JOURNEY Vocalist FED UP with Drama: "They Can Fire Me Anytime" 

Yeah, and I think they are also insecured by Steve Perry's talent and well-produced musics. He can do music on his own without Journey. Look at him now. He is free in doing what he likes when it comes in composing and singing his own sound.

He played his part. Why fire drummer n Valory for studio 🎙️ dudes.

@@princelexvlogs actually Steve can't do it on his own. He need s Jonathan n Schon.

Exactly, I've heard to many people blaming Steve, getting fed up of it, shows it's the other two original members who are still in it.

​​​@@user-bk1kc5kw9d He's had solo albums so that's not true at all. Journey wouldn't be where they're are now if it wasn't for the new sound that Steve brought to the band when he joined the band.

Agree 100%! “Yoko Schono” needs to keep her nose out of band biz! That’s right, she was a Fake (cheating) Housewife of D.C.

Well it's true Journey saved him. Arnel was living like a poor rat waiting to die from starvation when he got plucked by Journey. He needs to stop being arrogant because hed be dead by now from extreme poverty and famishment if he wasn't given a chance

Google up Paula White, Cain's wife..... she's the problem

So true!!!!

Facts

After that documentary came out, they had a whole new market. He sings just as good a Steve Perry, but in the Philippines there are so many amazing singers.

Same here

Exactly what I said on another post.

yep im sure his stress level is so much better without the drama

Probably since he doesn't want to put up with this b.s. Who would?

Would you want to be near the dumpster fire that is Neal & Jon?

A new band for Arnel would be good. Change is good!

Cain joined a cult & now no one wants anything to do with him.

@@15scottie Great point!

It’s better than mimicking someone else’s art.

@@chrisc9200 Nobody is claiming that mimicking or impersonating a legendary singer is a “cake walk” but yourself. He is a hired gun to mimic the best. He did not contribute to the band in anyway that would come close to Perry’s own contributions to the band during his tenure. He needs to move on and create his own stamp. Otherwise, he will be forgotten in a very short time. If you had seen both live you then could compare the different, but obviously you haven’t, except on video, which is not the same. And I have every right to voice my opinions. Now, start singing Chris.

Arnel is a dime a dozen back in the Philippines,

@@mikejones5364 -- Dime a dozen ? In what way ? How so Im curious !

@@rickfortine7454 Go to any Karoke club at night or someone birthday party or better yet a club where most have people covering US Songs from the 70 to 90's era, they sound just like US Singer. I have seen a guy called Phil Albit he sounds just like Kenny Rogers, there was a blind chick who sounded just like Karen carpenter, they are excellent at memic US singers.

@@mikejones5364 Thanks for the feedback

He should've been in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Unlike Neil, who is a turd.

Arnel needs to break away from such degrading nonsense. Form his own talented band. HE DOESN'T NEED THEM!!!

@@veronicazawodniak561 I feel he is fine playing local in the PH tbh. He’s not money hungry and appreciate being a part of Journey. He would be content playing for a small venue, at home.

@@jessicaal415 Whatever makes him joyous! I don't know or met him. But, he seems to have a beautiful soul. Along with a beautiful voice. He doesn't need that constant disrespect on his soul. God bless him

that will never happen. by the time steve was 40 he could no longer sing like when he was in his 30's. arnel at 56 can still sing journey songs in its original key for the last 16 years day in day out.

@@minavamp2811 Not true. Arnel never really possessed the full vocal capabilities of Steve Perry in his prime. Why do you think he gets Deen to sing Mother, Father along with a few others instead of doing them himself? Arnel is an outstanding vocalist but there is only one "Steve Perry" and nobody will be able to sing with that soulful wonder the way he was able to.

@@dougprentice1363 I must be missing something. That post showed on the video never mentioned Arnel from what I could tell so why did he think he was the one being accused?

@@gamersinger5118fact is fact. steve voice was good when he was in his 30's. in his 40's his voice has regressed significantly. you can hear a clear different in his voice when he did his last album with journey in 1986 (at 37) and came back to journey in 1997 (at 47) his voice no longer has the clarity and the range. by then he could no longer sing journey earlier songs. amel now at 56 can still sing journey entire song catalog live day in day out on tour in original keys. steve can never do that.

