This scene literally shows you him folding when he has good hands so he will throw off everyone, he's good at cards because he knows when to bet and no one can read him
Johnny knew he was gonna die. He lost so much already. He wasn't about to let Roark take away his dignity too! He'd rather go out on top & humiliating his father. The better man truly did win.
I guess it's how they'll remember you in your last moments is what'll be talked about, you wanna squeal and throw people under the bus and scream and be on your knees or take it as it is, accepting it. Like how the Joker in Dark Knight said using a knife on people for their final moments made him know people better than their loved ones knew them.
This made Rouke's guy turn on him later. They didn't trust him and found it despicable that he would murder his own son over losing to him at cards. This film is underrated.
@@RetroAdzz even the worst lowlife criminals still love their sons and I'm sure these guys were disgusted and even saddened by him killing his own son.
Hi there Tak, I've never seen this film but Rouke didn't reaalise his own actions were the ulitmate full housing himself. In that sense, Johnny WAS RIGHT. The memory of how he killed his OWN SON meant everything he did after that was poisoned, in the minds of his underlings, by how even his own offspring wasn't safe from him. As soon as he killed his own Son? He lost the game of life.
WhateverItTakes True, but knowing that you've taken away bit of a man's power, made those who were terrified of him doubt him just that little bit, and knowing they'll talk about it forever. That makes it worth it.
Brock Samson nahhh, it just showcases his limitations to do any damage. .... a board in protest of being walked on will break, or give you a sliver. But, it's still just a board.
Alot of people are on here talking about how this is “gambler’s pride,” but it really isn’t. It actually has nothing to do with the game and more so getting people to open their eyes about this evil man. Right before he got he said, “They say they wont tell, but they will!” That was him implying that people will eventually stand up to him and realize he is plain evil and has to go. He basically sacrificed himself to prove a very powerful point!
@@seewhativescenethat was JFK. Roarke is loosely based on his V.P., who had not only himself taken out w/ his mob and oil-men buddies, but even went as far as killing a son out of wedlock for “starting to talk around his 20s!”
One thing confuses me about Roarks character. He was one of those guys that was obsessed about keeping his lineage/legacy alive. But he was unable to have any more children himself. He went out of his way to repair his sons junk after Hartigan shoot his junk off. Spending millions and turning his son into a mutant only for the chance of having grandkids. Now after his son is dead he founds out he has another healthy son. But he has nothing but disdain for him and ends up killing him himself. Basically ending his own line. It felt like it kinda didn't fit his character.
I agree, I find that weird too. Sure as pointed above, Johnny was illegitimate. But for someone going on about legacy and bloodline. You'd think he'd at-least consider accepting Johnny just for the sake of continuing his line
I think it was that Roark knew that Johnny wasn't like him at all and also could by the end of this story easily destroy him (and Johnny did destroy his untouchable reputation by besting him at Poker), so he probably thought that it wasn't worth it.
Well in Roark's eyes, he just sees a bastard son he doesn't give 2 shits about also he favored his other child more than this one. Spending so much money on him to get children.
One of the best storylines. Came from a father who valued his power more then anything . A mother who loved him but passed away suddenly. Has his fathers card tricks but is way more better then him. Even when fighting yes he passed away he still won at the final battle between him and his dad. He said the most of the last words and made a mark .
@@randybugger3006 Truly painful especially in this day and age. If you bothered to learn basic English I'd imagine it matters to you somewhat. Otherwise why bother? The entire internet at your disposal and you can't type in is "More better then him" correct?
yes, and who wants to play poker with a rotten guy who doesn’t take to lose, and that explain that guy stinks at poker, all of those man had to let him win.
Well yes and no. This is a very unique game of poker as in everyone there is just paying homage to Roark, hence the folding every hand even if they had great hands. The point of this poker game is not to play poker but to honor Roark. The kid got too cocky and quite frankly got what he deserved. Don't talk reckless to someone that will end your life over a comment. It was really the kids fault the entire time. The punishment was very severe and you can't change it but the kid did fuck up and had to be put in line. Roark just got humiliated infront of the people who respect him the most. Roark almost was forced to kill him or he would never be taken seriously again. You can't let some kid half your age shit on you like that and get away with it. Teach the little shit a quick lesson on respect. Too bad, he was a decent kid. Pride got that kid killed, nothing more. He easily could've walked away, even with the losses but still been alive, but the importance of standing up to Roark was worth death to him. Beautiful scene on humanity, and what hope and pride will make you do.
@@marttyd yes it’s called Sin City 2 this movie but you should definitely watch the first one Sin City by Robert Rodriguez, then watch the second one called Sin City: A Dame To Kill For - which is this video
@@PriestApostate he was a dead man the fiest time he played against him. The old man dosen't Lose, them playing against him is a way of bribe, a Show loyality. By winning against him first he was a dead man and they pulled him back to play again and die. He was supposed to Lose but he didn't, taking his Dignity. You can see how disgustrd the other players are by him. He may have killed his own son because he felt petty and you don't fuck with him...but if he is willing to do it to his son, what will he do to me? His own footman turned on him because he is to unstable, he fucked up big time.
