Ju 87 Dive Bombing #2 - Using a Contact Altimeter 

Yeah it really is. Definitely took a lot of guts to attack like this! I try and replicate the real techniques where possible :-)

More comfortable too. From flying IRL, noseovers are particularly unpleasant IMO.

Yeah I prefer the inverted approach myself. I covered that way back in 2014 and figured I could show a different technique now we have a contact altimeter

@@RequiemsACTL Ah okay, yeah I was gonna ask about that too.

I appreciate that Juke, the devs of Il-2 have never really worried about needing to do tutorials as I can cover that stuff for the most part. They don't really have the budget for it and they don't pay me to do them. I just try and show techniques that were used in RL where possible without needless time wasting. I like to keep my videos structured as if I was teaching my own flight students in RL

@@RequiemsACTL Why am I not surprised that you're an RL flight instructor? Also yeah they really should sponsor you or something, this is some really great content and you've been doing it since the RoF days.

@@Jukebocks Appreciate that Juke, as long you guys keep enjoying what I make I'm happy :-)

One can only imagine the rush you get diving straight down like that...the most I've done in RL is instructing spin recoveries which was great fun, but after doing 6 hrs of spins a day your brain tends to get a little weird on you LOL

Awesome. What group did he fly with?

​@@blackedelweiss601luftwaffe

Glad to hear it :-)

Yep I can do a Pe-2 one. Shouldn't be a problem.

I see what you did there ;-) Cheers!

Let me know how your results turn out!

haha maybe one day I'll deadhead you somewhere! I'll bet that museum was great...I'm sure I would have learned a lot more there than anything else mate :-)

Haha true. It'd love to give this a try in VR and see how it feels

kg not pounds - so even worse

The Arado is due for some fixes, so I'll make it once they're done. No point making a video on something that will change shortly after ;-)

Yep you nailed it. You need to have an idea of the target elevation, but honestly as long as you don't set it to like 300m or something you'll be fine.

Easy, you fly close to the ground and look at your altimeter :-p

Cheers Jughead, it does autorecover a teeny bit but yeah, unless you want a date with terra firma you need some input lol

​@@RequiemsACTL Hah! This has been doing my head in the last few days. Although the command is 'Dive recovery system: on/off', which suggests you may need to switch it on or off manually, there's no indication in the techchat or the view of the cockpit that anything has happened, so I've been trying missions without doing anything to the controller, which I've mapped to Key 9, then trying another mission pressing Key 9 once, then another mission hitting Key 9 twice to see what happens regarding autorecover and I've not noticed any difference - I hit the ground with a resounding 'thump'. I know this wasn't working in 2018 due to comments on forums at the time but was implemented with update 4.002 in November 2019. Yours is the first comment that I've understood that indicates that although the audio warning works the auto pullout doesn't, or at least only works marginally. I do like the audio warning, I have an unhealthy tendency to get fixated on hitting the target and can leave it too late to pull out, so the audio warning works and is sufficient for me. I've read articles about the front line squadrons switching off the system as planes were delivered, so I think the audio only is a reasonable reflection of what the crews actually experienced. I don't need to worry about blacking out due to high g in the simulator, so don't need the auto recovery to actually save my life. This is a good compromise. Please et me know if I've missed or misinterpreted anything!

Happy to! Just glad we finally got a contact altimeter to actually show the procedure :-)

"Ju 87 Dive bombing # 1" uses the inverted approach -- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n-PMFUgOUvY.html

Thanks, no I haven't ever played WWII online. It's good you've been able to apply this technique elsewhere as that's the whole point of how I made these videos!

You can still use the dive brakes with the inverted method John because the auto entry/recovery system relies only on that right elevator trim input. You would just need a little extra back pressure on your end to counteract what would be a nose up tendency (because you're inverted) when starting downhill. Right now though the dive brakes this automatic system are linked, but maybe in the future it will be made into a modification.

This isn't IL-2 1946 but is the new series. I don't know much about 1946

I think we all make that noise if we forget to equip the siren.

That's sort of covered in the video previous to this one as this one was more about demoing using the contact altimeter so I showed another approach technique

It's not my wife...I think I would get in trouble if I used my wife's picture and it was in an online video LOL

Hahahaha lol

I mean who see the character's wife

Hey I appreciate that! Hopefully you can get something together and join us in the virtual skies :-)

The Air Combat Tutorial Library That would be my dream friend, I’d love to get a job in the aviation career and save up extra money so I could do stuff like that in my free time.

