This is one of those very few channels in which the only problem with the videos is that they end. It’s an inevitability, I understand that, but damnit I want more of these epically awesome videos. I’m greedy, sue me. Please don’t sue me, I’ve got like two dollars, a rusty nickel and some pocket lint that I think has a penny hidden deep within.
Indeed brother Kevin Ray you're a 999.9% right. But (and you knew this three letter half word was coming .....Bullshit,Utterly,True) as well as everything else wether good or bad it's got to have an end....... would be lot better if it was just 5 to 6 mins longer. That would be a bit more satisfying. I do agree with you all the way bro
you know what's funny about the Jötnar? That they are exactly what other people saw vikings as: gigantic beastmen raiding their villages and killing innocents, minus the magicky-elementaly-primordialy stuff.
I literally cranked up the 350 and played Skyrim for about 30 minutes today. First time in over a year at least. It was nice to just run around and shoot some arrows. To awesone music. 😊
Spoiler free fact about what you said at the beggining: The new God of War does imply that the Giants are... well, all giant. At least at the begginning. But by end of the story, the game let's you know that there were in fact, human sized "giants", although it doesn't really tell how common they actually were.
(Spoiler ahead) But I found it weird that you go to jotunheim and you see maybe 20-30 dead GIANT giants. Your characters then assume they're all dead. But if they're were human size giants you wouldn't of seen them from that height
It's a bit of a word-salad, in English 'giant' ofc means someone or something of great size, but put it into Norse context and giant become a certain race of people who just happen to be called Giants (by foreigners mostly, since 'Jotun' or 'Jætte' doesn't have anything to do with size).
@@haruyoshida2338 Or rather, Eldia itself is based off of Germany and its ancient Tribes as well. And yep, Ymir being the Founding Titan, well.... leads to a lot 😅
@@CornholioPuppetMaster more similar to Karl Marx's antisemitism, there's no real evidence that Hitler was Jewish. If you just purely took the lack of dominant Jewish features, that would be compelling enough, but there were also studies done on his lineage, sponsored by Hitler, and many otherwise. On the other hand, we don't have any remains either, so a genealogical study is impossible.
Hm 🤔 maybe tribe isnt the right word. Their powers are different. The jotnar are chaotic powers of nature and the gods have the power to control these powers. Ägir is the giant of the sea but njord controls the sea. Aesir and giants diffrent... nations? Cultures?
Easy. Following the Indo European motifs, the Primordial Gods here, are Ymir the Sky Father and the Earth Mother i guess was Jörd. They gave birth to the second generation of gods: The Jötnar, who are deities of abstract concepts and forces of nature. But from them, came the third generation, the Aesir, the gods of arts and civilization, who originally Tyr was their chief, but was displaced by Odin. And finally the Sky Father (Ymir) is killed and from his corpse the gods of arts fashion the entire world.
I was literally JUST playing Skyrim, and took a break to eat and watch this vid. Needless to say I was confused as hell when I heard the music. I was checking to see if I didnt close out the game lol
The *irony* of the Norse '''Giant'''/s(!) is they're not absolute chaotic evil/vile Barbarians that we saw throught the eurasia, they have their own goals and individuality.
1:28 In the God of War game Atreus says something to the effect of "Just because they're Jötnar doesn't mean their giant.". Take his his mother, Laufey, for instance, she was around Kratos' height at the time of her death, although it could have been a transformation, we don't know if someone reverts back to their original form once they die.
"Just because they are giants, doesn't mean they are big." But that was pretty close. And still to the point. I find the lack of Jotun lore in books to be quite frustrating.
The Norwegian name for Skadi is Skade. The literal translation is Injury, so you could and maybe should call her the giantess Injury. She was the "godess" of hunting and skiing. She was also the reason no one should ever hunt og ski alone, as she would then seduce them. She was not a gentle giant, so the poor man would not survive this.
Wow, I can't believe it. This has blown my mind as a huge Attack on Titan fan. There are so many similarities between the Jotnar and the Titans and not to mention the first of each being called Ymir.
Marvel Comics really butchered the Jötnar, as such, those who read their comics far believed the contents therein than what the norse myths really depict.
