Josh Pate On UGA'S Latest Off-Field Problems (Late Kick Cut) 

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Should be a clause in every NIL deal that voids all money owed. That's the only language they understand.

UGA fans as a whole are thoroughly confused and are done defending it. It's the one thing that just keeps happening.

Kirby never suspend these guys. They do this dumb shit and will still be on the field game one.

Look I hate to say this but you gotta make an example of someone. If seeing people loose their lives doesn’t fix the situation then you gotta start booting players or revoking scholarships.

Let Gundy handle it. He’s driven drunk 4000 times

As a Georgia fan I appreciate your honesty

That’s what happens when you give all of them hellcats

They should build a drag strip for the team. Let them race on a private track.

if he's done everything he's ever done why has nobody been suspended for this

“I guess you could kick them off the team, I guess you could do that “…. Just being honest, after a fatal crash, the next offender should have been kicked off. I’ve lost count of how many vehicular offenses that have occurred since the fatal one.

If I was given 6 figures in college and a bunch of popularity I don’t know if I would’ve made it to graduation.

if regular kids do this stuff, imagine treating kids like gods and giving them bags stuffed with cash and expecting them to follow the "regular people' rules. And maybe these are misdemeanors, however we already know this stuff can be deadly. Will it take one of these kids mowing down a crowd of people on a sidewalk for it to be taken seriously?

Look I'm the 1st person to stick up for the kids tell ppl to calm down when 17 to 23 are a little immature. Who knew lol? But c'mon guys. We gotta tighten up. What are we doing? Like there's no excuses.

This has been going on since mark richt was coaching

Coach Smart NEEDS TO DROP THE HAMMER!! 1 strike is a warning, 2 strikes is suspension for "X" amount of time and 3 strikes is scholarship is taken away and kicked off team.

And they have had the nerve to call out the AJC for reporting it.

The fact that nobody is getting kicked off is comical. This is solely on Kirby and nobody else.

its really hard to believe UGA is the only school in the nation with players reckless driving and racing their cars. I find that the UGA and Athens Police are taking a much stronger no nonsense approach to this problem compared to almost every other city and campus.

Kirby isn't going to do a single thing. Spineless.

I got a simple solution IF they have a NIL deal. Have a clause for deal termination for interactions involving law enforcement beyond speeding.

As a UGA fan I’m done defending this. I was done a long time ago. This is ridiculous…

As a UGA fan, this kind of behavior pisses me off. You are a grown man. Act like it.

At a certain point, these dudes are adults. Ppl need to stop trying to find something else to blame.

They need to set up go carts for the football team, so they can race each other off road.

It's frustrating for sure.

They’re the new Urban Meyer Gators

I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended Steve Spurrier

The only thing left …kick him off the team…but they won’t…and that’s why folks keep doing it

It's not just one thing though. Their graduation rates have been the worst in the SEC for several years. P!$$ poor graduation rates speaks to the culture at UGA every bit as much as this does

What else is there to do in Athens during the summer?

“No Way To Prevent This” Says Only Program Where This Regularly Happens

Chronic problems are a culture problem, Josh.

It’s not the PDs fault. These kids are endangering their community

What happens when an innocent bystander or motorist lose their lives? Will they go to prison like the rest of society?

This is getting a little wild

Should play Sammy Hagar’s “I CANT DRIVE 55” as the team takes the field. 🏎

Remember when Urban Meyer was winning and everyone said "he's got a championship winning culture!"... Then multiple crimes, controversies, and other off the field shit happened, then the narrative was "Urban had a toxic culture that only cares about winning and not developing real men with character" Why is Kirby not under a microscope RIGHT NOW?! I love how some coaches get torched and even fired for off the field issues, but the SEC's best coach can just keep having student athletes getting DUIs and deadly crashes, because winning.... That's what is really important

Kirby needs to get something done. You get arrested or something for something like that, they should pull their scholarship. Idgaf if they don’t win another game as long as the kids aren’t out here killing or putting others at risk.

How can JP say "it's not a culture problem?" come on...

Had a Speaker talk to the team about a couple of days before the incident. Those Players do not fear Kirby at all.

Good discussion Josh. In my opinion Georgia bullbogs are an accident waiting to happen these football players stay getting arrested in the off season

kids with 6 figures, reminds me of the movie Big with Tom Hanks

Need to add a clause in players scholarships that say the program can take their driving privileges away while a member of the team and then tell the players that the next charge for reckless driving will see all players lose the ability to drive for x amount of time. Would make players keep each other in line.

Its definitely a tough situations, and I love your point about not being a cultural problem AND not a coaching problem, but a locker room problem. I think its player lead, and I wonder how much of it is really just "kids getting a lot of money and buying cars they shouldn't have" since NIL and all that is making these players way more money than they did before.

Sorry Josh but this is a bad take from you. On what basis are you giving the entire Georgia coaching staff the benefit of the doubt that they've done everything they can? It certainly can't be because they just hired an outside speaker to come talk to the guys. Team discipline is the ultimate responsibility of the coaches. The buck's gotta stop somewhere - Kirby needs to take action.

"I don't know. I always sort of liked playing [Georgia] that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key player suspended." - Steve Spurrier But no cultural issues... LMAO

Josh, you cannot say they are doing everything they can to mitigate this. Kirby makes elite athletes workout? Make them to go reckless driving class? Kirby has yet to enforce a punishment that means anhything. God forbid you take away playing time, or cancel NIL deals. Embarrasing

Have them voluntarily hang their keys up on the depth chart post practice/evening workout/dinner. Then make some key decisions come game time.

We're #1!

