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What do you mean by “thank”? What do you mean by “you”? What do you mean by “for”? What do you mean by “listening”? What do you mean Lex!? What do you mean?!?!? Be precise with your speech!!!!😭
@@JaeTylerS Lol I still feel bad for this dude. Man was a totally normal and honestly great academic with a lot of really good lecture material out there (see his original maps of meaning course). Then SOMEBODY drove him crazy by sending him a weird email about Kaballah. I regret that honestly, I thought he was prepared for the information, but unfortunately he got all the wrong ideas. It's a weird time where you win some you lose some. Some people get the wrong idea and turn into religious zealots, some people actually learn to reflect.
@@steel5897 To be fair, he produced a lot of content on psychology and philosophy for a long time, but only became famous when he opposed a woke law in Canada, and many people, including me, learn about him only because of it. So for me it's a bit complicated, but I largely agree.
I would actually argue he hasn't become political, he's become more religious. Despite me being Christian, I actually don't have interest into such topics and listened to him to learn about life in the first place. So I don't follow his content much anymore
I can attest to growing out of a psychotic ideology. I was an anonymous troll on the internet and extremely immature until a year or so ago. I'm 36 now. In retrospect, I can't believe some of the things I've said to people on the internet. I was just cynical, angry, and immature. You can break the spell, but you have to be willing to witness the evil within yourself and direct it towards yourself, which can scare you into not wanting to deal with the consequences of your past. JP has been a love-hate for me, but I owe him for helping me search for peace within myself so I can project it outward.
Jeez a foul mood was daily at least even in joy and thrilling days.. I was disgusted I'm grateful I did it had the experience of both sides... I still do it on occasion... Wow... I am my own asshole.
Can I ask a person question after ripping into someone on the internet what would it do for you? I am not asking to be judgmental, just curious was it just fun made you laugh or were you in a state of anger?
Lex, you’ve come so far. Your rebuttals are so much more composed, articulate and sophisticated. You get a lot of undeserved stick, but you’re truly one of the best we have.
@@dominiquelaflamme7804 I'm increasingly suspecting my reading of Nietzsche has been too shallow. Are my disagreements with him well-grounded? 🤔 I wonder now.
and serial killers like john wayne gacy, the worst of humanity, while his favorite philosopher died a lonely loser who was essential ostracize by everyone in his life. The complete irony and lack of awareness will never cease to amaze me.
Hey Dr. Peterson, I think I might have reached the second step of the 12 steps program. I thought I was being truly honest to myself and then I realized through prayers that I wasn't. And I got it off my chest and I felt serenity for the first time after having a huge craving. Feels good man. One day at a time.
I know what Jordan means, at least in part, regarding his illness. I went through a period of addiction and withdrawal, far too young to understand what a giant mistake I had made in my late teen years, that lasted 4 years. Every day of withdrawal is the worst period imaginable, eclipsed in horror and abjection only by losing a loved one. This was over a decade ago, and I wouldn't trade those terrible experiences for anything. I'm glad I learned those lessons young. I have since had the resilience to run marathons, be the first in my family to get a college degree, start my own business and succeed at running it for 3 years, get married to a wonderful woman, and have 3 children who light up my world. Going through the brutality and horror of facing your own death, over and over again, has a way of hardening you against the trials of is life. Suffering makes us unimaginably strong in the face of future hardships.
Sadly mr 'she took my stuff' gets 1,000 likes and yours just a few. People, especially men, don't like hearing such things as you have to say. They seem to prefer buddies who will sit with them on the misery heap wailing pitifully about how difficult life is. I would ask that men such as yourself repeat your story regularly to counteract in some way the prevalent messages to so many. 😔
What Jordan says here is spot on. I had standards far above my capabilities applied to me by a father who was unable to foster an encouraging relationship. It didn’t take too long for me to despise him and not trust him, and of course he resented me for this and I left the house as soon as I turned 18. We reconciled years later as he was dying of a brain tumour. Indeed I was the only person with him when he died. Years on from that as I reflect on it all my advice to fathers is err in the side of nurturing your children rather than pushing them. They need both, but if you are going to fail in one of those aspects it really shouldn’t be the loving and encouraging part that suffers.
right.... lot of parents simply project and pass on their pressures and gripes to kids and call that "mentoring" or some other word.... when current modern world is such merciless place especially mentally, emotionally, that nurturing part is what differentiates high achievers. It is not hard to be Arnold or top engineer, but it is extremely tough to stay that way for years and that is all about "nurturing" part. I get with "old world" physical things pushing may work but in sports there is other side of problem when it is only pushing, people have serious injuries for life without nurturing.. we are so efficient society and culture that performance part comes without nobody even asking, it is ingrained in each of us already pushing too hard.
