Jordan Peterson: Why You Need Art in Your Life 

Great share, thanks.

PhilosophyInsights I am dying without my art.

Shame the audio is terrible. No lapel mics were used.

Kanye had a tab to this video open in one of his tweets

Thanks for verbalizing the vision and journey of the artist so eloquently.

Wow.

Oof. Thank you for this beautiful reminder. Sometimes (more than often) I question my worth as a person because art chose me. I can't do anything else, don't really know how to do much outside of my creative fields. But this, this is game changer. Thank you.

As a born artist who has been avoiding that fact for adulthood stability, this hit me really hard. Thank you for sharing

Bravo!!

bruh i just cried... thank you for sharing this

"We have art in order not to die of the truth." -Friedrich Nietzsche Not to downplay Dr. Peterson, but I've no doubt he's paraphrasing one of his favorite thinkers. But it's his delivery and passion that make him great.

Such a good line...!!!

Joe Gelman I’m sure Nietzsche didn’t reach his conclusions on his own either. JP is so masterful at distilling and communicating knowledge with his own spin it’s forgivable.

same...

I've posted something about Cezanne I never learned in art school on my FB page. It's important or so I think.

As an engineer there's a part of me that thinks art doesn't advance society while there's another side that feels like it has to be important to our survival and prosperity or else it wouldn't exist. This video definitely helps with understanding logically something that is really mostly emotional (art).

good engineering can be art

wolfpack4128 Ha, I think the other way around. I don’t think it is important (as in essential) to our day to day survival. But I think it does advance society for sure and has been since the cave painting era. Take for instance the first jewellery. It was not essential to survival whether you owned piece of gold or a golden ring. But turning the piece of gold into something new and aesthetically pleasing suddenly increased the value of the item itself, of its owner and of the entire society which produced those things. And I don’t mean just the economics of this of course. That’s why we learn that the most advanced societies in our history always had the most interesting, groundbreaking and evolved art. There is definitely a strong correlation. It goes probably both ways, but it is not like “we have built all the roads and hydratating systems already, so lets do some art now.” The art has been there all the time. The same principle works until now. Also look at the role of art in oppressive regimes or dictatorships. Where would nazi Germany be without the strong propaganda machine, which was essentially art? Or the soviet union without the statues and monuments. Those directly influenced the evolution of their societies and even societies thousands of kilometers away...

yah i feel the same way exactly. i think too much of it is a problem but it is also needed to keep things going. kinda like environmentalism. no one wants to see all the cool animals and environments gone but we also cant just doddle around with it and live in a fantasy.

Java Monkey It's really refreshing to hear. A lot of people I've known over the years have said art is useless, it serves no purpose, if only people would give up on art the world would be a better place, blah blah blah

It's not essential to life in the same way as, say, food, water, or oxygen, but I believe it _is_ essential to life, fundamentally. Art helps us remember what is important about the past, realize what's necessary for the future, revitalizes culture, and teaches us things about ourselves and about humanity which we could not otherwise be able to comprehend. It's also the driving mechanism by which tyranny may rise or fall, and which civilization requires as the cornerstone for its very cohesion. Art is, fundamentally, the weapon with which we combat entropy and the collapse of human civilization, the mechanism by which we criticize our shortcomings in hopes of demonstrating where there is marked need for improvement, course correction, and preventative measures against impending dangers not yet realized, and it's the most resilient method we have to preserve beauty and the ideals we mustn't let go. There's a reason that totalitarian states have very specific, deliberate, and tightly regulated aesthetics and iconography. The Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Mao's China, and North Korea are striking examples of how state-regulated art and iconography can be extremely powerful tools of indoctrination and suppression of independent thought. And, quite often, it's by means of subversive art that stimulates and fosters such thought that those very tyrannical governments and ideologies are toppled. I'm not sure that a free and civilized society would even be possible without art. Despite being a non-fictional account, I'm not sure a work such as _The Gulag Archipelago_ could be accurately described as anything other than a work of art, and it was one of the most powerful contributing factors to the fall of the USSR. It may not be necessary to the survival of the individual, but I would contend that it is absolutely necessary for the survival of society as a whole.

