Watching this during the red flag of the 2022 Japanese GP. Absolutely furious that a recovery vehicle was on track whilst cars were still making their way to the pits. Never thought anything like this could have the possibility of happening again. Rest in Peace Jules...
@@haydenword368 Yeah ridiculous stuff. I understand he was speeding during red flag conditions, but that doesn't excuse the tractor being on the track already..
@@mattiaromeo9546 but the conditions were way different back in monza, it was bone dry and everyone could see the tractor, this however the drivers couldnt see barely 5 feet in front of them and a simple aquaplane could have led Pierre to slide right into that tractor, to me it is neglect of drivers safety
Here after Grosjean miracle. Jules death led to Grosjean's survival today , halo talks has started after this terrible accident. Second life saved after Charles in Spa. I really often think about you Jules, we miss you. RIP
@@Martin-dx7ik if I can remember correctly Fernandos car went over his head and if it wasn’t for the halo the wheel would’ve made contact with his head
I m just saying they could have thought about the tractors they use on the track too. The crane tractor Seems to be measured just the way that it is a killiing machine for a driver hitting it, the bottom of it is just the height where drivers head are.
Romain just told on French TV Jules saved his life and he will have a eternal life debt to him He also just told halo saved his life and he admitted he was wrong to be one of the fiercest opponent to halo
It's crazy to think you can have someone agree with you when you display a level of absolute ignorance to the given situation. Flags were correct. Please come back when you can tell me differently. In short, you can't.... Think about it, eventually, it'll occur to you that you're wrong.
@@trackNtraction The section where the green flag was being waved, what hazard was there??? Flag marshal did as per what their training prescribed. The sector being waved yellow, there was marshals and a tractor in and clear hazards. The flag marshal did as per what they were trained to do. By Right here right now saying what they have in this comment, they show an amateurish level of understanding to the rules. I'd suggest reading up because you won't always have someone like me who knows the score telling you you look foolish by agreeing with them. You've finished seeing what i've said, now grab the rule book.
@@getupstairstobed I'm going to edit my comment above, as I understood bit more about sector flags now, but not from your comment. " I'd suggest reading up because you won't always have someone like me who knows the score telling you you look foolish by agreeing with them. "- quote . knowledge is power and i respect that you have that knowledge, but do not mix that with ego. your comment would have been the nicest reply if it's said in a modest way :) human nature is to accept mistakes, learn from it and move on. have a good day
I have never seen this crash until today. You can just tell that he wouldn't survive that. It probably felt like hitting concrete after jumping off a skyscraper. Rest in peace.
@@t49_hornet16 not that it would have made any difference in this crash. The issue was allowing racing to continue while a tractor was against the safety barriers. The halo is great, don't get me wrong. But even in a perfectly armored sphere, the decelerative forces were very likely enough to turn anyone's organs into mush.
@@theKashConnoisseur I mean it would definitely have saved him. Also definitely hospitalised him, but he would have been still with us today if the halo had existed
Martin predicted this... Honestly i blame the FIA for this. There was a very close call a while back with a very similar situation, but they didn't act on it
he knows it too well, he almost had the exact same fate as bianchi literally on the same corner 20 years before. he almost ended below one of those thing but "luckily" only injured a marshal.
@@JackTheripper911 He might be talking about Japan 1994 - Morbidelli/Brundle Crash. Almost the exact same crash A safety marshall got hit by Brundle and thankfully survived. Brundle referred back to that race during the commentary of this race.
Coming here after the bahrain gp just happy that the halo was introduced. Coming here after the bahrain gp just happy that the halo was introduced. Edit Ignore the ones who type harsh messages from the comfort of their home. Maybe one day when their life is at risk they will know.
@@PedroOliveira-bm4lf I agree that impact was truly awful, and unlucky as well. He must have died on impact at that speed. Halo would have been destroyed.
Not exactly proud to be disagreeing considering the video content but I am sure the Halo idea was born from Massa having his skull fractured due to a spring on the track in Hungary 2009. Definitely saved Grosjeans life.
