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Jordan B Peterson (born June 12, 1962) is a Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. In this clip he talks about handling the darkest feelings about existence itself.
This is from his Bible Series XII: The Great Sacrifice: Abraham and Isaac. Full video quoted under fair use: • Lecture: Biblical Seri...
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@tracerbullet420
@tracerbullet420 7 лет назад
An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy. “It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too.” The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?” The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”
@ghoulinthegraveyard399
@ghoulinthegraveyard399 7 лет назад
Well put Mark.
@chrislinde6073
@chrislinde6073 7 лет назад
Thank you mark...that seems to clarify a great deal for me.
@danni8191
@danni8191 7 лет назад
Feed them both equally because you're incomplete without all of those modes of being?
@tracerbullet420
@tracerbullet420 7 лет назад
!st I'd say it's a good thing that the grandfather knows that evil exists within him, and now so does the grandson. 2nd, when the grandson asks which will win? I certainly don't think you want to feed it because , as the grandfather states, the evil wolf wins. You don't want the evil winning...and if you feed it equally, does that make you 50% evil? is that a good thing? What percentage of evil can the soul contain before it's considered evil? Is there a ratio of "X" parts per billion of evil the soul can have in it before it's considered polluted? I think you consider that it's an old man and the fight between the two is still going on inside him...despite him not feeding it...That evil wolf isn't going anyplace...you just don't want to make him stronger, if you can help it... I think the question here is could the the Grandfather, or the Grandson, unleash it if needed.? i think that's the key to having control of the evil. Can you release it only when needed and only the exact amount needed for the situation. Then pull it back into it's cage.... If you have it under control then that's the test for it, right?
@peaceharmony4115
@peaceharmony4115 7 лет назад
Excellent parable. Thank you for sharing it. Very wise.
@FeWolf
@FeWolf 6 лет назад
The greatest battles you will ever face, are those that are in the battlefield of the mind
@dangeles95
@dangeles95 2 года назад
💯
@joshua22099
@joshua22099 2 года назад
Well said.
@pixieheart9303
@pixieheart9303 2 года назад
That's the truth.
@SammyCee23
@SammyCee23 6 лет назад
The end of the video is profound. "The key to the prevention of the horrors a person does in the future is the reconstruction of the individual soul at the level of each individual"
@talastra
@talastra 2 года назад
Not quite, but close.
@YoursTrulyMrsMoores
@YoursTrulyMrsMoores 6 лет назад
I sure wish I found these lectures back in high school. Better late than never, I guess
@Brooklynbaby47
@Brooklynbaby47 6 лет назад
Brittanny Graves yes!!!! Same thoughts!!!
@xexzersy
@xexzersy Год назад
i guess im lucky then
@limkey69
@limkey69 6 лет назад
It’s always impressive to listen to him express those profound and complicated ideas with such ease. A great mind.
@skaviva70
@skaviva70 2 года назад
Ease and passion! Which attracts me to listen to him in small chunks rather than read his books.
@dianebaileymusicministries
@dianebaileymusicministries Год назад
A lot of things he says are beyond my comprehension but the few things I get are amazing. I love listening to such wisdom. It’s like honey to my ears.
@chriswas8681
@chriswas8681 2 года назад
Darkness can be a strength if you know how to utilize it and turn it into a positive, its not easy and for some not realistic. But it has been my greatest advantage over others. Adhd,ptsd,bipolar,anxiety,psychoses, type 1 diabetic and im still here, giving up is not an option for me and heres why. I want to see the end of my own story. Never give up folks things do get better with lots of effort ofcourse. have patience and appreciation for yourself and 1 day and goal at a time.
@mattweatherspoon
@mattweatherspoon 2 года назад
So which one of you wrote this?
@monk3110
@monk3110 2 года назад
I feel ya. High functioning autist, PTSD, Borderline personality disorder. God I can be potent when I’m not dissociating or slipping into a psychosis. Hopefully I don’t do anything undoable during one of those spells. Had to go the ER recently and luckily was just scared and bolting from everyone and intermittently muttering and I have no idea why but that’s not usually how that presents itself.
@matthewmcdonough5601
@matthewmcdonough5601 2 года назад
@@mattweatherspoon I feel like such a dick for chuckling at this cmon man this is a stranger on internet not a friend.
@zorantomic8429
@zorantomic8429 2 года назад
I can only wish I care for my life that much.
@Jay-rb6er
@Jay-rb6er 2 года назад
@@zorantomic8429 still here ?
@CrunchyNorbert
@CrunchyNorbert 7 лет назад
a few months after I started listening to Jordan Peterson I joined my local fire service
@RainsWorldVegasSlots
@RainsWorldVegasSlots 6 лет назад
CrunchyNorbert that’s admirable. If you become a fireman be aware they have 70 percent divorce rate., see knarly car accidents more than actual fires an too many firemen I know have addiction problem, my husband being one of them. It’s not a happy life. I’ would never want my son to become one or my daughter to marry one. They protect one another and paint a facade of family life and being good guys not that there aren’t some but the job is not worth it on any level. Good luck.
@EgoShredder
@EgoShredder 6 лет назад
The stereotypical view I usually see of firemen in the media, is one of a hunky hero rescuing a cute furry little kitten from a tree. As always the truth would be less digestable for the regular media consumers.
@valerie80yearsago90
@valerie80yearsago90 6 лет назад
J Thorsson he's doing something for society... You can laugh all you want, but he is the one that will come to your aid if you're ever in a car crash or your house is on fire. At least he is doing something FFS.
@ojc8902
@ojc8902 6 лет назад
Missing the point, being that Jordan Peterson is worth listening to and taking in some of his values/ideas which might just be all you need to turn aspects of one's life around. I believe this isn't flaunting
@sonicfoxxmusic4281
@sonicfoxxmusic4281 6 лет назад
I believe CrunchyNorbert was winding folk on youtube up....he hasn't answered anyone. Work it out.
@ash7324
@ash7324 2 года назад
I lost my first business and went bankrupt, I tried really hard but there are things I could have done differently, there are things I couldve done better and mistakes I definitely made. Losing it set me back years in my career but I watch videos like this to try and resolve that within myself healthily, so I dont repeat the same mistakes
@jack_fx266
@jack_fx266 Год назад
Hope your doing better 💙
@L4SERB0Y
@L4SERB0Y 7 лет назад
Prof Peterson is probably the most lucid and self aware human i know of.
@clamrider
@clamrider 2 года назад
makes his troubled times that much worse for him
@dontpanic9261
@dontpanic9261 2 года назад
Sounds painful.
@Max-bh8tg
@Max-bh8tg 7 лет назад
I'm been in a pit of nihilism in the past months, I really needed this.
@cosmotect
@cosmotect 6 лет назад
Dude life is worth to be sorted out. I think i understand how dark it must be down there, but you need to fight. Don't give up to the darkness, scream and rage and start climbing. Best of luck to you. Life is unfair and meaningless, doesn't make it any less amazing though. You are part of the greatest story there ever was unfolding in front of you. Trees, flowers, cars, people, all of it is miraculous, miracles all around, you just need to feel it.
@joshmo141x
@joshmo141x 6 лет назад
same
@websterri
@websterri 6 лет назад
J Thorsson i think i just found my twin. I think about this daily. You got it almost word for word.