Thank you, I greatly appreciate it. I agree that Jordan Peterson's comment sections are generally quite excellent places. Lots of constructive conversations and interesting perspectives and incisive observations that one might never have otherwise considered. Mostly, a lot of people who place a great deal of value in free and open dialogue - something which is, unfortunately, very rare to find, especially online. Art is a topic of particular significance to me, both personally and professionally, so it's a delight to hear Professor Peterson's insight on the matter, and to discuss it with others. While the professor is quite right in pointing out that artistic ventures are frustratingly difficult to monetize, I've been fortunate enough to operate a small business as a freelance artist over the past nine years, and generate a modest income by means of it. By no metric can my work be considered profound or culturally significant, but it is nevertheless a great passion of mine, and has been as far back as I can remember.

Wow, that is a staggeringly ignorant assertion. My first inclination is to write you off as either a troll, or merely a simpleton in the extreme. But, in the spirit of open conversation and debate, I'll bite: what reasoning leads you to include that one of the most ancient and enduring of humanity's creations has no meaning, function, utility, or necessity? I'm not asking rhetorically; I would be very interested to see if you've a cogent argument to elucidate.

Java Monkey it's a troll. If you equate great works of art with coloring books and (bad) fiction writing, you lack the capability to judge quality and aesthetics. Basically, you're a robot at that point

Jared Dowty :)

Almost. It makes sense of tragedy and it's the way in which it does so that is beautiful.

Love transforms beauty into tragedy

Well said

I smell some nietzche around here :P

Algore Daemon , Or that you would rend the heavens, when you would come down! That the mountains might shake @ Your Presence- to make Your name known to your adversaries.

And good for nothing when it comes to feeding the kids...

Ken Durham maybe there’s more to life than just reproducing and surviving. Well, there is for me.

Read paradise lost after watching this

Alice InChristchurch I’m glad my comment could be the catalyst. It is a remarkable piece of art and history, a truly transcendent epic. Enjoy

Then you'd love this. Why did he have to bring god into this?

@paganist Thinking costs energy and there is no such thing as free lunch ;Þ

Me too.

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He did a serious study of jung at one point in his education

Muhammad ZZ, Yes, my great uncle who was an artist and whose son and daughter became an architect and artist respectively always told me as a child to hone my drawing skills because art is the language that we “speak” to the world in order relay our creative ideas

​What a wise word from your uncle

Five years after you wrote your comment, I just wanted to say that I hope you're still encouraged.

If you work hard and smart… you’ll capitalize on your degree. If you work hard and smart without a degree you just capitalize. Go win it y’all.

I’m planning on going back to school to finish my fine arts degree and also resonate with this speech. There is great value in what we are doing.

You’re having an experience, and you’re trying to get better and better at expressing it. No need for insecurity in that process whatsoever. Imagine your creative heroes urging you onward rather than allowing their great works to discourage and deflate you.

Dragon with some frog DNA.

Nah when your hormones start to regulate he becomes just another fad.

you're not listening

more like modern art is shit, because the world is going to shit.

the modernist movement began in the early 20th century with the impressionists, surrealists, cubists etc. i very much doubt you are both talking about Matisse, Picasso, Mondrian, Manet, Monet or dali. After this came the Post modern art movement, borne out of the DaDa movement which was areaction to the avant garde modernists i mention above. followed by shock art, pop art and then post-post modern art. i think you both may be referring to contemporary art. which is art made currently.

which later gave us "artist's shit" in 1961, yet another tongue in cheek poke at the art establishment

The urinal was entered into a competition because Duchamp didn't believe his friends' claim to be as liberal as they claimed to be. It was a practical joke.

indeed it was a joke, as was most if not all of the DaDaists work. that was kind of their manifesto. the same goes for "Artists Shit"

And what the creative art you have can u share

Thank u for asking...right now I am just in the experimental stage but even that is entertaining!

