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JPEGs: Leica VS Fuji (+ Sample Images) 

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In todays very subjective video I talk about the advantages and disadvantages of Leicas and Fujis JPEGs. Let me know what you think.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:50 Why JPEGs are important (even if you shoot RAW)
03:03 Fuji JPEGs
04:42 Leica JPEGs
07:50 More Sample Images
08:16 Conclusion
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@TechnologyProTV
@TechnologyProTV Год назад
Just found your channel and I have to say you’re a gem to the community. Love the unbiased take and filmography.
@KD__.
@KD__. Год назад
My heart and head want the Leica but it is amazing how good the Fuji is bearing in mind it's about one fifth of the price... great comparison 👍🏻
@TobisTings
@TobisTings Год назад
Thanks!
@leafsfan71
@leafsfan71 Год назад
Finally got my Q2 today. Thanks for all the info you shared. It’s a fantastic camera!
@savnac
@savnac Год назад
Fuji’s In-Camera RAW processing is such an underrated feature too.
@mulkosilma
@mulkosilma Год назад
I agree! Form factor, fun, nostalgia and everything else is cool but in my opinion Fuji's best feature, and the one that sets it lightyears apart from competition, is in camera processing and the fact that I rarely have to use my computer to process my photos nowadays.
@SunshineHB
@SunshineHB Год назад
My most missed feature from Fuji
@timhedrick8321
@timhedrick8321 Год назад
Thank you for hitting the main points. Reviewing cameras is more than specs. The points that matter to photographers, like file size and complimentary lenses.
@christophersmithphotograph2275
Great informative video, for sure helping me along with making my decision to buy a Q2
@Carolyne_games
@Carolyne_games Год назад
Thanks for the comparison! I’ve been using a Q2 for a while and absolutely love it, but coming from the Sony RX1 I find the amazingly sharp and contrasty Q2 images to be a bit overwhelming at times. Also I often find myself more focused on the shooting experience itself when shooting JPEG, so the Fuji cameras have always intrigued me. This video has been very helpful, and I’m probably going to try out the X-T5 for a bit and see which one I decide to keep 😊
@pattyconnelly8823
@pattyconnelly8823 5 месяцев назад
Have to say I liked the Leica jpegs better. Thanks for this video. Trying to decide whether or not to purchase the Q2. File size scares me but with the option to shoot nice jpegs, I’m encouraged.
@philippegiorgionizzola1799
@philippegiorgionizzola1799 Год назад
Very interesting and instructive, plus great pictures, thanks. I had an XT-1 for four years, enjoyed and kept it... then I discovered the Pentax K-1II FF with its 36 mega and its very special color science... it was a great surprise. Ans so I also went and purchased a Leica SL 601... a long lasting desire became true after seven years in the market, being more friendly with my budget, which I enjoy also, specially its bW, even in JPEG. The important thing, I guess, is to have fun and enjoying the IQ...
@jayforcinema
@jayforcinema Год назад
Thanks Tobis! I love the look and feel of the Fuji jpegs, especially the Acros simulation with green filter. If I need "natural" looking images, I would probably just work with the RAW files. The Leica images look really nice, but for that kind of a look, I have the Panasonic S1 which is a beautiful camera, although less street-friendly :) Price to quality ratio will always go to the Fuji, but Leica cameras are beautiful in their own right
@tydra74
@tydra74 5 месяцев назад
Glad you have been in my town (Como). I'm a Canon and Fujifilm user and I agree about Fuji JPGs.
@mikedesimone1783
@mikedesimone1783 Год назад
I'm so happy the pictures I get out of my new Pentax K1000🎄
@treharris1677
@treharris1677 11 месяцев назад
Good analysis. Very helpful.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters Год назад
Fuji JPGs are really pleasing even without modifying their settings. But now you got me curious regarding tweaking some of those settings in the Leica. Great video
@LoFiAxolotl
@LoFiAxolotl Год назад
the Eterna profile.... is beyond anything that other brands can produce... they're just... delicious
@YrsaClicks
@YrsaClicks 7 месяцев назад
Great video and nice to hear your views on these cameras. I just rented a Q2 and had a blast. I am holding out for the backordered Q3 but I have been toying with the idea of picking up Fuji xt5 🤣 Both cameras are amazing in my book. But yes in different way. Thanks again for a great video.
