Jordan Peterson Critique | Philosophical Genius? 

His ability to convey concepts and arguments in an understandable manner makes him so incredible to listen to.

Yeah I agree with that it was a great analysis that made me think!

Well put !

@@An-fi8is You haven't had many professors if you're still that impressed by them.

@@johnwinthrop2702 It made you evaluate his "thinking" as if your own. That is the danger of not thinking for yourself.

Have you heard akira the don's lofi mixes using his clips? Great stuff. I'm glad to hear the wise words helped you along. He gives great life advice.

Dr. Peterson has helped me so much since the births of my daughters. To parent them in a practical and logical way. I know it’s not his focus but his advice on parenting and responsibility has been priceless. My youngest daughter is autistic and having his words to listen to have been so helpful. Many parents get into the mindset of the world having to change to allow for asd kids, but then many have grown up so entitled. My daughter is 6 and I’m certain without listening to him we would still be co sleeping and she would only eat chicken nuggets and fries!

Well done to you. I’m using his videos to help me understand my issues and motivate me to make changes.

Lynda Burn if anyone can I really believe it’s him.

Watch Academy of Ideas.

Ditto!

I agree, well said

Social satirists Irma Bombeck and Art Buckwald identified the source of humor as anger. Early in his career Mark Twain identified the source of humor as anger. Near the end of his career he identified the source as pain. (I've been told by psychiatrists that behind anger is fear. I ask, "Fear of what?" I answer, "Fear of pain.")

I second that!

You should see his latest video on Meghan Markle. He definitely is a hypocrite now

Great comment !

I am a board certified psychologist and I can certify that he knows a lot about Jung,Freud..etc..he has read many a book.he makes mistakes as everyone does and, sometimes he overthinks basic concepts but he is a well read individual with a high IQ..most of the times he knows what he is talking about..

@@VicBlank-qy9ccI suppose he’s probably smarter than me. I’m just a work horse.

Yeah he's an interesting anomaly when it comes to communication. On one hand he is exceedingly passionate and eloquent but on the other he goes off on unnecessary tangents and overcomplicates the subject matter. I find that his speech can lack clarity of thought and that he is guilty of using word salad every now and then.

Of course he was interested in hearing how he helped her, of course he was humble and kind… she didn’t challenge his views..

@@judethaddeus9856 Or he could simply be pleased that someone found his work helpful. Some people actually have an interest in helping others instead of merely being seen to help others, and spouting trendy slogans on social media. If you think the people he tries to help aren't deserving of it, that really says more about you than he.

@@judethaddeus9856 you haven’t reviewed his less hostile discussions. Or your incapable of forming an independent opinion of him without political polarization influences.

@@TheDiverJim what your comment just embodied is the Best we can ever hope for as a direct result of capitalism!

@@michaelvance1118 what does capitalism have to do with my comment? Thanks for the compliment, just confused by it.

Hahahahhahaha wth

this is 2 good XD top comment for sure

Too good 😀

Man the hunter favors blue/green those being optimal hunting conditions. Women choose red/pink because those are the targets of a gatherer. That is wired into our DNA. Very few deviations. Lobsters

Well, that depends on what you mean by "what." In fact, we cannot define anything. That is all. Well, that isn't actually that...at all. Wait.... Falls into a black hole.

Jordan Peterson makes everything so simplified when not everything is so simplistic.He talks in circles, & if that does it for ya,God bless you.

I see people say this a lot, and I believe them, but it's kind of irrelevant to whether or not Peterson is actually insightful in any way. Many people find Islam in prison and it genuinely makes them much better people, it's still a fictional immoral religion though. Much like Petersons advice might actually do something for you, but it's still kind of a pile of bullshit.

@@johnroop9625 What so hard about cleaning your room? People like you like to criticize for the sake of judging someone. Peterson has helped millions of people, how many people have you helped?

@@PC4ever possible rebuttals to your comment: 1. How many lives has Peterson damaged, destroyed, insult, steamrolled and just afflicted with psychological stress severe enough to cause sequela? 2. You said helped, what do you consider helped to entail? As a psychologist he knows about “reckless help”. Has he helped you? Why respond to a comment expressing their freedom of opinion and they weren’t even mean; but did you help with the personal offense you feel on his behalf? 3. Obviously suffering brain insults during his russian medically induced coma is nothing related to intelligence but what about his whining?

Yep, same here.

Excellent observation and great comment! It’s funny as I went through boot camp way back in 1996 and that’s one of those things getting drilled into you with the recruit division commanders screaming this at you for around nine weeks, they’d say “stand up tall, shoulders back, head up straight, stand proud.” or something very similar (they’d all say the same thing albeit with slight variations). You’re very right about it working as I really did mature a lot that year. I saw first hand how it helped many others that did not have the same level of confidence that I had.

@@jayrose6312 Thank you for sharing that! Great point, that the military pounds this into people... The little things can be the big things.

​@@Jimvesterstallone You are very welcome! Another thing I remembered after you replied was the level of mind games they would play with your head if only to see if you’ll break under pressure and don’t belong in the military. They do this because it’s a lot cheaper to send someone back home during recruit training than to spend countless dollars on them and their training just to have that person ‘break down’ later on, especially if that person’s ‘break down’ is in a combat zone! I’d estimate that we lost up to 20% of our division that first week! As the first week just prepares you for the training ahead (getting gear assigned, signing forms, drug test, medical & dental checkups, etc.) they repeatedly ask “who doesn’t want to be here? It’s much easier if you tell us now before you get assigned to a division [and start training!]” They want you to tell them as it only cost Uncle Sam a few bucks mostly on logistics at this point, e.g. hotels, airfare, and the like. They also ask you this on very little sleep and try to keep you awake! Now, I dunno your background on this, but kids that suffer extreme child abuse will mostly come out psychologically ‘broken’ themselves, but some (a MUCH smaller number) will thrive and come out stronger. Sadly, I came from a very abusive home and when I tell people what I actually haven’t repressed you could see the looks of disgust on their faces! I’m an open book regarding this, however the details are not relevant right now. What is relevant is the fact that I fortunately came out ‘emotionally scarred,’ but with a will that’s far stronger than many will ever have. I was not going to allow the pattern to repeat! I was also going to be the polar opposite of the ‘white trash’ who ‘raised’ me, and I guess a few accomplishments of mine did prove this if only to myself! Here’s my point (more of a theory, actually), confidence in general, without the cockiness, and regardless how one arrived to have a generally high level of confidence, will foster (a) Being immune to others who attempt to be emotionally hurtful to you, directly proportionate to the level of confidence. One who’s truly confident doesn’t ‘compete’ with others, but rather themselves exclusively. They also could care less regarding the negative, hurtful statements made my others. (b) One’s will, e.g. not giving up, is also directly proportionate to their level of confidence. And, finally (c) It doesn’t matter where or how this level of confidence was obtained or cultivated, only the fact that it’s actually “true” confidence (rather than narcissism, grandiosity, cockiness, etc.) Sometimes, which you’ll soon clearly see, extremely negative events could segue into positive events on the same ‘level.’ One final story to tie this altogether, and I know this is long, so I’ll try to be quick: While in boot camp, I don’t exactly remember what I did, but it was a relatively minor infraction, and there are a lot of those, so it’s not unusual. Many times, the recruit division commanders will have you “make it rain” as a form of punishment. Making it rain is having you do very quick exercises in full uniform for an extended length of time while commands and sometimes insults are yelled at you. So, I started to hit the deck and do push-ups, sit-ups, etc. - back up on me feet and do jumping jacks, running in place, etc. - rinse and repeat - as each command was called out. As I was in the best shape of my life, I was actually enjoying the workout, and he saw the ‘smile’ I had on, so he called over another recruit division commander to “join in the fun.” By the time ‘THEY were done,’ there were three of them yelling at me. Over an hour past and I was still going strong. Finally, I heard the words “stop, on your feet!” The recruit division commander finally asked “so, Rose, what the hell is it going to take to break you?!” With a smile, I simply said “You can’t. I’m sorry, but that’s just not possible.” He was so frustrated as he didn’t know what to even say to that, so I shrugged, and obviously defeated, he said “go back to everyone in the division, we’re through here.” I know one thing for damn sure, I earned his respect and the respect of a few of his peers that evening as the recruit division commanders were talking about me and this event. I don’t think I even spoke about it much thereafter, I really didn’t care one way or another about the event. The thing is, and this question could be perceived as if only bordering philosophical: If I didn’t face over a decade of various of types of quite literally heinous abuse, and had the mental strength to somehow not only survive, but walk away rather positively thereafter (which was a miracle according to numerous psychologists, therapists, etc., that I’ve seen), would the events of that evening have transpired any different?! I would go with a definite “abso-effing-lutely!!!” (read: Yes!) Feel free to ‘chime in’ with any thoughts, and again, thanks for reading this as I know it was a lot to digest!

