Ju 87 Dive bombing # 1 - Inverted Attack Approach 

SqueakySniper Yeah that's why I put that in too. I didn't notice it until I was recording the explosion, but then I had a good laugh when I saw him trot out :-) A nice little touch by the devs.

Axel Norén He's about 10 seconds too late running away :-)

he runs like an old man lol

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Thanks, hard to believe this video is that old now lol

6 Years**

@@CageyLobster And many more I'm sure :-)

8 years...and still stucking around The fun part is: it took me almost 9 years to appreciate the control and precision needed to perform a clean traffic pattern. Your way to "learn the aircraft" became a passion. No pew pew for me until I can fly a traffic pattern with the grace and control of a ballerina... And after that: no pew pew without clean execution of weapon employment procedures. It's n addiction! ❤

After 9 years still the best ❤😊

Stukas do have that feature, but in BoS that whole system with the contact altimeter isn't modeled yet so it's not functional.

If you read stuka pilot diaries, they disabled it as a useless feature which took away their control and freedom. "And what did we think of the new automatic recovery system that was now being installed in production Ju 87s? Not a lot, was the short answer to that. It was useless on operations, as it couldn’t be manually overridden. We didn’t want it, didn’t need it, and had it disconnected on all our new machines the moment they were delivered. Once the enemy’s Flak gunners cottoned on to the fact that every one of us was recovering and climbing away at exactly the same height and at exactly the same angle they would have had an absolute field day. During this most vulnerable phase of our attack we needed full tactical freedom of movement, which is why we preferred to fly by hand. This enabled us to twist and turn in all directions and thus gave us a much better chance of being able to dodge whatever Flak was being thrown at us." Memoirs Of A Stuka Pilot by Helmut Mahlke

@@ElZilchoYo ... it makes sense.

Well, that's what I always did. Besides, there's a tutorial in the game since the Stuka was included.

No problem, that's why I do this! Be sure to have a look at the A-20 skip bombing video too so you can take out ships that way as well. (you can apply the principle there to any airplane)

Good to hear! I expect that any of my tutorials will work in WT too as I base then off RL techniques

Great to hear Jasper, well done!

Yeah I can't imagine what it would be like to point your nose straight down with AA going off all around you in real life. You should like the new Stuka dive bombing video I'm working on :-)

No worries Barbarian, you're welcome! :-)

Yeah that's always a good laugh!

Nume It just takes practice. Once you get a feel for the diving trajectory you need to take it all runs like clockwork.

Yep. At the slowest pace possible lol

At least you have VR to enhance the experience! It must feel pretty intense

I suppose you could offset very slightly but personally I always just use the crosshair and it's good enough for me. If I take the wing bombs I'll either drop them at the same time as the center bomb IF I'm attacking a large target (bridges/facilities), otherwise I'd drop the center bomb first then do a shallower dive angle against smaller/softer targets.

CTRL+N, same as bomb bay doors I believe

@@RequiemsACTL God. Thank you. I never could have thought of that. 😅

Stew very cool! I'd love to see a scan of those pages for sure :-)

Well here is the page on section 10-25 of the B-2 Operations Manual at the bottom (Before the Dive, Proceed in the Following Order:) Steps 1-4 with bracket }Not Applicable at transition from Cruise to Dive. i.imgur.com/3lGMq5I.png I will make all the images into a PDF and upload them to my google drive. I just need to learn more German so I can read the whole thing :) I have to say though your videos are very informative I use to do kind of the same thing back on my old website for ww2online way before RU-vid back in 2001. Of course ww2online had a few things wrong on the gauges. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aEbVSTkL8Qg.html

Here you go the full Ju-87 B2 manual everything is the same as the D model except a few things like engine performance is a little better in the D model. Hope you can read German which is my problem. You have to download it and use a PDF reader for some reason it will not work with the web browser. Operations start on page 320 or Section 10. drive.google.com/file/d/157lHBo65gXE-crdK7IjFP2tX4q-WbP72/view?usp=sharing

Thanks for making the effort Stew! Very much appreciated! My German has never been great but I do enough to get what I need when making these videos from the flight manuals I have.

Well I will say yours is one of the better tutorials I have seen it is almost by the book as they say :) I just wish they would put in the automatic pullout system which is what the radio altimeter is for, it is modeled on Cliffs of Dover. Here is a nice little video on Dive Bombing it is an original USAAF training video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lOz_i_2USkY.html

Doing this in VR is something else!

@@RequiemsACTL I bet! I still haven’t made the plunge from track IR

SpaceGaming.fr It's the same as the bomb bay doors key, CTRL+N.