Exactly.. This is soo spot on. Erring to the side of love and nurture I feel actually amplifies the effectiveness of the discipline & order imposing side in the long run.
@@khaledtaha4814if you really watched this entire interview and walked away thinking “wow, that was entertaining; I had fun”, instead of having an intellectual experience then I feel you missed the point.
I love Lex's interview style - he is inquisitive and challenging but also allows the other individual to speak. This is an amazing interview to learn more about Dr. Peterson's view of things. Really enjoyed this and grateful that Lex created this podcast.
JP keeps improving his messaging. He's very handy now with switching into Bible stories, for example. Adroit, even. With all that public speaking, he gets a lot of practice, which is a good thing when you've got gifts.
Been a while since I’ve heard Dr. P talk about Crumb. I love hearing him talk about Crumb. He’s right. It’s an extraordinary documentary. Extraordinarily difficult to watch, too.
It’s incredible how interesting JBP is when he’s talking about literature and how it relates to psychology and society in general. He has an incredibly unique perspective and interesting way of interpreting things. It’s great. When he does culture wars and religion I just instantly switch off, and it turns so many against him. Unfortunate. I think overall he’s a great guy.
overall a "great guy" who has friendly chats with netanyahu and shills for the state of israel. He has long been groomed to be a propagandist for israeli interests. there's really nothing unique or profound about this guy, there never has been. he just has a large vocabulary range.
@@copopopocoporododoro The Palestinian cause is the biggest propaganda for 70 years and still, and the Pro Palestine people are the biggest propagandists or victims of propaganda. Propaganda mainly takes shape and comes out of closed dictatorial societies with no self awareness, like the Arab world that I'm from. Netanyahu is democratically elected in a country defending itself and the internal political issues in Israel don't have anything to do with the war, the same could have happened under the most liberal government in Israel. Nonetheless I think Peterson is a pseudo-intellectual.
The depth and precision of thought that Jordan just expresses in a fluent stream of consciousness, similarly to how other people might talk about the weather, is extraordinary, all I can do is just listen and hope that I remember even a quarter of it.
Practicing in the mirror is excellent way to practice the best way is to get some cheap security cameras Mount them so they can hear and see where you are anywhere in the house It took me forget where they are completely And based on my experience I would try to wait about a year at least through several different seasons of cold and hot and whatnot as our moods and attitudes change and when I started watching them I could only go about 2 or 3 minutes into any discussion It took me another year after I tried the second time to watch them When I finally did after another year managed to watch through the various things that were times when I was having conversations that weren't jovial it was It changed my behavior For about 10 years and the ego came back and maybe time for me to do this again it's been about 30 years
It's the underlying philosophy and wisdom that sticks I find, I don't agree with a few things he says but it didn't matter for hearing what he really was saying.
His "depth and precsion of thought" is just thesaurus-fueled word salad. He is not a serious philosopher, and no serious thinkers take him seriously. He is successful, but then again so is Kim Kardashian.
Stay with Eliade. Though nowadays is considered overrated. Peterson is a pathetic loser incapable of an original idea. And he's a prorussian. As a romanian I can tell you that in his visit in Romania, his eastern-european tour, he didn't talk with the best people. "Not by any stretch of imagination". (Because he was blinded more on his drug addiction treatment in Russia?) As a canadian I can tell you that he's a shame for Canada, he's a renegade as university professor and practitioner pshycologist, and I hope that americans will keep him for good. He's on RFK jr wagon now., and on Shapiro payroll.
I used to listen JP lectures, first with translations, then without them, I thought my English became pretty good. But turns out, you just get used to one person vocabulary. You need to listen different people to really get better. Still on my way :)
@@zamplt Of course I am listening different people not just JP. I was just thinking that if I can listen stuff like JP talking that is another level of English. Years back I was watching mostly bodybuilders day in life videos etc.. I learned English mostly from RU-vid listening podcast of all kinds from military like Shawn Ryan show, bodybuilding and other sports, health, life style, biochemistry, physiology, random stuff like Joe Rogan, about nature etc.. But maybe the most I really enjoy to listen stuff about Universe, Astrophysics and philosophy.. So it is very wide range of topics and people and because I am listening literally hours a day I don't need to translate it in my head. I basically hear more English than my native language lol. I want to move into Netherlands from Czech Republic to work there for better money. So that will force me to not just listen, but to speak as well. I am sure I will learn much more by actively using English much more than just listening..