@Calm in the Storm - I think many people view him that way, while I think he's really the culmination of adult voices most just didn't listen to while growing up and now find that advice so profound when put into the mouth of one man.

@@Malt454 I grew up, from about 6, reading, and reading, and reading. Born in 1948 -- do the math -- at my age I'm not much impressed by any so-called 'intellectuals" -- which isn't by itself the whole person. Better to read Socrates: he teaches how to THINK CRITICALLY.

Pattern recognition is the crux of human cognition.

@@davidbudo5551 ...and the foundation of several cognitive fallacies.

Great comment and analysis of the speaker! So true, look for patterns of behaviour.

@@davidbudo5551 i agree. Pattern recognition is why Artificial intelligence and machine learning are so dangerous to our society (when in the wrong hands).

When I look at Petersons patterns he seems slightly arrogant (as most smart individuals tend to be) and also not high in openness.

Well said.

I couldn't have put it in better words. Completely agree with you.

Great take.

@ Sandra Young Hall Who are you talking about?

Very well said. I also appreciate your ability to admit when you are wrong. A rare trait in today's world. If you don't mind a question, do you still consider yourself to be a feminist after listening to Jordan Peterson or has that changed somewhat? Even if ever so slightly?

Schizophrenic REACTS 😂 True....but, he has a point.

That's what makes him so interesting. He's ahead of the curve.

@@ML-qs3tf Spot on.

@@TheEternalOuroboros He misrepresented his free speech start. He is just another reactionary when he goes out of the psychology field.

@@chokinonashes61 Outside of his professional field, he seems like a typical waterboy for the neoliberal globalist empire to me...not exactly what one thinks of as a "reactionary." He's generally going very much "with the Establishment flow" in most every area but free speech and his recognition of some of the (generally ignored, ridiculed, or minimized) existential problems bedeviling young men today.

Jim Grasso “a lawyer who has himself for a lawyer has a fool for a client.” I suppose it would apply in a critique of oneself...too close to the problem.

Jim Grasso I’m sure the good doctor uses meta cognition all the time. I’m sure he is his own critic frequently. I’d hazard to guess that he knows himself better than the vast majority of us know ourselves. Still, a self critique my him would be interesting.

Do himself!

That's something I believe we all could do. It helps to understand why we might have the world view we have. A careful analysis could reveal blind spots.

Specially after defending Bill Gates in the Covid 19 video

He is referring to the DSM criteria though - it is very clear. Maybe JP advocates for a change to the criteria. I am not going to copy and paste the criteria here but by definition, a person can't.

@@bethbeth5122 I have CPTSD. Yes I know there isn't a diagnosis stating specifically the C in the DSM. It just means it is chronic. I feel like PTSD is the latest buzz word that people attach themselves to. Like bipolar was a few years ago. Unfortunately I have that too. I don't know when mental illness became fashionable but if someone really has it, it can be crippling. PTSD attacks cause me to be extremely anxious, hypervigilant even in my home, panic attacks that are so severe I cannot breathe or talk, fight or flight (usually flight). I've got so many alarms my house has been named Fort Knox by my sister. Those are but a few symptoms. I would not wish true PTSD on anyone.

Exactly!!

Yep, maybe you might be right about most of this, especially if you are male. However, his views on women are skewed. He basically thinks all women should marry and have kids...that if they don’t, they have no purpose on earth and will be miserable in their golden years. A single female artist, musician, investment banker, teacher, surgeon, etc., who remains childless ( and unmarried ) by choice, does not compute for him. So, he’s a “No” in my book.

@@kellyyork3898 Okay. But I will say,, independent of anything he has said (and I’ve never heard him on that topic, or can’t recall anyway), I think loving others is the main purpose for everyone, and if we aren’t living a loving/giving life in some manner, then there will always be some hole in us. This aligns beautifully with the existential human purpose of procreation. I’m a male in my 50s, not married and have no kids, and I do feel the hole in my life. I realize this need to serve and help others, so I part-time volunteer teach, largely because I don’t have a wife and children of my own to serve (though I do have a very large extended family). Of course all marriages and families are not perfect, but when I contemplate that ability to bring life into the world it truly gives me a sense of awe. And the role of a mother is amazing. And the role of parents of course is far far more than just to physically bring life, but it’s to love that person and have the responsibility to help that person develop into a loving soul who will bring love into the world themselves. I don’t denigrate anything you say about valuing work and the contributions we can make to the world by applying ourselves to these endeavors, these things can indeed be good… but I have such an elevated opinion about the role of parents in raising children - both the mother and father - and I think this is the normative standard, the main way that most people (but not all) will find their ultimate greatest value in life. For me at this time, I have to find my value in being a good and fair leader in my job, a good son to my 91 year old dad, a good brother, a good uncle, a good friend, a good teacher, and a caring and patient person to all I come in contact with (all this is easier said than done of course).

His drive to help people? Bro, I am trans. I don't think Petseron has any intention of helping me lmao

@@joeterp5615 You want to find value in being "good" and I applaud that but please try and find value in simply "being"...by this I mean, explore your responses to the stars, the sun, Nature, people you meet, books your read, the five senses that delight you and the purpose your soul may find in silence. There is so much joy in simply being a part of this great experiment we call life that it cannot and must not be contained in a set of rules...ironically twelve! You know the correlation I'm sure. Love yourself and give love where you may.

