death, and his DNA does not match his sister's killer. I know there's always a belief that the "weird" guy is the killer, but simply being "weird" doesn't make a person a killer.
@@chad3232132 the note that was written. Im sure the detectives compared hand writing that was written from everyone in the family with the notes that they found or did they think of that. Im sure they looked it over and over but comparing to older not newer handwritungs from family to where one could finagle how they draw a t or an a and all. And the brother being that young cpuldnt have covered every track unless his favorite subjects is mystery murder books or detective shows ect. Lot could have been learned. He did act weird. But so didnt the father. His micro expressions read funny something to me.
mightytaiger 😢 YOU SURE SAID THAT RIGHT!! PLUS, ANY MOTHER, THAT WOULD PAY THAT MUCH ATTENTION, TO ONE CHILD, IS SO VERY SAD....! HAVE 2, CHILDREN, GIRL & BOY AND I LOVE THEM BOTH, SO MUCH, AND DID LOT'S OF THING'S WITH BOTH OF THEM..... I BET HE HURT ALOT, WHEN HE WAS LITTLE, BECAUSE HIS MOTHER PAID SO MUCH MORE, ATTENTION TO HER, THEN HIM. DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING, ABOUT WHAT SHE DID WITH HIM. LIKE PIANO, KARATE, OR ANYTHING... BUT, WE SURE DID HEAR ABOUT HIM HITTING, HIS LITTLE SISTER, & ETC.... SO SAD....😢
What does that have to do with anything? And pervs and child molesters are going to get off on kids whether they're wearing kids clothes or a pageant dress. That's kind of just the nature of being sick and into kids.
I think it was Burke who hit her over the head with a flash light or something hard. The "train room" was in the basement and I think they were playing with his new train toy he had gotten and which John Ramsey admitted to helping him put together. It is really strange that not many reports are out there of this, but you can check yourself. There was a "train room" in the basement and it was right next to the room Jonbenet was found in. So, I think Burke got a little rough and killed her (not by intention) and then the parents covered it up by putting the garrote around her neck (I think John did this , since he was in the military and Patsy wrote the note)
To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright. FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
Firstly, it was about 9.30 - 10 p.m., at Night. JB was sound asleep in her bed. John did Not 'admit' that, At All. After laying JB on her bed, John went back downstairs to get Burke to bed & he was putting a toy together that he got for Xmas. That toy was a multi car garage for his toy cars. John helped him do that for about 15 - 20 minutes then took Burke up to his room & helped him get changed for bed then went to bed himself. They had to get up very early the next morning because they were to hop on their plane for the trip to their holiday house in Charlevoix. Hopefully you have read the Truth of what Actually happened to this little girl & hopefully you will Learn not to take as Gospel, what you see on TV shows.
No intruder was going to write a 3 page ransom note IN THE HOUSE while doing the kidnapping. And that house is huge and it was full of xmas decoration, so no signs of struggle? and the "random" person knew exactly where she was sleeping? oh please
@@princesarainah3518 it’s not that it makes it okay it just explains it. Autistic people can’t maie eye contact and they don’t react and have the same emotions as us. It explains why he smiles so much. It’s not sus but I do think he probably did it but smiling isn’t a reason since he’s autistic
@@birdie7910 Autism does not equal smiles over a cruelly murfered little sis. Autistic kids actually feel everything acutely . They tend to appear to have no feelings.
DirtyLittleRocker Baby Also from the police. The Police have been trying to get another interview from him for years. he refused to talk. James Kolar who was lead on this case at the time tried to push for another grand jury just so it would false Burke to talk.
I guess anyone would have to go through this kind of tragedy before before anyone else could truly feel the pain and loss and more importantly know how to deal with it. So so sad
Absolutely, It's Easy to Monday Morning Quarterback, But None of us Actually Know What We Would Actually Do If In Their Situation (As an Innocent Family) !!!
@hauha its vicarious trauma. that's when you're indirectly impacted by something that happens to somebody else, like witnessing a crime or something happening to someone close to you.
Natalie Sanders I noticed the same thing. He dropped his eyes when asked if he killed her. Good eye Natalie.... Definite the body language of a lie. Or at least a partial lie. I wonder if he ever took a lie detector test. Sometimes they deliver a false negative because people are upset about the loss of a loved one, That their answers appear to be lies when they are actually the truth.However I’d really be interested in the results if he was given one now!