@pyrhoe
@pyrhoe 6 лет назад
To me, nihilism is freeing! If nothing matters, then the world is my sandbox and I will do my best to create it in my image ( ;) ). I will do what I can to leave it a little better than I found it; whether that be to have a positive impact on the life of a single person, or an entire country, or the world :)
@untitled9887
@untitled9887 2 года назад
@@pyrhoe And that is what I love of nihilism. I am utterly, radically free to live my life and do what I please, and while I know the colossal evil I am capable of, I choose to use my free life to do what good I can, in the way I envision it.
@Pitmirk_
@Pitmirk_ 7 лет назад
In 1991 or 2 my psychology tutor said psychology was right wing because it blamed stress and pathology on the individual. All these years later, peterson has shown thats not such a bad thing..
@SplitFinn
@SplitFinn 7 лет назад
Psychology knows no political affiliation really. Both the Left and the Right have used and abused it over the years. I'd have to say it's the Right that have done the most with Psychology, and for better means.
@ironmantis25
@ironmantis25 7 лет назад
There's something wrong with what your tutor said. 1) Psychology does not put the entire cause of psychological problems on the individual rather it is a combination of external influences, genetics and yes, personal choices. 2) How do you define "right wing"?
@matthewmalpeli
@matthewmalpeli 7 лет назад
Starlord I define right wing as the pathological blaming of victims, then claiming victimhood when you tell them to stop persecuting and/or exploiting others for selfish gain.
@danni8191
@danni8191 7 лет назад
Matthew Malpeli The victims exploit others? What are you trying to say, that sentence structure is horrendous.
@eddysgaming9868
@eddysgaming9868 7 лет назад
And I define left-wing as when you claim victim hood to play on the sympathies of others.
@kimlec3592
@kimlec3592 7 лет назад
Write. Just write about your feelings. Then you don't need to act on them. Draw, paint, sing, dance, act in a play...dress up in silly outfits...do what you need to do, but harm none....
@joeperks1472
@joeperks1472 5 лет назад
Kim Lec “but harm no one” You’ve never seen me dance.
@kek397
@kek397 5 лет назад
You've never heard me sing.
@soulreaper8926
@soulreaper8926 3 года назад
Too late
@ronniemartillo
@ronniemartillo 2 года назад
“Before a downfall the heart is haughty, but humility comes before honor”. - proverbs 18:12 These words are currently helping me…
@Isaiahjoshua__
@Isaiahjoshua__ 7 лет назад
8:38 "I might be a darker person than most" *followed by most adorable laugh * LOL
@GlennDavey
@GlennDavey 6 лет назад
Yeah, he is. He is afraid of his mind, he's afraid of the nature of reality and existence, and he clings to his religion for those reasons.
@GlennDavey
@GlennDavey 6 лет назад
You just made an argument above about the unchangeable nature of fictional hyenas. I'm not too concerned with what you think :) What do you know??
@GlennDavey
@GlennDavey 6 лет назад
HELL no. I'm going to bed. Byeeee
@prozak715
@prozak715 6 лет назад
+AAJAA5 Oh but little did you know hes actually the toughest. A wise atheist would never argue the existence of a supreme creator, *nor would a wise creationist.*
@Marlile
@Marlile 6 лет назад
One person denies the existence of God while assuming Peterson is religious. The other assumes the existence of God while belittling his opponent. They're both fuckin dumb.
@noeuro
@noeuro 7 лет назад
Humility vs. Pride
@destroyerinazuma96
@destroyerinazuma96 7 лет назад
Another thought: we can be cruel and quite unfair to those who repent. We point the finger at them and say "look, now he finally started to do something useful. Isn't it too late, buddy? Once a thief, always a thief. Why even try?" Hence when we make a lot of bad decisions we often find the straightening out process humiliating when it only means we care so much about the perception of others we're ready to discard our own well being. Again."
@destroyerinazuma96
@destroyerinazuma96 7 лет назад
I think your bluntness is a gift and I mean it. Sometimes I wish more people told me honestly their critique of me so that I could get an alternate point of view on myself. I also think that if you tell a dishonest person enough times that they're spewing bs and being liars and hypocrites it'll eventually get to them. First their blame you, some morons might even resort to self-harm, but a few will hopefully engage in some self-reflexion. On the boring part I can relate, I feel similarly. It's just that lately I've been considering that maybe it's me who doesn't give people a chance and arbitrarily brands them as this and that without getting to know them. I know there is no obligation, but I wanna be ready for the time where I become interested in something and will need actual human contact to live up to my dreams. Have a nice day! I mean it, I wish that you have a nice day.
@LOLxDroflFOF
@LOLxDroflFOF 7 лет назад
Laughing Tree I can actually relate to you on some basis I think which should probably shock me but I'm more the kind of person who explores that and accepts this as a part of myself. I don't have your aggressive tendencies (or at least not to that extent, everyone has a little monster living inside of them obviously) but I can get the disgust and hatred you feel against the society and even humanity itself. And I don't think that's anything bad at all, it actually drives me to be better than that and to even show that feeling that it's wrong and that there is a lot more to these people that put on an act and are “boring“. Because if you actually talk to a person and you put the effort in to understand them and why they feel that way you will discover truly fascinating things. Something I realised some time ago is that every single person on this world has their story. And every single story is worthwhile listening to because you will always come across something that you didn't expect at all and there is a lot to learn from these things. Also that having problems or hurting is in no way absolute, something really meaningless can mean the world to you and losing it might just be as bad as for someone else to lose their kids or something that is in our society considered meaningful. So always know that other people have their own problems and suffers and maybe even more than you do and always look for something you can learn from them. I really believe that I could learn something from every human being in this world, even if I don't share their opinion at all and even if I am extremely disgusted by their behaviour there is always something they can tell you that can help you and your life. And that really helped me and my overall happiness since I approach things from this perspective. So like Peterson puts it in this video, always look for what you can change to make things better, because it's a lot easier to fall into the trap of blaming someone else. Hope that helped.
@keithhunt5328
@keithhunt5328 3 года назад
"Those who perform great acts of kindness are rarely forgiven." -La Rouchefauld
@lukkiecharm
@lukkiecharm 2 года назад
that is very much part of the cure to addictions - the straightening out process is the way to healing or relapse.
@brothertobias8332
@brothertobias8332 2 года назад
I agree but that trust and forgiveness has to be earned.
@effingright3045
@effingright3045 6 лет назад
I love how his own most strongly held principles shine through in his lectures. I can almost see JP telling himself he's got no right to judge others until he gets his own house in order. He'll tell you the same thing because he truly believes it. It's so refreshing to see someone who isn't selling something. He's just telling you the truth as he sees it. In this day and age, simple honesty like that is so unexpected and so refreshing it's almost enough to make a ya cry.
@sarasantos4076
@sarasantos4076 2 года назад
He’s being helpful and it’s so refreshing!
