You're a young human hanging out at night with friends listening to depeche mode, new order, u2, your favorite song is ceremony. Then you're an adult, and listen to Joy Division's Ceremony, hits hard, very hard
Ceremony takes me back to myself as a teenager in 1981 hearing it the first time. I feel the emotional pull in my chest, the disconnect, the loneliness and it's all beautiful at the same time, like a found a secret song just for myself. Like I found a bit of hope to latch onto. I think it's the only song I've ever heard that can do that.
I feel so broken...I miss my baby brother cancer came broke our hearts he battled for a year he was 43...I come to listen to one of his favorites ..he was just 4 years old when this song came about yet years later it would be one of his favorite bands...we listened to Joy Division on our travels to another city for his cancer treatment... So I listen I cry ..Rest in Heaven baby brother .. Martin Forever..1974-2019..
@@aaronsmith2054 Thank you Aaron...I appreciate this...all I have are beautiful memories of my young brother.... Many of them through these songs .... Take care
@@tsurupaolo Thank you so much...Nov.2019 my baby brother received his wings days after my birthday ..He truly is An Amazing Person ..Very kind respectful and a true soul...I miss him dearly..I have these songs that I listened too and years later he would too.. Thank you for your kind words...
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This is for the 200 incorrect attempts at explaining this song. "Ceremony" was one of the last JOY DIVISION songs to be composed, with lyrics written by Ian Curtis. There are THREE recorded versions by Joy Division in existence. The first is a live version, available on the Still album, from their final concert at High Hall, Birmingham University on 2 May 1980. The second, available on the Heart and Soul four-disc box set, is from a studio session on 14 May 1980, four days before Curtis' suicide. It was the band's last recording. The third is a version recorded at the soundcheck on the afternoon of 2 May 1980 (along with "Decades") and is only available on bootleg. In all recordings, the vocals are only partially audible. After the death of Ian Curtis, the remaining members of Joy Division regrouped as New Order. Their first release was a re-recording of "Ceremony" as a stand-alone single backed with "In a Lonely Place", with guitarist Bernard Sumner taking over lead vocals. Because Curtis had never transcribed the lyrics to "Ceremony" and because his singing was muted to the point of near-inaudibility on all surviving recordings, Sumner reportedly had to put them through a graphic equalizer to approximate the lyrics. In January 1981, the first version of "Ceremony" was released on Factory Records (FAC 33). Initially released as a 7" single, it was reissued as a 12" two months later. Martin Hannett (Joy Division's producer) produced the record and Peter Savilledesigned the sleeve artwork for both releases. The 7" record was issued in a stamped gold-bronze sleeve. The 12" sleeve was a completely separate design: gold typography on a green background. In September 1981, "Ceremony" was re-released. Gillian Gilbert played guitar on this new recording just after she joined the band. Martin Hannett again produced the record. The single was re-issued as a 12" only, with the same catalogue number (FAC 33). The original is approximately 4:34 minutes in length while the re-recording is 4:23. The re-recorded version was used on all subsequent compilations until Singles in 2005, when the original March '81 recording was released on CD for the first time. There are differences in the recordings. Version 1 has a more "Joy Division sound", with throbbing bass, distorted guitar, spacey vocals, and solid drums also contributing a wash of cymbals. In Version 2 the bass is diminished, cymbals restrained, and the vocals are "drier". The guitar has a sound typical of that used on the album Movement. Drum hits in the opening verse are dramatically panned in the mix. There is a greater contrast between verse and chorus, with the latter sections reaching some of the emotional pitch of the original. In addition to the new recording of the a-side track, the b-side track "In a Lonely Place" was slightly remixed and added more synthetic "thunder" noises throughout the song. This alternate mix also appears on the second disc of Substance and subsequent compilations. The sleeve was changed to a light cream with a vertical blue stripe, though with the same motif and typography as the original 12" single. After supply of the re-designed sleeve ran out, copies of the originally-designed sleeve were re-used. Accordingly, the two versions of the song were packaged indiscriminately in the original sleeve. However, the run-groove notation (phrases pressed onto the vinyl) differ according to the version. The original says "watching love grow forever," while the re-recording's etching says "this is why events unnerve me"; both phrases are excerpts from the lyrics of "Ceremony".The single was re-issued again in April 2011 for Record Store Day in a white sleeve. This limited edition release (only 800 copies) plays at 33 rpm. It features the New Order recordings of "Ceremony" (the pre-Gillian Gilbert take) and "In a Lonely Place" on one side, with the rare Joy Division recordings of the same tracks on the flip side-"Ceremony" comes from the 1997 Heart & Soul box set but the version of "In a Lonely Place" is a recently discovered complete take and not the same as the version featured on Heart & Soul. TheHeart & Soul version is cut short at 2:32, whereas this newly discovered take runs for 5:45 and the full Ian Curtis vocal of "In a Lonely Place" is heard here for the first time, complete with the missing third verse..