Agreed. As an artist focused on interpreting Norse mythology and culture into sculpture, I appreciate the temptation for storytellers of every stripe to delve into this most fascinating of mytholigies to inspire their work. The issue that you raise is an important one ... it isn't whether Norse myth is hijacked to conform to a modern artist's vision - but whether the audience understands that this is what they are seeing. For those of us who know the original myths, the Marvel comic version can be both dismissed as modern fiction having little to do with ancienct Scandinavian tradition or can be appreciated on an entirely different level. Marvel comics are wonderful and I always enjoyed the Thor stories in that universe ... but I recognize them as something separate having little (and in some instances, nothing) to do with the beliefs of the Viking-Age Scandinavians.
@@Pauli-dg2yv I have never played that game, so I cannot speak to whether or not it is truer to the original myths (though it would be hard to get further away, so I have no problem taking your word for it.) Whether or not it is closer to representing what we know (from primary sources like the Poetic Edda) about the various characters of Norse myth is beside the point - it is still something different. Cool in its own way? Quite possibly ... but different and not to be confused with the tales believed in by Scandinavians on the 8-11th centuries.
Awesome video, I know almost everything in Norse mythology. But I have forgotten a few small things like the names and other things. I love the way of you explain and I hope you will make more of these Norse Mythology. Ty
Really love your videos man! To think that a 20 year old spends his time just watching you spread your knowledge to all of us yet entertain at the same time!!! Would you be able to make a video on who would be stronger between Greek Titans and Jötnar?
Just simply amazing. I love norse Mythology so so much, and you have taught me some more of it! Thank you so much, I'm waiting fof these kind of videos.
Fantastic video. Love mythology. Would still like a video on native American (The People) mythology, especially Coyote, the trickster. Would also love to see a video on African mythology, or even some Vodoo mythology.
Just an afterthought which wasn’t mentioned in the video: the Jotnar could have symbolized the vast wilderness and fear of the unknown which the Norse peoples must have experienced, they reassured themselves with the symbol of the protecting wall around Midgard and Thor’s nature as their guardian from the unknown
@@cocolime6496 It's not like the people back in that time were idiots who just made up gods or beings whenever they were faced with something they didn't understand completely. It's really a childish excuse we use in today's world to explain why these mythologies exist. They were people just like you and me and no less biologically intelligent but only with less google and internet. They too would know that the giant wilderness, is just that, a giant wilderness. You don't need to personify something like that. Further more the idea that there is this big unknown world doesn't really exist other than in our imagination. Everybody knows even back then that 20 miles that way is Bob's village and to the other way is Billy's village and beyond those places are Stewies village and Derpy's village, beyond that are the mountains, and beyond that are more villages, and beyond that more stuff like other tribes ... it's not like the world they lived in was unknown to them. They were quite well aware of their surroundings and had trade going across continents even back then. Lastly, like I said, it's a nice idea, but the truth is much harder to swallow which is why we as humans actually cover up the truth with our false beliefs rather than accept what really happened and what was really told to have happened. Here's the truth for ya, these people didn't lie, the mythologies all around the world have a firm strong truth to them that we've simply forgotten because we're no longer faced with them directly. The greek gods (for example) were a real effective influence once upon a time on our world where gods really did meddle with the affairs of humans (much like other mythologies across the globe). The seers and oracles had a direct connection with them (their version of the internet) but that connection got lost a long time ago and the gods having long lost their connection and influence over the people and they would eventually be relegated to mythology and forgotten as real influences. Scientists later come in and declare that these were just folk tales because these things couldn't have possibly happened according to modern science. However these people quite clearly speak of the gods interfering in their lives and tell of their stories as if they had personal accounts. It is actually quite strange that we today would make up excuses for their honest words that they once spoke about them. As if these people just make up stories to pass time or something. These were sacred stories passed down for generation in order to preserve the truth and what do we do? We just toss it in the bin and literally try to make up stories as to why they even have stories to begin with. Here's an odd story from china for example. The chinese have a story on how fire did NOT produce smoke once upon a time. Then the gods thought it was a good idea that fire DID produce smoke, so they basically changed reality and smoke became a thing. The chinese mythology states very clearly, that now that smoke was a new thing, everybody that used to create fires in caves had to move out to the plains and build houses in the open field because the smoke would kill them in the caves. Do you really think they never noticed the fact that fire didn't produce smoke before? Do you really think they were THAT dumb? No, they wrote down this story because it was such a profound change to them that happened all of a sudden. Remember in your favorite game when they patched out your favorite exploit? Yeah you probably still remember that as well and tell the story to your fellow mates of how awesome it was when you exploited that bug before it got patched out. Smokeless fire got patched out bro. It's as simple as that and the chinese kept a story about it. Ah well I'm probably not going to convince you anyway lmao. Toss me in the bin with the lunatics will ya? That'll be easier and saves me from having to write anymore stuff :D Have a nice day and take care!