@@minavamp2811 I was referring to when Steve Perry was at his peak obviously. Of course Arnel has lasted longer. A different time and Arnel doesn't push himself the way Steve always did back in the 80's. There was too much money on the line back then and no way around it. Steve often even sang when he was sick. Of course that would break a voice down. I was comparing prime to prime. You can't compare a 50 something year old to a 70 something year old. 20 years is a big difference. Touring is handled quite a bit differently these days compared to those that Steve and Journey toured in. Deen Castronovo has a better conditioned voice than both at this point if we are being honest and he is older than Arnel by a few years.

That goes to show how ungrateful they are.

So true!

Welcome to Amerika Arnel, where they will even teach you about spirituality, while they count their money. 🇺🇸🤑🇺🇸

Not saying this is the absolute metric, but Neal has 61.2 thousand Twitter followers while Arnel has 1.7 million.

Id never play a gig or be in a band with Schon.

IKR. I really don't follow this band anymore, so it's weird recalling hearing about how they found this guy and it was a life-changing experience for him, and them. Fast forward 20(?) years later, he's had enough of them.

They can also remind him where he was when they found him. Ever visit the Philippines?

@@edrohrbacher1678 they did and still are. That’s why I made the comment. Both sides needed each other and now pride is ripping them apart!

@@edrohrbacher1678 I'd say they owe him as much as he owes them. I doubt they would have had the recent resurgence they've enjoyed with anyone else's voice but Pineda's or Perry's himself.

@@fleatactical7390 I saw them on multiple tours with Steve Augeri in packed arenas, so I'm going to disagree. Also, Deen Castronovo sings better.... While playing the drums

Hé sounds like Miles Kennedy…

Saw him last night and he was amazing!

True, he does an excellent job.

Great voice and energy. Hard worker and no drama. Too bad he doesn't have sex appeal. Then again, neither did Perry.

@@cynthiagonzalez658 Oh course Steve Perry had loads of sex appeal! Are you out of your mind?

They’re so incredibly short sighted, they’ll never find another guy like Arnel. Hope they like retirement.

Without Journey Arnel would still be broke. Journey made him rich. Arnel has never had a hit alone. Just sings Steve's Journey songs.

@@richcampbell6808 Well, wasn't he grateful enough? I saw old interviews of him saying how lucky he was for getting this job and was grateful.

​@@richcampbell6808 what point are you trying to make? The fans love Arnel.

@@whatevergoesforme5129 Hes old now and lost most of his voice . Using autotune. Time for a new singer .

@@razamatazfirzam5724 Yes Sir, Arnel is an awesome vocalist

Its the two original members who is still there seem to be the issue I think.

When I was in the army I had a friend who was discharged because he didn't salute the wife of an officer. She was driving his car with the officer's rank on the window. While it is true that the rule was to salute the rank, he saw it wasn't the officer who was driving. She stopped the car and got his info. Clearly she was an entitled little tyrant who thought his rank extended to her. This sounds very similar. Mind your place if you're not the person who earned it.

It’s what brought about the end of Supertramp and kept them from ever reuniting. Rick Davies’ wife as manager.

So Journey are essentially being Yoko'd?

Just like a man blame the women for what a man dose

@@dianekeller7534 History shows 99% of the time woman are the problem…. they’re never content.

I am actually thinking about that. Despite of their downfalls and huge success, there always having issues within their fences. And I think you're right on that point.

Now that would be awesome.

That would rock my world

Stupid idea. The two sound the same with no contrast. Perry would write the hits and Arnel would just follow him like now.

Why not? 😊

Naaaaa Steve is outstanding

Yes; he’s good but Greg Rollie started the Band with Neal while still playing with Santana!! Co-Founders should never be dismissed!! Greg played with Steve his 1st year!! Let’s face it Neal is a Heavier Rock Guitarist & to me one of the Best I have ever seen live 🎸🎵

Steve was 1977-1998 and Arnel is 2007-2023. Steve is still longer so you need to correct your comment right now, apologize , and never let it happen again.

