I would suggest after watching the video, Lee is using is off-hand (non-controlled) for 2 things: 1) he brings it toward the opponents grip, making them further tighten their grip, and 2) as he rotates he positions it to use as leverage, basically drawing and dragging the opponents arm into the Tai- Otoshi. This used by many others in various throws ( Seio nagi and Osoto Gari are examples).
Ive did judo for 9 years i belive he pulls his arm in to feel how strong oppone ts grip is and also creates tension so when he explodes outwards it makes the other guy come off balance easier cause there holding so tight
I learned it when my dojo was affilitated with he Fugakukai Branch of Tomiki Aikido headed by Karl Geis sensei R.I.P.. It's called Sumi Taioshi. In Aikido it's done without the leg, but I also study Judo and it can be done without the leg in Judo as well. It's all about kuzushi.
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Absolutely amazing video. I was looking for someone to break down this no grip version. I saw videos of the throw but couldn't quite see what was happening. This was so very well done, explained and with so many examples. I can't say enough about how good this video is. It must have taken SO long to make and edit!!! Bravo
Awesome watched one video and instantly gauged he using their grip as a grip then with his other hand is guiding the rest of the throw. This should be included in all judo training. Maker of video explained it perfectly. Good job on the breakdown
You are right, when you look carefully he does the no hand version, this on slipped from my mind. To add to that someone pulled this move in recent Tashkent GP 2019.
As i can gather, Lee pulls his arm close to his chest so uke's arm gets extended towards him and elbow is also lower than his own chest meaning that the Luke's wrist/hand is slightly lower (between hip and ribs). This allows his to use his left arm/forearm to attack the crook of uses arm making it bend and distance between both bodies becomes much shorter. Also he gets to use his whole body as leverage opposed to using his shoulder, if the arm was to be extended Not sure if the written description explains it well
Pulling in your arm would create more momentum (less force required), as you bring the 'gripping point' closer to your point of gravity and center of rotation. Also, the opponent would likely be more off balance. In the mean time, like stated in another comment, it would give you time too feel up the opponents grip and reaction. But perhaps most important, it would conceil your own action/intention more, so you can execute the Tai Otoshi as late as posiible, until the moment where there is no opposition possible. edit: forgot to mention, that the movement alone would also be assessed by the opponent as being something of a normal reaction, like you're protecting your weak or attacked spot by pulling in your arm.
I wonder if part of the pull inward is to keep uke thinking you're trying to grip break? I think you are right about it being a way to wrap the rotation tighter and get more kuzushi forward, but I think it could be psychological too.
Great video, still watching it years later. Can you do one about the uchimata without the tsurite, in which tori uses Ike’s strong grip on his arm to draw him towards uchimata? Nagase vs Valois-Fortier in Montreal is a great example!
@@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486 Just to be clear when I commented I'd watched about 4 minutes of this video so it's not a "no grip tai otoshi" as I think I jumped the gun? Apologies again. It's hard to see from the angle, however his whip, timing, reaping with the blocking leg, use of bodyweight etc is still exceptional. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NKYBA5iM6HM.html
@[L A Y L A]- Go To My ChanneI! L!VE NOW yeah I know I've been doing judo myself for 21years now, my question was a joke about his video posting schedule that was in desync from my training schedule^^
The reason why tori needs to pull arm close to his chest is to minimize energy when he turns and makes the throw. if you dont do this imagine torii has an extended arm and tries to throw nage, too much energy is expended to make the throw making the throw less likely to happen. .
Looks like he has a grip, but I see your point he used uke’s grip, reminds me of one of my judo Sensei telling me, don’t fight for grip throw uke with what he gives you, he was one of first Caucasian to make black belt at the KODOKAN, was an MP fitting Vietnamese war and had opportunity to learn there
With hate and racism on the increase and in schools let your students miss class and learn martial arts it's better than using a gun never start a fight or provoke anger.have fun it's enjoyable to win but if you get angry.no need in figjting.you already lost.pain is just another feeling do not be afraid of pain .
Never fight your opponent face to face surely you will lose.get behind always from behind put your arms underneath your opponent wrap route fingers around his head interlock your fingers and swing him t he floor.you can get him in a full Nelson by lifting up of his head and torso if grounded get in a 180%hold with your grasp still in place only reach both fingers into his eye sockets and pull out his eyes.only if you are out of breath.if you must throw punches from face to face aim for the throat beware of hitting his head the small fingers in your hand are easy to break.samurai police kung fu.