@JourneymanLineman
@JourneymanLineman 2 года назад
I feel like you just cried in Italian at the end. Lol
@mikeschneider1624
@mikeschneider1624 7 лет назад
"the truth has a certain ring to it" Hemingway said .. for me it sounds like beautiful music and this speech almost moved me to tears starting at around minute 10:00
@agrxm1077
@agrxm1077 3 года назад
J. Peterson is doing what my parents, teachers and everybody in my life never did. Showing me the very me.
@clamrider
@clamrider 2 года назад
he is like our cool father we wish we could grow to become
@dgh4918
@dgh4918 2 года назад
Yes sir
@Mrimperfections777
@Mrimperfections777 2 года назад
Sux as I'm 48
@marieb728
@marieb728 2 года назад
or you weren't paying attention
@IWASMOODYTHEOTHERDAY
@IWASMOODYTHEOTHERDAY 2 года назад
@@Mrimperfections777 I’m 25 and I understand your feeling, it’s never too late to gain knowledge and learn, but also be taught. As well as look up to someone.
@robinlundstrum847
@robinlundstrum847 6 лет назад
Genius. Absolutely a huge help for those of us who did suffer abuse by the hands of our "loved ones."
@NASkeywest
@NASkeywest 6 лет назад
10 years a junkie. My mind is always thinking and wont stfu is why i used. Clean 5 months and what he talks about reminds me of addiction. You know its destroying you, you know the right path is to get clean , but take the wrong one anyways.
@annasajerk
@annasajerk 6 лет назад
Connor Phebus keep fighting man!
@donchello2128
@donchello2128 6 лет назад
Connor Phebus going on 4 years
@johndoesson
@johndoesson 6 лет назад
How do you get the mind to stop going when you dont want it to keep going? And if you can´t stop it, how do you cope with it?
@donchello2128
@donchello2128 6 лет назад
Leo try productive distractions
@alexdoone9659
@alexdoone9659 6 лет назад
Congratulations. Same thoughts here. Ive got 9months today.
@rachaelmccarl
@rachaelmccarl 2 года назад
God bless this great man. I love him dearly. He starts with the individual's responsibility to better themselves, then they can better the world.
@XtruhSpecialK
@XtruhSpecialK 7 лет назад
this is a very wise man speaking. the world is not right. complain about it, choose an enemy, or see the enemy within in yourself. you are the world and the world is your responsibility. krishnamurti said similar things. but at the very least, at least make it so that the way you move in the world, you are at least your *own* responsibility, and that you're not bringing anyone else/thing down by your being. at least make it to that point
@StrangeAttractor
@StrangeAttractor 6 лет назад
Nonsense. The world is the responsibility of a tiny sliver of politicians, business leaders, inventors and cultural figureheads. This tiny group of people determine the course of human history and happiness. Unfortunately, most of them are at best deluded and at worst psychopathic in their intentions.
@user-texgen
@user-texgen 6 лет назад
Passing the buck to others is easy. It means your always the hero fighting the shadowy figures, cloaked in evil.
@Pidea14
@Pidea14 3 года назад
Ehh embrace darkness use it for personal use.
@leonabarkell1809
@leonabarkell1809 2 года назад
@@StrangeAttractor That does not negate your responsibility for your influence in the world!
@coolwhiphimself7753
@coolwhiphimself7753 2 года назад
@@StrangeAttractor Thats a stupid thought. No offense, but the powers in the people and it always will be. What’s your suggestion? To give up?
@brotherzero
@brotherzero 6 лет назад
5:45 That's the moment I'm at in my life right now and yes, it was my fault, I had the voice in my head that said "don't do it", I have overriden it with my arrogance and now my life has completely failed and yes that is an incredibly difficult pill to swallow. I cried when he said that, looking back at my mistakes and realizing I was too arrogant to see that I hadn't thought things through, I was underestimating the challenge I was undertaking and overestimating my ability to deal with said challenge. God, this is tough... I still don't know what to do, but I do feel better...
@lukkiecharm
@lukkiecharm 2 года назад
You ARE doing. You are acknowledging.
@Jamiemccredie
@Jamiemccredie 2 года назад
There are moments in life that are so hard they are unbearable. I couldn’t possibly comment on your specific situation, but what I and many others can and should do, is show you and others that there are people out there feeling the same, and hoping to direct solidarity and solace in your direction - because we have felt loss and love too. Be strong, we will try too. All the best buddy. 👍
@robingardipee1488
@robingardipee1488 2 года назад
That was amazing. I have been there. You are now on the way up
@JayTheNegotiator
@JayTheNegotiator Год назад
Hope you are doing okay
@brotherzero
@brotherzero Год назад
@@JayTheNegotiator I am. Thanks
@robertkennedy1666
@robertkennedy1666 3 года назад
This man has helped me more than anybody in my entire life I'm 44 years old
@soulreaper8926
@soulreaper8926 3 года назад
Bobby? 🤯
@esterhudson5104
@esterhudson5104 2 года назад
That’s cool.
@esterhudson5104
@esterhudson5104 2 года назад
@@soulreaper8926 lol
@GB-dj9wb
@GB-dj9wb 6 лет назад
Jordan Peterson speaks so clearly and logically and at sufficient speed that I'm pretty sure the way he handles public speaking is to just not even acknowledge that the audience is there. I never get the impression that he's actually talking to them, but rather that he is just speaking his thoughts as he imagines them play out in the air around him, existing completely inside his own mind.
@cmattbacon7838
@cmattbacon7838 5 лет назад
I literally asked God for the most comprehensive life experience I could live. So I definitely asked for the misery I've loved through.
@user-fc6yp1xq1i
@user-fc6yp1xq1i 2 года назад
Wow, underrated comment. So it's something like - "Through my misery I've experienced my life as comprehensively as can be?" Love this, thank you.
@warminster1005
@warminster1005 7 лет назад
Could be a Christian? Understands the sinful nature of man!! A reporter once confronted Paul Washer attacking him for suggesting that everyne is a sinner. Washer looked at him and said, "if I could only have a camera that could record, in pictures, every thought that you had for the past hour, and if I was to play that video for all the people who "know" you, you would runaway and never been seen again." The reporter left in silence.
@azzag2414
@azzag2414 7 лет назад
Epic, Washer sure is confronting
@toatahu2003
@toatahu2003 7 лет назад
"If he tried to invade my mind I would kill him where he stood." Welp... Guess we know what kind of person you are on the inside...
@lizardiculous4144
@lizardiculous4144 7 лет назад
Warminster100 - What a legendary response.
@kdub9198
@kdub9198 7 лет назад
Warminster100 Paul Washer is a great preacher. I was fed dearly in a particularly difficult season by God through him.
@roycutling675
@roycutling675 7 лет назад
Except that's not yet possible unless some revolutionary technological breakthroughs occur. And if such a device was to be invented, 1984 would already be at our door obviously and we'd have far greater things to be concerned of. Thus Washer's remark is meaningless.
@OleVinny
@OleVinny 7 лет назад
It's quite disturbing that the response to the Columbine killers was mostly, from my non-USA experience, pointing fingers and placing the blame. That actually completely plays into the pathology of all future school shooters. They rebel against a shallow, system where fake people only care about themselves and their own schemes... the response to that rebellion; Fake people only caring about themselves and their own schemes... It baffles me that it's so rare, if not non-existent, in popular culture to acknowledge that life is unfair, cruel and can seem utterly pointless. Maybe people would be far less likely to develop such psychological issues if people could just acknowledge some darkness from time to time.
@SolomonRasputin
@SolomonRasputin 7 лет назад
Vincent Jacobs that's how humans are, they put the blame on a certain group of people, an ideology or a mystical evil other. Nothing new, carry on.