@@lennycook206 I knew most of that, but didn't know they already thought about it in 2011. I also knew about Henry's crash. Anyway thanks for the explanation dude
@@lennycook206 thanks Lenny, I too am an avid fan of some 50 years now and really get a bit annoyed when people post without knowing the history of such matters 👍
The halo saved grosjeans life, saved verstappens at Silverstone and Hamiltons at Monza and not to forget leclerc at Spa but there are many more instances of a curbed piece of titanium saving lives and if it was implomented from the early days of F1 it would have saved man many many more including Jules
At conditions like that it should have been no brainer to bring SC to track instead of of double waved yellows. Ofc ever since even on dry conditions when there is a tractor on track we have had atleast virtual SC, but ofc that wont bring Bianchi back. Without a doubt he would have been Ferrari's next driver and most likely he and Leclerc would be team-mates now had he not died. I might be a Kimi fan but man I would have rather seen Bianchi alive and replacing Kimi earlier, than ever seen this happening.... And I mean the writing was on the wall, there had been several close-calls like this before especially in wet conditions. Brazil 2003 and Nurburing 2007 especially come into mind but ofc nothing was done until some one was killed.
conditions were still far better at the time of Jules crash then at the start and a safety car would prevent the F1 cars from displacing the water on track which makes a restart even behind the safety car equally or more dangerous then carrying on at race speeds. I thought the same thing when I watched the race but since a majority of the grid was still moving at race pace without losing time to changing conditions it wasn't an entirely senseless decision to clear the track under double waved yellows. Safety is an ever evolving practice and as Martin Brundle likes to say himself, the ultimate safety would be just staying home, lets go racing.
@@KiLLJoYRU-vid Oh so have squishy marshals in the incident zone with the assistance of a tractor that is needed to carry barriers substantial enough to withstand an impact just so a car that is not part of the track safety certificate can now act as a barrier itself?? Totally not the way it works
1:13 9 months later and a year later bianchi then died from his injuries aged 25 and was the third f1 driver to die after Roland ratzenburger and Ayrton Senna in imola in 1994 exactly 11 years apart
How have they learnt nothing from the accident? Any time a car is being recovered or an incident occurs, a yellow flag and safety car is deployed pretty much 90% of the time, sometimes a virtual safety car
the halo stops flying debree liek tires, part of car, nothing can save you if u hit a imovable object that weight many tons at over 100mps also the entire car was crushed under the wehicle no safety imrovement can save you from a crash like that, the g force alone would be fatal 100%, the only way to be saved from this type of crash is to not have it ocurr at all, this is why they have red flag instantly if a car need to be recovered with a vehicle due to this avoidable incident, they should done this long time ago not after JB death. tragic cause it was so easily avoidble.
who knows what Jules experienced in that instant, what he saw, what he thought, if he realized what was going to happen to him or if he heard the rescuers and the blow of the crash, what he thought unfortunately we will not know never
I distinctly remember Vettel and the other drivers complaining on the radio over the conditions and asking for the race to be stopped. The race director didn't listen. RIP Jules.
Assuming the minimal (current) weight of an F1 car at 798 Kg and the speed to be at 78 MPH (34.8 mps), Bianchi hit that loader with around 483,000 joules (356,000 ft lbs) of potential kinetic energy. This is roughly equivalent to the energy released by detonating 115 grams of TNT.
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial When doing scientific calculations, even Americans use metric. ;) Conversationally speaking, I think a hand grenade might be a little more powerful than 115g TNT. RDX, which is what they typically fill grenades with, is about 1.5x more powerful than TNT. If only Google would tell me how much RDX goes into a hand grenade.... oops now I'm on a list lol.
Bad memories came back about Jules watching the GP today. Insane that something stupid like this could happen again.. Gasly's response was totally on point
if you pause and go frame by frame, you can see his helmet slam the loader and get forced back and downward in an instant...and you can even make out his 2014 liverys silver details...poor guy, was only 25 years old. His 76mph may not seem like a lot, until you see the car lift the entire solid steel safety equipment vehicle up and to the side AND when you hear that wreck equated to 254g according to the FIAs calculations, or the same as dropping a car with no crumple zone from 157ft on solid concrete
Exactly. My thoughts are with his family but with most of these fatal accidents, like this one, it’s clearly driver’s fault. How could he completely bottle curve like that or Grosjean’s crazy move in Bahrain.
Also if Bianchi had lifted his foot off the gas pedal in the double yellow sector, he would have made the corner without incident to begin with. Instead he was speeding through the sector quite recklessly.
In the official report, FIA blamed Bianchi for the accident. FIA had done everything in their reach not to assume their mistakes. His family filed a lawsuit against them. F1 is a disgusting place.