@futc.photography
@futc.photography Год назад
Great video man :)
@ownitaddict
@ownitaddict 8 месяцев назад
To add to what you said, this is why I love the xpro1. It's xtrans 1 processor, 16mp, and film simulations look so natural and I never have to post edit. Even if you gave me a newer fuji, I'd just sell it.
@dangerpig
@dangerpig Год назад
Thank you for the video. I always enjoy watching them. Can you share your favorite Q2 recipes?
@TobisTings
@TobisTings Год назад
Thanks! I am still in the process of figuring out the best settings. Currently I mostly shoot in Vivid, Auto iDR, Contrast and Shadows +1, sharpness -2. Don't know if these settings make sense, but I am happy with the results.
@kangkenty6442
@kangkenty6442 Год назад
@@TobisTings Great video! its the setting still good for now?
@seihaz
@seihaz Год назад
I accept as it is... the fuji sim recipe help a lots in producing better sooc jpeg as I prefer it that way. I don't do editing too much.
@martinohesse
@martinohesse Год назад
Leica tends to over saturate colors, specially the sky, even in the raw files. That's something which I found hard to work with when needed to make delicate post processing. Now I'm very happy with fuji and his simulations (even for raws)
@elijahsakiya
@elijahsakiya Год назад
Raw files are just data, not yet a formed image. What actually does is the default image-formation & processing from a given software (or in-camera processing), that (usually) follows manufacturers "output baseline".
@martinohesse
@martinohesse Год назад
@@elijahsakiya I know they're data... But couldn't find any software to read them in a different way. All of them showed a very hard to color grade starting point 😔
@elijahsakiya
@elijahsakiya Год назад
Indeed. If "self-developing/coding/command-line raw development" is not viable, there are user-friendly choices such as RawTherappee and software alike that would potentially rise interest and fit the needs. Anything superior that will diverge from these popular software... even compositing software (with the help of externally and correctly converting raw files to .tiff/.exr). Welcome to the club.
@lukasgna
@lukasgna Год назад
I wish I could use the Q2 JPGs ooc sometimes. But it's really hard to find a "recipe" like with Fuji because you don't have an in camera RAW converter to tweak. Also, the colors are not acurate on the display and differ from the EVF. Did you find a good "film simulation" on the Q2?
@CarlosPerezFilms
@CarlosPerezFilms Год назад
Amazing, thanks for sharing! Would the evf show the jpg selections. For example can you choose the monochrome option and have the live view / evf be in monochrome?
@WilsonGomez
@WilsonGomez Год назад
I keep all my photo in Lightroom so I only shoot raw, there always something to edit from straightening composition to removing chromatic aberration and pimples from people face.
@thijskennis8757
@thijskennis8757 Год назад
Nice Video!
@HatefYaminiOnline
@HatefYaminiOnline Год назад
Great overview. Do you adjust your JPEG profiles on your Q2?
@SpruceUp612
@SpruceUp612 2 месяца назад
I didn’t like the jpegs out of my original Q, but the SL2 jpegs are fantastic. And I’ve found that the Leica Fotos app actually connects and transfers files fast, I no longer bring an SD card dongle for my phone around. I am so tired of editing raw files and usually after a few years my style has changed and the edits look bad anyways. Maybe the jpegs will be timeless. I’ll still use raw for astro or certain landscape work though. Another trick I’ve started is leaving the WB set to 5600 95% of the time.
@ReinoldFZ
@ReinoldFZ Год назад
I have a Fujifilm X100S, some people says their Leica Q is in another order of quality of how real the photos with it look. Fortunately in the web examples I cannot see it, in fact most of the time, as in your video, I just like more the Fuji photos, but maybe is due that where I live color is always too present.
@thorstenwieszniewski6875
@thorstenwieszniewski6875 Год назад
Hi Tobis, Can you tell us, which setting is less saturated in the Q2: Standard or Natural? I think it is much better, if you can choose the degree of saturation in simple steps like in the Sony RX 100 Series, in which you can choose between + 3 and - 3. If you choose - 1 you get simple Perfektion. Same thing at Olympus: choose Adobe Color Space and Watch the pics at „normal“ sRGB Monitors and the Color matches the real World colors nearly 100 %!