Jordan peterson sues his critics and insults them regularly. He has almost no knowledge of philosophy but speaks about it dogmatically and without any real direction. Hes a moron, as are the people who listen to him

Especially when they are looking at credentials and published papers. One of the funniest retorts I receive constantly is, “What is your degree in?” As if that matters to the topic at hand. If I said something wrong, correct me. If I said something that SOUNDS wrong, then study the topic more yourself. Asking for credentials is pure Ad Hominem coming from people who think insults are “ad hominem.” 😂

@@lawtruth3872 It is his real hair. It is just receding.

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I think if people lose a relationship it can definitely bring on ptsd. He may not have elaborated but the partner may have been abusive or the break up could trigger pre existing issues. There can also be psycho social dynamics around the break up due to a smear campaign and social abuses they can be very crazy making. The partner may have been an addict which can cause a nervous breakdown. The person may take a deeper look at self and family and friends and coke to awareness that is shattering. So perhaps a break up could be one aspect of a more global issue that shatters or devastates. Having a partner die can be the most stressful event in a persons life and a ptsd diagnosis is often quite accurate in that situation. Being rejected or abandoned can be quite a trigger with a ptsd issue that already exists on some level. No one said the symptoms weren’t there. He simply did not elaborate.

most people go over the fact that he has (co)authored over a 100 academic papers way too easily.

I love Dr. Peterson's psychological works and his university lectures, that I find very thought-provoking. His political "activism" so to say is very weird to say the least, though.

Oh like when he told millions of people thier transphobia was justified thus adding more stochastic terrorism to innocent lgbt people.. what a cool guy.

@@Onus6688 saying a fear of something is understandable doesn’t excuse the irrationality of that fear. Understanding where your fears are based however can help you work through them. Jesus never condemned anyone but people have been condemning and killing in his name. Some people will find any reason or cause for violence. All people deserve respect and love and the peace to live their life as they see fit as long as they aren’t hurting anyone.

Jordan Peterson is a narcissist

I’m sure Dr Grande would both dislike and appreciate a similar evaluation of himself, possibly from Dr. Peterson. I strongly believe Dr. Peterson could set aside his own evaluation and use his not insignificant insight and intelligence to make a very fair evaluation. In both cases they would likely have errors, but at least they would be well reasoned and fair. (As fair and reasoned as we could hope).

@@john-paulsilke893 Love that idea!

Agree!

@@7LegSpiders I’m pretty sure Dr Peterson may have his feelings hurt, (he’s very sensitive) but he’s also a tough guy and has suffered far worse slings and arrows. And furthermore both of these men might learn more about themselves in such an endeavour then they would learn about each other. Unfortunately it may actually go over our heads unless they’d dumb it down, (I’m only peripherally knowledgeable on some of psychology as are most of the viewers/commenters so ideally they would keep it more mundane, which does risk slight inaccuracies for our sakes).

Difficult topics? The only reason the topics are difficult, is that you are trying to accommodate (and possibly obey) the leftist lunacy that is plaguing our culture.

Most of his audience is male but you're right, it's for everyone

I noticed that immediately as well.

Why would I want to live like him

I get what you're saying, and you're not wrong either, but the demographic that is the majority of his followers are young men. So to extrapolate that to say it's for men isn't entirely wrong. As at the very least, something he is doing is catering for men more than other groups and if there was a product that was used predominantly by men, even if it wasn't exclusively marketed towards them, we'd be inclined to perceive it as 'for men'

@@Guppyg53 your IQ is too small to resemble Dr Peterson so even if you did want to live like him you simply couldn't.

So in reality you're one of the people that has actually treated him as a Messiah of all topics considering what you said "I love Jordan Peterson because he made me think about some things from a different perspective. Hearing interesting advice about some things I've never considered can be intoxicating to me personally. " You're one of those people that experiences something and then calls others out on that which you are also doing and makes it as if that's not something youre a part of but what's really going on here is you actually understand those people and have noticed that because you are one of those people.

@@Tolbat "You're one of those people that experiences something and then calls others out on that which you are also doing and makes it as if that's not something youre a part of but what's really going on here is you actually understand those people and have noticed that because you are one of those people" lol yeah it's almost as if people can make mistakes through experience, learn from them, and then give reasonable advice to other people on how to have a more productive, realistic perspective. You know, the kind of thing that leads to improvement, unlike your comment which solely exists to smear and tear down people like an insecure douchebag

@@brandonrox10 Sure. Like when he said that Trump was smart.

@@andnowwevibe270 But he's not owning the fact he is one of those people, he is pretending he is not....yea real helpful...How about be honest so people can really relate to you and absorb your advice?

@@Tolbat There's literally no empirical or logically sound reason to assume the OP sees JP as an infallible genius on all topics. On no planet does 'He made me see some things from a different perspective' translate to 'I think he's right and well researched about everything'. You made a massive logical leap to get there, also known as an assumption. Can only imagine why Secondly the OP made a recommendation of good form: to not just assume that everything someone says is true because they have a reputation as an intellectual. Your post is just pure ad hominem based on a nonsensical logical leap. More than likely you just needed your boost of narcissistic supply to make it through the day

Thank you so much!

English Teacher you can tell it's unbiased by the title alone

Marcus, yes, this is an excellent video.

Agreed

in a perfect world this is what criticism would look and sound like. Couldn't find a single ad hominem!

... in contrast to how some may be positioning him (even he himself, at certain times and topics). Yes.

Who's perfect anyway?

@@constantchange you are 😘

@@syn8666 nope 🙂 it's nice to be considered as perfect, but it's a burden as well. Let's try to be close to perfect, but never perfect and let's love others for being this way 🙌🏻

Who is?

He is a man, not a devil.

​@@lucaswilhelmmeyer6943 if you like thinkers who don't defend pre-held beliefs, then maybe you should find a guy who doesn't believe in god or racial IQ science? Because those have been around for awhile, and they're definitely "beliefs," not facts based on the science.

@@d.m.collins1501 It’s not Nike Peterson had made a particularly big deal out of what his religious beliefs may be , and frankly it’s not like Athieism has proven immune to ideological preconceptions either. And has he particularly “defended racial IQ science”? How?

Well you should see his talk with Sam Harris. That's very interesting

@@cainemangakahia4842 he hasn't defended racial IQ. He used the fact that if you see the people who come into the extreme ends of top IQ range, are dominated by Jews (statistics), and used that to make the point against equity.

What's an example of something you have a hard time following? I have never felt this way listening to JP, but it certainly helps if you are a bit knowledgeable in the areas he's covering

@@tyson6857 I don't have a particular example off the top of my head as I haven't listened to him for a while. I do have a degree in Psychology and have continued to read and consume psychology content after graduating (basically over 20 years of interest/ study in a wide range of areas)... this isn't an "appeal to authority" this is just me saying I do have more knowledge in the area than most.

@@rc198028 JP draws parallels across a multitude of fields, so if one has gaps in their knowledge, for example in mythology, while JP very quickly connects and arranges different dots, it probably is understandable that one could get lost.

🐷 no he is merely a canary in a coalmine and brave for spreading truth

It's literally 100% subjective.

@@unitedfools3493 And Jordan Peterson isn't? How much of "psychology" is "science," and how much "social science"?

