Joseph Smith's Lost Cave Found in Miner's Hill! 

Same with Russel Brunson (Clickfunnels Founder out of Boise)

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Call his channel.

Nope

I think the church should acquire it but Glenn Beck would be great if they're not interested.

That's so cool! :)

Pish-tosh! You and your "facts"!

Dan, your series on the dig sites and caves is terrific. Your videos have been around for years, and yet these guys are gobbling up Don's misguided claims as if it is cutting edge news.

"Hi-yo tapirs, away!"---The Lone Nephite

With or without the asschaps?

On top of the Stanford’s and Ingersoll’s. I’d be curious if these accounts weren’t lifted directly from Mormonism Unvailed. These sound eerily similar to their affidavits that were published in that book.

Always check the source. 👍

Did they find the green glowing stone? lol

@@jgoldensshadow Willard Chase's and Peter Ingersoll's affidavits re: Joseph Smith and treasure-digging have been quoted as credible sources by LDS historians and Ensign magazine articles.

Willard Chase was just one of numerous acquaintances of Joseph Smith who testified of his 1820s treasure-digging activities.

I fully endorse this!

The blowhard lawyer, Blake Ostler told me he had "unfettered access" to the First Presidency vault for several years in the 80's, and that it held nothing controversial.

Check out the Church Newsroom's topic article for Granite Mountain Records Vault. It contains family history artifacts, which are currently in the process of being digitized.

​@@lukev483 Why do you think that?

Numerous books and articles have already been written on the subject. Jerald and Sandra Tanner published "Joseph Smith And Money Digging" in 1970. And of course, numerous acquaintances of Joseph who had been involved in his treasure-seeking activities swore legal affidavits to their experiences with him. Those were published in a book titled "Mormonism Unvailed" in 1834. Re: your comment about people trying to get the plates: Those people were Joseph's former fellow treasure-digging pals. They and the Smiths had signed an "articles of agreement" in 1825 in which they pledged to split any valuables they might find: "Another element in the religious and social milieu of the time was a continuing interest in various so-called 'magical arts', such as the use of divining rods or stone gazing (sometimes called 'glass-looking') in the quest for lost articles or buried treasure.....In Joseph Smith's time these practices were still accepted as authentic among the common folk in upstate New York.....Josiah Stowell.....located what he believed to be the site of an ancient Spanish mine...Late in 1825 he employed Joseph Sr., and Joseph, Jr., along with some other men, to help him find the treasure. According to Lucy Smith, Stowell hired her son 'on account of having heard that he possessed certain keys, by which he could discern things invisible to the natural eye.' Official articles of agreement were drawn up, and the Smiths were to share in the profits." ("The Story of the Latter-Day Saints," James Allen and Glen Leonard, pp. 15, 41.) "[Josiah] Stowell believed that he had located the site of an ancient Spanish mine.....Through the summer of 1825 he put his hired hands to work on the site.....When his men failed to locate the cache, Stowell enlisted the Smiths' help, and Joseph Smith Sr., and Joseph, Jr., agreed to join the diggers in Harmony. A set of 'Articles of Agreement', dated November 1, 1825,.....indicated that Joseph and his father were to receive two-elevenths of the ore in the mine or 'the coined money and bars of ingots of Gold or Silver' reputed to lie hidden underground.....[after Smith claimed to receive the 'gold plates'], treasure seekers like Chase laid claim to Joseph Smith as a former partner. 'The money-diggers,' Martin Harris explained, 'claimed that they had as much right to the plates as Joseph had, as they were in company together.' Over a year later David Whitmer met a group of incensed young men in Palmyra who claimed that before Joseph got the plates, 'he had promised to share with them.' One of them, Samuel Lawrence, and one [Alvah] Beeman, who worked with divining rods, came to the Smith house to try to persuade Joseph to give them a share. Joseph Knight, who was still at the Smiths', said 'they proposed to go shares with him and tried every way to bargain with him but could not. Whereupon Beeman held up his rods until they pointed to the hearth where the plates were hidden. "To throw off Chase and Lawrence, Joseph moved the plates from the hearth to the cooper's shop in the yard.....the device worked. Willard Chase brought his gang again that very night and his sister Sally with her green glass ["seer stone"]. They rummaged around outside but did not come in." ("Joseph Smith and the Beginnings of Mormonism," Richard Bushman, pp. 69, 83, 84.) The fact that those men failed to get the plates strongly suggests that no such plates existed. If that amount of gold actually existed, those guys would have threatened or harmed Smith until he gave them up. The fact that the men gave up so easily indicates that they realized that Joseph's story was bogus.

Digging for religious treasure IS treasure digging. I know it might have started as a search for monetary riches but the way they were molded to seek after spiritual treasures is an epic story of change and sacrifice.

Con men and marks would seem more accurate.