This has been going on at Georgia for a long time. Under Mark Richt they had the same problem. Coach Richt didn't think it was a problem that is team consistently led the league in penalties. I grew up in Georgia but went to Alabama, so Georgia is my second favorite team and I love Kirby Smart. Georgia fans are going to hate this, but Nick Saban didn't seem to have this problem. He did suspend people. Several top of the line players transferred because they were suspended or lost playing time because of their attitude and failure to adhere to the standards both on and off the field. I hope Kirby and the team can fix this, because it's bad for the image of the University of Georgia and, frankly, for college football.

"Not stupid people" ... are you sure about that?

Part of me is like if I was given that same amount of fame and money at that age I probably would’ve done a lot worse if I’m being honest but the other part of me is like why is this only happening at uga. You would think you would hear the same stuff coming out of OSU,bama, or other big money schools throwing cash at kids. But it only happens at uga which is weird.

If Georgia loses like 3 or 4 games things might change but if they Are winning don't expect anything to change

Can’t you suspend them for 4 games? Not saying these specific guys, but setting a precedent seems obvious to me. I’m just a dude on a couch though

GSP ain’t playing with nobody. Gotta respect it

Take them to ATL motor speedway and let them drive 200 mph. Get it out of your system boys.

Take their NIL money

Two words: restrictor plates. It worked for NASCAR.

We have removed the staff's ability to discipline... these kids have lambos in the parking lot and have the ability to transfer at the first sign of disciplinary action. What can ya do? The ol 2020 disciplinary tactics don't work in 2024. There is too much money involved and leverage has shifted dramatically towards the players. We wanted these little angels to have more power, now they have it. All the staff can do at this point is "provide more training", the corporate answer...and cross their fingers.

Aside from guys following every player around 24/7 not much more you can do

Make an example!!!

Miami...

Alot more of this going on since the drag strip was closed

Blame it on the PD 😂 dang Josh your a joke

This is happening on D1 campuses all across America. It's not just a Georgia problem.

Have they suspended players for games?

SEC Speed?

I think its a problem of this younger generation, you are giving very young men status, money and power, a lot of them will not be able to handle that regardless of generation, but this one seems to love street racing and drinking in their hellcat on the freeway. As an Alabama fan, GA is far from the only team i think of when i think of player off field issues. There is a lot, but a good bit aren't big names so no one picks it ups.

You know, I am surprised that it doesn’t happen more often everywhere. Give 18 year old kids Ferraris, kids that have been pampered for years and a bag of money what do you think is going to happen?

Booting players who willfully continue doing this is the only recourse at this point. Coaches have lost their jobs over less......

Where is Jack? A code red is needed!!

Josh, I normally agree with you completely and find your opinions to be very well thought out and reasonable. But this one is different. In this video you come across as Kirby Smart’s agent. “Kirby’s done everything he can do.” Bull! How about suspending a player for a game, especially a conference game? How about kicking a player off the team? By not going nuclear he is not doing all that he can do. Kirby cares more about winning than anything else…including public safety and it shows.

Are we really that confused why it keeps happening when Kirby doesn’t seem to punish them?

Goff and Richt before him had players with runs with local police. Kirby has the Internet and microphone pundits to amplify the issues. Money and dumb testosterone is a news writers dream. Athens Clarke county will always be there waiting on them

After a couple incidents it has to become a 0 tolerance issue. It should already have been a "idc how ticky tack the issue is you're gone you did this to yourselves it's your fault you're on such a short leash and now it's automatic you're gone. Says it's unfair idc blame the teammates before you but this is where we are until you guys can earn back trust"

That is on the head coach, there needs to be consequeses when players continue to make the same mistakes.

Smart people, yea right! Not a problem. Kirby will handle it (which is why it keeps happening)

You can't fix stupid.

Anything goes in Atlanta, not in Athens.

Reminds me of Florida's past problems after success (ie Swamp Kings)

I mean ya I get it they’re getting charges but bro CLARKE COUNTY is hottttt for cops. Nothing goes in or out that county without them boys knowing

smart people 🤔

One day someone will point to that terrible graduation rate at UGA, one day.

Tie the reception of NIL money to behavior as well as onfield performance.

So take away what matters most most to them. If you have tried everything else you are left with two options. 1. Take away playing ability 2. It will eventually lead to “bad culture”, if it hasn’t already. Because at the end of the day when kids learn they don’t lose what matters most to them, the ability to play, then they will test the edges of rule and it will be other things. Again if it isn’t already.

Start placing blame on Kirby !!

Just give them underpowered Volvos instead of Chargers….

19 incidents since that fatal crash? C’mon now, I think if other guys on the roster were gonna step up and put an end to it they would’ve done it by now. If it’s not a culture problem what is it?

Welcome to the new world of NIL.

What do you expect when they all driving hellcats and scat packs through town at 20yrs old

What’s happening at Georgia is what happened at Florida during the Urban Meyer era. You tend to believe you are invincible when everyone is telling you that you are.

Boy, this really feels reminiscent of the Urban Meyer years at Florida. They were on top of the college football world but behind the scenes, discipline is out of control, kids are getting arrested, and the players don't seem to respect the leadership enough to not get into trouble. I wonder if Georgia is destined to implode like Florida and Meyer did. I'm sure Urban Meyer thinks he did everything he could, too. I'm sure Urban Meyer thinks their culture was a model example, too.

I wonder how much gets covered up?

Kirby and the university will act swiftly and sternly over this, ha

If Kirby was serious he would suspend players for significant time frame instead of having them play in big games. Kirby doesn’t care enough.

If Kirby kicks them off they could always go to Ok State ...

Kurby call him into his office and gives him an option. Give me your keyes and play or sit on the bench.

Kirby is gonna have to start making a bigger example out of these players. Suspend them for several games.

Hellcat university