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Hi Nick, there are two things you need. 1. What you want to do (in any of the aircraft) is climb out at "Climb Power" if it's available, otherwise climb using the power setting that allows for no time limit on it. 2. Be aware of your maximum takeoff weight. It takes a little math to work out, but you may need to reduce your fuel load depending on how heavy your bomb load is. You must never exceed your maximum takeoff weight as that is a limitation on any airplane. If your runway is shorter you will need to take less fuel also to increase your takeoff performance. I'll let you try and have a go at figuring it out first, so if you have trouble let me know and I'll explain it. Check out this thread and look at the Ju 87 D-3 to find the "empty weight" "minimum weight" etc to figure out your takeoff weight based on your bomb load: forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/25993-aircraft-flight-and-technical-specifications-and-operational-details/ I don't own a VkB Gladiator joystick (not sure why you thought that). I use a Logitech G940 with MFG Crosswind pedals.

Well the plan was to explain the contact altimeter in this video, but the developers haven't created any functionality for the cockpit altimeter yet.

@@RequiemsACTL Oh okay. Thats a pity. I hope they do it in the future. Thanks for your answer and your videos at all. You've helped me a lot alltough i'm still shit.

It sounds like you are applying too much forward stick too quickly resulting in too much negative Angle of Attack for your airspeed, leading to a stall and/or spin. Either roll inverted to dive and attack or push forward on the stick much more gradually.

What it is, is a knee jerk reaction and me pulling up on the stick too hard. But it is everything but the German planes which give me the most trouble. "L"

Oberst Jon Yeah it sounds a bit different, but it's representative enough at least. The main problem with the siren for me is that in MP no one else hears it but you, not even your gunner if you have one. Ie - The sound only occurs client side :-(

Doppler

The real footages probably don't have the "real" sound. They usually were silent movies.

Axel Norén There is a limit, and if you pull back too hard too fast then you will exceed it. If the pull is gradual enough so you black out a little bit then that's fine, but if you try and pull out really fast then you you will likely black out and overstress the airframe.

The Air Combat Tutorial Library I see. I will be careful then.

Ugh that's the worst...the only reliable way I've found to avoid getting killed by AA is to always be changing your direction of flight

Pushing over or "bunting" with negative G is definitely a way the Luftwaffe did it AFAIK from what I've read. I remember seeing videos too though where they roll over inverted so I don't think it matters which way you choose to get in position. What is important is that your dive ends up very steep about 80-90° and on target, so use what works for you. I simple prefer rolling inverted because it gets me lined on my target faster and the pullout after dropping the bombs automatically places me on 180 degrees off my entry heading and away from the target area.

The Air Combat Tutorial Library thanks. I though that just Hollywood made to make the scene in their movie looks so awesome beside I've seen old footage they do the inverted roll dive

Patrick Bateman nah man the Germans really did roll 180

You can set it however you like really, just don't let the RPM go too high or else you'll risk exceeding max RPM and busting the engine.

@@RequiemsACTL Yeah I guess probably better to set it on coarse pitch, keep the BMEP up - keep the engine warm during the dive. It's already got dedicated dive-brakes so no need to stress the engine like that

There was some reason why the developers modeled it how they did and they usually get things right. I'm not sure of the specifics of this Stuka model though.

Hi Jerry, I understand that the airflow is what actually causes the noise in a dive, but there is a switch modeled in the cockpit (Ju87 D-3) which controls a braking mechanism to prevent the propeller spinning.

The Air Combat Tutorial Library oh sweet i didnt know that was possible in other stukas

early stukas didn't have a brake but after pilots complained enough they added a brake

while you're diving it can act as an airbrake, but when you're flying normally it's just messing with the aerodynamics

Left CTRL+ N

Left ALT + S

I'll see what I can do Old_Guard. I haven't really messed about with the rockets much myself to be honest.

3 years later but rockets were pretty whatever in reality too. For IL-2s the the ROFS-132s are the best and I like to use them against fortifications and large targets such as trains, firing in pairs. Don't expect to get kills with individual weapons, this is WWII, air support is *not* that accurate yet.

Yeah it takes practice.

The technique will work in WT

Check out my "Foolproof Luftwaffe dive bombing" video for the Bf 109

Press the N key

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Probably by mistake, but... who knows? In Guernica they attacked civilians.

@@PauloPereira-jj4jv germans commited the error of bombing civilians, in poland, UK and spain: the spaniards and brits didn't care that much about the war that was going on(the civil war and ww2) but once they started bombing civilians, they sided and fought with the the good guys, since they'd rather die on the frontline than hiding in their houses

Yeah I'd like to try this out in VR one day and see what it feels like

@@RequiemsACTL oh boy VR is fun, but scary. It's like you hear a bang and next thing you know holes in wings and something might be on fire. In terms of stuka dives it can be disorienting at first and then you notice you are literally flying at the ground.

You change the bomb arming time to over 5 seconds if your bombs are not exploding.

@@01Laffey that sounds like a workaround the an actual procedure, but thanks. I moved away from this game long ago. I am now more in to BMS.

@@MititeluRadu It is not a workaround and based on reality. Sub 5 seconds employs the contact fuze, which needs time for it to arm after the release of the aircraft. Over 5 seconds employs the inertial fuze.