Indeed it was Have a great day! God Bless! Stay strong, stay safe and take care of yourselves! Wishing everyone the best! Jesus loves you! May the Holy Spirit guide you! 😇 💗🕊

Are you saying that the people you listed have captivated you or not? Also, could you recommend some more people who have been able to do this? I've recently moved and nobody in my immediate surrounding really fits the bill.

Poor *Christopher* is rolling in his grave. 🤣😢

Alex Kane Those are the people you think of when you try to list smart personalities?

My way of feeling and being myself is far better captured by Sam Harrises statement about the mind and I always have this bad taste in my mouth when Jordan starts telling that I kind of believe in god just for interacting in some way with the transcendence

Awaken artist.

Amy, I’m here now and I hope you are too. ❤

jcgm90 did you clean your room, bucko?

Nice. Right there with you

Here with ya! Have a great day! God Bless! Stay strong, stay safe and take care of yourselves! Wishing everyone the best! Jesus loves you! May the Holy Spirit guide you! 😇 💗🕊

@@seremetvlad no daddy. I didn’t clean my room. Come spank me.

Austin Fieldsted That's just the perspective, he's looking right at the front rows.

Fuck off!

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I am about to start learning photography as an art ,I am so scared. I want to make it as an escape not necessarily for any monetary gain tho photography equipment drains my savings

I've started to draw and paint watercolor at 68 and it's filling my life with inexplicable joy and completeness.

@@tejinderkaur3475 I'm glad to hear that

@@sharonomach well, start out small, find a camera you can afford at the moment. Use it, practice, enjoy the process and continue building it up, and maybe, Lord willing, you can expand your passion more so, maybe even bring joy to others with the paths you take. And are given. Don't be afraid to step out and move forward, gotta take that first step

and you can think that way about everything pertaining to beauty. just dont let it burden your healthy functioning

Justifying ≠ rationalizing

jajaja

The pokemon universe is actually pretty amazing in terms of imagination and creativity, not even kidding

Anime is trash

I literally came here because of his tweet

Sauce???

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Would that really be worth it? ;)

What's obliteratE

@Chris Hayes hahahaha ditto!

@Voice of Reason because it fit at that moment in that context and had even more impact because he rarely curses at all, and certainly not gratuitously.

Charlie Rose will always be king of the pregnant pause.

What is that?

The effects are astounding. Your thinking will become much clearer. Then buy a work of art that organizes space the same way you've chosen to order your space. Then you may find after a while you change that. Then on and up.

he is just on lsd or mdma there... This voice... Emotions... How he shakes and moves as he is reexploring his own insight in front of the audience... Beautifull... I am 99% sure he is microdosing lsd or psylocybin during this lecture.

Yeah... or he has persevered in his work with blood, sweat & tears and its reflected in his stream of thoughts. What a stupid way to justify his work ethic, seriously what an ignorant comment.

Fuck drugs and fuck retarded people who think you cant be emotional and transcedent without them. What a moron

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All the punkrockers I've known were also hardcore art lovers. Goths are the same.

Too bad postmodernists die in the end

The lyrics in that clash song "death or glory" about how the nun-fuckers always endup joining the church...;)

@@johnnyscifi There's actually a Canadian hardcore punk band called The Nunfuckers. They're actually pretty good.

casey west he will save the west

No, nothing can do that, except the people themselves.

except he is canadian

Are you seriously trying to compare Trump to Peterson ?

Jordan Peterson will save THE WEST (with the help of exposure via Kanye West!)

Clay C 😂😂😂

KnownKiloTx Had you not heard of Jordan Peterson before? He's great :D

These comments make me so happy