@ajgfive
@ajgfive Год назад
Still toying with getting an X100v Fuji, I really like how it renders jpeg's, so yes I prefer the Fuji images
@kwisatz_haderach
@kwisatz_haderach Год назад
To be honest, of the jpgs you showed here, the ones of the Fuji looks far more pleasing to me. The X100V is the first weather sealed of the X100 series and you may tilt the screen and can go easily low, very low, without neck breaking contortion skills 😅
@frankhu8692
@frankhu8692 5 месяцев назад
especially considering the q3 that have same functions cost four times, if x100vi can have enough stocks and fair price it would be such a joy to use, heard news that confirmed it to have 40mp sensor with ibis
@jetfuel12
@jetfuel12 Год назад
Thanks, interesting video. While I don't have the Fuji to compare, I do find the Q2 jpegs a bit bland. They're fine, but bland. I would love to get that wow factor straight out of camera. Sometimes you just don't want to spend hours editing hundreds of RAW files! With that said I would love to see a video on how you post process your images, as I've struggled to find settings that work for me! Do you have presets or is each photo edited individually?
@TobisTings
@TobisTings Год назад
Thanks! I usually create an individual preset for every set of images I shoot and then use that for all the images with some individual tweaking. I don't go too hard to too in depth with cleaning up my images in LR, so it doesn't take up a lot of time.
@writershootsfilm
@writershootsfilm Месяц назад
Leica JPEGs treat daylight as 4600K instead of 5300K to 5600K. Thus the default is cool (bluer) & contrasty. Imho, Fuji JPEG is best. At weddings I can give the clients' family and friends nice samples during the day. I shoot both RAW with RAW backup on my main fuji but have a 2nd fuji for RAW with JPEG backup.
@TobiVideos
@TobiVideos Год назад
Hey Tobi, vielen DANK für deine Videos! Welche Tasche benutzt du in 5:50 Min? Viele Grüße Tobias
@gride5153
@gride5153 Год назад
Great video thanks. I’m looking to buy a new camera for a two year long trip. I do like the idea of getting the Q2 - just not the cost. I really don’t wish to do any post work to so many images. And I certainly don’t want to store TB’s of data. So I think it’s JPEG’s for me. I really wish Leica would add a similar “recipes” concept to their software.
@louiswolfinger3011
@louiswolfinger3011 Год назад
The Fuji X100V would definitely be your best bet. Much cheaper than the Q2, silent leaf shutter, integrated flash, evf as well as ovf, tiltable screen, weather sealing, tons of jpeg options and much smaller and lighter, while still having an excellent build quality. You won’t be able to fit the Q2 in your jacket pocket, you could take the X100V just about anywhere with you. That is, if you can get your hands on one, considering that they’re mostly all sold out everywhere
@professionalpotato4764
@professionalpotato4764 Год назад
If you shoot wide, get the X-T4 or the new X-T5 (same price), and add the 18mm f/1.4 prime. I daresay that's Fujifilm's best lens to date. It would give you a more accurate 28mm equivalent fov since the Q2 is roughly a 24-26 apparently. Storage is cheap really... no excuse not to shoot RAW. Just shoot RAW + Jpeg and keep the RAW files as a backup. I've barely used up 2 TB for photos in the last 3 years.
@TeamRamRod25
@TeamRamRod25 Год назад
Nice Sebenza!
@xXLegendXx70
@xXLegendXx70 11 месяцев назад
How does your Fuji X-T30 have the navigations buttons instead of the pointer thing button next to the screen?
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred Год назад
Imagine the day everything shifts to heif. 10bit, much smaller sizes. Fuji xH2 has heif built in but don't know if profiles work on that though
@martian9999
@martian9999 Год назад
Ha! I got most of the images right. I know the color of my Color Chrome skies!
@dikiddikid9587
@dikiddikid9587 Год назад
6:02 if you dont mind me asking; what backpack is that?
