sometimes this man scares the hell out of me, and others, I get a sense of overwhelming hope for the future. I love this man and feel fortunate to live in this time.
So much truth in this...worst decision of my life was not to move out as soon as I left high school..Remaining with your parents will only cripple you in the long run.
Could you elaborate more on this, please? How did it affect you personally? I have one more year of high school and I'm 19. I'm noticing the crippling effects already.
It must be because it's all truth and we are finally breaking away from our lies that we tell ourselves because in our heart we know that not trying to go to that ideal future is far more painful than having tried. I hope one day I can thank this man for giving me my life back.
I had to change my bank account password at age 32 in order to stop my mother from putting money into my account. One of the best decisions I ever made...
My father was a secondary schoolteacher - that is 13 -18 years age group.We were talking once about a student teacher who was very 'smart' and yet completely interested in the students success. He said to me concerning this person "The sign of a truly intelligent person was someone who was academically brilliant, but who could then turn around and explain a concept to class of 15 year olds and they understood it. JP has this. Marvelous.
Jordan is the wind in the trees which blows the branches of doubt off the foliage of life , he is the voice of the mute depressives, and the outstretched hand to the downtrodden. Thankyou Mr peterson.
"The only way to become a man is to kill your dad" Cynical yes, but one of the greatest quotes to tell a young man. Just be sure to explain that it is a symbolic death, not a literal one.
"If you do not listen to the thing that beckons you forward, you will pay for it like you cannot possibly imagine. You'll have everything that's terrible about life in your life and nothing about it that's good - and worse: you'll know that it was your fault and that you squandered what you could've had." - 5:08
This in so profound it is beyond humbling, the part of me in my head is screaming THERE IT IS THATS IT! Break away to live not to destroy what has kept you comfortable.
I wish you could have played this a little longer - this was the heart of what I needed to hear - plan for a future that meets your needs and does not unravel the universe and benefits those around you. There is no down side to that.
YT took Peterson down for a while? Is this true? Surprised I missed it because I tune in so often. He, and others, kind of need their own channel. It's not good to to rely on these venues.
YT said he had violated the terms of agreement but they would say how, and wouldn't respond to his query. After a bunch of negative public outrage, they reinstated it. All in all, a few hours of crisis.
I was over-protected by my mother and suffer from enmeshment trauma. I struggle to overcome it every day and it makes everything so hard, especially in dating and relationships.
In our generation we say that we need hear the wisdom of our founding fathers, read the best books, and hear the most magnificent music. In the next generation Jordan Peterson will be among that Pantheon of intellectuals 👏
Amazing right! I was thinking about it last week. There are so many people who didn't get proper support, to help them grow to somekind of long term sustainable adulthood. But happily, there are sparks of light, in terms of technologies like for example RU-vid, which can connect you to some good, high quality people, whom which you can extract a lot of wisdom. To me, it feels like somekind of life course I can do from my own home (what a time to be alive). Offcourse I lack some personal coaching, offcourse there is this distant thing, offcourse it also put a lot more life responsibility on your shoulders, but overall; this gives people some fighting change man! And that is really a good thing.
I never idolized anyone in my life. But this man, is worth my every attention. He's intelligent and articulate, but most importantly, he's very humble. I aspire to become like him.
Do it! I deleted my Facebook in December 2016, and it was the best thing. You don't need a collection of superficial relationships, what you need is a few good friends that are loyal, who you can trust and will be there when Facebook cannot.
I can't believe how much he admirs his "teacher" Jung and his "teachers" about their discoverys and how it could thear you to pieces but he does it so much better.
"You have to sacrifice that that's most valuable to you, currently, that's stopping you. And God only knows what that is, it's certainly the worst of you". - I had to make that concrete and put it out into the real world to help process it.
"You have to sacrifice that which is most valuable to you currently, that's stopping you...it's certainly the worst of you....and god only knows what degree you're in love with the worst of you". Wow, I've never heard truer words.