@@giuoco Maybe he helped this person see that they have meaning. Some people don’t get that from anyone else in their life. I don’t care what saves someone-if JP and his message save someone, why judge? Be happy they’re still here.
I've been cleaning my room for 3 years since I discovered Jordan Peterson's lectures and my room (now home office) have become not only organized, but exceedingly functional and sophisticated. Somehow my income have multiplied over fivefold just by being in this room that makes me productive, and I become capable to not only support myself financially, but also my parents as well. I believe I owe this all to that man.
Jordan's a great thinker. No doubt about it. The point about not judging a person entirely based on their worst is a great reminder and something that we do far too often today. Thanks for having this conversation Lex
@@Andrew-ri5qo - He was a letdown then, though he seems to have changed his opinions on the handling of the pandemic and supposed "scientific" instructions and the institution of Science post-pandemic. One of the few areas where I disagreed clearly with him. At least we should not ( in the spirit of the OP's comment ) judge him based on his worst and/or mistakes.
" A human being is an expression of will, rather than a mechanism of self-protection and security; a key thought of life force in human beings as something that strived, not to protect itself, but to exhaust itself in being and becoming ". 10:45 - Talking about Nietzche idea of human experience
I just read in the introduction to the myth of sisyphus: " O my soul, do not aspire to immortal life, but exhaust the limits of the possible" - Pindar, Pythian lll
I know quite a few young, disenchanted men on the left that would greatly benefit from Jordan’s wisdom and guidance. It’s a shame he’s been so politicized. I don’t tend toward conspiratorial thinking, but I can’t help but feel they are more useful to their party in a weakened state.
@@gabekill3400 Assuming you mean you haven't heard of the Clean your room method, Peterson promotes it as a crucial step to get people out of a repetitive unmotivated, lazy mindset. Some people struggle with a genuine inability to get themselves moving without small, initial steps
“Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.” Romans 5:3-5
53:07 , Dr. Peterson Nietzsche's 'will to power' isn't about manipulating interests, but embracing life's challenges. His values aren't fabricated, but discovered through individual growth. He never advocated for arbitrary values BUT HE JUST TOLD TO QUESTION TRADITIONAL VALUES .
Yup, he is simplifying him to suit his views right and left for people who havent read nitchze. Nitchze also said in antichrist that the peddlers of bible by building on them and explaining like peterson is the lowest of them all.But he wouldnt quote that lol. I still think jordans heart is in the right place as he is helping a lot of people when nobody is doing that as well as he is.But the christianity and conservatism he is pushing is too much on the nose.Would be nice of him to talk about income inequality for once for him to acknowledge world is much harder than his times, being a white male straight canadian when he was coming up. What he is pushing for as a solution to young people is faith in reality and yourself in this interview.Basicly magic or as new age people call manifestation,same idea.I think that works,but you gotta know how to do that exactly.
@@equaco Right JP is a good person but his clinging to Christianity clouds his judgement . He is nowhere near the level of Nietzsche who's ideas are so hard to disprove rationally . In the end everyone says that well his ideas are unethical and immoral so we're not gonna listen to it. FAILING TO REALIZE TRUTH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT MORALS AND ETHICS .
No, Peterson is right, even if his understanding of the concept of ubermensch is somewhat equivocated. Look, Nietzche didn't say "question traditional values"; quite clearly he said that god is dead and even wrote a book called the Antichrist. His ideas lead directly to the fact that the ubermensch is someone who autonomously creates his own valurses (even if he borrows them from ancient cultures). And, of course, this is unworkable, people can't create values that can replace culture. It was a desperate way that Nietzsche found to solve the problem of nihilism, and he failed, in my view.