@@jnagarya519 It is 100% social science. The question is "how scientific is social science?". Dr. Peterson quotes extensive studies that show that men and women differ in preferences and that these differences produce unequal outcomes in the percent of men and women in nursing vs. engineering. This seems to me to be science, though not as rigorous as testing theories of physics. He has also stated that IQ and success in life are highly correlated. He quotes the correlation coefficients. This sounds like science, but again, not as rigorous as physics or chemistry. But certainly not 100% subjective or anything close to it.

This critique is worth a flunking grade on an undergraduate paper as far as I am concerned. If some student handed it to me, I would give him or her a failing grade and a sharp note that he or she was being so mentally lazy that I suspect they're not the sort that should bother taking up space in a university. Anyone who thinks this is any kind of credible critique simply does not have the level of critical thinking skills of a smart high schooler student.

@@vancouverterry9142 the irony is palpable

@@MrMalkraz Ha Ha...

@@vancouverterry9142 you should examine your personal bias. A teacher such as you should not bother taking up space in a university.

​@@An-fi8is Don't try to pretend or sound like you're a competent thinker because you're obviously not -- WAKE UP and try to learn how to use your brains. People need WAKE UP calls sometimes. Your comment indicates that your standards are pathetically low, and your expectations of yourself are pathetic and self-fulfilling. WAKE UP AND START USING YOUR BRAINS. Maybe start by reading "The Dumbest Generation" by Max Bauerlein. And check out the RU-vid videos by Richard Arum. If you've got the brains to take in and consider some data and competent reasoning, you'll be able to WAKE UP to how PATHETICALLY LOW your standards are in making your pathetically-vacuous comment, and hopefully that'll inspire you to try to learn how to think.

I am sorry for your loss.

@@constancemccoy6931 thank you, kind words. 😊

​@@LenticloudularHealthy people don't break up in this manner. Your ex might have suffered from narcissistic personality disorder. Your breakup sounds like a classic Narcissist discard. I'm very sorry for your loss. ❤

@@Eagles.Fan.Since.Super.Bowl.52 I agree with you. Narcissistic personality disorder = asshole, eh? With retrospect I saw that. Thank to for your kind words. The person I mourn was an angel. ❤️😇

At times, that's what happens when you listen to a college graduate level work in any field of study. Listen (or read) more than once is what I tell my gifted high school students while studying Physics.

I don't know. At first I was captivated by Dr. P. Then, as I watched more and more lectures of his, I started to question his motiffs more and more often. When asked about certain topics, he seems to be deliberately disingenuine. Other times he ommits certain crucial facts or is incredibly uncharitable when speaking about his political opponents. I still attributed it all to his flawed human nature, but the deal-breaker was probably actually reading his work. It was far from what I expected it to be: unprofessional, sloppy and outright dumb at some points. I still appreciate the fact that he seems to be helping people (precisely young men), but other than that, I don't have much admiration for him.

I sooo agree Marijana! He is an exceptionally genuine and kind man. I pray for him often.

@@MrKosobi Your loss, IMHO. Why are you imputing motives rather than considering the message?

@Rick Lane {{Citation needed|date=July 2020}} :-(

@Rick Lane Really classy, "Lobsterson" doesn't detract from your supposed points at all, Rick Lame.

You know something, there’s a lot of beauty in simplicity. To me, it’s actually a selling point. He Lays out things he considers to be irrefutable truth in all their starkness for all the world to see; naked truth, by God.

Well stated

Exactly.

I bought the book and I'm reading it right now. I passed it several times because of that, but I can almost assure you, when you read it, it's not like anything you expect. It's amazing and FULL with scientific evidence/information that can make your head spin, actually questioning the points that he makes. I really suggest the reading, it's for everybody (even women, for that matter). The rules themselves seems tongue in the cheek and very simplistic, but they're just a "hook" to get you in, in very important topics that describes the nature of our behaviour and how we can surpass through work and diligence our inadequacies. It's in my top 5, and I've read MANY books. If anything, I suggest you guys read it online, even if it's a preview. The lobster part is fucking great.

I wasn't a huge fan of the book. Was disappointed. Got more value from some of his lectures.

well here's the thing, everyone nowadays is being raised on false premises and rigid ideologies. they might feel like common or basic ideas but sometimes thats just what one need to really move foward. a reminder of basic, common sense truths. just like any boxer would say, you can't box on a high level if you didn't master the basics and you can't remain a high level boxer if you do not practice the basics on a daily basis. in that way, i believe that his carrying of these simple truths on the scale that he's doing it right now is deserving of some level of praise!

WAY MORE! I think he appeals to sexism, stereotyping, feeling jealous of people who are smarter, or better educated, or more popular or successful.

@@Mephistozenith Excuse me, but when you make a sweeping generalization like that, you are necessarily wrong. These are the kinds of things that can hinder communication with different generations. I'm very happy to be able to say l have pretty good communication with both my daughter and my grandchildren. I don't tell them what they're supposed to think.

@@AlicedeTocqueville jeez gurl calm down i don't even know you

@@Mephistozenith EEEK! What did I say?

I hope your boys do not listen to his views on women in the workplace. He’s a sexist. Be careful.

@@_letstartariot good thanks for your opinion

@@_letstartariot He isn't but well....

@@_letstartariot no, he's not. You however probably are.

@@_letstartariot oh, yeah. I just posted about his views on women, in general

I knoooowww

I'm not sure what the point of it was. Shouldn't it have been more of an analysis for a psychological understanding channel? I understand the Dr didn't want to go into specific details, but in doing so it didn't address some of the main critiques of Peterson, particularly on giving out "vacuous" self help advice and being the equivalent of a "Rorsach test" where wholly competing views can find their own meaning in what he says. Plus, Peterson's divisive sociological political views are kinda the point. Might have been better to do it, say, from a standpoint of - is this narcissistic behavior? Or something similar.

Anthony Miesel here’s a few other ones about his views on Marxism & Postmodernism. Really educational ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V2hhrUHSD6o.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cU1LhcEh8Ms.html

@mike gallimore Ya - any grandparent can give you that advice??? Prob say it better tho...

@mike gallimore ha ha😊... sassy comeback & I do appreciate your facetious parley, BUT... to expound on xyzz Doe's point which is the crux to your comment: 1) As a proclaimed "Self-Help" guru w/ books titled "Maps of Meaning" & "12 Rules..." the ire the Dr.'s ideas invoke in academic & intellectual circles is well deserved. His ideas: often hackneyed, using superfluous verbosity to exclaim the obvious. When Bill Maher exclaimed, "Why do I feel what this guy says is just common sense?" it's bc that's precisely his m.o. & that extends to almost all he spouts (esp. "Life advice") put under a scrutinous microscope. And the mental acrobats the reader (listener) has to perform to make sense of the Dr.'s long-winded, hifalutin proclamations leaves one (groupies) to acquiesce an undeserved appeal to authority. 2) Since the Dr. has been a constant critic of Marxist/Communist/Socialist philosophies to then flee to Russia in search of some rehab not available in the "post-modern" west is unabashedly hypocritical. Your anecdote about a fitness instructor is spot-on 👍(better than my ethical commitee politician recently found cheating analogy). His personal trails are inconsequential to his ideas & conclusions, (like dismissing Nietzsche due to his mental dissipation) & to hastily claim, "Well look how many people he's helped!" is an unwarranted appeal to emotion to the issues he's espousing. Taken on their own, his precepts & "Rules" (at face value) may seem wise, but held to any exegesis are found invalid & lacking integrity. ( Like advice to mimick the hierarchy of male lobsters? One may as well take Meine Kampf arguments about the master race seriously, ergo the Nazi comparisons among other radically conservative stances.) This can't be overstated enough esp. for someone called the "Intellectual of our Time" & who has been undeservedly crowned a "Messiah" in the Pscho/Self-help community. If there's any argument that we are not in the realm of the Bizarro - well here we are folks! And as far as our grandparents are concerned Mike G.😉, when they complain about the latest medication they've been prescribed, change the subject to one of the most meaningful events in their life & listen humbly.