I love Biblical truths. 2000 years and it's still relevant even though its seen to have caused a lot of suffering. Maybe if we all paid attention to people of wisdom instead of people of shallow appearance and spectacle, we could actually achieve the enlightenment necessary to live a full life without guilt. My favourite part about this truth is that it's a daily journey which we embark on over, and over again, so even if we don't get it today, it's okay because we still have time!
I've thought about that back when I was religious it seemed when ever I sinned, I would commit to not sin again, some times it worked others it didn't. But the times it didn't made me frustrated that I could never commit more in my mind or ever be more serious. How can one be more serious then saying I'm totally serious, while at the same time the bible says don't sacrifice or make offering, because that's all to akin to paganism. I do wonder if I had to give up something physical with a lot of worth when I made an error, I might not have made as many repeat errors. And while I'm Agnostic in my mind and atheist in belief. I think something profound has been lost with the loss of ritual. We practice no more rituals in my life, and it makes me wonder, what am I missing on a personal level.
I don't think I'll likely ever be superstitious again, I'm just thinking about what rituals I might come up with to help with just dealing with different emotions, only thing stopping me really is it would be weird doing stuff I don't believe in, or I don't know, I can't explain it.
The bible does say to make sacrifices -- but they are not burning something at an altar -- just giving up parts of you that you don't want to give up, but are getting in the way of living the way you think or know you should. The New Testament says should be sacrificing yourself -- "Die to self". People take that in different ways, but a lot of people I've known take it to mean they should deprive themselves of something they enjoy or something they can't honestly trust themselves with, so that they can take more steps toward the person they want to be. I'd wager even just the ability to do that displays strength of will and commitment enough to guarantee that you'll get where you're heading, so maybe that's what it is. If you can make the tough sacrifices, you can finish the trip.
Ever thought about meditating? I'm not particularly religious, but it is a ritual/practice I do enjoy, with scientifically proven benefits. It can either be used in the pursuit of spiritual enlightenment, or in the pursuit of inner peace. Or possibly both without even knowing it. I know Sam Harris is a big fan. Hah, along with howard stern. ...just a suggestion.
I wish I had had one percent of the guidance he is giving, I had to work it all out for myself. I guess ultimately everybody does. But looking for some explanation and encouragement about developing life skills used to be a long search, with a paucity of insightful professionals.
Yeah, I can really relate to you. It is like many people think they got it all figured out. You are young, you are ignorant, you are desperate for some guidance, and everything that suits your lifequestions, like moderately, is used like a quick patch, because there seems no alternative. When I was young, I can remember, I thought adult people had it all figured out :P. Even now, when I am myself becoming the adult, there is somekind of childish part of me, which wants to believe so badly, that we ultimately know, what this all is. Jordan really helps me, to become less arrogant and contemptuous, and more humble and open minded. But (there is always a but:)), I can also feel my anxiety growing, because old believe systems are getting more and more pressured. Dont like the feel of that.
I get the impression that he gives of himself to the point of exhaustion; BTW, I'm in my 70's and my life has been as he says-keep looking to the future, have something to look forward to and have what you need
"You are not committed to something unless you are willing to sacrifice for it. Commitment and sacrifice are the same thing... People are acting this out... it's breathtaking really when you understand what message is trying to be conveyed. What do you have to sacrifice? *You have to sacrifice that which is most valuable to you currently that's stopping you!*... It's certainly the worst of you, and God only knows to what degree you are in love with the worst of you." - 9:50
4:00: "You can't make yourself interested in something...interest manifests itself and grips you..."-If you are common trash, but not if you are a true Yogi, in which case cultivation of attention, mastery of desire and direction of interest is entirely in your control.
i fucked my life completely in 4 years and i reborn new ! And from what i have studied , this guy is very real . What he says is very close to reality . Is similar than stoicism but better and adapted to our days !