@WVogt-ms3ym
@WVogt-ms3ym 6 лет назад
Vincent Jacobs
@TheMilwaukeeProtocol
@TheMilwaukeeProtocol 6 лет назад
Bravo to your insightful post. And I say that as a teacher who instructs a lot of emotionally disturbed students. It DOES all come back to oneself. I am playing a role in how likely these kids are to cope negatively!
@TheMilwaukeeProtocol
@TheMilwaukeeProtocol 6 лет назад
Delete Me Please Hi, there.
@thegameguy208
@thegameguy208 6 лет назад
I would really like to believe sometimes that life has an intrinsic meaning that I don't know of, but may be lying dormant waiting for me to figure it out. Or maybe even just to live by it unconsciously through my instincts. It has sometimes really grinded my gears when people suggest that it doesn't... Well maybe that's because the people saying it we're, let's call em, 'obnoxiously cynical'. And that's the part I was picking up on to get angry at. Regardless I can't deny my horrors when they emerge as such. And the denial of this darkness may end up killing my soul further than their recognition. Kind of a funny paradox.
@danpetru
@danpetru 7 лет назад
i like this jordan peterson
@tacituskilgore9838
@tacituskilgore9838 5 лет назад
u gAY
@fredericmoresmau4303
@fredericmoresmau4303 5 лет назад
I sensed it while being there, that they had not much use or comprehension for me.......... and theo ther ones sold it like it was better............... WRONG
@fredericmoresmau4303
@fredericmoresmau4303 5 лет назад
it was probably ohnehin the wrong place, but it would've been a start instead of getting wrecked they didn't need me anyways, and they don't would kept me either
@fredericmoresmau4303
@fredericmoresmau4303 5 лет назад
the real adversity is that from there on everything else went wrong, everything
@caddy272
@caddy272 6 лет назад
Jordan Peterson is amazing. Not only is he honest enough with himself to admit that there is darkness within himself. And within everyone, but he then has the balls to come out and say it loudly. We truley do all have evil within ourselves as human beings. And that is what sets apart a good person from a bad one, the ability to overcome those tendencies and do whats right regardless. What makes someone good, or godly is not being void of evil, but triumphing over it.
@artursgutmanis7421
@artursgutmanis7421 6 лет назад
The most intelligent speech I heard so far in my life, he said things i subconsciously suspected but for the first time I listened, I thought life had no meaning and,as a result, my actions could not have meaning either, but the way one thinks changes everything, thinking of every action as meaningful is probably excruciating but it is the only way that prevents one from falling in the abyss
@aronvillaluna548
@aronvillaluna548 Год назад
i also having the same glimpse on the idea on how vital our thoughts and belief are into shaping our reality, and that everything is possible if it can believed first. its odd commenting in this old comment, but i hope this account is still active and if u mind sharing your experience in this past few years after writing your statement thanks.
@dontmindme1681
@dontmindme1681 6 лет назад
I'm a simple man: I see Professor Peterson, I like. Even when I don't always agree with him, I still love thinking about what he has to say.
@ladyfaye8248
@ladyfaye8248 Год назад
" who wants to be the one who blames the victim for the catastrophe? ". A highly salient question.
@auroraborealis3915
@auroraborealis3915 4 года назад
I know exactly what he means, and I love how he embraces the darkness within
@Mike-zx7lq
@Mike-zx7lq 7 лет назад
Send this to friends in the wake of the Las Vegas shooting incident. I'm seeing lots of "No one can possibly understand these motivations", and not only is this untrue, but it is critical that everyone does just that.
@luzangel115
@luzangel115 6 лет назад
I can always count on the comment section from Jordan Peterson’s vids to give me inspiration. Huge thanks to you all ✌️❤️❤️
@traceyyeoman8391
@traceyyeoman8391 6 лет назад
I am dealing with myself at the moment being horribly truthful. It stings but is mind blowing in its capacity to heal oneself. Facing my demons head on..
@user-fc6yp1xq1i
@user-fc6yp1xq1i 2 года назад
Sending you love, I hope you are well ❤️
@yeshalloween
@yeshalloween 2 года назад
I can’t help it. I hate everyone. So much. Because I wanted so much to love people and did love them but they didn’t love me in return. People are so incredibly, incredibly disappointing. So lacking in loyalty, so selfish. I have high expectations of myself and if others. And because we all fall so short, I loathe us all.
@bebop504
@bebop504 2 года назад
I’ve found life is a lot easier when you lower your expectations and just enjoy the peace that you have, even if it’s just a little right now.
@TheCrusaderBin
@TheCrusaderBin 6 лет назад
I understand that darkness well. I'm feeling better knowing I'm not the only one.
@user-fc6yp1xq1i
@user-fc6yp1xq1i 2 года назад
I think this is the type of message, or maybe *the* message that could save people. Pointing out and acknowledging, for the first time for many people that you HAVE a darkside, we all do, some just experience it more than others, some maybe never experience it at all or think it doesn't exist because they don't explore it fully or nothing in their life brings it out as much as other people have experienced. Don't let the realisation of this itself take you. It is the realisation that you have it, and then to feel it and to feel the depths of it which can be unbearable sometimes. But what we don't hear is the other side - there's another side to it, the end of it, the flip side, the light at the end of the tunnel. Once you've acknowledged that it can be real and that it does it exist, you can acknowledge and know that you can be above it. You can conquer it and win and put it at bay. That doesn't mean it's not in there. You have to know it IS there, and that means feeling it, before you conquer it. What a message of hope and empowerment.
@returnoftheromans6726
@returnoftheromans6726 Год назад
This is why I am so grateful to have found JP, and also other philosophers like Jung who have forced me to acknowledge this. But it wouldn't have happened had I not been there, in that darkness, trying to crawl out of it. Being in the Christian community, we all talk about "sin" and saying that Christ took it, but I think it is downplayed that we have to still live with that ugly side of us for the rest of our time here on earth. And how to properly deal with it. I was telling a friend about this, and shadow work that I believe everyone must do. In order to fully see the light, you must be in complete darkness. And to fully embrace life, you must first embrace death.
@user-fc6yp1xq1i
@user-fc6yp1xq1i Год назад
@Return of the Romans thank you for sharing. You’re not alone in this. Helps to know there are others out there experiencing the same thing
@Sameoldfitup
@Sameoldfitup 3 года назад
It's not the loneliness, yet the feeling of emptiness I can't/can deal with
@woof6292
@woof6292 3 года назад
Rosary
@aegontargaryen573
@aegontargaryen573 6 лет назад
7/11 was a part time job!
@Fear_the_Nog
@Fear_the_Nog 6 лет назад
They let anyone speak on the internet these days, even bastards
@Fear_the_Nog
@Fear_the_Nog 6 лет назад
You really shouldn't be sleeping around with relatives
@mvrz6
@mvrz6 5 лет назад
You guys are making me trip right now
@jeffreyepsteinsclientlist6714
@jeffreyepsteinsclientlist6714 4 года назад
You know nothing!
@bloodmachine6049
@bloodmachine6049 6 лет назад
The amazing philosophy of not questioning any status-quo and blaming everything on oneself. This is how society stays complacent.