@@gamertardguardian1299 Hey brother! How's that computer coming? If you dont have one yet and you're trying to get a system asap, I would invest in getting a next-generation console. The new xbox series x and ps5 are coming out soon and they are gonna be cheaper than a gaming PC. But you can always wait a little bit longer for that extra cash to put into the PC. Good luck 👍🏼

firebird213-_ oh thanks for the advice man, i do have the original Xbox one but it’s just there isn’t many interesting flight sims, until fs2020 if it comes for it. But yea I’m a teenager w/ no job so it still remains in my dreams.

@@gamertardguardian1299 Same here bro 😂 Imma get one soon! People are looking out for teens like us though! Why not get some money in our pockets for once? I say go at it tbh

Il-2 Great Battles

Yes

*To use*

Already did an example of that here so I didn't want to repeat it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n-PMFUgOUvY.html... I figured I would show a different technique :-)

Haha yeah. I ended up running across that earlier today. Was like, oh great. Ended up joining your discord not that long ago. Looking to find some people to fly with. Most of my experience is with AI. Glad I ran into your videos. Was list when I first started.

@@OuterCrash95 No worries, I tend to put out a scramble when I go fly or stream so if you see it feel free to join up with me :-)

@@RequiemsACTL Good to know. It would be fun to get into the mix.

Yeah you pull back on the stick. However much you need to pull through inverted and get to the 90° dive. You don't need to touch the trim if you don't want to...there is enough elevator authority for you to override it. As you get in the dive you can start using trim if you like.

@@RequiemsACTL cheers mate

Cheers Cameron!

Cool stuff, these were real life techniques so they should work in WT

I’m sure they will, also forgot to say thanks. You were the only video that made sense to me

I don't think it matters which way you do it. You either roll inverted and pull down or nose over to the dive angle. For trim it's personal preference...but you'll be gaining some airspeed in the dive so if you wanted to make things a little easier you could to be nose heavy before diving. This way as you gain airspeed you're already trimmed for it which can make it easier to keep your nose pointed where you want it.

The Air Combat Tutorial Library Thank you so much for a quick reply you surely are the best learning resource for this sim :) One other question if you dont mind is if there is any tutorial for how to bomb targets with soviet fighters and there sights becuse i cant find any guide for it anywhere haha

That's an option for you if you like. Setting the RPM lower will help minimise your acceleration...just remember to increase it again as you climb or else you're not going to climb as efficiently in the recovery

@@RequiemsACTL Understood. Thank you!

You'll have to look up the controls as something must be messed up. You want to look for "bomb bay doors" under the section "Weapons Controls" and the Contact Altimeter controls are at the bottom of the "Plane Controls" section.

@@RequiemsACTL I dont see Contact altimeter, and no section that says ''Plane Controls''

and how the heck do you put on siren

I don't get to fly the Stuka very often so I forgot that button! haha

u must to equip syren before flight on settings plane page

You mean the siren?

Sounds like... victory!

Great to hear! Would love to see an example if you can make a video :-)

The Air Combat Tutorial Library not sure I want to put my skills (or lack thereof) on public display just yet! But watching this and your other videos definitely gave me a leg up. Still working on my reference points and timing when to push into the dive.

Nobody's perfect, so keep up the practice and maybe one day when you're ready to share we'll see it. I've shown debriefs where I get shot down myself :-)

My advice is just dive and when u get to about 1500 metres, drop the bomb and pull out of the dive

That's something I don't know. I've flown WT a few times briefly and got annoyed with how it felt while flying (and the extremely grindy mechanics) so I uninstalled it lol

I highly doubt it. The company that makes WT aren't too concerned with historical accuracy.

There's never a bad time to start up again! :-)

No I just have it set it to combat RPM as it's a constant speed prop, meaning I'm not controlling propeller pitch as you would for a variable pitch propeller (plenty of people refer to changing pitch when really they're adjusting RPM). If the pitch was full fine then that would increase RPM to maximum. I wouldn't set it to the highest RPM as that could lead to overspeeding the prop during the dive when the airplane starts gaining speed. If anything you could reduce RPM if you want to prevent it, but generally speaking you won't have a problem if you keep the RPM in normal range before you dive.