@@cba4389 nooooo your wrong. Steve was not the lead singer all those years straight, He was replaced in between those years by other singers. So get your shit straight

According to the internet Arnel Pineda has a net worth right now of 20 million...He certainly could afford to retire and live like a king in the Philippines if he wanted to.

Exactly❤

Loudeeeer ❣️❣️❣️❣️

He's not exactly new. He's been with the band for ages.

The "new" singer has been with Journey for at least 15 years

@@craighermle7727 that probably tells you how old I feel. Lol

Your Absolutely right

ARNEL is a millionaire because of Journey. He was broke before Journey found him and gave him a job as he stated in a documentary

@@richcampbell6808 nah.

@@richcampbell6808 you mean Arnel got paid millions for making Journey popular again

@@borisbogart3288 Journey could get any Steve perry sound alike. Easily replaced

@@richcampbell6808 then why cant they fire him?

Worthy comment!

Agreed! EGO just like the late Glenn Frey from the Eagles

He had the same problems with Carlos Santana band too.

Agreed. Is the tour really called Neal Schön & Journey 50th Anniversary Freedom Tour? If so, good grief. Given their situation at the time, despite the circumstances, Schön owes a lot to Arnel for giving the band another chance.

And wasn't Neil Schon also the problem for Steve Perry!?? Seems like he needs to take it down several notches.

This has been going on with the current line-up of Journey over political divisity issues,with half of the band members being Donald Trump fans(/supporters) and Neal Schon being anti-Trump as they should focus more on their celebration tour and their music instead of their personal beliefs(both political and personal) and their personal feelings.

@@stevenmillan9220 And Neal Schon being Donald Trump hater (anti-trump).

@Ignacio Butassi He already said that, why are you tagging him and repeating his own words back to him? That added nothing, less than nothing...

Me too. I didn’t know Journey still toured until last year let alone had a new vocalist. I bought tickets and saw them last year. He sounded amazing live to my surprise. This is very sad to hear he’s quitting. 😢

@@AT-bt2co He's not new though as he's now been with them for 16 years, great singer! I'm looking forward to them coming back to the UK so I can see them again.

How about creating your own unique brand and sound. Or isn’t he talented enough for such a feat?

Arnel needs to grow his hair back, he looked pitiful at the show I saw. VERY AWKWARD

@Timothy A. Olmeda Yeah, that would be great too, even better. He already releases his own music as is. My point was that he's set up well to be his own boss for a post-Journey career if he does get fired. I'm baffled at why you'd read into my comment and imply that what I really meant was that Arnel lacked talent. It sounds like you're just picking a fight. I'm a big fan and supporter of Arnel and I'm sure virtually everybody reading my first comment and this one would understand that. Your comment sounds like it's coming out of left field.

@@alexanderlyon Funny, I wasn’t implying anything about your comment other than he should just go about on his own. Though I don’t think he would fair well because he has yet to prove himself a great songwriter, though that could be arranged by an outside source. My personal experiences with his singing has nothing to do with your opinions at all. It has nothing to do with “picking a fight” no more than you praising him for his particular talents. It’s called an opinion. My opinion stems from the experience of witnessing every singer Journey has had, except for the years Greg Rolie was their sole vocalist for the album’s Journey, Look into the Future, and shared vocals with Perry on his debut on the Next album, Infinity, Evolution and Departure. Those whom have witnessed the band during these years would have the best understanding of whom actually was the better singer, the best replacement, and whether someone is as great as people claim. Experience means everything. I was lucky enough to capture these performances, whether it was my intentions or not. At the same time, I haven’t been seriously into the band once Steve Perry left, and it died even more when Greg Rolie left, even more so after Steve Smith left, and eventually when Ross Valory had left. The eventual slow death process of elimination of Journey has definitely changed the essence of what Journey was, and has only become a heart monitor awaiting its final tick. The band could only truly reestablish itself once again to that status with a true reunion like it had done before, and with a well deserved retirement along with it. On the bands 50th anniversary this year, based on the rumors and lawsuits, this most likely will not take place. What a shame.

@@timothya.olmeda7299 Fair enough. I misunderstood.

He was the most talented. People liked his songs he released without Journey. What songs did they release without him that anyone cares about?