Thanks for your meaningful comment. I would dare to say that most texts, especially those with a strong philosophical context, are literally material for interpretation - based on the fact that we all have different backgrounds and have gone through different things that have shaped us and the way how we see the world. Jordan Peterson is undoubtedly an interesting person, and his approach is quite unique in the western part of the western world. What I mean by that is approximately this. If you read the comments here (even from educated professionals), many of them praised JP for his help, wisdom, knowledge, insight, etc. I would agree with that (although I disagree with JP on some points), but I have one, I think, significant objection. To most Americans, maybe even Canadians (IDK, I can't judge that since I don't have enough data or experience to do so, thus, I'm speaking more from an "American perspective"), JP is super educated. That's an American view reflecting the overall quality of the American education system. I'm pretty sure that, e.g., the European audience sees JP similarly, however not exactly in the same way. European education is very different from American, and although I am sure JP is seen as a well-versed, thoughtful, and well-educated gentleman in Europe too, the gap between him and his audience in America and Europe is discrepant. Most European high schools teach history and civics as an organic part of the school curriculum. (This also applies to middle grades = children aged 11-15.) Europeans are used to critical thinking and a much wider range of subjects that schools generally teach. E.g., Civics is divided into several years (depending on the type of school/graduate profile), and the curriculum usually includes philosophy, psychology, sociology, economics, political science, and law. Briefly - the European audience would probably agree with these scholars, who point out that JP's view and advice are not so unique, but rather a matter of the common sense that has somehow been lost in America, and a person who educates himself, reads, analyzes and talks about that can easily give the impression he is almost from another planet. Yes, Americans can read, and Carl Jung, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Leo Tolstoy, and others are translated into English. But how many Americans read them...? The general reluctance of Americans to read and learn even their own history is infamous and outrageous. Then, someone like JP comes along and looks like a supernova. I am not trying to belittle him, but if Americans read (more), they wouldn't be so overwhelmed by his knowledge. JP is or was (...?; he currently has some health issues...) considered a supernova in America. In Europe, he would face many such supernovas, and the European audience wouldn't look at them as some alien supermen... America should seriously rethink its values, the separation of church and state, and invest tons of money into the education of our children, so they can be more educated than generations of their parents and grandparents.

@@xpsxps1339 You make some very interesting and important points! I often wonder why so many commenters argue from angles that omit aspects I at least deem obvious, and this impression stems from the education I experienced in Germany during the last quarter of the 20th century (what my grade 8 daughter's is being taught now in Switzerland is different, but not in a good way). Sadly the educational standards in Europe are also declining and decidedly "woked up", which does nothing to enhance the content. Furthermore the funds for schools and universities are successsively diminished - in many schools the parents are even friendly coerced to help renovate the buildings, or e.g. toilets are simply closed if they do not function properly or have been vandalised (even here in CH this is an increasing problem - in my daughter's school [in a village with ca. 4.500 inhabitants!] a toilet was DETONATED and is now closed since ca. three months, instead of being repaired). Due to increasing residential poverty (job losses and diminished incoming taxes due to the pandemic exaggerating the effect) and immigrant influx the communities are financially depleted, and this reflects on the funding for education, as this seems to be the "easiest accessible" department for financial cuts. The US are trendsetters for Europe, we will be following your path rather sooner than later. This is shameful, as ALL (young) people deserve and should get the best possible education, regardless of where they live. Uninformed people make uninformed decisions. But maybe this is the plan. A good read on topic: "Bullsh*t Jobs" by David Graeber. If you have not seen the movie "Idiocracy", i strongly recommend it. This intended satire has evolved into a documentary IMO. Good day.

He's definitely libertarian.

There are hundreds of thousands if not millions who feel the same way you do about Jordan Peterson. I'm one of them, too.

@@briangerrits1454 Me too.

hilarious

sorry to hear that you have lost the ability to think. "12 rules for life is rules for how young men should act" -clear bias before he even begins teh actual critique

@@immortalwombat10 ok

Why do you call him Mr.?

@@immortalwombat10 Peterson has said that the rules don't just apply to men but everyone. A list to become a better person. A guide to moral fortitude, and a foundation grounded in strong basic ethics

So why do we need this guys to give us feedback or validation on Peterson, when we already know his character and value.

@@alexgoldstein2428 “this guy” is a clinical Psychologist. I don’t “need” to hear him. I choose to hear him. You can choose not to hear him. No problem here.

Freudian SLIPPERS ;)

Bahahaha

What does that mean?

Daddy Peterson is high on benzos. He is a stupid man's idea of an intelligent man.

@@mabaker ....and presumably you are the opposite?

Ha! 😂

Of course, it matters what you mean by Dr too!

Perfect example of his word salad.

That would be true if the word Jordan or Peterson is the word that's been used to identify half of the human population.

@@MariGolds2 Ha, ha... Indeed, I've sometimes seen Dr. Peterson talk a lot without saying anything meaningful. Or use verbose statement to make something trite seem profound. Dr. Grande was unduly modest in saying that he is willing to accept that he may not be smart enough to understand what Dr. Peterson is sometimes saying.

I greatly appreciate Dr. Grande's content, it's rational and objectively analytical. So many arguments I see today, both sides are perfectly valid and offer insight, but you're expected to pick one emotional and political extreme or the other, and view the world in black and white. It's frustrating, things tend to land somewhere in the gray area in between, and people attatch too much of their own individual identity to every opinion and idea that they have, and feel defensive and attacked by anyone who disagrees. It's increasingly rare and refreshing to hear basically a reasonable compromise regarding emotionally charged subjects and figures. Jordan Peterson is a perfect example. Though I think I'd find myself agreeing with a lot of his viewpoints, I haven't seeked his material out, and only know him based on what others have said. But it's my understanding that he doesn't align himself with a certain political movement or idealogy, rather it's been applied to him after the fact. So now you have one side that views him as a cornerstone representative of their beliefs, and another side that automatically discredits or invalidates anything he says, while if it came from someone else, they'd most likely be in total agreement. Unfortunately, given the nature of his videos, and having a more neutral character than someone like JP, this type of content won't ever find the same popularity. But know that it's still appreciated by someone! 👍

Very good and interesting summary, thank you.

thats one grip I've had with listening to JP he seemed to be a bit vague or beat about the bush somewhat, maybe I'm being ignorant but its just how I feel.

Why are you passing off your personal opinions as a 'summary'? Please deconflate and repost.

@@Jorpando Anything that attempts to bridge academic philosophy and/or psychology and everyday life application and experience, will be criticised from both sides.