@@dcarts5616 More like an epic story of bullshit. Joseph Smith's evolution from a folk-magician into a Biblical-style "prophet" was detailed in an August 31, 1831 newspaper article: "It was during this state of public feeling in which the money diggers of Ontario county, by the suggestions of the Ex-Preacher from Ohio, thought of turning their digging concern into a religious plot, and thereby have a better chance of working upon the credulity and ignorance of the [their] associates and the neighborhood. Money and a good living might be got in this way. It was given out that visions had appeared to Joe Smith -- that a set of golden plates on which was engraved the "Book of Mormon," enclosed in an iron chest, was deposited somewhere in the hill I have mentioned. People laughed at the first intimation of the story, but the Smiths and Rangdon persisted in its truth. They began also to talk very seriously, to quote scripture, to read the bible, to be contemplative, and to assume that grave studied character, which so easily imposes on ignorant and superstitious people. Hints were given out that young Joe Smith was the chosen one of God to reveal this new mystery to the world; and Joe from being an idle young fellow, lounging about the villages, jumped up into a very grave parsonlike man, who felt he had on his shoulders the salvation of the world, besides a respectable looking sort of a blackcoat. Old Joe, the ex-preacher, and several others, were the believers of the new faith, which they admitted was an improvement in christianity, foretold word for word in the bible. They treated their own invention with the utmost religious respect. By the special interposition of God, the golden plates, on which was engraved the Book of Mormon, and other works, had been buried for ages in the hill by a wandering tribe of the children of Israel, who had found their way to western New York, before the birth of christianity itself. Joe Smith is discovered to be the second Messiah who was to reveal this word to the world and to reform it anew. In relation to the finding of the plates and the taking the engraving, a number of ridiculous stories are told.--Some unsanctified fellow looked out the other side of the hill. They had to follow it with humility and found it embedded beneath a beautiful grove of maples. Smith's wife, who had a little of the curiosity of her sex, peeped into the large chest in which he kept the engravings taken from the golden plates, and straightway one half the new Bible vanished, and has not been recovered to this day. Such were the effects of the unbelievers on the sacred treasure. There is no doubt but the ex-parson from Ohio is the author of the book which was recently printed and published in Palmyra and passes for the new Bible. It is full of strange narratives--in the style of the scriptures, and bearing on its face the marks of some ingenuity, and familiar acquaintance with the Bible. It is probable that Joe Smith is well acquainted with the trick, but Harris the farmer and the recent converts, are true believers." "They were called translaters, but in fact and in truth they are believed to be the work of the Ex-Preacher from Ohio, who stood in the background and put forward Joe to father the new bible and the new faith."

"It belongs in a museum!"

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Through the mountain!

LOL.... The ONLY THING THE CHURCH GOT....was the brown peep stone AND all the damaging baggage that came/comes with it!!!

Yeah, because the obvious thing to do with historical relics is to keep them hidden from the public. Heaven forbid that the church display any actual artifacts that would help to confirm the Book of Mormon's authenticity.

And hasn't found a thing. Wayne is a grifter.

I grew up in T.O. just over the way!! That was a great time.

Haha no way that’s awesome. Small world, especially in the church. Love your show brother! Keep up the great work. 👊🏻🤙🏻

I'm NOT impressed with the preservation methods the Church used on the Cave on Hill Cumorah. They put down steel heavy plates (like is done on street contruction areas) and covered the site over with soil, etc. so it couldn't easily be found. I wouldn't want them to bury this historical cave/place, too. That wouldn't be the right thingbto do, in my opinion.

We are rigorously working on it :)

​@@madmanmanxWorking on what? Having the Miner's Hill Cave buried like was done with the Hill Cumorah Cave?

Can't trust Dan he has a personal vendetta against Joseph Smith and the church his works proves this fact 😅

@@MRRANDOMZ11 Pestered by historical documents and original source material, eh? You accuse an awarded historian whose accomplishments in LdS studies are praised by active, devout scholars of a vendetta, yet take stock in content from a conspiracy driven, comedy show like this one?! 🤦

@@MRRANDOMZ11 Maybe you just read his material, instead of attacking him. Dan's research is highly respected and has been cited by numerous other Mormon historians. His article titled "The Locations of Joseph Smith’s Early Treasure Quests" in online free.

Yeah, so they could hide some more of the Brighamite history. So they can keep the people in control and deter asking questions that puts the church in a bad light.

Thank you for always commenting and making me chuckle. We enjoy having you visit the ward.

You are welcome. I watched this earlier...and thought I needed time to get back to it and rip them ALL (excepting Don) a new one. Tonight I tried to just stick to humor. I have a LOT more things to say about this....PRICELESS EPISODE. This activity was one of my Shelf Breakers. And as I listened to the responses by Brad, Cardon...I was just SMH. At least Don was sane and honest and I loved his pauses and then followed with punch lines like....."It confirmed the Smith's were involved with this" etc. @@blendbeast7322

@@lukev483 you had so long to come up with a snarky retort and that's what you chose. You're off your game Luke.

Why not bury some golden plates under the ground with reformed Egyptian graffiti written on it. It would be a real thrill for the tourists to dig that up!