Jeff Bezos also said you don't choose your passions, your passions choose you. My own observations confirms what Bezos and JP are saying. I believe that life is really more of a journey of self discovery and working with that knowledge, rather than the process of willing whatever the intellect wants to existence. The intellect is only a portion of your being, but many people, especially hyper intellectual ones and those who walk through life with a lack of self awareness, live with the delusion that the chatter in their head is the entire self. This delusion causes people to constantly act in ways that are in conflict with their true self. I recommend everyone to try the ancient technique of meditation to let the body and mind fall away. Forget about the religious BS and just sit quietly straight an arrow for long stretches of time - it is amazing what you learn about yourself when you discover "non intellectual" existence. I recommend JP do the same since he, being a hyper intellectual, is at risk of getting too carried away with his own ideas.
i'm about to start my third year of my engineering degree at university and it's dawned on me, i'm not passionate about the subject. My dream is to be in a field of work where i can have some form of moral satisfaction, and do some good for people/nature. i've already been a failure/dissapointment most of my life, and finally i've found something within my grasp and i'm semi interested in, but i lack passion towards. i'm aware people all over the world do jobs they dont like, but I have no friends, no social life, no relationships. If all i have is a job i dislike i'm not entirely sure i won't just kill myself. I don't want to spend the rest of my life fixing aircraft/machines where there is no reward, but the risk is an aircraft falling out of the sky and 400 people dying because of me. What should I do?
Daddy Dana Yeah but every time the plane does land you just helped 400 people either reach their holidays and bond as family, friends or have new experiences to better themselves. You also may have aided a business person whose work may help 1000 people. Peterson talks about this a rippling effect. Who's to say your job doesn't better the world as much as a teacher say, just because it isn't as direct. if you invented a plane which saved 10 minutes on every flight, imagine the impact you're having on a grander scale with the amount of people flying. Just because your impacts are indirect doesn't mean they're less significant.
The degree/job you get from it can still be a means to an end - be it engineering systems that help people/nature or using the money from the job to do something constructive for family/community/etc. Find what would make the degree worth finishing and aim towards it (Peterson's idea).
There's this Idea out there that your working career should be a "passion" or a "life's goal" - i.e something more than just a job. This dangerous belief (which seems to be especially common in the USA) just *sets people up for a depressing crash* because for 99.9% of people in the world, work is not something we realy enjoy a great deal, it's something we all do because we need the money. That needn't be a reason for despair, though. Because you can make _other_ things your passion in life - hobbies, family, small business-ideas, inventions (family is really the most important one - and the most fulfilling/rewarding). If one of those things should _happen_ to turn into something you can make money from - great! But don't rest all your hopes of happiness on work also being a passion. When thinking about jobs/career, instead of thinking "What is the ideal?" or "What is the passion I want to make a career?" think: "What job can I handle?" What can I stand to do? What kind of work am I suited for? What will bring in enough money, without too-much stress?" - Then look for passion elsewhere in life. Hoping to be one of the 0.01% who by chance (usually) get to do a job they really enjoy is setting yourself up for emotional disaster.
For some reason I have a strong tendency to sabotage myself. And I think that it's because I already have so much. Which means I have so little to gain and so much to lose. But if I just lose a lot then afterwards there is a whole road ahead of me full of new opportunities and improvement without much risk of failure. Now if I was 60 and already went from the bottom to the top. It would be different. But I was born into wealth and an intelligent, loving family. If I screw this up that will just show as high incompetence. But I might just fail because of that pressure.
There is nothing worse than losing that, you are right it will show gross incompetence. Do not squander what you have. If you do you will know the lowest depths of hell and there is almost no way of getting out of it. If you are blessed like that you must use it to your advantage so that it is to the advantage of others. Do yourself a favour and read Proverbs 29:1 and download this video and take this advice.
Jesper Locher they say the greatest way to live ones life is in the service of others in need. That means using your privilege and position to alleviate unnecessary suffering in our society.. whatever that means to you. That will lift you up beyond any measure and truly satisfy your sense of being. We are all brothers here on this earth, what happens to our neighbour effectively happens to us in the great scheme of things...