In my opinion, the clear pros outweigh the incredibly meticulous negative points

Who is the teacher from brazil? Sounds good

Also, who cares if he's trying to influence young men? They need guidance, too. I do not particularly like Dr. Peterson, but a lot of his general views/advice are perfectly okay.

His lectures are more for men because its harder being a man !

He says extremely ignorant things about women but most of his advice is good.

@@tomaselke3670 well like one thing he says is that women are the embodiment of chaos energy, I believe that's paraphrasing but still. It's bound to be taken kind of poorly. I think a lot of what he says is just easily interpreted how you want to. Like when he says "women are the embodiment of chaos energy" that's very easy to support in the mythos and say "hey ya, women can be chaotic," if that's what you want to believe, but you can also read it as just straight sexism quite easily. He has a lot of opinions that are almost like soundbites and are, I think, deliberately inflammatory because it gets press, and then he walks them back to a place that's usually pretty reasonable through careful rhetoric. So him saying extremely ignorant things about women is true to a point, and it's quite easy to see why someone would believe that.

@@joecbraun That is a common criticism of him tossed around in interviews I've seen but his response is usually something akin to this, the feminine is symbolically represented as chaos in mythology and literature. So, not exactly what you are saying. What he is actually asserting is about female representation in mythology, not his personal take on women. Take it how you want to, but I think you and many others are creating a straw man out of a nuanced statement.

I agree, i admire Peterson better than Grande

@@wolflarsen1900 Can you give any examples to support what you're saying? Specifically, please give some examples of what is "astonishing far away from any academic standard", and give some examples of what is "senseless and inconsistent" or is "rubbish, outdated or just nonsense". Do you know how the various "five factor" models have been derived? Peterson's lab produced the two senior authors (Colin DeYoung and Linda Quilty) of the best-ever version of the five factor model (called the "Big Five Aspects Scale" in their version) and it's based on factor analysis of many thousands of personality adjectives. Peterson was the third author of the foundational paper for that highly-refined, best-ever formulation of the five factors. The various five factor models look to be so solidly grounded that they reconcile with genetics research and now with the developing field of personality neuroscience. In other words, Peterson and his former students have gone a very, very, very long way with an area of linguistics that's been hugely validated (now in something like 30 languages, maybe more) and they've produced the best-ever formulation of it. Not all linguists have a clue about the five factor model and its derivation -- so perhaps you don't understand that aspect of Peterson's work. Whatever the case, please substantiate your statements about his comments about "language, meaning, etc." to be "rubbish, outdated or just nonsense". A friend of mine did his Ph.D. under Chomsky and he said that Chomsky was badly over-confident in many of his linguistic pronouncements, and one can see a kind of extreme or even delusional, detached, self-satisfied over-confidence in his political pontifications as well. I wouldn't like to think that linguists as a group suffer from that kind of delusional, smug, over-confidence and tendency to make sweeping pontifications that are just self-satisfied hot air. So please, Mr. German Philosopher of Language, instead of your non-specific, grand slurs, and sweeping dismissals, show us enough evidence to prove that you're not just pontificating and full of hot air like all the others who try to score points for themselves by knocking Peterson.

@Wolf Larsen damn you wrote a lot but didn’t give any evidence to support your original point. Please let us know which Peterson comments in the linguistic field you were referring to

@@wolflarsen1900 Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? Especially a philosopher who confesses to having the attention span and intellectual integrity of a goldfish. Huff and puff as might, but you didn't substantiate your sweeping slurs with anything worth any respect. You are so inept in linguistics that you don't realize that you're disclosing your amateur status by constantly harping on status themes, and ONLY on status themes. Stay away from the callings that require competence in thinking -- you'd have no future in any of them.

@@wolflarsen1900 You made a point of mentioning the brevity of your attention span and the fact that you said you only read the beginning and the end of my post, and not the middle, indicates a lack of intellectual integrity in our exchange just as the fact that you haven't substantiated any of your sweeping statements and slurs about Peterson suggests a lack of intellectual integrity. It's easy to see your immaturity as you dance around avoiding substantiating your claims, even though I am not the only person who's asked for substantiation and who's pointed out to you that your replies are just empty blither. So yes, you have no intellectual integrity.

I have common sense and cant be tricked in to calling him smart or deep lol he isn't hurting anybody but hell my Dad said all the same stuff as a factory worker lol Socrates he is not.

Yes his reader are young people who are lost. Not for professor to learn more.

He also has a habit of overgeneralizing research or expanding it beyond the scope of what has actually been shown. His discussion on dream interpretation is a perfect example of this as he takes bits and pieces of research and synthesizes it into a statement about dreams that is misleading at best and most likely simply inaccurate.

That’s good for people who don’t like to read books but still like to pretend they are educated . Tell me that’s not what every Jordan Peterson fan is .

@@dinosore4782 That is not treating your audience here in good faith. It comes across as "I'm better than you because I'm educated." Hubris, in other words. You don't need to do that. You don't need to say that. Because, if you do, if you really think that you need to point that out, you are making clear your insecurity, that's all.

@@brendanh8193 blah blah blah. You said everything except that I’m wrong . Becuase you know it’s true, deep down, that’s how you are . Just be honest, it takes alot less sentences to just accept the truth .

Truly, he makes little sense to me either.♥️

Yes!!! At the request of a friend, I checked out some of his videos, and in one he was almost ...manic for lack of a better word? He was talking very fast and making no sense. Now my IQ is high enough that I can keep up with him, and catch him in extreme ideas, but I even doubted my own reality for a split second, which is a huge red flag. I even slowed the video down, and he was creepily incoherent. In other videos, not so much. But he is not consistant from interview to interview. I was really excited to see Dr Grande review him! He has some good points, and great ideas, but then will say something so ridiculous- like feminism is ruining the ideology of manhood. (Paraphrased) or that Ann Frank's diary is fiction :o I keep watching him, not as a fan, but out of interest and specticism. He's def not consistant. My friend is paying $100 to see him speak later this month. That's her thing tho.

I think Jordan structures his ideas in a very linear fashion. It’s as if he’s building a giant structure with his ideas which isn’t how a lot of people think. Instead of freely floating between related points, he uses each idea to expand upon the previous. I’m sure there’s a much more nuanced explanation but this is just my two cents

@@beaujones5124 Your 2 cents is as welcome as mine🌷

@@cdow9032 Which videos are you talking about? I would love to analyze them.

Excellent point - I just typed that into my outline for my Phil McGraw video yesterday - I remember a few occasions when he did that -

I read something about considering people with a positive moral regard encourages pro social outcomes, this is certainly not on Dr.Phils agenda.

Is Dr. Phil even really a doctor or does he just call himself that like Dr. Schlesinger or Queen Latifa? If he really wanted to help people he wouldn't put them on TV and shame them.

@@undeadpresident he's not a real doctor, he was stripped. He can call himself a doctor because its 'entertainment'

@@undeadpresident He is a real doctor in that he has a PhD, so he can use that title. He is not currently licensed to practice though, and he hasn't been for quite some time.

Peterson is quite the fan of Carl Jung, and among the things Jung has talked about are "archetypes" which are basically images and motifs Jung thought were some sort of innate knowledge all humans have in some form such as the archetype of the hero or the father, etc. This is particularly relevant for storytelling, and Peterson has said he does aim to tell stories and keep people interested. From there I would say he does intend to be entertaining in the sense of keeping attention on him when he's trying to convey whatever thoughts he has.