Well they found an incredible replacement. He’s the only one who ever came close there the legend Perry

We all love Steve Perry but at this point, even if he is still with the band, I don’t think he can carry out the load of singing all those high note songs day in day out, especially when they are on tour.

@@franksrockintoyreview2711 After All These Years did quite well, and Revelations as a whole is a great album.

well, he left a long long long long time ago...lol

Unfortunately when bands get up there in years, members start bickering back and forth about something, especially when there are still original members or long time members of said band.

Greed and jealousy.....

Sadly it's already there. They destroyed their legacy by Greed! So sad...they made plenty of money. Arnel should break away gracefully. And start a new band with Steve Perry.

They were one of the best bands, but when Steve Perry left, it’s been all downhill since. Without Steve Perry, there is no journey.

Jonathan Cain’s wife is/was Trumps spiritual leader. You know the lady who was summoning angels from Africa…..that crazy lady lol If you don’t know what I’m talking about look up Paula White on RU-vid

I agree...trash is trash...

That woman is toxic. Neal had Ross Vallory and Steve Smith fired from what I recall as well. He needs an ego check since he’s alienating everyone. What a douchebag.

Yes!!

Neal looks ridiculous with that black hair..😳

i believe its okay. its normal on every band. if arnel have to part ways and go tour either solo or new band well thats how it goes

Very well said!

Lol.

Dude like him are a dime a dozen in the Philippines. Hard part is just getting a visa for a person to come to USA.

@Mike Jones But don't have the same passion about Journey and singing their songs

They've been doing this for 50 years. I think it's safe to say they don't need anyone......I'm sure they are all set for life and if they never did another show, they'd be fine.

Another one. Smh. STEVE AUGERI brought Journey back, not Arnel. Arnel replaced him, not Steve Perry. Journey was already “brought back.”

@Isaiah Marquez I understand what your saying and I did fail to mention him. I'm just saying that Arnel has given them recognition as well.

@@isaiahmarquez9717 That's true if we're going to talk about Journey literally reforming after their hiatus. But it seems that what everyone really meant when they say Journey "returned" or "rose from the ashes" is that they were back to that same level of hype and relevance they had in the 80's with Steve Perry when Arnel finally joined them.

@@isaiahmarquez9717 daddy chill.

I don't know why the other steve left before Steve perry but I do know from what I read Steve perry wrote and co wrote most of there hits songs and managed there but he never had a life all the other members want to do was tour 24/7 no rest no breaks he got fed up

Neil and John seemed to be quietly jealous of Steve's brilliance. They especially Neil always wanted to be the focus of attention. Not classy like Steve always was.

Well I saw them in 2009 and I loved that performance! Pineda and Castronuovo are good singers. Steve left unfortunately.

@@hendrikom Yes , that is a fact. Not saying that the other singers were bad. I have seen them perform and their vocals were very good.

They say never meet your heroes. I guess it's true.

Imagine YOUR HEROES USING YOU

happens to any band those who are not the original lineup would be probably be fired if they want to bring back the og singers

The egos of the old members are sooooo massive I am shocked they haven't killed each other🤣

@@TheAgentAssassin totally agree.

Which is rather ironic, because back in high school (first half of the 1980's - Journey's high water mark), when I listened to their music and before I really knew their history I enjoyed them, but certainly never thought the guitar player was anything exceptional. To me they were an extremely successful pop group with some cool musical flourishes that set them apart from their pop contemporaries - but the guitar was an obligatory afterthought; I was much more impressed with the vocals and Steve Smith on drums (I am a drummer though, so I recognize my own bias there). Sure, they guitar leads were tasty and fit in well, but compared to other much more guitar-heavy bands of the era Journey was just average. As I've gotten older, I certainly appreciate Schon's talent and contributions much more than I did then. That said, to play armchair psychiatrist (with all of the qualifications normally associated with that position - none, to be specific) but I truly think he suffers from his own ego and the fact that Journey was originally created largely to be a vehicle for him - that it didn't really pan out that way (despite or perhaps because of their tremendous mainstream success) he's in someways a bit insecure and as such overcompensates by being something of a control freak. It's too bad, because when I finally saw them (probably six or seven years ago), they really played well, it's unfortunate that egos so often drive the trajectories of bands.