So "seed" the ground with relics?? Good idea!! @@senorbb2150

Joseph Smith knew that he had no supernatural powers to "see" buried treasure. However, he also know that Josiah Stowell was willing to pay him $14 a month for pretending to have such powers.

That’s our internal show discord…

@@madmanmanxok, so is that somewhere that I can find? Is it only available during the livestream?

​@@CryptoSurferno I think he means the discord that only the people in the studio are in while they record. Not a public one.

He stares into it, and it tells him things. It is the source material for the books he peddles.

We would all be yoked like Captain Moroni! Let’s go!

Uhm.. there is no Manchester county in Western NY.

These locations would be in either Wayne County or Ontario County NY the present day temple is right on the border of the two counties.

And don't forget to keep plenty of black sheep and black dogs on hand for sacrificing at the stroke of midnight to ward off the wicked spirit protecting the treasure. This is essential!

@@senorbb2150 And of course, the gift shop would sell replica seer stones for $19.95.

It's cute that you write about this stuff as though you believe it's real.

@@randyjordan5521 It's amusing you make comments as if you think you're intelligent.

Meh. This is just loose speculation and goofiness. Don't get to serious.

No. I’m more of a Powerade Zero kind of gal. Thanks for asking. Have a lovely blessed and happy day.

Zapruder Film is already scanned. Those who donated are recorded and will be rewarded when the film is released in a way that doesn’t violate copyright of the film. You’re just jealous you’re not included and are lashing out on line. ***yawn*** so predictable.

@@WARDRADIO Well first of all you never said anything about having to donate to see it. It would not have copyright anyhow so your just stalling it sounds like.

Concerning the cave anyone can dig a short tunnel into the side of a hill and take a picture from the inside out and claim they found a cave. The proof is in the pudding and in this case there is absolutely no pudding. No proof. Just a short hole someone dug and took some selfies.

This is the online equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and muttering "la la la la, I don't hear anything, la la la la"

@@WARDRADIO You just can’t help but to be condescending and arrogant can you?

The Church would bury it like they buried the Cave that was found on the Hill Cumorah. A boy fell into it, so they quickly covered the entrance over with heavy steel plates and covered them over with soil, so that the cave couldn't easily be found. If I recall, it was just deemed a hazard.

Darin "Scott" Southam is a conman and should be in jail for sedition for his claims and actions at the Capitol on Jan 6th. These guys will be promoting his book and story soon! 😂

🤣 🤣 🤣 Cope

Peepstone Joe a.k.a. Old White Hat.

@@randyjordan5521 - You and I should be friends. Your analysis on the denial debate was as poignant as I’ve seen. 🎩🪨🐸🐕‍🦺🧞🧚‍♂️🪶💡💰🪤🤥🤞🏻🪐🛕🤝🧬🧑‍🍳🙌🏼🐴👽

Yeah, bring in Alex Jones and that "Ancient Aliens" guy while you're at it.

Cope.

the folk magic/occult angle is hilarious when you realize the book produced there from is entirely about Jesus Christ and repentance, and not at all about anything remotely magical or occultic.

@@lukev483 I was referring specifically to the Book of Mormon...the product of the alleged folk magic. As for the items you listed,...so you're just going to lump bonafide religious rites, covenants, and artifacts (all with Biblical and/or Near Eastern precedent), to that of spells and folk magic? I don't think so. It's also a toxic sensationalist maneuver to equate a blessing of spiritual and physical protection from God to "magic underwear",

Well ya know, Russell M. Nelson did an interview years ago wherein he demonstrated how Joseph put his head in the hat to "translate" from the seer stone. So the church has already confirmed the connection between Joseph's claimed "peepstone" practice and the production of the BOM.

@@lemjwp1756 "the folk magic/occult angle is hilarious when you realize the book produced there from is entirely about Jesus Christ and repentance, and not at all about anything remotely magical or occultic." That might have some relevance if the book wasn't a hoax produced for the purpose of making money. In that sense, the BOM is akin to bogus faith-healing televangelists of today.

Digging without Finding..... another scheme brought to fruition via The Smith Family.

The church is too busy and financially tied up settling $$ lawsuits filed by disaffected “treasure digging” woke scolds, duh!

This is an hilarious fairy tale. It's like Game of Thrones season......

Have you ever been diagnosed with a mental illness...or been talked into getting involved in a Multi Level Marketing business???

my money is you have experience with both.

Another "good Christian" TBM, trying to refute Inconvenient Truths & Facts...like this Commenter. SMH at the gullibility. @@lemjwp1756

Cool story, bro. Now tell us all about the lost city of Opar.

They dug it out themselves, don’t see how much more clear they could’ve made it that it was a man made cave

@@zrosix2240 You missed the point. They were digging to find the mythological cave / treasure...

lol it’s not a cave. It’s a 🕳️ hole dug into mud

@@rodneyjamesmcguire and nowhere did this video imply any of them actually believe the cave exists. They think it would be cool if it existed, but they were pretty clear about the fact it probably didn’t

@@harambeboy Which was dug looking for a cave, which was what I was speaking to. Apologies for not being clear on that.