BrutusAlbion, wow! You clearly have no limit of mythological expertise and I really appreciate your comment. You gave me an entirely new perspective and I’d like to thank you for that! I suppose I am viewing the concept from a more atheist/agnostic point of view, while you are approaching it as a true believer. I completely respect your enthusiasm and knowledge on the subject, and I am glad to share different perspectives on this and learn from each other. You have very interesting ideas! Again, thanks for the comment. Have a great rest of your day! 😁
@@SK-tw1hk No problem my friend! I'd actually still love to call myself atheist because I dont believe in the gods that theists believe in the classical sense of the word. But what we once called gods do really exist, our conception of what they really are is just wrong by using the words gods. Our reality is closer to a simulation than most people are willing to admit. Our current technological advancement allows us a unique moment to understand our history and future like no other because we are almost capable of what they are with our own technology. I am only a believer (or knower?) because I am capable of seeing the simulation take place through my eyes as I was gifted with a glitched buggy vision and am capable of seeing the data flow at it takes place. I can see the data exhange of objects in our reality as if it was a glitched simulation. I see lots of glitches that lots of people don;t see. Its only the last few years that I realized this. Take care and hope you have much more success in your journey to awakening as a soul! Much Love
I really like Skadi. She is very fascinating as most Jotun are. The moderb day Priests and Priestesses of the Norse path teach that Ragnarok is simply a circle that ends and begins. Thank you for the video and for sharing your knowledge with all.
Wonderful video as always. However I was wondering could you do a video on Odin's siblings. I didn't even know he had brothers, and if you already have done a video on it could you put a link in the comments I would really appreciate man. Keep up the great work man, I look forward to all your new videos.
Yet another well done and very well animated story, with great music and narrating!! I am new to these videos, but have no fear.... I shale watch them ALL!!!! THANK YOU.
From this video, I learned that much of the Titans history in attack on titan is inspired from Greek/Norse Myths Especially The original Founder Titan Ymir Fritz
I was hoping that Eren's "RUmbling" titan would be Gaea since it had long, black hair making it look like the Grudge ghost girl and Gaea is the mother of Titans (and multiple if not most giants) in Greek mythology
i have heard in some youtube videos that relationships between jotnar, aesir and vanir were best understood by seeing them as not 3 different races, but 3 different families with family feuds. like some old tv series, like young and the restless etc... this would explain how thor could possibly be seen as aesir with his %75 jotnar blood. because children were of the fathers family. and how could they reproduce to begin with. (as always, loki is a world unto itself and beyond anyones reasoning)
It's amazing the stories behind all these characters or how strange they are like trying to kill throw by squishing him into the ceiling lmao the story tellers back then get a A+
This video was beautifulie done, I can tell you put a lot of research in to this and I am VERY pleasntly superised. Most people just talk about the Jötten being evil but you brought up the fascets of Order and Chaos, and for that I thank you. I also live the fact you said Logi was a disprutive force not a destructive one. Because some time we need a disrpution to kick up the setament input lives.someting good or bad to make us stop and take pause and look at our selfs and realize That we are still mortal and will have to Kiss Helja hand one day. That being said,as I am A Gothi in the cult of Helja I am disheartened you didn't mention her, But am hopeful she'll get her own video from you.