@@jackalopegaming4948 i think that everyone that is teaching something should aim to be entretaining, without detriement of the knowleadge itself of course

Yes he does, he admitted such to Russel Brand

Sometimes people associate the word ‘entertaining’ to evoking extreme emotions or reactions or to performing clownish acts. I think Peterson’s style evokes curiosity and thought. I think he’s entertaining in that manner.

@@jackalopegaming4948 to further that, a lot of the theorised interpretations of archetypes focus on how an archetype (Great Father, Anima/Animus, etc) can be of merit for humans in explaining. Peterson follows Jung to a high degree, so I feel he takes influence from Jung in this sense. He isn't afraid to enter the realm of storytelling in an educational setting because he sees the utulity in it from a Jungian theoretical standpoint.

As someone with a PhD in history, I don't find his command of the subject very strong - although I haven't seen a great deal of his content. Similar to Todd's assessment of his use of Jung, to me Peterson seems to use history more as a rhetorical tool, rather than being too concerned with historical evidence. But, his books sell better than mine, so what do I know :'D

@@cuttingbored4195 you don't have you tube videos so your books aren't out for the general public to see

@@cuttingbored4195 is it possible to know a lot about history, yet lack the ability to apply lessons from the past to today's cultural decline? Is it possible that Dr Peterson knows enough history facts to be able to draw useful conclusions to be applied to today's pressing issues.

Some people have never been to skid row or under any bridge in any large city in the US.

@The Insatiably Curious Skeptic The poverty in the states is different, but it still exists. For example in certain parts of the US people freeze to death because of poverty, that is not something that you would see in the slums of Bombay India. The suffering is different but it is still there.

@The Insatiably Curious Skeptic No what he says is not true, there is poverty and poor in the US and people that die from impoverished conditions. However not all poverty or the poor in the US are entitled like you say, some are that way from genetic dispositions of low IQ, congenital disorders, inbreeding. The thing that separates the US from India is that the US does not have a Cast system. If an individual in the US is born into poverty with a high IQ, they have opportunities to climb the ladder of education and become successful and get out of poverty. This foundation of education for all was laid down by the Calvanists since the New England colonies and is what makes the US unique.

albelnoxroxursox well he was high on pain killers the whole time and he's paying for it now unfortunately.

@@faustianrevival3816 Incorrect. He went on anxiety relief medication because the light of his life and his literal soulmate, his wife, came down with a very volatile type of cancer relatively suddenly and he spent months suffering with the very real and likely possibility that he might lose his other half. Everyone has a breaking point where they are no longer strong enough to rely on themselves alone, and sometimes there's nothing people in one's immediate support systems can do. His philosophy couldn't save him from the unbearable suffering of facing one of his worst fears, and so he turned to medication. When his wife recovered, he realized he couldn't come off it by himself so he took responsibility and sought out the help he needed. Idk what the hell is up with all the people demonizing him for this.

@@albelnoxroxursox, well said.

I wanted to point that out too, that had me pause for a second and then snicker. Well played!

@@faustianrevival3816 I didn't hear any thing about pain killers but I definitely heard about him being on benzodiazepines and abusing them. I'm on pain killers most of the time for permanently damaged proximal hamstring and adductors tendons (groin). But I've managed to keep my overall doses low by sticking to the recommended doses, and when I know my pain is significant and steady, by cutting my pills into quarters and dosing on the half life so I get stable effects. There's nothing unfortunate for Peterson though. He's a United Nations agent acting to prevent white males from thinking to form political identity groups to protect themselves, their countries and their interests. Try digging deeper. He's a shill for judeo-masonry.

@Anthony Mendoza I agree with you! Personally I feel he goes beyond his expertise when discussing biblical accounts as if he is a biblical scholar which he is not. God, Jesus and biblical accounts are not to be explained through psychology or philosophy. They are best understood through belief and faith. I realize he is grappling with his beliefs and of course as everyone, has every right to do so. My peeve is that he weeves his ideas in his videos on psychology as if he is qualified theologian. The danger in this is high as many people respect his thoughts, of which I am one, but a person who may be on the fence as to their beliefs will look to his teaching as sound just because he is Jordan Peterson. They may fail to research biblical pastors as a result..pastors who are able to transform you and change your life (i.e.David Pawson, Derek Prince, David Wilkinson, Charles Stanley, John Piper, Voddie Baucham just to name a few). At least they did for me! 🤔

He is often the first to say that he is in fact not an expert when discussing certain topics. Especially in his newest content where he talks to very experienced guests about their area of expertise. I've never seen Dr. Peterson suggest that he is an expert on a given topic when he clearly knows he's not. Quite the opposite.

@@claudiapennisi7987 "God, Jesus and biblical accounts are not to be explained through psychology or philosophy" Now that's simply not true.

@@mambutuomalley2260 Personally, I believe if Jordan Peterson would consider Christian study in a seminary he would blow our mind! 🤯

@@claudiapennisi7987 Actually it is. The guy gave a lecture in Harvard for 6 years discussing myth in the context of Jungian Psychology, and Christianity plays an important role in that discipline (that was developed by Jung himself).

@@andrewtaylor2430 this video seems to have been posted prior to Peterson’s drug abuse being common knowledge. But, if the creator didn’t make that pause deliberately, it was still a very apt pause.

Hahahahahaha

@@marialagattuta5438 he needs to clean the opiates out of his room

The pause wasnt long enough to justify this comment.

@@lukepatto4366 well, I didn’t time it... but it was certainly long enough to catch my notice.

Yess exactly, people who actually want to develop teach others how to filter and discuss what the good ideas are, not necessarily centered on what they think is best

Jordan Peterson seems to be much better when he's telling people how to think rather than what to think. Any one person will be filled with opinions that are right and wrong, and you shouldn't choose any one person to copy the beliefs of. Some of his beliefs are rather odd, controversial, and in my view, untrue, but a lot of what he teaches about how to go about forming beliefs is very wise. The fact that his advice regarding how to think has actually led me to disagreeing with him goes to show that it really was good advice - instead of teaching us to think in a way that would make us automically agree with him, he wanted us to think for ourselves. When I started with Jordan Peterson I was quite a fan. I genuinely have him to thank for improving my way of thinking and becoming more critical. Despite that, nowadays, I take him with a grain of salt. Again, he really is at his best when he's telling people how to think rather than what to think.

As a Jordan Peterson fan it was nice to hear some critiquing that wasn't the typical "he's a fascist, transphobic, resentful misogynist."

@Phi6er Lol.

@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 Well, he is though, and it's worth pointing out.

@@cptKamina ...

@@cptKamina yea this was not a critique of him at all, very soft-handed. He might be afraid of JP's rabid fanbase which is fair

Meine Meinung du Falafel You’re right! Critique doesn’t have to be respectful, nice, politically or socially correct. Absolutely! Every other critique of Peterson’s work seems to be driven by ideological nonsense. I simply pointed out that this guy did not do that and what he did do, he did with class. So what point are you trying to make?

Hopefully Peterson never comes back to a world stage. He doesn't deserve a platform.