Was he doing that awful bobble head thing? I saw them last month, it was painful

​@@bradcrosier1332 Wow, you read it the way I did too. Neil is a decent guitar player, but without a Steve, or an Arnel, to reproduce that "sound", he's just another one of many guitar players. I'm not sure the word 'humble' is in his vocabulary.

He's no better....

His wife need an Spiritual b.s not Arnel!

Lol. Yeah he is no better thats true...he stole her from her husband he doesnr respect anyone else.

if he was capable of that he would have been successful before now. Journey's classic songs are what brought him fame.

Too bad these issues happen in bands, Arnel is a very good singer! He is not however Steve Perry, he was a great kareoke singer who got very lucky when discovered by Neal Schon. If he does quit the band I wish him the best.

@@robbiddlecombe8392 I don't know. I heard Steve not long ago. Sounds pretty good to my ears.

@@robbiddlecombe8392 obviously you don't know much about his past Rob, look it up he was a kareoke singer. I also stated he is a very good singer.

@@robbiddlecombe8392 I've seen both as well, and Arnell does sound exactly like Steve 90% of the time. If you listen to Steve's versions of certain songs that require the highest notes at certain points in the songs and then listen to Arnel's versions....Arnel can't quite hit that highest note that Steve could in his prime. Of course Steve couldn't hit it now either.

More like one in a billion

no ...I beg to differ...Steve Perry was one in a million...Arnel is just someone trying to be Steve.

Without Steve Perry old song of Journey Arnel would still be broke. Journey made him rich. Arnel has never had a hit alone. Just sings Steve Perry Journey old songs hits. Arnel NEVER has his own hit song!! I I NEVER heard of Arnel's song on the radio. LOL

@Lisa Hodge her and Cain’s ‘pastor’ 😒wife are the origins and reasons of all of this drama. I am pro woman. But I’m also deeply pro human and pro art and music. ‘Wives’ and ‘girl-toys’ of musicians need to stay the hell out of the business. Period. That means recording studio, record company, and touring. Unless the woman is legit-straight-up knowledgeable in music, performing, set and costume design and or is in the business, she needs to stay in her lane.

@@leahwestrum6875 AMEN !! Yoko all over again! Anyone who comes from Houseeives of NJ and crashed White House events has a lot of balls but NO business lecturing anyone about Spiritual matters even if she is wife number 5! Stay off social media! As for Arnel, hang in there, they need you more than you need them! You go… and there’s no shoe!

@Susan Hunter very true Susan; Schon and Cain need to tell their ‘girl-toys’ to sit down and STHU. These c*nts aren’t in the band, have not written or contributed any songs, music, or lyrics; have nothing to do and therefore have NO business in the Industry. And yet they feel the need to but in. Why, you say? Money, straight up. Greed is the ultimate destruction of all good alliances. As well as egos and entitled b*tch syndrome.

true that! Her posts are BS to me, especially how she refer to Arnel as "the other guy in the band". Well, excuse me! That "other guy" is the reason why Journey is still able to cash in big bucks. If not for him, Journey is dead!

WH squatters….reminds me of the current regime 🤣😂

The drummer can sing like Steve. Look up Schon and Rolley in "Journey through time"

I know you mean Steve Perry. Steve Augeri was already there before Arnel. Arnel didn’t start anything. He kept going what Steve Augeri started.

Mmm…going after someone’s spouse….I might be wrong but I think Neal’s wife from what I remember is a person that needs lots of attention kind of a whack job..anyway could be wrong but to all you musicians learn lessons from the past….stop binge drinking drugs & keep your wives out of band business…when they get involved nothing but problems….think Yoko…

I wonder if Arnel got on the phone to Neil after seeing the message from Neil and his wifes joint account ? I do wonder a bit why Arnel would even feel threatened or worried by a once off reunion with the original Journey singer. And I think it seems like Neil has probably taken Arnel for granted , i mean the guy has sung for them since 2007 , thats 15 plus years , he saved the band from fading into obscurity and yeah if hes not treated fairly and as an equal at this point then maybe it is time to part ways. SOunds like wifey might be causing alot of drama in that band espescially if she maybe doesnt get on with Arnel or something personally ? I mean its sad enough this dispute has gone out into the public instead of getting together and trying to sort it out as bandmates and friends...and also it sucks Arnel wasnt included in the rock n roll hall of fame as he happens to be the longest serving singers in the band.