I grew up with the stories, and my favorite is when Thor goes fishing with the giant Hymer and Hymer catches two whales and Thor catches the midgard serpent. Super good video thank you, let's get some more of that kind. And it. are still some of us waiting for ragnarok, i know which side i will stand at 😀
I believe the Jotnar are essentially the third pantheon of Norse deities. The Aesir often intermarried with them and many full blooded Jotnar including Tyr (before Snorri), Loki, Skadi, and Gerd were considered deities in their own right. Basically, Jotunheim (with the exceptions of the aforementioned Jotnar who joined Asgard) was less willing to be in any pact with the Aesir than Vanaheim. Thus, they became an antagonistic pantheon rather than making peace like the Aesir and Vanir did.
Anthony Wilson he is, I think he’s thinking saying Fafnir while thinking Fenrir, but yes Fafnir is a dwarf consumed by greed which transformed him into a dragon.
@@leekouishi5675 I responded already. He needs to look at the Second Battle of Maighe Tuireadh. You can search "dún mór druid order" in youtube, and on that channel, they tell the story. Though it is not presented as something that will take place in the future, but rather seems to a memory of the past, the story and structure, points out to a "end of world" scenario. Where the Gods of Arts, have one last encounter with the Gods of Chaos. The death of several deities, and how a young god finally brings the victory for the gods of arts.
Sometimes I feel like I wish I was a Viking I would love to live in that type of life To be a warrior to live by my Blade to bring honor to my family or my clan it just feels like your life has so much meaning to it you had something to live for.
The new god of war actually shows that they aren’t all giant. (Atreus’ mother isn’t giant and well, the world serpent is a curious case he wasn’t always so big but still, Atreus himself isn’t giant, or Loki I guess)
These videos are extremely skillful interpretations of myths.❤ They balance technical accuracy with HOLISTIC and CONTEXTUAL understanding!❤ They show a wonderful ability to interpret myths through the lens of correspondence, interrelatedness and context; rather than "LITERAL MINDED" and rigid separation and segregation! - Myths and legends just like everything in nature are not rigid dogmatic objects, but rather, they are fluid, flexible and changeable! One cultures myths flow into other cultures myths! Myths within cultures vary by region. There are no distinct lines and divisions, or set rules! You have a real skill for taking this into account; stepping back, and seeing the FOREST! - Not just the TREES!❤ - This site is EXCELLENT!❤
You actually make several interesting points, as always. I like your research and conclusions. I'm more used to jothum instead of jotnar so at first I was doubting if we were on the same line. Honestly, the more I get into mythology as a grown woman, the more I understand that this God's were very much relatable to humans. They had flaws and we are not talking about " not taking the trash out" flaw. These guys were bad. Aesir, Vanir, Greek pantheon... Did they all meet for tea on Sundays? They killed, lied, hide their ancestry, raped, took mother and sisters as wifes ( this one very prevalent on Greek).
I am not sure that Aesir and Jötnar are different, "physiologically" speaking, they are much like angels and devils: the same entity, but with different opposing ideology (Law and Chaos respectively and in both cases).
No there is one very large distinction one is large and one isn't however there are giants who are small in size such as Loki who is considered to be a Aesir
The Jötnar and Æsir (and the Vanir) seem like different factions within the same "species". Þór is 100% Æsir because Æsir is more like a clan or a family than a separate species.
The word Æsir likely comes from the words ansaz (pole, beam, rafter) and ansuz (life, vitality). They are the pillars of creation, governing and maintaining universal order. The singular writers for Jötnar, which is Jötunn, likely derived from the word etunaz which means devourer. They promote and spread the primordial chaos across existence. Regarding your statement. In a way, the Æsir and the Jötnar do hold the same origin. Odin is half Jötnar (his mom being the giantess Bestla). Thor is two-thirds Jötnar (his mother Jord is a Jötnar and an elder goddess of the Earth). Frigg is 100% born of Jötnar descent since her mom is Jord and she sometimes is said to have NO FATHER (this makes her both Thor's stepmom and half-sister). In addition, some Jötunn are worshipped as gods among the Æsir (Vanir). Skadi goddess of winter, Loki god of mischief (Laufey is his MOM NOT DAD MARVEL!!!).