@picturemaker
@picturemaker 3 дня назад
The jpegs out of the Q2 are among the best there is along with the SL2s. The difference between the FUJIFILM and Leica jpgs is personal perspective. If you keep shooting both, over time you will gravitate toward the Leica jpgs as yo begin to realize the subtle but important quality difference. Leica has a natural realism, depth and rendering that is unsurpassed by any camera manufacture. The only thing we need to do is set the white balance - if you want it warmer for example - set the exposure and shutter speed. Photography as it is meant to be. The thing about Leica is this, the rendering is timeless and that's very purposeful. Images from a Leica will stand the test of time. Images from Fujifilm perhaps not depending on how stylized the individual user decides to make them. Fujifilm is not subtle and you notice this when you use Leica for a while. The only other manufacture that comes close to Leica in terms of SOOC jpgs would be Nikon. The D700 or D3/4 for example. People tend to need more and more and more. More colour shift, more contrast, more drama. It's the way of things these days. Elegance however is in the lesser detail. Again, timeless. That's what Leica does.
@PeterPrism
@PeterPrism Год назад
X pro1 x ever !! RAW+JPG and in camera processing is the best thing u can do
@LoFiAxolotl
@LoFiAxolotl Год назад
i love my Leicas.... but the digital ones... for me... so far... have been i can't think of any words that would be appropriate to use around other humans.... Leica has the glass... the build quality... the service and support... but the sensor is just another Sony sensor just like everyone else uses... i prefer using a Fuji (X-H1 & X-Pro3) with M Mount Adapter for Digital Photography.... it's the best of both worlds
@user-yp6in8nl9z
@user-yp6in8nl9z 6 месяцев назад
if you use capture one you can get all the recipes and apply them in post. best part, you can apply those recipes to any image using any camera.
@mariastefanovich3376
@mariastefanovich3376 Год назад
Which of the two would you recommend purchasing for a very immature photographer?;) like zero experience 😄
@44akiro
@44akiro Год назад
For me the Fuji's pictures JPEGs were the best
@jeremyfielding2333
@jeremyfielding2333 Год назад
There is quite a lot you can edit on jpegs, you are not stuck with the exact file you took.
@andyjones5192
@andyjones5192 Год назад
I’ve been shooting with Leica for a long time with M, SL & Q Systems and found the JPG‘s always to be mediocre to say the least compared to other brands. Ok, so one spend all that cash on a full frame systems so why bother anyway with JPG‘s? I guess that might have been the thought at Leica too. Their Raw Files on the other hand are really the lick. Incredible files come out of that cameras. So if you’re not willing to spend time in post to tweak your files you might be way better of with the Fuji Jpgs. I like the output a lot even as you said sometimes Fuji is overdoing it a bit.
@TobisTings
@TobisTings Год назад
Couldn't agree more. Love Leicas RAW files and they are so easy to handle in Lightroom.
@TylerAldrich
@TylerAldrich Год назад
Reduce noise reduction to -4 and sharpening to at least -2 and you won't get that waxy artificial look from your Fuji jpegs.
@franssanders7834
@franssanders7834 Год назад
Little bit strange in my opinion that you do change setting in the Leica and like them for the natural look. You can do the same in Fuji ad you wish by adjusting to a less processed look.... If you like. And doing so saving also a lot of money!
@paddington2063
@paddington2063 Год назад
I find Fuji always has a bit of a processed look. Their colours are just a bit too unnatural by default.
@kwisatz_haderach
@kwisatz_haderach Год назад
80 MB? Can’t the Q2 do lossless compressed DNG? The lossless compressed 14 bit NEF of e.g. a Nikon Z7 (comparable sensor resolution and amount of details in shadows) are about 45 to 55 MB. If I convert them by Adobe’s DNG converter, selecting lossless compressed, the file size is plus/minus retained.
@magnusnordstrom9594
@magnusnordstrom9594 Год назад
I shoot both raw and jpegs, on the same photo, if i for some reason want to edit in the future.
@TobisTings
@TobisTings Год назад
Can't believe I didn't mention that in the video: Thats what I do as well. Always RAW+JPEG.
@ThomazMartinez
@ThomazMartinez Год назад
So if you edit what you prefer then?