09BiGDylan He doesn’t deserve a platform? Can you explain why that is? Or is it simply that you are intimidated by someone who has opposing views to your own?

I am an orthodox Muslim with a BPD wife and I admire both of you.

@@09BiGDylan you don't get a "platform" because you deserve it, but instead because someone/somewhere wants to hear what you have to say. Your use of "deserve" implies you need permission, and in your case permission from a social Marxist and all that entails.

That is Dr. Grande to you ;)

Deliberate.

We'll see.

Todd

There is some nonsense. An acceptable amount. He got jokes lol

Dispassionate!!! 👌 Like a good judge should be.

jordan is egoic. not narcissist yet.

ordan Peterson's behaviour/ mannerisms reminds me of someone diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder....but he seems like a narcissist who has studied psychology, philosophy and scientific politics and has identified himself as somone who has experienced emotional/psychological abuse as a child. His behaviour and mannerisms seems like his struggling inside. His ego comes out alot

@@imoeazy agreed. I think you are a better psychologist than JP. he cannot even sort out his issue and went into depression. 😂😂 can a depressed patient trust a depressed clinical psychologist ? lmao

@@imoeazy From this comment it is clear you haven't consumed much of JP's content. The ego is an integral part of the complete self. I find it difficult to trust anyone who doesn't show us their true selves every now and then. Especially someone who speaks publicly and on podcasts as much as JP. I'm glad he gets vulnerable and shows us his passion/love for humanity.

you seriously believe that dude's just a teacher that wants to teach? not interested in profits? THE ONLY SOURCE ANYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND HIM IS A THESAURUS! he attempts to make profound statements & yet he gives nothing but pure PPBS (pseudo-profound bulls**t)

@@amybock6499 I'm betting you're one of those folks that thinks they're more intelligent than anyone else in the room, and you are sans a PhD. I didn't ask you what you thought. I don't give a shit about your feelings or your $0.02. In fact, your comment is what amounts to bullshit, so take your crazy somewhere else.

@@amybock6499I wouldn't argue he only offers PPBS, as you pointed out, but - the fact is - he is significantly more educated and much more knowledgeable than his audience. In general, Americans are not avid readers, certainly not readers of Jung or Dostoyevsky, etc., even though JP encourages them to read them or anyone else he considers his source. Those are demanding books and take time and thought (!) to digest their contents. Therefore the admiration for someone who has actually read such books and seems to understand them is kind of logical, and a critical assessment of his interpretation of the read content is almost impossible or at least very unbalanced. How can anyone even judge whether JP interpreted the content (or anything else) correctly when those people didn't read the book because it was too difficult for them to read...? Basically, only people with his level of intelligence and knowledge who understand what's going on can meaningfully judge him. (Recognizing and distinguishing Socrates from sophists is difficult unless the person who tries to do it is not one of them.)

i was hesitant too! Happy it was positive! Love JP!

Loni Kaloni 💕

I completely agree!

curious morningstar 👍🏽

I agree. This review was a refreshing change. I remember when JP first became known, he really upset a lot of people and they were often firing unfounded accusations at him. In a "science based Facebook group" run by someone who regularly wrote science articles in the press, whenever the topic of JP came up the group owner and many others in the group would just start name calling and coming up with all sorts of bile. When I pressed as to the reasons behind these opinions (as at that time I genuinely didn't know much about him), I was attacked and called a JP fanboy, Nazi, Alt-right... etc. just for asking for clarification. I was pretty shocked that a science group, who prided themselves on "facts", and "sources" would become so rabid and irritational over this man.

How was he as a professor back then? Do you still listen or read any of his work? Just wondering, thanks :)

@@guillermoromero3071 That is a very good question. For starters, back in 2001 he wasn’t effected by fame, so Prof. Jordan Peterson actually very much like himself and was able to see how he really was. I in fact, could see immediately that he had that intense intellectual spark in the very first class that I attended; -and unlike what most people think, he was actually quite extraverted, and was always energized around people. This contrasted me, whom was always very introverted

I had a number of excellent professors at junior college and later at UCLA, but none so engaging, challenging, interesting, or clear as Dr. Peterson. I have watched hundreds of hours of his lectures and I've often thought "Man . . . I wonder how many of those students realize how fortunate they are to have a professor of this caliber!" Nice to see one of them sharing here! :)

@@primalcritters Agreed there! Also, there have been other great men of genius, but don’t really know how to teach. One of the reasons as to why Albert Einstein had such difficulties in getting a faculty position, was because he wasn’t good at teaching and sounded more like a monologue according to the other professors who audited his lectures (or mock lectures). Einstein was very introverted like myself, but Jordan Peterson had the great advantage that he was an extrovert

@@jubjub2112 Yes I do consider myself very fortunate! I’ve been known also for having quite a catalogue of colorful and interesting acquaintances. Unlike with most of the other intellectuals, Jordan Peterson was an extrovert, which allowed him to lecture without difficulties, be very energetic and even entertaining. Albert Einstein, whom was known to be one of humanity’s greatest geniuses was not known to be a great lecturer, abs even had a very difficult time finding a job as a professor due to his rather monotoned and monologue-like way of of teaching. Unlike Jordan, he was an introvert like myself

It's impossible to be precise in your speech because you never know what the receptor will comprehend... specially in this day and age when hypersensitive subjectivity is the norm.

Incorrect

Great input by everyone, great job guys!

I wonder how much the globalist death cult pays him?

Devoid of emotion usually means nap time

@@876r876rf maybe you should delete it then?

He just is so well educated! You need the 5 hr conversation to even connect well to these subjects. I’d love to have about a day of his time. I do get most of his references to other works and people. And his love, true love, for others individual and societal is overwhelmingly honest. He isn’t afraid to be vulnerable as a person.

@@joysanders59 You are absolutely right about his love for others. I, too, would dearly love to have some one-on-one time with him.

Your summary is excellent, but I disagree with your "much-hyped vocab" perception. Birthing person. Menstruating person, Personchester United, personual labour. Nah, his take isn't over the top, he warned us. I enrolled my python at the kindergarten as it identifies as a child. So far, only three kids have mysteriously disappeared, and the python has gone off his food at home.

@@VaughanMcCue Thanks for your reply. Are you familiar with the controversy surrounding Dr. Peterson's stance regarding "vocabulary control by the Canadian government"? His take wasn't "over the top," but it did contribute to the controversy created by the government's insistence on appropriate vocabulary. I have noted, though, that he seems to have gone through some sort of personality (for lack of a better word) changes since his illnesses. He doesn't seem to be the same person, to me anyway.

@@jbrown2908 His health setback and his wife's imminent death from a cancer scare shook them. She came good, and he has to, but the health and mental challenges took their toll on him; naturally, he will be slow to get back into "it". I need to remind myself that his recent experience gave me another insight into his life and I _see_ him differently than before. I am genuinely interested in opinions alleging that he is extremist in his political position, and I am too naive to get what the fuss is.

Me too!😊

Same.

@The Judge assumptions aren't wrong if you are willing to challenge them. You can't survive without assumptions.

@@suckieduckie oh hush

@@suckieduckie Assumptions can be wrong, which is why they must be critically evaluated, and if wrong corrected or rejected.