Would you consider making a compilation for the people who like listening to your videos while trying to fall asleep? It would be awesome to have a long video without mid roll ads that are so startling that they wake you up…
@@Visionario012 imagine Ymir was a nation. His left arm pit represents the northeast (mountains and forests), and his feet represent the south (forests and plains) where trolls come from. After Óðinn, the Great Arranger, and his brothers defeat Ymir (nation) they discover slaves among the ruins. Jötnar slaves (maggots) who were used to mine and smith. The Aesir freed them and basically hired them. Like day laborers
It's delightful to see the amount of research behind these reasonable interpretations. From my perspective, the word-of-mouth passed down by ancestors which has led to some concrete or stable concepts of deities and Nature's powers, indicates Neanderthal encounters and interactions, since some Jotnar were huge, and some were human-size. (Neanderthals were a bit shorter, but their bulk was bigger.) And the perpetual ice - usually far to the north - at one time seemed to be everywhere, and as it melted, people moved from their various Refugia (where flora and fauna survived during glacial events) back to once-again warm, sunny locations. Ymir's blood creating a sea, could've been a report of rising sea-levels post glacier. And maybe some folks watched glaciers calving, with all the trees and rocks and other land-bits imbedded in icebergs seeming to be giant-body-parts. And the leftover pathways of glaciers contain many interesting features (to be re-interpreted) from re-distributed earth-materials. I really enjoy hearing what others think about which natural events may have led to certain concepts and beliefs. The difference between a delusion and a hallucination, is that a delusion has a physical stimulus as a basis for an exaggerated or skewed conclusion, e.g., "The TV is on, and a beautiful woman delivering the news is looking right at me when she talks, and her body-language is saying, she loves me! I'll go down to the TV studio right now!" An hallucination comes 'out of nowhere' so-to-speak, and all of a sudden, the mind comes up with a scenario of a raging fire burning all around, and it's like a 'realistic' dream, and the person flails around knocking everything over, trying to get away from the fire. I guess beliefs, myths, parables, fables, aphorisms, adages, etc., can be assembled from any - or combos of many - observed (or, not!) things and processes in daily life. (Although, some sophisticated folks can purposely fabricate 'beliefs' in order to more easily manipulate peoples' fears and other strong emotions for personal gain.) I REALLY like to hear other folks' ideas on this subject-matter. I came across this video just today, and appreciate the quality presentation of the knowledge. This is only the 3rd site to which I am (now) subscribed. Thank you! for the breath of fresh air.
Honestly we barely know, and second, we should take these tales with a grain of salt, they were writen down by a christian, remember that. If you look at Anglo-Saxon paganism, things like Ragnarok (Reginracu in Old English maybe) was maybe not a thing and perhaps the tale was mostly inspired by the Book of Revelations. Not saying that something as "end of world" tale never existed among the germanic tribes is just, we don't know for sure.
That is a great question. Surtr was the guardian of Muspelheim, and Muspelheim and Nifleheim had always existed in Norse Mythology. So perhaps he's just as old as Muspelheim?
Its very interesting that in the Ramayana series we also have monsterous mythical giants that go up against godlike heroes, I think Hanuman is a notable giant killer like Thor and the brains of this was Rama like Odin. Hell they even had a goal the giants tried to stop of building a sort of bridge across an ocean with the help of apes. It reminds me of the wall in Asgard but in reverse.
From Gylvaginning (first part of the younger Edda/Snorre-Edda, after the prologue) we know that his father is Fårbaute/Fárbauti ("one who hits hard"/"dangerous hitter"), who is a jotne, and his mother is Lauvøy/Laufey (litteraly "leaf island", a kenning for 'tree') aka. Nål ("needle"), who is possibly an åsynje. We don't know much more than that. (He also has two brothers though: Helblinde (something like "deadly blinder"" and Byleist (something like "he who calms the strom"").)
I can't think of things about Magni off the top of my head at the moment, But Madi, he was such a fearice and animalistic warrior that his cult was mainly found souley to be of the Bearsarks. It's roumerd that that nameless Bearsark at that battle off Standford Bridge in September of 1066 was a member of the Cult of Madi. But alot of the history is missing, because as we all know history is written by the victors.
I love norse mythology .I am only 13 ,some kids care about playstation and x box if only they knew how good norse mythology is its interesting, catches your eye whenever I see a book about it I grab it all i am trying to say I love norse and Greek glad to learn from you☺☺☺