Jordan Peterson - The Shadow Reaches All The Way Down To Hell 

and yet continues to insist in absolute good or vise versa it is truly a strange thing

Key words "likes to believe". AKA denial

@Jay N Other dimensions lower and higher than ours exist and there are beings which reside in those dimensions, how are you so sure that heaven and hell don't exist?

There is no absolute evil but people certainly can act in a way that most people would despise.

There is absolute evil, but it is usually out of reach for ordinary humans or alternatively bad/evil people are pawns to absolute evil. But you would be needed to be demonic to be absolute evil and even if let's say evil tyrants come close in being absolute evil they are not. In other words absolute evil is divine, but in reverse, so maybe complete saint turning 180?

Fresh i feel as though i’m at a similar point in life myself.. funny how we harm ourselves to somewhat heal ourselves in the short term. Hell is what you make it 🤷🏻‍♂️

all the Best

I've been in out of recovery for nearly 40 years wish Dr. Peterson had been around during my youth he speaks about maintaining good orderly direction in life which is a higher power I can accept.

can you tell us your story? because I'm in a similar situation and I want to know what is the mentality and the thing that drives us to recover.

Rigjt on brother. Same here. Keep our sobriety by giving it away. If you are under the impression. That you dont owe god service . You sre wrong all that time you were f d up. There wre those here who suffered more than you. Press on. Sincerely your brother in christ cr.

😂😂me too but hey he gives hope

1000 points! Nothing could more accurately describe my past weeks since I discovered JP

You punish yourself with a blessing

good man

That doesn't sound too good fam

Bite-sized Philosophy I think that acknowledgement of the shadow must be a continuous process throughout one's life. I don't think anyone can reach a point where there's nothing left to discover and bring truth to. But that's also encouraging because it hints that there is no real cap or ceiling to how much one can improve oneself as long as they continue assimilating their shadow and aiming upwards

Jordan is not honest in his own self observation. He is damaged by religion beyond hope.

it was incredibly interesting to listen to.

Critic: but he isn't talking about religion, he is talking about humanity ... and one invented the other

I am talking about Jordan.

Oceanmama you’ve been doing that for 16 years and he doesn’t know?

It takes strength and braveness to admit and accept your mistakes. I'm proud of you.

you're just a thief.

u admitting it does not change the fact that u did it,

Understand yourself and learn to forgive yourself. Not in a way that excuses your mistakes, but in a way that allows you to heal the part of you that would do that sort of thing. Love yourself. Love your better conscience. Love your shadow too. Retool that negative entity towards something good productive and it will be surprisingly effective.

Glad you are listening. You are young live li and e in a way you can be proud of. God bless.

I feel brother enjoying the painful suffering journey everyday. 67 days strong ;-;.

Enjoy You're pain long enough And it will kill You. Stop enjoying playing with You're demons Because they will kill You also.

@@tobiahtoviyahgoodnessof349 WORD

3 triangulation

It was a profound book.

john higgins he probably doesn’t trust himself and keeps himself at arms length in order to protect vulnerable children from himself ... maybe emotional connection is too traumatic of an experience for him because he hasn’t healed from his own trauma. So he remains closed off to protect others from that trauma coming out.

Yes nice enough excuse for the behaviour. But really they cause so much intergenerational harm. Just by neglect is bad enough. Get away from these people as soon as you practically can, and don't look back.

@@jackiedouglas4483 that's what happened and things are much different 3 years later. Much different. Looking at that comment I posted now makes me cringe tbh. I got rid of 'self help' stuff ages ago because I found it actually doesn't help much. Only you can help yourself. Once you've seen half an hour of Peterson you've pretty much seen what he's all about and ever got to say. It goes round and round so you keep hearing the same stuff but worded slightly different. If somebody watches Jordan Peterson or any other self help charlatans for advice on how to become a stronger, better, more approachable man, and after a year you still never go outside, that person really doesn't want to help himself. Seriously, half an hour of Peterson is enough. There's hearing it, but then there's doing it.

He gives them both equal credit where credit is due. Jung put nearly all the myths together to come up with a literal understanding, and the bible is one of those myths.

Nick Sievers Depending on what those things are, turn your attempts more toward simply acknowledging those obsessions, and acknowledging the virtue that is keeping what needs to be suppressed, suppressed. That way, you’ve got total control of yourself, which is very empowering, yet you’re also living as honestly as possible by acknowledging it within. That’s how it is integrated. Because even if nobody else knows, you do, and that understanding is being honest with yourself. Which brings you closer to living truthfully, which is the goal. Be at peace with it. That is what will keep you from ever needing to act on it. But one of the most important things to take note of is the undeniable reality that is this - we ALL have that malevolence inside, or at least the potential for it. All of us in different ways. So view it as a piece to your total puzzle as a human being, because you’re not different or worse than anybody else. It’s like what JBP says about the nazis - don’t ever act like you’d never be one of them if you were living in nazi Germany. Because odds are, yes you would.

Nick Sievers Ask Jesus to help you. He's real, and He still heals those who ask.