Thank you @TheForgotten for summarizing it so well and accurately for us. We will never have Ian's full realisation of this amazing track (my absolute favourite of Joy Division's actually) I think because it is incomplete and we will never know the full greatness of it... but I think New Order did their best by him and I am thankful for that. RIP Ian Curtis, one of greatest losses to 20th and 21st Century music.
brilliant research and thank you for sharing this. Its an amazing song but i'm into all Joy Division and New Order. Take care and thank you again for this.
I've always thought that. The song sounds so much like a goodbye to me, captures the melancholic sadness while also giving solace and hope for the future
This is why events unnerve me They find it all, a different story Notice whom for wheels are turning Turn again and turn towards this time All she ask's the strength to hold me Then again the same old story Word will travel, oh so quickly Travel first and lean towards this time. Oh, I'll break them all, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it's got to be this time Watching her, these things she said The times she cried Too frail to wake this time. 🎵🎶🎵🎶 Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it's got to be this time Avenues all lined with trees Picture me and then you start watching Watching forever, forever Watching love grow, forever Letting me know, forever.
The song and background image brought back a memory, from a cold winter night in 1982. I was feeling claustrophobic, out of place and miserable in a crowded party, when an absolute stunner caught my eye, stared at me sympathetically, then walked over and asked if I wanted to get out of there. The trees were all covered with a layer of ice from freezing rain that day. She was the most beautiful woman on the planet, the trees glittered around us as we walked through the night, and everything was perfect. A crystalline moment...
@@k-leb4671 Last I heard (many, many years ago), she became a very socially conscious world traveller. There were a few stories from mutual friends over the years about her spending time in Sri Lanka and North Africa. She was a true free spirit, kind of a post-60's hippy. Glad there are a few people like that left in the world :)
The feeling this song gives me is one I can't explain. Joy Division have gotten me through the ups and downs of life and helped me to stay grounded when all I want is to just fly away. I'll forever be grateful to have heard Disorder on Skate 3 and found my favorite band, rock on you beautiful people
I wished I would have heard of them before this last week. I been on this earth for 41 years. The only reason I found joy division is listening to a U2 song where Bono sings love will tear us apart. I was curious about that lyric so looked it up and unopened a whole world of beautiful music.
I love this song so much, yet in some ways it is hard to listen to as it evokes so many emotions. Some times I want to feel these emotions, sometimes not
I love the picture. It reminds me of those Christmas times when the lights and the atmosphere seemed to keep me warm and full of hope. If only for a moment.
couldnt agree more - joy division/new order have/had the ability to do this: mainly this song and atmosphere. There are rare times when bands produce that kind of emotion and these lot did it twice!
Nearly 2 years ago I wrote that comment and that sad day is nearly with us again, still listen to Joy Division daily and will have them on all day Saturday , R.I.P Ian your music has helped many a person in a bad place just wish something could have helped you, I saw the band every time I could and I still have the memories.
I don't know how many times I walked with this song on in the streets of Istanbul, it made me feel like I am in Manchester, still does. Rest in peace Ian, you changed my life when I was 14.
Joy Division created their own pop song model in Manchester in the late 70s, beyond labels and fashions, they were unique: melancholy, personality, honesty, elegance, minimalism. Logically the first New Order collected all of that
i met this song one day that i drove one hour to the house of a girl i was dating (we were fighting) to fix the things between us, i called to her phone, she rejected the call and told me to leave then i went to a grocery store next to her house to get some cigarretes, the song was playing, suddenly i got that feeling of fullfillness and profundly sadness at the same time.
Great song!! My dearest friend played this on a beautiful snowy evening in Seattle February ‘19... sounds and visions just like it happened now. She was so beautiful sitting on the floor in front of the fire...outside it looked very much as this picture and I knew then that this moment was going to be forever a sweet moment in my 24 hour clock of Joyful moments of my life! God Bless that woman forever!!!
My Uncle Albert lived with epilepsy all his life. It was hell on Earth watching him have a seizure and being unable to do anything about it. Poor Ian. Tremendous rock voice, horrendous disease. Sad sad ending, but with amazing unforgettable music such as this song here. Thank you for all that you could give us Ian, Joy Division and New Order.
I realize this is kind of strange, but I actually prefer the slowed/pitched down version. It imparts an unreal and dreamy quality that complements the song.