That doesnt mean hes lying, it means hes deflecting from thinking about his sister being brutally injured. Almost like a wince from pain. Also DNA doesnt lie.
OMG!!!! You people have had it explained to you by Dr. Phil AND on this video, too that Burke was NOT smiling, as in a happy smile. He's shy and he was uncomfortable. OR, are you just looking for some way to criticize this young man????
I was in a very uncomfortable situation and was smiling. I wasn't happy, in fact I wanted to cry and run out of the room. I was smiling but my internal emotions were quite different than what was written on my face. It was involuntary and uncontrollable
@@Ben.N So according to your scholarly opinion, autism is something that can be "seen"? Interesting. (Please, don't use words or terms you don't understand at all...)
ArduinoBen also, burke was KNOWN to smear feces on the wall, which my autistic cousins were know to do. there are many signs pointing to autism, which would explain the smiling and seemingly uncomfortable facial expressions.
The father looks like a typical psychopath. That shallow charm, being so calm with an empty gaze and smiling all the time. If a stranger did this to his daughter he should have been a broken man. Not the charming smiling psycho that he is.
Liz 25 how would your react if people are making these comments about you? I’ll bet the same. Society is unfair to people that find themselves in situations like this. He was just a child himself. He has NEVER been charged and won’t be. So leave him alone.
Robin Luich and dad. I still think it was a cult thing. A party at the house, girl gets taken to the basement, sexually abused, and murdered? Like the investigators said “why the exact amount of money for the ransom equal to the amount dad was gonna get paid out from work?”,
Yep, totally agree. She was a circus animal and a trophy object that narcissistic Patsy fixated on and lived through. Totally weird. They also covered up the fact their kid had Autism - probably embarrassed - that is BAD parenting.
I think he was jealous of his sister and he killed her and the parents found her and told him never ever tell anyone what he did and they covered up for him
Sometimes Dr Phil is to cocky!! Sometimes he's mean when he should be more compassionate. I like Dr Phil but sometimes he needs to hug people and say its going to be ok.
Dr Phil was a licensed psychologist but gave up his license in 2006. He has a doctorate in philosophy and was a licensed psych doc; also studying Forensic Science/Psychology. Some think that he is too cocky at times to be a Psychologist but intonation (In linguistics, is variation in spoken pitch when used, not for distinguishing words as sememes (a concept known as tone), but, rather, for a range of other functions such as indicating the attitudes and emotions of the speaker, signalling the difference between statements and questions, and between different types of questions, focusing attention on important elements of the spoken message and also helping to regulate conversational interaction.) sometimes requires this in his interviews to gather the truth from people. He has helped many people get their lives back but only if those who he assist is committed to doing so.
It had nothing to do with sex. I'm not a fan of the whole Beauty Pageant thing in general, less so for little girls, but that angle was not supported by the evidence. Brother did it because be is a psychopath. Parents covered it up.
StAr GiRl he's probably extremely traumatized. Even HE has been through a lot. You would probably be mentally disturbed too if you went through all the trauma and uncomfortable attention your whole life.
He did it, I'm sure. But his parents did everything to cover it up. They should all go to death row. Murder never expires. And what's with the constant smile on that psycho's face?
@@Sammy-mp9xn For those with a totally biased attitude about a case that you know Nothing about, everything single thing this family said, was suspicious. Yawn.
Alfat H i think she was a pawn,the fame she brought her family,her mom was definately vicariously living through her by throwing her into the overtly sexualised pagaent world.
It’s so obvious that Burke did it, and the parents covered it up. Even the CBS documentary that Burke sued over says that Burke did it, and they still to this day say he did it.
To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright. FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
Everyone else has a theory so here is mine. Someone was SA that little girl and maybe she screamed or said she was going to tell. This person hit her trying to keep her quiet.The cord around her neck was to make sure she was dead... She was put in the basement and the story was made up with a ransom note. No one was expecting them to start searching in the rooms off of the basement because she was supposed to be missing not dead.. once the dad and the other guy were downstairs he wanted it to look as a shock to him finding her.
Honestly, as an English person, where Beauty Pageants are not a thing, it's bordering on harressment and creepy. It's weird and creepy and having adults judge little kids on how pretty they are is a recipe for disaster.