@Fear_the_Nog
@Fear_the_Nog 6 лет назад
Boo Machine He says no such thing. You're conflating Self-Cultivation with Self-Blame. He says understand yourself first before questioning the status-quo, because you might not have what it takes to find the right targets, which would result in catastrophe for both yourself and the system around you. Self-Cultivation is what he is clearly advocating here. Self-Cultivation is not the same thing as Self-Blame. Do not conflate the two. Also, the subject being discussed is handling one's darkest feelings towards the world.
@bloodmachine6049
@bloodmachine6049 6 лет назад
I have listened to enough JBP to see how much he is concerned with conserving status quo. I don't think you can apply this purely self-cultivation logic to a man who sees anything left of centre as inherently evil and whose warcry is a whimper about how the western civilisation is going to crumble.I'm not saying he doesn't tell people they should improve, but he is relentlessly opposed to trying to enact any fundamental change.
@Fear_the_Nog
@Fear_the_Nog 6 лет назад
Boo Machine Well, no he's a traditionalist, for the traditions that he thinks makes sense, but you're kind of broadly defining "status quo" here. Not all status quos are bad. Some are very good and make sense and ought to remain. He's not rigid. He believes in course corrections (in his various spiels about the necessity of both the Leftists and the Rightists). I wouldn't characterize him as someone who sees anything left of centre as evil, only that which is FAR left and Marxist. I would also characterize him as relentlessly PUSHING for fundamental change. What he saw in the university setting is a status quo of left-leaning one-sidedness with no diversity of ideology. He has risked his career to push for change of that. As for "trying to enact any fundamental change," I'm not sure what you mean by that blanket statement. What PARTICULAR change are you suggesting we enact? And WHY is it necessitated or justified? Peterson is precise man and a thorough thinker so he is definitely the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" type, but, you gotta give me more than "enact changes" or "status quo" because that is just a couple of slogan words, not a rationale
@Matt-jf5vs
@Matt-jf5vs 7 лет назад
"I am guilty before all and for all."
@lewisbrown9595
@lewisbrown9595 7 лет назад
This is profound
@roadtoempowerment3316
@roadtoempowerment3316 7 лет назад
i would love to see Jordan discuss Terrance mckenna's work, especially Food of the Gods and how he perceived hallucinogens and their boundary dissolving, ego obliterating properties being dangerous to any dominance hierarchy.
@psilocypher
@psilocypher 6 лет назад
mc solitude I would love to see this as well. Food of the Gods may be one of the most profound books I've ever read. Though something I believe McKenna did not touch on as much as he should have is the dark side of hallucinogens. Which in my opinion is closely related to what Peterson is speaking of in this video.
@psilocypher
@psilocypher 6 лет назад
McKenna's very own suggestion (5g of dried psilocybin mushrooms in silent darkness) is what caused him to have an existential crisis and to be somewhat fearful of hallucinogens from that point forward.
@roadtoempowerment3316
@roadtoempowerment3316 6 лет назад
i have read about this trip, but remember Mckenna went on psychedelic convoys very often and he self proclaimed he built an ego around being a lecturer and teacher on these tools, he went on to mention this is what lead his terrible trip. He did however continue his adventures after this trip according to Dennis.
@psilocypher
@psilocypher 6 лет назад
mc solitude That's interesting. I've never seen where he states that his lecturing lead to his bad experience. Makes sense though. From what I've heard, he still took psilocybin afterward, but would only take it in synthetic form where he could get the exact dose he was looking for. I agree though, hearing Peterson speak on this topic would be great.
@psilocypher
@psilocypher 6 лет назад
mc solitude Also, its worth noting that Dennis gave an interview in which he mentions having issues with his brother giving lectures after the "bad trip" because he wasn't "practicing what he was preaching." I was quite surprised to hear Dennis say this. Though that is not to say that Terence did not take psychedelics during that period. He just did not take them as often.
@mindyjoyfullplay5340
@mindyjoyfullplay5340 2 года назад
I’m listening to this for the first time. Just at the right time. Mahalo Jordon…. So many humans can go this deep. It’s easy with good people with purpose.
@johannap8889
@johannap8889 6 лет назад
omg! finally someone speaks pure truth... love you
@Lydioski
@Lydioski 7 лет назад
Fantastic man.
@JBALLTRADES
@JBALLTRADES 6 лет назад
Listening to Jordan Peterson has awoken a great power lying dormant in my inner being and is rapidly transforming my life.
@elgatomoscato230
@elgatomoscato230 Год назад
I told my brother this, that I look at my life circumstances and say everything is my fault. Not in a hyper-critical way, but as a way to claim ownership and power to change my circumstance
@soyusmaximus7176
@soyusmaximus7176 6 лет назад
Hard to overstate how spot-on Dr. Peterson is here.
@StandardProceduree
@StandardProceduree 7 лет назад
'The people who are most wise who have commented on that say the same thing over and over which is the key to the prevention of the horrors of Auschwits and the gulag in the future is the reconstruction of the individuals soul at the level of each individual.' - Jordan Peterson
@onwrdandupwrd5303
@onwrdandupwrd5303 2 года назад
This video gave me goosebumps
@austinsowers8993
@austinsowers8993 6 лет назад
A bad breakup with my ex girlfriend who I loved brought me through my own personal inferno with a very fine tooth comb. This man has changed my life
@inquisitorfederov5470
@inquisitorfederov5470 6 лет назад
I revisited this clip in the wake of the shooting in Florida, and this really is the perfect explanation as to why this stuff happens. It's amazing to me how more people don't understand this type of thinking.
@thenuyoo6774
@thenuyoo6774 5 лет назад
What an amazing video by far my favorite of Peterson clips. I knew this guy was brilliant but it is clear to me now that he is a light Warrior archangel here on Earth. #JordanPeterson believe me that I truly get you, thank you for having the courage to tell us the truth, this world is 99 times brighter because you have took in the responsibility to make it so thank you in behalf of the past and the future of human existence. 🙏
@bachiano1
@bachiano1 6 лет назад
This is one of the clearest lectures of JP. Sometimes he is obtuse which is unfortunate. But here. He is as clear as it gets. 👍
@Brooklynbaby47
@Brooklynbaby47 6 лет назад
G-d knowing that humanity in the 21st Century will need hope... Gave us Dr.Jordan B. Peterson.🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌👊👊
@izojhoney
@izojhoney 6 лет назад
I have seen how Dr. Peterson expressing the disappointment of being betrayed or being denied of being himself in the rubin report interview while talking about Pinocchio. It shows how much he really wants what he wants, and set out to be this great. It is a real awakening to me..