@raphaelturrasprenger7394 Antichrist was nitchze dismantling everything about christianity and church and shitting all over it though..It can be read against any ideology or religion or authority which is very freeing to see a man of nitchzes caliber siding against intellectual banalness and tyranny.I dont think it supports your point though? Nitchze is all about dismantling what is shit and limiting mentally and letting a new man emerge in my view.He is almost always critisizing.He even says in will to power that he is a true absolute nihilist in this sense that he wont leave anything behind. Freud would say he is using the destructive impulse against shit stuff, like peterson is using it against woke/trans movement.Peterson picked much easier enemy, trans people/movement who are barely getting recognized as people in this age.Thats why people are pissed at him that he doesnt acknowledge these and make good distinctions and labels people woke and marxist(there is doubts he has read him at all) left and right to be more comfortable in his conservatism and christianity. Nitchze said look at any philosopher or thinker and know that they are just peddling and justifying their own world view and beliefs.He has to become much more refined in what he battles these days.He doubled down on destructive impulses but reeling back a bit these days,after he exhausted talking about what he knows about best.Hopefully he can reel back from it even more as more you listen more you notice his destructive energy which is not targeted well. Anyways just general observations.
@@raphaelturrasprenger7394 Nietzsche's value creation is about self-overcoming, not cultural replacement. Embracing individual agency and complexity in the culture.(Someone like Napoleon , Alexander etc) Btw isn't JP's attempt to be pseudo- Christian a desperate attempt to solve nihilism , actually ?
Jordan I don’t agree with everything you say nor do I connect with some of your ideas… More importantly I admire your courage and effort to convey your ideas in the best way you can in our current environment. You are an inspiration to those of us who feel incredible sickness and suffering not by choice but as a by-product of our times. May god give you strength. Last time I saw you on Lex’s podcast I was in a very dark place and I wasn’t sure I’d make it much longer and I was concerned about you. I could feel you’re pain but in that your strength. I recall your words along the lines of “if you look hard enough in the darkness you will see the light”, Lex responded “are you sure?” and you said so honestly “I’m betting my life on it.”. That will stay with me for the rest of my life. Thank you so much. ❤
Heroic or Abrahamic adventure is a big part of the answer for humankind, but not everybody can be successful with this. As always for human beings the stronger should help the weaker and draw them up into the sociological Vortex. We all need Father and Mother figures and helpings of brotherly and sisterly love. Let’s do it because the alternative is so dire.
Peterson isn't just a deep thinker, he can maintain the complexities of depth in his memory while he speaks about them and explores them further every time he engages.
You know, Nietzsche once said "For thinkers and all sensitive spirits, boredom is that disagreeable "windless calm" of the soul that precedes a happy voyage and cheerful winds."
I can relate to the pain section so strongly. this week is three years of my injury and 12 years of my daily headache. Without pain I would be content in any situation; with my pain the smallest task seems tremendous of an effort
1:03:19 i am currently in the pursuit of the things that terrify me in life and i keep telling people that it’s led me on a pretty extraordinary journey, this is the first time i have heard someone else say it. I say everyone should chase their fears and live the beat of their lives in doing so
I love that disappointed sigh before he knowingly cherry picks Nietzsche and misrepresents him. It says something about your ideology reach for legitimacy by misrepresenting great thinkers who opposed it.
The best podcast with JP ever. Especially its first half. You can literally split the conversation or JP’s monologue into sequence of sentences and each sentence deserves to become a core concept for PhD thesis in the field of psychology, philosophy or sociology.
I find it intriguing that most of these comments relate to, 'cleaning my room.' There's a lot more here than that. It's arbitrary to consume only the basics of your own personal understandings. Listen again.
It's just a meme. 🤷 Also, it is a crucial meme. 🏆❤️ We are showing our thanks to Jordan, for giving us faith in the plan of "put the World (around you) in order, and it will be Good (better for you, and everyone). 💪 Love & Godspeed, to you 🙏❤
I understand completely what you mean, but be careful that the king doesn't kill the jester in your life. (Be willing to laugh and accept lower frequency, at times.) But there are a time and place for everything. And I do agree that joking around about cleaning your room, is quite shallow compared to these two and what is happening in this conversation. But to each their own. I'm not saying it's wrong, just different.
Next week Lex interviews Elon's new bot. They are long lost brothers... then finish off the episode a jujitsu match, winner takes control of Lex's podcast while the loser, if not destroyed, will be sent to Mars to colonize the future robots before humans get there and mess it up.
Phenomenal conversation so far. Jordan is breaking down elements of his Maps of Meaning theory that he taught at 90s Harvard & University of Toronto. Hearing the conversation about this topic with other unique & interesting people is fascinating.