@Eliehbk
@Eliehbk 3 месяца назад
I have a Q3 and X-T5. The black and white JPEGs from Leica are hands down best in industry. The colored JPEGs are better out of the Fuji. That said, I enjoy shooting with the X-T5 more.
@itswrongtokillanimalsifyou2837
Slight price difference, also.
@FeelINi1
@FeelINi1 Год назад
All this is good, but the jeep will never be better than RAW. And For processing Fuji frames - only Capture One! Although, as we know, the camera is not the main thing, the main thing is skillful hands and trained eyes
@robmcd
@robmcd Год назад
JPEG’s king
@CheerleaderTW5566
@CheerleaderTW5566 Год назад
I have Q1 but Jpg just like tragedy , I only use RAW on Q
@dummatube
@dummatube Год назад
The colours of your blues look very weak and slightly cyan. Are you shooting JPGs with embedded sRGB web only colours instead of full gamut Adobe RGB? You should ALWAYS set your camera to Adobe RGB in the menus!
@stefanorossi8246
@stefanorossi8246 8 месяцев назад
In questi ultimi anni ho usato solo Fuji XT3, provengo da NIKON D3, ma non tornerei più indietro. Ho acquistato una Leica Q, e sono rimasto deluso (come te) per la qualità dei files… Tanto che penso di tornare al 100% a Fuji.
@lensman5762
@lensman5762 Год назад
You need to try Olympus Pen F or EMg MKII or II to see how fine a jpeg can be out of the camera. Fuji jpegs are mostly over processed. I don't have Leica digital so I couldn't comment on the Leica jpeg. One more important point is that shooting jpeg, enables the photographer to free him/herself from the schakles of the likes of Adobe, or Capture One or Nik Software and RAW processing. Any basic image editing software would capable of editing jpegs. The last and the most important from my point from my view, because I have shot film for nearly 45 years, is that the ability of the photographer to mess about with a jpeg file is rather limited, unlike RAW. This will make the photographer to think ( as much as thinking is allowed in the digital world ) before taking a photo. This can't be a bad thing, to slow down and think about what you are trying to photograph. Persoanlly, I am sick of watching ' fineart photographers ' taking any old photograph and then proceed to edit the RAW file time and time again, to produce a cliche that they call fineart.
@drs-Rigo-Reus
@drs-Rigo-Reus 4 месяца назад
‘Massive firmware update by Leica….. ‘ why not right away when on sale? Confused…
@Narsuitus
@Narsuitus Год назад
I shoot Fuji X-Pro1, Fuji X-Pro2, and Leica M10. I see so significant difference in the jpeg images from any of them. However, the two Leica M10 I owned were defective. The first one was so bad that Leica returned my money. The second one I bought had a defective sensor that cost too much for me to repair.
@cristibaluta
@cristibaluta Год назад
Leica wants you to shoot like in the old days, only few images
@smaeyl
@smaeyl Год назад
The Leica is just an amazing camera. It’s also true that the Fuji jpegs may look artificial. The Q2 is my dream camera. I’m pretty sure I’ll buy it one day, maybe in a few years. Hopefully the Q3 will be even better.
@philippenadal6423
@philippenadal6423 Год назад
I owned both devices, first the X100V which I sold for a Q2. I completely agree with your comments. But, it seems unthinkable to me to buy a camera like the Q2 and then not post-process your photos. No need to learn how Lightroom works in detail. The simple use of automatic correction transforms the Q2's RAWs into superb JPEGs. Then comparing the JPEGs of the X100V with those of the Q2 (after post-processing) is like comparing a Picasso with the photo from the French postal calendar. Admittedly, the Q2 is much more expensive, but the results are absolutely not comparable.
@mr.meowmeow505
@mr.meowmeow505 Год назад
I’d say that’s dependent on the subject, whether they are totally “incomparable”
@chrisachristie
@chrisachristie Год назад
@@mr.meowmeow505 yea, the dude obviously loves his Leica, but obviously lacks experience.
@artgreen6915
@artgreen6915 Год назад
Results absolutely not comparable? I suspect this is a serious exaggeration. Edit: wait you think it's fair to compare computer slow processed JPEGs from one camera with instant camera processed JPEGs from the other camera? Why?