@drakehyman
@drakehyman 6 лет назад
There's a lot of truth in what Dr. Peterson says here in addressing much of the evil we've been seeing in our world lately. But He made two observations which I thought could be expanded further: 1. He says that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was led to write The Gulag Archipelago after seeing religious people in the prison camp (many of whom we know were and can presume were Christians, given Russia's history), who were different from everyone else, inherently good. Peterson says that after Solzhenitsyn came to a realization about his own "mistakes", or sinfulness, which had led him to his dire circumstances, he was led to write his influential book, which was key to dismantling totalitarian communist philosophy, and thereafter, the Soviet Union. What I see in this story which Peterson did not mention, is that it was actually the testimony of faithful Christian believers living morally right lives (though not by their own power, as we in the faith know all to well) that was the transforming factor in Russia. Were it not for God's people living faithful lives in obedience to their savior's instructions, it may be possible Solzhenitsyn would never have come to his realization. My point is this: when God's people live the way He tells them to, the world is transformed (or restored) into a better place. This is the saving power of Christ put on display. 2. Dr. Peterson mentioned that Jesus was a human who dealt with the same evil nature, the same temptations, as that of a fellow human for whom he died- Eric Harris, one of the shooters of Columbine. He mentions that for Jesus to take all of the sins of mankind upon himself as he claims to have done, he would have to had understood that within him dwells the same kind of evil. I would go further than he did here and say that Christ ABSOLUTELY knew that. Two of the last things Jesus said before he was crucified were: "Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing.", and "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" The difference between Jesus and us is slight, and yet vast. He was completely human, but also completely God. He struggled against every evil temptation that His human nature lead him towards, yet He did not give into it at any point. He suffered in His life on earth, but He was raised in a glorious, victorious return. To say "they don't know what they are doing" meant He did. He knew what this was all about. He saw our evil, the same evil He faced, and yet understood it and fought against it. This came at a great cost to Him: his own life, the guilt and burden of all evil being laid upon Him, and a temporary separation from the Father with whom He shared perfect unity. ("My God, why have you forsaken me?") The difference between Jesus and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, who saw evil in himself as the cause of the evil seen in Soviet communism, is that while Jesus possessed all the potential to live sinfully, He didn't. Ever. And that changed the world. Because to us "objective" Westerners who don't believe in miracles, just as life on a planet with unsuitable living conditions would be a miracle, so is good existing in a completely broken society, or world, even more of a miracle. Those people living good lives in a Soviet gulag didn't do so on their own power- such evil would have overcome even the most philanthropic atheist. But when we are weak, then He is strong. When we face evil in this world, it is only by the power of God's own Spirit living within us that we are able to face it and, even more, to live good lives in spite of it.
@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller 6 лет назад
Is Dr. Peterson a Christian?
@drakehyman
@drakehyman 6 лет назад
Ross Arnold according to Wikipedia, he claimed to be in 2017, but that his beliefs are orthodox is doubtful to me.
@sfranken2228
@sfranken2228 6 лет назад
Drake Hyman Thanks. Not responding to abusers w hatred for the pain felt is very difficult. It is crucifixion & brings awareness of my need to trust God thru it. Thank God I am not condemned when I struggle with feeling hatred twd the bearer of destruction & when I rage against myself for being as I was. Thank God that God forgives me when I ask so I don't live in condemnation. I must give forgiveness & let go to let God be God to me & to all. Thanks for reminding me to desire, dicipline, & delight to know God's Word.
@DsLink1306
@DsLink1306 2 года назад
We humans will never stop glorifying our own existence.
@gokusuppercut5040
@gokusuppercut5040 6 лет назад
This guy is so wise love hearing his lectures
@Hal-rc3ku
@Hal-rc3ku 7 лет назад
At first, when I began reading Eric Harris' journal, I was sympathetic and partially agreed to certain bits, but then I noticed a pattern - he is SO full of himself. He was a damn hypocrite who wouldn't survive the scrutiny of his own gaze. The most ironic thing is that he kept mentioning how beautiful self-awareness is. Don't make me laugh...
@williamkoscielniak820
@williamkoscielniak820 7 лет назад
When I first read his journal I agreed with a lot of what he said too because at that time I was a nihilist, and his views pretty much aligned with mine. I also read Klebolds journal and I felt a connection with him too because he was a depressed idealist and beneath my nihilistic mask I too was a depressed idealist. The two of them together are like the left and right brained versions of the same pathological self. One was soaked in resentment and the other was soaked in pity. Both wanted existence to end, one primarily the existence of others and one primarily the existence of himself. I've long ceased to be a miserable nihilist and in time Harris's writings have become almost intolerable to read. But they are intolerable in the sense that they are a mirror into who I used to be, in other words, someone who was intolerable.
@justinstark5732
@justinstark5732 6 лет назад
To be fair, you have to have a very high iq to understand Eric Harris. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp on religion and nihilistic philosophy most the jokes will go completely over the typical readers head...
@lukaskaiser7683
@lukaskaiser7683 6 лет назад
Justin Stark 😂
@hyperspacejester7377
@hyperspacejester7377 6 лет назад
He acknowledges his own hypocrisy... can you do the same?
@dumpgas
@dumpgas 2 года назад
Jordan peterson is my hero
@holifuk1172
@holifuk1172 6 лет назад
11h11 - You are on the journey , I have also been in the deep deep dark places , I have finally broken the surface back into the light, Its a surprise to breathe and smile and see the value in life again...for all of you...embrace whatever positives you can cling to it like the lift raft it is
@shawnpatterson120
@shawnpatterson120 2 года назад
Mr. Jordan I listen to you all of the time and the things you say and the way you interpret and present your thoughts on all topics is absolutely brilliant an straight forward I am an older man with an I.Q of 140 recently tested .. anyway I can't understand how people don't get it ..... But I often think it's me meaning when I see any problem or situation I immediately have to analyze it and figure it out on the spot ...things that others find hilarious or fun and intriguing is boring and mundane to me.. how do I navigate these proclivities of mine to analyze everything every day and claim some of the ignorance that is blissful if you will and be a part of the levity people experience with the small irrelevant idiosyncrasies of life and just be part of it ....I will be honest intelligence comes with a hefty pricetag and is a huge pain in the ass .... I wish I could talk with you and get some advice on this subject so that I can maybe circumvent myself to join the crowd ...sorry guys and thanks for not bashing my post......hint
@dbrad5197
@dbrad5197 2 года назад
Hi Shawn. I have often pondered this same question. The conclusion I came to for myself is that I would would always choose intelligence over blissful ignorance. The reason being that I think intelligence allows you to reach a far deeper understanding of the beauty of life/existence as a whole rather than say a person who goes about life without deep thought. For example I invest my time in self learning, the sciences and philosophy , and the feeling of being humbled by the bit of understanding I have gained of the vastness and complexity of our existence and how rare and precious it seems to be that we are here I would never trade that for an intellectually easier life. If you can't find contentment in daily mundane tasks then maybe try find it in your relationships and keep that at the forefront of focus. I hope any of this helps. Best wishes.
@nofriendszone711
@nofriendszone711 2 года назад
I dont like how he said he might be wrong, this resonated with me THE MOST. Love ya JP
@allenbinion1575
@allenbinion1575 6 лет назад
I think many people never feel that darkness, and God blessed them deeply. But I understand exactly what you mean. Some are born with a dark turn of mind. A lifelong battle to subdue their own viciousness.
@leahracquelGibson
@leahracquelGibson 2 года назад
I flipping love this man and his thoughts. How lucky are his students?!
@samdiab1418
@samdiab1418 2 года назад
My thoughts exactly
@Helicopterpilot16
@Helicopterpilot16 6 лет назад
See, I watch this, I hear it, I agree with it, it all makes perfect sense. In the morning it will be like it never happened. Maybe I just need to watch this and other videos each and every day to keep my mind off of the darkness within me. I watch these videos last week and felt better the next day but then the darkness came back. I watch this again and I am refreshed with the truth of life's issues and problems and our ignorances for what cause our fall. I want to rise, not to be king but to fly like a bird. That's my biggest wish.