Here, have a hug :)

As painful as it is to behold all these dimensions of your psyche, it's such a gift to be aware, but it's very helpful to connect tangibly with wise and compassionate elders who can support and mentor you, beyond the shame and blame narrative which is common in society. I'm speaking from personal experience as i was in a chronic state of despair for more than 10 years and had no idea how i'd find the way to come back into loving myself and life. As a wise meditation teacher told me 'There's nothing within the realm of the mind which cannot be completely transformed within the course of a lifetime.' In desperate times when nobody was with me i'd keep my hand on my heart and breathe with those words... Cultivating some kind of self compassion is essential. One breath at a time Nick... Keep the faith and trust in the power of your Self.

Nick Sievers You are making massive headway just by publicly acknowledging it. Own those deep dark parts of yourself and then you can fully heal by integrating it into your being. Most human beings are neither all darkness or all light - we are both. Sending you love and strength.

Just out of curiosity, why would differing viewpoints come before one of the most valuable relationships a person can have? I don’t mean that in a condescending way.

no, its not in human nature I believe

Human consciousness encompasses the full spectrum from the lowest hell realm to the highest heavenly realm.. Lessons to be learned in every level until we learn to make clear choices and tune in, akin to tuning in to whatever radio station we choose to tune into.. Hindu cosmology maps out the 14 levels very eloquently...

if we have a shadow we have a light the part of us that wants to see the world a better place to do better to strive to be better they both start small they are living breathing starve them and they shrink feed them and they grow

well maybe, but you have to strive to conduct yourself and be good, while being evil comes without effort

@@mysticchords You can only make such statements about the conscious when you first acknowledge the key role the unconscious plays, especially seeing as such concepts as the Shadow lie within the unconscious archetypes and can dominate the consciousness. Thus it would be better say that the psyche as a whole that encompasses such a "spectrum"

Cain was "virtue signaling ". His offering was not the right one. Just a show that didn't cut deep enough.

compassion and acceptance. but that's harder than it sounds

He has no such talent.

Totally. But I think he would not want to.

well, he IS leading the place he is now is a position of GREAT influence and leadership jordan peterson has earned a level of credibility and legitimate authority equaled by very few men in the world he doesn't need a political office, hes more important than that

Levi interesting

George R Price equation We are selfish by nature it is why we have survived this far

Fair question. But is it the chicken or the egg? Does it feel good BECAUSE it's selfless or do we do selfless acts because they feel good? In other words, why does it feel good to do a nice thing for someone else that doesnt otherwise benefit us? Whats the evo-psych of that feeling?

Why was it traumatic?

@@aldreiong7679 wow a lot has changed since this comment. When you ask yourself deep questions that you've been avoiding your whole life, you're forced to confront reality when you finally begin to answer those hard questions. This breaks any delusions you might have about your perception of self. Integrating your shadow involves objectively analysing your past experiences and coming to terms with the reality of your life and for many, including myself, this is pretty hard. No one (except for me and a few rare others) voluntarily chooses to confront their 'shadow'. Most prefer to live in delusion where ignorance is bliss. But then again, most people are mediocre. All this leads to a form of ego death where you are stripped of your self identity and the best analogy I can describe is like that of a snake shedding its skin. After you shed your skin (ego), you don't know who you are and if that is your first experience, this can be difficult to cope with. I became psychotic and depressed for like 6 months during this period but I managed to recover. This was in on itself traumatic. After the recovery everything changed. My behaviour and mentality improved and I stopped failing at life. Infact, my life is better than ever today. I believe the difference between choosing a path of mediocrity and greatness is your willingness to accept suffering as a fact of life rather than trying to hide or escape from suffering. In order to be great, I must 'suffer' and commit to passing the difficult challenges I have selected by choosing the path of greatness. Purposefully integrating the shadow is step one.

How did u do it ? I’m going thru it now and I’m having a tough time

@@vincentlongo2386 Have a plan. If you're going through tough times then accept your suffering and embrace hitting rock bottom. When you're at rock bottom you feel the most amount of negativity that all your dark thoughts and emotions come to the surface and feel normal. It is at this point you confront your shadow. It will either destroy you and you become a miserable cunt forever or you can face it and integrate your shadow with the intention of becoming a better person with noble aspirations and purpose in life. This is not easy because even though I succeeded, I nearly got kicked out of university. I smoked a lot of weed too which exacerbated the depression. Dont let this experience fuck up your life, even though it feels like hell, understand this is a natural process that grows your character and makes you become the person you want to be.

How????? I thought no one could integrate the entire shadow, it’s simply too vast

IPRRD M 😂 me too !

im gonna go out on a limb here and assume what he would say to this ...."Do it dont just be as smart as me be smarter if its what you want work towards it"

Read the books he's read. It's not hard. All he does is repeat what other men have written. Seriously.

its not about being smart its about reading and learning.... thats what every "smart" person ever has done

In truly knowing, you know that you truly know nothing....

I meant to post this on a previous Hallucinagenic video.. Lol

Bad trip is the name

AL Byrne wym you people?