@LoFiAxolotl
@LoFiAxolotl Год назад
i would argue that if you spend $6k on a camera it should deliver pictures that need less editing.... which by the way is kinda what Leica wants... also there have been multiple studies... that people can't tell the difference between APS-C & Fullframe and also between the different brands... especially if you're editing the photos you can make them look exactly the same... as both are using the identical Sony sensor..... mostly people refer to comments like yours as "poser"
@philippenadal6423
@philippenadal6423 Год назад
@@LoFiAxolotl 227 / 5 000 Résultats de traduction Résultats de traduction Many people, too, can't tell the difference between an Iphone photo and an APSC photo.... To all of this I say if you're not able to tell the difference you're really right make do with an IPHONE.(Réponse écrite en français et traduite par Google)..
@chuchonmc
@chuchonmc Год назад
Really people pay 8000€ to shoot in jpg?
@michialharris1850
@michialharris1850 9 дней назад
On the lie a it’s the lens…… micro contrast
@ductritran8637
@ductritran8637 Год назад
If everyone keep using photo shop or light room then who care which camera produce better photo . Just buy cheap camera will do .
@klausjones9012
@klausjones9012 2 месяца назад
Sinn 104. Nice!
@emmdod
@emmdod Год назад
Leica, a poor man's Fuji.
@kamalchoudhury2910
@kamalchoudhury2910 Год назад
And the cost of that Leica... :)
@ChrisWhittenMusic
@ChrisWhittenMusic Год назад
I’ve shot both and the Leica is clearly better than the Fuji. But I shot raw on both. I sometimes put Fuji jpeg on Instagram, but you’d never buy any Leica to only shoot jpeg.
@LoFiAxolotl
@LoFiAxolotl Год назад
11/10 Leica Shooters would say you never buy a digital Leica
@ChrisWhittenMusic
@ChrisWhittenMusic Год назад
@@LoFiAxolotl The Q and Q2 are fabulous. I love my M240. I didn't really like the SL or CL.
@josephchristoffel
@josephchristoffel Год назад
Why would you want your picture to be natural as hell? Might just use your eye instead of a camera.
@justusliljestrom3177
@justusliljestrom3177 Год назад
Perhaps he wants to capture and save what he sees. 🤯
@khanhtranvan8761
@khanhtranvan8761 Год назад
After shooting with Xpro 2 for 3 years i sold all of my Fuji lens and the Xpro 2 , buy a Leica X Vario and never touch Fuji again . Leica is just a world apart when i compare the Jpeg , the Xpro 2 almost always got wrong shadow tone , Leica take time to see what it is and not many people will get it especially when you are new to photography .
@antoniomiguelsimao
@antoniomiguelsimao 5 месяцев назад
In short, the Fuji is still better than the very expensive Leica
@paddington2063
@paddington2063 Год назад
Maybe a controversial opinion, but I just really dislike Fuji colours. I actually am deep in the GFX ecosystem and have a lot of great to say about it, but that’s not one of them.
@ericwilson2632
@ericwilson2632 Год назад
Do you use your histogram??? Lol...
@mauricerijnders3507
@mauricerijnders3507 Год назад
Shooting jpegs on a Leica… 😂
@jonesnax
@jonesnax 4 месяца назад
No offence, but I can't afford a Leica
@cubapawlac
@cubapawlac Год назад
First of all, show the same shots made by both cameras… these pics are completely not comparable…
@Beinhartwie1chopper
@Beinhartwie1chopper 10 месяцев назад
German accent
@theonlinething1039
@theonlinething1039 Год назад
Hört mal ihr Teebeutel! So geht das einfach nicht, wir leben im Jahr 2023!! Unverschämtheit
@gordonmohr2268
@gordonmohr2268 Год назад
fuji always wins against over hyped and over priced kraut kamera
@apocryphal_man
@apocryphal_man Год назад
Intelligent and sensitive comment of the month.
@wasabiginger6993
@wasabiginger6993 Год назад
@@apocryphal_man … exactly! … still living in a cave on Mars
@Bollywoodhollywood2023
@Bollywoodhollywood2023 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂 grapes are sour 😂😂
@Eliehbk
@Eliehbk 3 месяца назад
@@apocryphal_manlol
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