@Fear_the_Nog
@Fear_the_Nog 6 лет назад
Tyler H Well, Rome wasn't built in one day. Chill out. Take your damn time.
@danielkerby3834
@danielkerby3834 6 лет назад
The point is to face your darkness, not keep your mind off of it.
@darkrangerl
@darkrangerl 6 лет назад
Tyler H I see you're trying to avoid whats in your head. I'd suggest to pick up pen and paper or word on a laptop and write all that comes to mind. Let it flow whatever comes when your thinking about your darkest thoughts let it out. It gives you the power to let it go. Once you've done this you'll feel you have gave it a place. Please let me know how this went for you, if it helped I'll give you my second advice as to how you can fly like a bird.
@hyperspacejester7377
@hyperspacejester7377 6 лет назад
But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you... so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also - Kahlil Gibran
@itsacat2301
@itsacat2301 2 года назад
He is one of the most intelligent speakers I've ever heard. Watching his interviews are also interesting because seeing how he speaks and takes time to think before answering makes you better able to see his intelligence and realize that he's very informed and seems to know what he's talking about. I only say seems because I'm not informed enough to say everything is fact and correct. I assume so because he seems to answer he doesn't know to what he doesn't.
@evenfrank5223
@evenfrank5223 2 года назад
Jordon Peterson is constantly call you to the heroic adventure. You may not be a wizard, but you're capable of magical things, good or evil.
@kblankenship5870
@kblankenship5870 2 года назад
Perfectly clear and freeing. I know my worth is in my identity and my heart filled with Love and I AM in battle my mind to protect my treasures.
@jsyvret472
@jsyvret472 2 года назад
I've heard it before, but that part about losing a relationship with the truth in society hit me. I live in a very far left wing, progressive city in england. More and more I'm meeting new people who espouse things I heavily disagree with and i say nothing for fear of social suicide. For example on multiple occasions I've been told that the fact I'm a CIS white male means i essentially cant understand suffering or strife and dont really have a say due to my privilege. Despite the fact I grew up in a council house with a family on seriously low income, and have at 26 only just got a job above minimum wage. Also listening to conversations about how the west is only a patriarchal oppressive society that needs a communist revolution to be saved. I think my silence is a combination of fear and the fact I dont know if I can articulate myself properly in a situation where 5-10 people are perceiving me and an alt right, oppresive, patriarchal male and I need to not only prove to them that's not true, but also show them that their views are the ones that are going to damage society. I guess it's a case of saying what I really think and accepting the fact I'm going to lose 90% of my friends. But I guess it's better to keep that 10% who either agree with you, or don't find the disagreement reason to dislike you
@samjubran7315
@samjubran7315 2 года назад
You just articulated everything honestly and intelligently. Please know this. Unfortunately, many will not listen, not reason through or examine the facts. Also know that true friends will always embrace your individuality even if they don't agree with you. It is not easy. I have lost many who have convinced themselves that I am suddenly a danger, a monster of every stripe...these are people who have known me for years and should know better! Good luck to you. Thank you for your comment. Do the brave thing...new friends will find you!
@jsyvret472
@jsyvret472 2 года назад
@@samjubran7315 really appreciate you saying that. I guess we all have a responsibility to the truth that we have to start taking seriously in these strange and potentially dangerous times
@flamesarisen9446
@flamesarisen9446 6 лет назад
This man needs an audience with the world. He understands how to stop this duality of left vs right.
@Macinhd777
@Macinhd777 5 лет назад
I want to stop the video cause I overthink and don't like thinking about disturbing situations. But I have so much faith in his teachings that I know by the end I will reach some sort of enlightenment.
@dianafrank1567
@dianafrank1567 6 лет назад
He reminds me of a modern day Atticus Finch
@jayortiz789
@jayortiz789 6 лет назад
I see that Jordan Peterson was feeling for those affected by those atrocities mention. I may be wrong, but it looks like he's also trying to understand the mindset of those responsible for them. I can relate to your passion. God bless you. You are a rare breed from the good Lord. He has chosen you to help heal the world of these evils that live here on Earth..
@jmh1189
@jmh1189 6 лет назад
I've got so many "dank memes" suggestions from RU-vid, I accidentally read the the title as handling your dankest feelings.
@user-kw9hg9o
@user-kw9hg9o 6 лет назад
They say those can't be handled
@nabilm.c.6705
@nabilm.c.6705 6 лет назад
Sergeant Shultz and after the vid you hear "curb your enthusiasm" and start questioning life... ahh such is the cycle of dankness
@Jer20.9
@Jer20.9 5 лет назад
He calls upon us to take responsibility for the darkness in us, but doesn't have the way, the truth and the life to do it.
@kalamazootrades6484
@kalamazootrades6484 Год назад
Listening to this as I work out right down the street from Columbine, such sad circumstances
@jason002YT
@jason002YT 3 года назад
Peterson has incedible insight into the human condition
@ifeellikeacartoon
@ifeellikeacartoon 7 лет назад
Once I realized that if I commit suicide consciousness is in every one, and as far as I can see I am consciousness itself, reality itself, only it only exists with consciousness. So my suffering goes nowhere. This organism goes blank but my true self lives in everything living. So either kill all life/human life, or try and alleviate suffering in your life in in your other lives. Ride the wave. Anything in between is akin to self harm.
@TheWisdomLibraryOfficial
@TheWisdomLibraryOfficial Год назад
When you have something to say, silence is a lie.
@waji78611
@waji78611 2 года назад
YOU are to blame for the things going wrong in YOUR life is a great way of thinking and being.. why? It means ONLY YOU can change whats going wrong and YOU have the ultimate power.. I love this idea .. that could bring up so many negative feelings has an ultimately positive outlook to life ..
@HunterLeaderPro
@HunterLeaderPro 2 года назад
How do I know when I'm facing my demons? How do I know I'm being truly honest with myself? I think I am but I really can't tell anymore.
@50iraqidinar
@50iraqidinar 7 лет назад
Jordan is good at telling people how to "straighten themselves out." He never confronts the question of why it's worth doing so (as opposed to killing oneself). I've watched many of his videos. He's silent on the matter, as he is in this video in which he had the opportunity to touch upon the subject directly. He got close toward the end, but there seems to be some gap deep down in his meta-ethics that prevents him from honestly asking, "What's the point of it all?" I think he knows the answer. But he also knows he can't admit it to himself. This is just my impression, but he strikes me as someone who's been down that road before and doesn't want to go back at all costs. He reminds me of Peter W. Zapffe somewhat, in his way of speaking about existential issues, except I think Zapffe was much more honest and consistent in taking his train of thought toward its ethical conclusion (antinatalism). Peterson is too pragmatically minded to grapple with the question 100% honestly, and that's a shame. He's a smart guy, and wise in some ways. If only he could shed all that desperate reactionary nonsense about building families and submitting to tradition. He's happy to carry the boulder, pass it along to others who didn't ask for it, and tell you it's all for the best. Ask him what's at the top of the hill. And he blinks. "Get back to work." God bless him, I can tell he means well. I'm glad some people find inspiration in his words.