Hmm did you ever find a place to rent?😟

I will rent u a room

@@valerieparker2242 I'm living in a hotel and Tomorrow I will cut my wrists in the bath. I'm done!

please don't waste your life. it will get better push forward. trust me i have been homeless. sleeping on my front lawn under a boat. it made me realize my happiness. dont get me wrong i didnt like it while it was going on but wow did it change my perspective of live love joy resentment anger and fun. when i was homeless i realized life is what i make of it. all the best to you in life one foot infront of the other

​@lickmy gooch Did you watch the video? I can see how you've misinterpreted what I said, but by watching the video you should know what kind of 'shadow' I'm talking about. What I meant is the shadow within us like what Jung talked about. We see each other with our eyes which is our consciousness. So maybe all our subconscious minds see each other too but in a different dimension we can't see or notice happening. No proof and not claiming to be correct, just a thought. A stoned thought lol.

Adrian Lauren simply saying you cannot be fully naive when utilizing deception

He is not saying to be honest with everyone just yourself it’s a matter of adaptability and survivability in this day and age our predators are playing mind games so you must level the playing field or you get eaten, it’s no different than learning how to use tools before only now the tool to learn is the mind

It’s not all about telling the truth, in words exactly. It’s more about living honestly. Integrating the parts of your personality and self that you’ve suppressed your whole life due to feeling like it wasn’t an ideal way to portray yourself. Stop wearing a mask, in other words.

One can and should be honest at all times, however, one does not have to reveal to anyone anything that should not be revealed.

NOELLE It’s nice to see that some people actually get it! Thank you!

The shadow might be interpreted as a bi-product of the fall. What do you think?

I think that is what he is meaning to articulate.

That's what it seems to be.

Sin with other words?

I would say, it won't be sin itself, rather it would be the side of you that want to sin in the first place.

Great question... if "thoughts are invisible things" that do work, regardless of whether or not they're expressed into physical action... and everything is connected energetically at some level(s).. then we're responsible for far more than we often want to realise/acknowledge at both a personal & collective level!

@@davidparker3834 in that case, is the cause effect mechaism like a physical law purely based on the thought and action one engages in? is it like, u do this or u think this and this will be the repercussion? I'm not buying that coz very rarely do two different people get the same out come for the same action...good or bad...so what's next? could it be that the reward or punishment for your thoughts or actions depend on how you relate to it? coz that could be totally different based on your religion, culture, upbringing etc. idol worship, eating meat, even muder can be perceived as good or bad based on ur cultur and all of this can be changed by convincing the person that it's all in your head....that's what psychologists do....to me, JP appears to be a pastor in disguise...either his religious conditioning is very deeply rooted in him or he is doing it intentionally in an attempt to revive religious morality...perhaps he clearly see's the dangers of a godless world...the world could end up in chaos if no on believes in god anymore...that I believe is a genuine concern....if there is not going to be any sort of a backlash for engaging in a so called evil deed, why should u not hurt anyone for personal gains? Why sould I not murder my neighbor and steal his car? u can argue that the law will take care of that... well, old religious beliefs form the basis for modern laws...they are still relevant in the form of modern laws and if we completely take away the value of those religious teachings, sooner or later all laws will fade away...it just takes one maverick like a hitler or a Mussolini for that to happen...imagine a totally godless evil person coming to power in a nation? he can throw all laws out of the window and then what happens? the country goes into chaos...and in today's world if that start's off its gonna be hard to control it....it could lead to the total obliteration of the human race....

I think when you don’t question the thought (good or bad) you begin forming a habit of feeling those thoughts and playing them out either mentally or in reality. Being possessed by the shadow’s feeling is what Jung would describe as being possessed by the Goddess Eros. You begin to let Eros subconsciously drive your life. It’s up to the individual to interpret the shadow’s information. Doesn’t mean you’d carry out the actions, but it does mean you’d fall into the category of the collective unconscious-to which you were “just doing your job” by executing innocents if you were forced to. Or you carried out that school shooting by executing that which you hate in yourself. So my conclusion is that we’re all in moral degeneration (born in sin). In certain areas, we can tell ourselves what we are and aren’t capable of, being born in sort of a neutral ground-and through nurture we decide what is “justifiable” while letting the other areas slip into oblivion, not realizing we’re all capable of the most horrid evils and wondrous goods. It’s up to us to face ourselves and begin being arbiters of the highest standard to stop this regression, and some are lucky and stumble into this accidentally; others are simply privileged enough to not ever have to ask these questions. All you have to do is analyze your emotions, thoughts, and shadow interpretations because it’s your conscience telling you what you need to fix in yourself that would affect the world positively.

You’re just lucky. Meaning it’s something that could happen but you shouldn’t count on it. It’s also a matter of time, so you don’t want to pile up those situations. You never know when life will present you the bill. You could do something today, and put in action a chain of events that will suck you down in hell at some point 20 years ahead in your life. Giving the right amount of time, you will end always paying your price. For all we know, only the dead can’t be asked the price of their actions.

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