I simultaneously find it hilarious and saddening when people dismiss Jordan and say that he tries to confuse the listener by using big words and complexity in his speech. You really think that a professor of 30 years and someone who speaks for a living isn't going to have a wide vocabulary? I personally love looking up words and learning what they mean if I haven't heard them before. People just really hate anything that feels like education or learning.
When you know what you are talking about you try to use simple words yo explain it to others, when you have nothing to say and want to disguise it you speak in word salad.
@@gonx9906 when you're less intelligent you need other people to dumb things down for you so you can understand it. I'm not trying to be an asshole but hating on him for using complex language to explain complex topics sounds like a you problem.
Well said. The "word salad" accusation is simply shorthand for "I am too lazy to look up words I don't know in a dictionary...and I resent people who are more educated and articulate than I am". The anti-Jordan trolls are a pathetic bunch.
@@gonx9906 I think you are half right. Think of it like this. If you want to know how to build a toaster a person can explain that you buy some wire, some heating elements, a screwdriver, and so on. However, if you actually want to build one, you may need to grab a dictionary to understand electrical engineering terminology. Some things lose meaning when simplified too far to the point that they become useless.
I like Jordan, but I do notice he tends to inflate his vocabulary in a way that it makes what he says less clear, and which could also be interpreted as a sign insecurity.
I'm 20 minutes in and I'm already lost for words. The quality and the depth of the speech is magnificent. The fluidity and clarity to express thoughts in such capacity of painting visual representations in the listener's mind, the quality in the artistically printed discourse is astonishing. I've loved that piece, but I've got something to tell you Lex, @lexfridman, I can't think of a gift more precious in this earth to give to my father, but as a Spanish speaker, he wouldn't be able to listen to it. I would deeply appreciate the possibility of showing it to him with the subtitles, I offer myself if it's necessary but I'd really like him to listen to this and many other conversations, Jordan has meant a lot to me in some tough times and I love my father and the hope that this episode or others could have at least 10% of the impact they've had on me is making me write this comment. Love you Lex. Thank you. Iñaki Lozano.
@@Ottee2I've actually applied for the web developer role, which is my actual profession, and I've done the translator application in the past, but haven't heard anything sadly.
Actually, I would really enjoy (I think) a Peterson interview with Andrew Tate. I find Andrew Tate's "analysis," as it were, haha, laughable and even destructive for young men (I'm well out of the life experience range of being personally vulnerable to his form of BS), but a broken clock is right 2 times a day, and he ocassionally hits upon things that make sense, and it would be interesting to watch Jordan just iron out those enormous wrinkles Tate's ideas.
If I could attend this conversation I would ask the following question: Dr. Peterson, your point that most parents would rather sacrifice themselves than their children highlights a deep parental instinct to protect. However, considering this in a theological context where God is portrayed as an unsacrificeable figure, how do you reconcile this with the notion of God's ultimate sacrifice? If God, by nature, cannot be sacrificed, what does this imply about his role as a father? How does he empathize with the human experience of sacrifice and loss, especially from a parent's perspective? Thank you.
@@jon1979roma He loves you, but His love is conditionally based on you also loving Him. It's not a great relationship dynamic. Since He created everything He created the necessity for the sacrifice and He created the situation in which the loss occurred. Nice, huh? (2 cents)
@jon1979roma He would probably bring up Abraham's beginnings and then say something about how His ultimate sacrifice is the ideal image of the goal of parenthood: to painfully counter their instincts and correctly sacrifice or "let go" of their children into a hostile world so that they can save some part of it. Then he might go on a tangent about the pathology of those that can't let go and their perpetual children. I'd be curious to see if and how he goes into God the Father's feeling of loss as compared to his images' feeling
Jordan Peterson, you are a legend sir! Appreciate the work you've put in over the course of your life to distill and transfer knowledge that is often put so eloquent.🙏🏽
Host: do you believe in god? JP: Well.. it's complicated! What do you mean "do", what do you mean "believe" and what do you mean by "god" (yes he's actually asked "what do you mean by do" before... look it up). Host: do you believe in zionism? JP: YES!!!!!!!
Peterson always seems to be agitated and angry in his interviews these days. One of things I use to like about his interviews is that he use to be quite calm and measured. For example the infamous Cathy Newman interview, where she was baiting him the entire interview trying to provoke a negative reaction. And he just sat there cool as cucumber deconstructing her antagonisms.