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 7 лет назад
QuisUtTiamat yeah he doesn't necessarily say why, that's left up to the determination of you, the listener
@chano176
@chano176 7 лет назад
QuisUtTiamat something along the lines of reducing suffering
@Mygary
@Mygary 7 лет назад
QuisUtTiamat what if the final question of meaning in life comes down to everyone's individual subjective view, and is not dependent on how humanity as a whole defines it? What if he is just taking the optimistic approach at the end of the road?
@russv.winkle8764
@russv.winkle8764 7 лет назад
Maybe he sees that it's all absurd and very enjoyment in life is that its Sisyphean.
@50iraqidinar
@50iraqidinar 7 лет назад
I'm hearing what y'all are saying, and yes, they're all valid approaches to the question. I'm just lamenting the fact that Peterson doesn't seem to want to tackle the question, even when given the opportunity. I would like to hear what he has to say.
@user-bl3si3kq6x
@user-bl3si3kq6x 2 года назад
The mass shooter suicide content is brutal. This guy is amazing
@Subtlenimbus
@Subtlenimbus 7 лет назад
Decoding the Edgelord
@tclexi
@tclexi 2 года назад
Protect this man
@leonabarkell1809
@leonabarkell1809 2 года назад
We have set up an illusive and false goal for our children. We have told them their aim should be happiness and self fulfilment. This keeps them focused on their wants a desires. Life is hard and the acts that serve others make it meaningful!
@damienevans2178
@damienevans2178 7 лет назад
About Columbine, it was clear these kids parents left them to their own devices and were not offering any actual guidance/ parenting. This is absolutely encouraged 24/7 in the west. The saying goes "an idle mind is the devils workshop". We are letting a generation down over here. Dad left? It's argueable Dad is popularly considered a non entity in the west, anything about men is considered laughable here. Men don't accept being sidelined anywhere, even here. Dad doesn't speak up or leaves because he's constantly maligned, especially in America. It takes a man and a woman to make a child- it also takes both to raise it properly. Sorry if that doesn't fit the new narrative but we sure seem to have a lot of problems with the new way of upbringing- fyi if you don't Raise a child nothing good will come of you're decision to have one.
@vodkacannon
@vodkacannon 7 лет назад
Damien Evans Eric harris can't get guidance, he was a straight up psychopath. Dylan on the other hand...
@sigma6656
@sigma6656 6 лет назад
Vodka, It's unlikely that he was born a psychopath. He may have been more genetically predisposed to it but that doesn't mean that he was irredeemable before he commited the massacre.
@stockinettestitch
@stockinettestitch 6 лет назад
There is a video by Klebold’s mother on TED. Very interesting.
@dinahsoar6982
@dinahsoar6982 6 лет назад
@Sigma Psychopaths are delusional. Not born that way, but once they develop (at an early age according to the experts) they are generally speaking irredeemable. Sounds harsh and unloving I know. The reality is that psychopaths are cunning and feel no remorse. They are incapable of empathy. All they exist for is supply. To the onlooker they can appear harmless. But beware. They are skilled predators that would gut you like a fish and never feel any remorse whatsoever.
@sigma6656
@sigma6656 6 лет назад
meh, I dunno. The big guy was only 18 at the time of the massacre. I could understand a psycho past 30 being irredeemable, but at 17 and 18 they barely had any life experience. I'm not saying that people who commit crimes like that shouldn't be punished because of any misplaced faith in redemption, I'm only saying that they probably could have been saved up to a few weeks before the incident.
@warrenpreiss8236
@warrenpreiss8236 7 лет назад
Now I write this cautiously because I have tremendous appreciation for Jordan Peterson. Please discuss! I suspect Peterson appreciates the metaphoric truths of the Old Testament (very accurately), yet undervalues a pivotal truth expressed in the New Testament. Namely Grace, and - what Fritz Perls called the topdog vs. underdog. What he describes here with Cain is essentially the topdog/underdog split. Here is Jennifer Mackewn: "The more the aware or controlling part tries to change, the more the unaware parts may resist; so change which is driven by willpower, coercion or persuasion is likely to be short-lived, because it is inherently divisive and dualistic and engenders a split in the vital energies of the person between unassimilated introjects of externally imposed rules and the other aspects of the self which can manifest as rebellion, passive aggression or apparent but lifeless conformity. Those parts of ourselves that we disown or try to deny have great unacknowledged power and the 'underdog' is inclined to win, as anyone who has ever made New Year's resolutions and then 'found' that they have dropped them a week later may well recognise." So for Cain, the New Testament (or Gestalt) approach is to stop battling against himself (as symbolised by Old Testament God’s blaming leading to a worsening of his acts) and instead to honestly contact the truth - including the truth of those less understood or aware 'vital energies' that (in being less known) led him to be vulnerable to the attraction of seductive and destructive acts in the first place. The underdog energies that were misappropriated (by insufficiently developed or entirely dysfunctional conceptual schemes) and so led to those depraved actions will at best be temporarily shamed or coerced into lifeless submission (or at worst provoked into monstrous malevolence!) by the judgemental topdog (symbolised by the Old Testament God). Alternatively if bought into awareness with full acceptance and understanding of what they are actually about - and the fact that they are real and DO come from 'somewhere' - then they can be known and their energy productively utilized (or released and dispersed if this is the case) in other ways. Honestly witnessing with a view to organising and resolving ALL the parts of our intrapsychic battle is the solution. And this starts with removing the shame and listening to what is actually going on. We do not discover our ultimately divine nature by lambasting the failed and unintegrated aspects of ourselves. Doing so only makes them go 'underground' and become surreptitious, and steadily grow larger and more out of control (as with Cain). Not only is Jesus "dying for the sins of mankind" symbolic of demonstrating that sin lives within all of us, it is also - perhaps more importantly - symbolic of transcending the negative human consequences of (and failure of) Old Testament legalism. Jesus rejects the resultant self-lambasting of the sinner for the sin - which leads to more sin and suffering rather than less - "Which is easier, to say ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise up and walk’?”". The Old to New Testament is a spiritual progression from the states of externally imposed structure and discipline (necessary for childhood) to the transcending adult response-ability and maturity (integrated self-discipline and self-structure), and experience of the divine as a 'mystical union'. It is an expression of the fact that our sins (within us) are not ultimately our 'fault' and that the experience of this revelation is what enables us to transcend our sins (rather than remain slave to them and so bound to forever repeat them) and to 'sin no more' and become ‘of the spirit’. This is essentially Arnold Beisser’s ‘Paradoxical Theory of Change’. "Change occurs when one becomes what he is, not when he tries to become what he is not. Change does not take place through a coercive attempt by the individual or by another person to change him, but it does take place if one takes the time and effort to be what he is -- to be fully invested in his current positions. By rejecting the role of change agent, we make meaningful and orderly change possible. "
@RalphSasso
@RalphSasso 2 месяца назад
"Irrational impulse to an unwise urge." Niel Peart.
@Thundr3y
@Thundr3y 4 месяца назад
We are not always responsible for our own lifes. Meaning... There are a lot of interactions in life that make us not be able to be happy. And, sometimes, others are directly or indirectly responsible for our own unhappiness. It doesn't mean that we have to blame the other, but recognize that and make something about it.
@natali2able
@natali2able 2 года назад
Thank God for Peterson.
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