I am reading a lot of critics about Jhonny's attitude and choice. Relax, this is all a symbolism, to show a man can be beat, no matter what, and regardless all his power, there always be a man willing to face him, take that, because that what's supose to mean
the poker thing wasnt about poker. those guys were there to pay tribute to Roark and hold their pride at the same time. thats why the always fold. the kid either didnt realize the real purpose of the game or he knew and just wanted to prove something
Sammy Garibaldo well i didnt feel the poker game was about poker. If you remember his speech to Hartigan in the first movie, he talks about power. In this movie he equates poker with power. The cards represents the dirt of each of the men at the table. It looks like you have a politician, a LT Officer, and sum drug dealers. In order to keep their place on the top of society it looks like they are all working or at the least paying to keep their status. The Poker is a front but at the same time its a fair game that anyone can jump in on at their own peril. Thats why the officer told him not to win to much cuz this aint a real game. See the kid thought he could just hustle them boys the first time. The second time it was all about pride
Chris Allen see what I don't get why bother opening the game to the public. they could've kept the game private and this whole affair could've been avoided.
IsrarTaj83 any chance to grab money and its not open for public. Its open to people that know about it. Besides the bartender gave him fair warning and he ignored her
Nancy going emo and killing Roark was an original too. But that one was horrible. Ruined the character of Nancy, was pretty cringey, made absolutely no sense timeline wise as Marv was still alive. And they got Bruce Willis back for literally 60 seconds of screen time and had to pay him a few million.
Good? He wins, he gets punished, he’s best idea is to come back to win again and gets punished to death. What was the title again? “Plans are overrated?” “Being a moron doesn’t pay off?” “ “That’s why smart people are usually good at chess?”
You've got to know when to hold 'em Know when to fold 'em Know when to walk away And know when to run You never count your money When you're sittin' at the table There'll be time enough for countin' When the dealin's done
A dame to kill for was the most decent one, since it was the only story that came from the comics. You could feel the same vibes and atmosphere than in the first movie.
Sorry, I always thought this was stupid. Johnny supposedly "wins" by proving he was a better player. Oh please! _Everybody already knew_ Roarke ddidn't win all the time because he's the best player; he always won because he had power, wasn't afraid of using it, and everyone else was afraid of him. So nobody dared to beat him. They knew it. He knew it. _Everyone_ knew it. His winning was never about being the best, it was about rubbing everyone else's nose in the fact that they were weaker and he _didn't need_ skill to beat them. So Johnny didn't prove a damn thing, and he threw his life away not proving it. In fact, I would argue that all he did was reinforce Roarke's power, because they all knew what would happen if anybody dared to beat Roarke, and all Johnny did was remove any last lingering shred of doubt that that was a bluff.
I think the point was that unlike anyone playing against roak. Johnny had the balls to to play and beat him and wasn't intimidated by the power he had or afraid of the result if he did beat him. So ultimately it was the one who had the last laugh type of ordeal. Going out by at least having your enemy be caught with their pants down type of situations. But that's just my perspective of it all.
Rourke made no sense. This son was smart, lucky, and decent looking. His other son was a complete loser. Killed his own actually decent son, while spending millions to save the creeper that went nowhere.
Not criticizing the performances here, but this is an example of how I felt this movie was a little too bleak... pointlessly bleak. We're raging over a poker game and all this "Johnny won in the end" jibbah jabbah is really just a blip on the radar in the crazy Sin City world. Also this particular story was created specifically for the second film and for the sole purpose to overly antagonize Roark so we can get some "satisfaction" in his demise towards the end in another story made for the film, I guess.
saying "if i could give any young man advice it'd be this: wear a rubber" before shooting your illegitimate son in the head is one of the coldest, most evil things someone could ever do. Senator Roarke is a great villain
@@The_Patbey Hey man I have a girlfriend, 64gb of Ram on my computer, Ryzen 9, a badass fullframe camera, fashion & bling from neck to toe, so he'd be well in his right to be jealous of me
@@The_Patbey so you're not disagreeing with my point you're just saying I shouldn't have been allowed to make my true point in the first place? Interesting.. similar to a criminal saying "Yes this proves I'm guilty, but it was taken in illegal search so therefore I'm innocent"
Plus, Johnny says he's "better" than Rourke when all he does in order to win is draw the nuts each time. That's not really being a good player, it's just being a lucky asshole.
Scene was almost ruined by Levitt explaining the importance of him winning the card game. To on the nose. At best, its lazy. That said, this was the best scene in the movie
I always loved this scene. But realistically what's the point of playing against someone that will inevitably win every time? No one would bother to play against him.
All these silly two shoes comments about how supposedly he was the "better man" and the "real winner" in this. But imagine dying over a game of cards (esp. since he must've known that the other guy practically had the power to kill him). Also, at this rate he might've straight up tried to kill the guy if he was feeling suicidal instead of trying to "beat" him in some bullshit card game.
2:39 soundtrack from M Night Shyamalan's The Village begins here. Not noticed it before. That shimmering violin. Comes from the scene when Joachim Phoenix grabs Bryce Dallas Howard from the porch and leads her inside to safety.
Usually with the bad people everyone leaves and abandons them, they die completely isolated and no one gives a fuck when they die. Roark probably never felt love from anyone in his entire life and would die with no one to grieve him.
I really wanted to like the movie. I love dark comics and the brilliant imaginations out there. However there was something not quite right with Dime for a Dame. It felt like a really nice flavoured bubble-gum but the taste on the tongue was short-lived. Sin City? Well, that is is whole different packet of gum!
When he cut the deck before riffling, it was a 7 of diamonds, then when the shot turned ti him holding the cards pre riffle it was the 9 of hearts, then when he finished it was the 7 of diamonds. Wouldve been cool to know that he actually did the one handed shuffle all in one go.