This is why events unnerve me, they find it all, a different story, notice whom for wheels are turning, turn again and turn towards this time, all she ask's the strength to hold me, then again the same old story, word will travel, oh so quickly, travel first and lean towards this time. Oh, i'll break them down, no mercy shown, heaven knows, it's got to be this time, watching her, these things she said, the times she cried, too frail to wake this time. Oh, i'll break them down, no mercy shown, heaven knows, it's got to be this time, avenues all lined with trees, picture me and then you start watching, watching forever, forever, watching love grow, forever, letting me know, forever
There is an indescribable feeling radiating from this song. It somehow goes beyond the lyrics and even the music. It's love. It's life. The emotions put into this song are overwhelming. If this is Ian's goodbye, then it might as well be the most beautiful goodbye ever written.
It was composed and originally played by Joy Division, and also is the most beautiful tribute there is, to Ian Curtis. So, in my view, Joy Division haha
Here Iam... Two years later just about the same dates...I loss my Mom...Dec 18 2021..my soul is crushed ..I had not wanted to listen to music..I'm sitting here under the same lights that Mom sat under in the middle of the nights where she cried for her youngest my baby brother.. now here Iam crying for her...Ive lost my childhood all over again the silence is one you can never let go .. hug your family tight even if it's for a second.. my seconds are gone forever and forever is too far as compared to seconds that can never be erased...Mom I miss you and now Fall leaves and unspeakable frozen raindrops hold you and my brothers name ... Mom Forever 1945-12. 18. 2021.. Martin my brother Forever.. 1976 - 11. 26.2019
Tu perdida golpeó mi corazón. En momentos así no hay palabras ni acciones que consuelen y uno mismo dejar de nadar para evitar ser ahogado por la existencia humana, deja de luchar y se deja llevar por esa corriente tan peligrosa que supo expresar Ian courtis. Solo cuando tenemos más seres amados o objetivos anhelados podemos soportar esas perdidas pero nunca olvidarás pues en nuestras lágrimas estarán ellos, los que ya no están.
Ian had epilepsy in a time when not much was understood about the disease. Obviously someone should have noticed things were wrong, and i do remember his former band members saying they regretted not actually listening to his lyrics and realizing how far out he was. A sad story, but no one is really to blame in these cases, some people just can't be helped
I hear you son,but what I meant actually was joy division...they were well before their time..still so iconic. hope that clears that up.!! fact remains that they're all manc's and bloody well great!
Mark, a Great!!!! band and very influential for bands to come. There was one other band from down the road, that I believe were just as influential and powerful......yes Liverpool's own.....Echo and the Bunnymen.
Ceremony is the only song that made and is still making me cry. But these tears are not coming from sadness or happiness. My tears are coming from something what is between happiness and sadness. I am not able to describe that feeling but it is amazing. Ceremony is perfect in every way it can be - lyrics, music, rythm and it is extremely special because of the aura that surrounds it. I am crying everytime when I listen to it because of every aspect that I have mentioned. At the beginning, my tears were coming from feeling the music and rhytm of that song, then I cried because I have understood the lyrics and their meaning (every line), and at last I cry because of everything I have said, but another aspect that makes me wanna cry is the knowledge that Ian's genius contained in Ceremony wont happen again. Ever.
I think in years to come, new folk will discover these tracks and realise how awesome this era of rock was and how brilliant JD were, it's a music era that you feel priviliged to have lived through and loved.
I really love this song and the fact that there is so many versions of this song says a lot since each one has a different story to tell. It's a song that sounds like a closure to a part in you're life which sounds beautiful, its like wrapping up something. Ian Curtis may you rest in peace and I thank you for you're amazing contribution to Joy Division.
I mean, there were two new order studio versions, a live recording of Joy Division where Ian didn't have lyrics for the whole song yet, and a demo where each of the three fellas in New order sing a part of it, to see who sounded best. It's kinda goofy. This is just a slowed down version of the original new order 7", not joy division. The person posting it is pretending it's some lost demo, but nope.
@@fadedSF yeah I recognise that it's not joy division but I love this song as it serves a memorial to Ian. It seems as this song was fated to not exist and be the bridge between joy division and new order. I know its slowed but it also sounds more melancholic in that way
After discovering Joy Division last year all I can ever do is wonder what would happen had Ian lived and made it America, but I also understand how special and powerful JD is to be frozen in time at a place of great significance. RIP IC
There are times I love to hear what I heard thousand years and many lives before. Sometimes you have to dive into your past, where we were far more free ans today. No mobile, you could disappear when you wanted to join freedom, nobody could find you, no detection, no mobile surveillance. It was more great as we thought when we lived in these times. Good times 70s/80s.
Always preferred this to Love will tear us apart.... Everyone disagrees with me, but there you go..... Dreams never end was also a favourite of mine from this same period..
out of all the versions you can find on the internet this is the best one regardless of the bad quality, if only Ian could have properly recorded it before he left. definitely sounds like a slowed down version of new orders, but eerily sounds like Ian.