I believe you are mis-interpreting it. It is passion you are viewing. Also when you focus on the state of the world all the time, it can be hard to keep negative emotions at bay. Especially when you are being misconstrued and attacked by a gigantic world dominating apparatus for the past 7 years
@@DestatiJacobYes. And still - Jordan's passion is much more fueled by anger than before, and I don't like it, and I don't trust it. 🙃❤ And I would sacrifice a lot for Jordan; his spirit helped save me at my lowest. 🙏❤️
@@elektrotehnik94 Jordan has actually said the same thing in others interviews. He says that when he gets passionate, he tends to pull it from a source of anger - which can be a very powerful tool - but that he think he would be better off learning to change the source of his passion. So it’s something he’s aware of and I believe working on
@@davidmiller2947 I believe it is a big problem. 😶 I hope he gets to resolving it ASAP. 👍❤️ He is focusing on the political dimension atm, and I believe he is messing it up more that helping. 👎 It seems that it's because his anger-fuel is warping his view + his attitude towards the World. It seems to be enhancing his biases. 👎👎 It seems not good at all. It seems very damaging. 😶👎 I might be wrong; but I don't believe so. Much Love & Godspeed 🙏❤️
10:32 - Lex Fridman has the best listening face. It's so genuine, present and fully engaged...he really gives a masterclass in each podcast on how to be a expert listener, giving complete space for his guests to fully develop their thoughts out loud and engaging with each thought in such a considerate and precise way. It's such a rare skill to have, and it's incredible to be able to learn from him!
“Follow the voice of adventure”. That’s all the man is saying, truly a compliment to the human spirit 🤍 So lucky to be a fly on the wall. Thank you Lex, Jordan, & RU-vid. What a time we’re living in! Received an education virtually from all of these conversations.
btw - have been trying to contact Jungle Keepers as a recipient (Impact Partner) for corporate donor funds via Linked-In but unfortunately no one is responding.
I like how Peterson always looks like he's hyper focused on the person who's talking to him. I wonder if this makes more people comfortable or uncomfortable.
Foucault does not universalize power as an element of human experience and existence, but instead illuminates distinct historical traditions and trajectories that lead to specific things like moral sentiments which operate within a social structure - in short, he writes genealogies. I wonder which famous philosopher he might have gotten this idea of the historicism of moral values from 😅
@@vaughanpatenaude639 without question - this is as embarrassingly unread of a mistake as someone who has heard of Nietzsche telling you he is a nihilist.
Yes! As a nietzchen philosopher he is sceptical about universalizing. Peterson didn't read even summary of philosophy. Ask chatgpt if you''t believe me. Peterson could start using it too.
@@theotelos9188 Thats what i expected from a man who's constantly talking about western thought and never talks about the Greeks but instead rambles on about abraham and job at every turn.
The call to pull oneself out of the abyss was compelling, particularly as the midway mark curved into Dr. Peterson sounding human, grounded, but oh so powerfully clear in this search for meaning. The salvo was optimistic but not saccharine or trite. A truly fulfilling conversation this one was, and also exploratory...again thank you for this one!
Gold! Pure Gold! 🧡🧡🧡 I am a Yugoslavien engineer who starts discovering the beauty of Christianity. We studied in the school Marxism as a mandatory topic. "Communism do not scale and do not itterate", we thought it did.
Dificult for me to believe that yougoslavians engineers studied indeed marxism. As a romanian, before '89, also in engineering school, militarized as a plus, these lectures where actually peripheric. Indeed the cult of personality of Ceausescu was more present than anything else, and we knew at that time, that yugoslavian communism was probably the most liberal of all that was. I do not intend to ofend, I do not know the particularity of your country history, with Tito and all, but still, marxism was for students in politics, hystory, philosophies, economics.... for the rest was just propaganda. Or maybe myself was to ignorant and absent to all this classes. And I do not say this as a merit. I was also absent from some religious teaching from my grand parents when I was a kid. I just dreamed to build things that fly. To became a sailor in the end😊. Christianity, old of two millenia, I think is about to die, though a war goes in the name of "old good traditions" America "need to be saved" with the "old, good traditions". Strange thing to condemn islam for their fundamentalism, and in the west, with all scientific progress to recourse to .... religion, because of the defects of society, fundamentaly generated by economics. The big mistake of people is to mix faith with religion. Or church. And Peterson is just an oportunistic, not a believer. A real believer do not put saints figures on his jacket. This is for rockers, or athletes in the arena. ... Funny! "We who wrestle with God", the last tour of Peterson, the showman.