@@stevros48 Second class citizen treatment, maybe. Or NOT wanting to be reminded that Arnel Pineda SAVED the band from obscurity?!

I would say it would be Neil more than Jonathan he seems to not get along with anyone

Steve leaving the band had nothing to do with this drama between Neal and Jonathan. Just when he was to go on tour Steve's hip went out. Steve made it clear to Neal not returning would be the consequence if Neal replaced him.

What do you expect, he is a baby compared to the other guys and their experiences. He is better off doing his own thing.

Exactly..,.. Sounds like a certain someone 's wife is the problem here....

Do I hear Yoko ?

Would love to have seen Rolie instead of that putz they have standing around in the background. That being said, I will be firmly in Arnel's camp. The other two are idiots. This isn't about a credit card, it's about political leanings.....

@@MrJohnnyace777 Do i hear Mrs Osbourne?

Perry would always be Journey's voice but Pineda has earned his dues and can voice his opinion whenever he wants.

@Invencible lol..original what? Where were they if not because of Arnel..

Arnel sucks! Steve perry will always be journey’s one true lead vocalist.

@@xbotLife lol..nobody said that Steve isn't, but where is he now?.. Arnel sucks?lol,can you do just 1 percent of what he did? And let's not deny, where's Journey without Arnel.. I'm a big fan of Journey even before Arnel, but let's be honest Journey is already in its extinction phase that's why they are lookingfor a vocalist.. and thanks to Arnel...

@Invencible lol.. nobody argues who the original is, but who you think made Journey alive again..

Arnel does not sound like Steve Perry. Arnel has an accent or twang to his voice that Steve Perry didn’t have. My ears do not hear any similarities. 🙄🤔🤨

@@SueKay-rq1lr agreed. Arnel is close as they could get.

Fergie Fredericksen would've been a perfect alternate Journey singer as well. Though it's a shame he's no longer with us

If they lose Pineda they're finished.

@@marsha-madness-super-badness You never know if they bring back Steve

@@techminds1579 That would definitely save them 🤔 But, barring that they're done without their current singer.

@@techminds1579 I'd pay big money to see Steve sing with them again...

Sorry Ginger but Neal spent the last frign 50 years earning that entitlement and he hired John and brought him in so he can and will do what he wants. He has been fighting and keeping the band alive. Sorry but how would you feel if you found out your friend decided to add his girlfriend to your checking account, wouldn't feel good would it. More going on than you think.

​@@waynedragon7432 Yeah, sorry Wayne, but without a Steve, or Arnel, Neil is just another guitar player in a band. They couldn't even tour and play their hits without the voice of the band.

Yoko ono ver. 2

lemme guess she is a Republican?

But he wouldn’t do that bu I think Neal has a huge ego and it’s his ego that is killing the band

Both Schon and Cain need to tell their wives to STFU.

Hello shewolf, how're you doing? Your comments caught my attention and that is why I am reaching out to you. Your fan love for me warms my heart, Thank you! It's nice meeting you here.

Surprised? Lol

I don’t know all the details, but it seems Neil is still tryin to resurrect the ol’ team of “glory” from the founding days. He wants to play the same Rollie stuff from before, like Neil always wanted to do when Steve came into the band. Neil resisted the evolution of Journey because its wasn’t actually his style and way of playing (featuring more instrumentation and less vocals). I think, in Neil’s mind, he’s favoring substance over style… but, there comes a time when you have to let it go. People aren’t coming to hear the old stuff when Journey was a very different band and very different Journey music of the 70’s era - fusion rock jazz. Neil wants to go back to his roots. Arnel isn’t down for that, and he is just as much a bona fide member of Journey now as they are. It’s wrong for Neil’s wife to call him out like that. She thinks she’s just supporting her husband - kudos there. But you do by promoting and building up your husband’s idea, not criticizing other band members.