I am crying and singing in pleasure and fear. Depression and joy were never brought together that well as in this song and it is this ambivalent Wilde theme that makes me think that life is not worthless. Thank You Ian for teaching us!
I feel cheated. I feel time passed way too fast . If I could go back I would go back to the moments when I first met her. Knowing what I know now I would have changed a lot . We often don't realize what we take for granted til we watch it go forever. Heaven knows it's got to be this time..... I could apologize a million times but its like she will never hear me again. Like I'm truly dead.
I've listened to this song soooo many times and all the other timeless masterpieces by Joy division and new order , sitting listening again and the emotion , tingling feeling , memories come flooding back. Thank you for producing such emotive music , I'll be listening till my final days .
I was 11 in 1981 and must have missed this song on radio , however when listening to 2SM in Sydney later mid 80’s I heard this song again by New Order a went straight to HMV and purchased their 1987 Album New Order Substance ….. I’m 52 and still listen to Temptation & Ceremony two of my favourite New Order tracks ever …. Greetings from Sydney Australia
I remember playing the 45 version of this song over and over again on my gran's record player. I'd nicked the record from my local Woolworths. I was about to turn 14 and in unrequited love with some boy. For some reason, this melancholy song spoke to my achy teenage heart. Still makes me swoon to hear it.
This would be the last song on my desert island discs. Blown me away how a song so simple can convey the strongest of emotions. Feels like a song you’ve always heard.
Look for the film "24 Hour Party People" - the story about Tony Wilson, The Factory, The Hacienda in Manchester, and, cutting edge bands like Joy Division & the haunting vocals of Ian Curtis ~
i remember hearing this song for the first time, i was at the library on one of the old school computers avoiding school and listening to JD on autoplay through my earphones. skipping school just to go to that place to read and later walking home listening to this :•) wish ian was still with us
Some guy here wrote a whole book to try to explain this song. This version is simply New Order's 2nd version that has been slowed down by the uploader. It's technically not an official version. Technically at least. Edit: It's actually one of my favourite versions to be honest, along with the very last recording with Ian Curtis. Though I count all versions as one of my favourite songs of all time. Peace✌️
Tell me again Before I sleep How much you hate me How it's all my fault How you'll take me back How you meant to do that how it makes me better how you love Me One more time Around Before sleep
I have been listening to this song for 44 years! since I was 15! I taught myself to play it on guitar over 20 years ago , 24 years after I first heard it! It still makes me CRY! dx
I love this band I names my son Ian after Ian Curtis not in a morbid way but because he was so talented and amazing that I hope as my son grows up he will not have the depression but I have the talent
There’s just something about this track that makes me feel cold and alone but warm and at home at the same time. May Ian Curtis forever live on in our hearts.
this is the new order version with Barney singing. I hunted high and low in Manchester to find this on 12" vinyl. All through the vinyl stalls of Affleks til I found it.
Verse 1] This is why it’s so unnerving Then again the same old story This is why the wheels are turning Turn away and turn again this time This is not the same old story Not again, but we will be here Travel fast and now I’m stopping Turn again and turn towards this time [Verse 2] I’ll break them all, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it’s got to get closer Watching her, these things she said The times she cried Too frail to wake this time [Verse 3] I’ll break them all, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it’s got to get closer Avenues all lined with trees Picture me and then you start watching Watching forever, watching forever Everything, let it be so For everything, let it be so Everything, let it be so
I have been any Joy Division fanatic since the beginning. And of course a huge new water fan after their Phoenix rebirth. I always fortunate enough many moons ago when I was young to see the New Order technique tour it was brilliant and genius and magical.. there will never be a band that is genius as Joy Division. I love Interpol and think they are a Reincarnation of joy d vision
Haven't heard this since I first fell in love with New Order, and subsequently Joy Division, 15 years ago, as a teenager. This is a song more than the sum of its parts, and considering the sum is two of the greatest bands of the 20thC, that's something. This song's timeless beyond my ability to conceive of that even now.... it'll last. I'll be listening to it when I'm 90. It's timeless 'cus it was created in a fissure in the fabric of their lives, some sort of portal between states...which can be accessed just as easily as the day it opened, after Ian's death, just as much as it has been closed and been paved over by the end-of-history zombie state in which we, and I, now exist. The portal's open for me now...but for how long...
Crazy how time is so meaningless. All the same feelings are conveyed and expressed. I find myself at odds with slowly recognizing throughout my life that good music doesn't just have to be what's currently out. Look through history and you'll find what your looking for. People's bodys grow old but their young spirit is maintained. Thank you for your comment