"if you do not listen to what beckons you foward you will pay for it like you cannot possibly believe...you will have everything that's wrong with your life in your life...and worse you will know that it's your fault and you squandered the opportunity you had."
what stops people simple fear, unpredictability, conflicting goals/desires, injustice, too much effort required not enough results within reasonable time frames, and lets not forget about competition with fellow humans for the same things! What about being stopped or at least severely inhibited by circumstances beyond one's control socioeconomic status, health problems, biological deficits, intellectual deficits, emotional distress, addiction and other (easy "Ways out") Its no great mystery why people do not "move forward" I think pretending that there is is itself an effort to deny how shitty reality can be. The benefit of being Jordan Peterson is being able to talk about abstract concepts as if they were divorced from reality and one's short comings are instead all the result of Neo Fruedian conflicts which if you could only FIGURE out life would still be "hard" but also "worth it" and give people a "way forward" It may be a useful philosophy against "nihilism" but it hardly fixes things the way they are or gives people any more "insight" than they had before. Sol its a lot easier to minimize people's "real problems" as "psychoanalytic" troubles than it is to actually solve them and come up with decent straightforward solutions to them because when your audience is literally EVERYONE practical solutions would be impossible to lecture about given the diversity of problems which exist. They also won't be nearly so near and orderly as to be able to fit into mini lectures such as this. When someone's house is about to be foreclosed on its not because they are suffering from the "worse parts of themselves" which prevents moving forward its due to everyday ordinary life stress which demands immediate easy solutions which do not come about with psycho analysis. Same can be said for disease, or not finding compatible partners, or grieving the death of valued people whom die The list goes on and on none of which have anything to do with Carl Jung. So as much as I like Jordan the more general and abstract he gets the less real any of his lectures seem to me
"You can't make yourself interested in something; interest manifests itself and grips you! That's a whole different thing... It's divine as far as you're concerned because it grips you and you can't do anything about it." - 4:00 "But you're compelled forward by your interest. And so the idea that what moves you away from your country and your father's house and the comforts of your childhood home is something that's beyond you, that you listen to and harken to - that's exactly right! And you can say: 'Well, I don't want to call that God.' It's like... it doesn't matter you call it, exactly. It doesn't matter to what it is, what it's called - it still is." - 4:28
Dr. P, in his own existence, is a psychedelic experience similar to that of a real psychoactive drug. thats just how it feels for me. he'll reveal yourself to you. he will make you hyper aware of yourself and others. he will even shine a light on your own undeniable shadow, which for some might be frightening. so damn grateful
these biblical lectures deserve repeated viewings for sure, some of them seem to make more and more sense the more I listen. The first time I heard those talks, I felt like I was understanding and absorbing most of the content, but I found out later I wasn't.
What Jordan says is very interesting, and is a solution that I think should be used to dilute a lot of peoples personalities, BUT I his idea that competency, authority, and power are absolutely 1 to 1 correlated INCREDIBLY idealistic and more realistically a fallacious belief.
"You look at the world through a story, you can't help it. And the story is what gives value to the world, or, the story is what you extract from the value world - you can look at it either way. You're somewhere and it's not good enough, you know, that's the eternal human predicament... To some degree that's actually a good thing because if it were good enough there's nothing for you to do!" - 6:34 "You want to be going somewhere that's good enough so that the going is worth the while. And you can ask yourself that... 'What would make the journey worthwhile?' 'Alright, in order up under this load, what would I need to be striving to attain?' And to ask yourself that is to knock, 'and the door with open', that's what that means; if you ask yourself that, then you will find an answer!" - 7:52 "You'll shrink away from it and you'll think 'Well, there's no way I could do that.' It's like, well, you don't know what you could do. You don't know what's possible. And you're not as much as you could be, and God only knows what you could do and have and give if you sacrificed everything to it... The act of sacrificing something may have some dramatic compulsion to it... might be a way of indicating to yourself that you're actually serious about something... It's possible that these people knew something that we don't." - 8:31