Definitely. There was absolutely no reason not to call a safety car with the recovery vehicle and the wet conditions. Ericsson spun on the formation lap and sutil said that a safety car should've been called
What's disgusting is you making comment on things you don't you the circumstances of. I don't but i'm not calling something disgusting. Just because someone launches a lawsuit, doesn't mean the other party has done something wrong. It's just like you deluding yourself the FIA made mistakes. The FIA acted what they deemed to be correct at the time, Jules Bianchi agreed to these conditions after he attended drivers briefing and allowed someone to strap him into an MR03 and drive in that GP.
@@getupstairstobed They should have called the safety car. It was a clear mistake. An that is why I am criticizing them. I made just one mistake: F1 was in fault, not the regulatory institution (FIA). They made the mistake and did not assume. Pay attention on what you are saying. F1 has a lot of scandals in all of its history. This is no secret to anyone. Crashgate; spy scandal over Ferrari; Racing Point cloned a Mercedes; etc. There is no point on defending them. Maybe you working for them. The engineer responsible for the crashgate is technical director of F1. Just an example.
I thought of you again today Jules. I come back here from time to time to see this terrible accident. Now I wonder what would have happened if it hadn't been for that terrible accident, now that Ferrari is good again. You're already up there with the other champions. We'll never forget you. #JB17
You might specaulate that, and you may not even be wrong, but you will never know. He could have ended nose first in the barrier and have severe spinal injuries. You would never know. And the marshells with the truck are not at fault here, the stupid green flag that came oit was the cause
@@nfsrival1499 You are right. We really don't know what was going to happen. But, it is inevitable thinking in posibles scenarios in which he had been well after crashing. Every time when we have an accident or something difficult, we ask ourselves "what if ...?".
Thankyou Jules, (unfortunately) because of you many people have and will now live beautiful full lives thanks to your misfortune, you will never be forgotten. See you in the next life ❤️
I haven't seen the footage till now. I though it was just a crash into the side of the tractor(which is still bad). But after seeing how it litteraly moved the whole machine I got goosebumps and started crying
This is the only real footage of it...as taken by a spectator. This also justified the warning needed to view this video (doesn't violate the TOS as it's newsworthy, but just YIKES).
Commercial pressures. Much like in Fuji 1976, they got away with it back then but could have easily ended the same. And "yeah but commercial interests should never endanger or end someones life". Well it does, there's some greedy people more concerned about their financial worth than people's welfare, happens all the time. I blame and can't blame Ecclestone for his part. I almost had my life ended for the same heartless greed in 2007. I don't blame that person, i don't forgive them but i also can see it from their perspective. Just the way of the world.
@@anotherbigfootwithinternet2147 I think they mean they've just seen the actual footage which shows them "exactly how the crash happened." I don't think CBL is privy to any knowledge more than what the public are unless you can confirm otherwise CBL?
I remember watching this live on TV the camera was literally on Jules as he started aquaplaning an then we saw him go off track an then the camera immediately cut away... this race should of never gone on the way it did. RIP Jules
Oggi è l'11 ottobre del 2022, anni dopo questo tragico episodio, la Fia ancora permette questa roba. Pochi giorni fa Gasly poteva fare una fine simile per colpa di gente incompetente ai piani alti che non sa minimamente il rischio che si corre in questa situazione. Speriamo cambi qualcosa. Riposa in pace Jules, mi dispiace non aver mai visto una tua gara❤️
When you think that this terrible accident causing Jules Bianchi's death led to the halo that probably saved Charles Leclerc, his godson, from death at SPA in 2018... No words just, destiny is both terrible and hauntingly beautiful
You would've thought the FIA learnt from recovery vehicles on track and yet 8 years later, the Alpha Tauri almost met the same fate at the exact same track in the exact same conditions. Disgusting is all I can say. Rest in peace Jules, you will never be forgotten.
What is shocking to me is they still decide to host the japanese gp in the worst time of the year, in the monsoon season, so when it rains in japan it pours and is dangerous for drivers especially at a high speed ciruct like suzuka. I don't understand why they don't have cranes.
its bewildering how events come together, you can see that tractor backing up inch by inch, if only they didn't back up, if only 10 seconds later the crash happened he would have missed it...if if if..so sad
And again today GAS was almost killed. He might have been speeding but the reds looked yellow at that distance. His engineer had to have told him red flag
Watching this now after the Gasly controversy at Japan, mad how this shit stikl could’ve happened depending on Gasly’s position . FIA and F1 need to learn
7 years on and I've often questioned if the Halo would have saved Jules due to how the accident happened. But after seeing how it saved Romain I think there might have been a better chance. Rest peacefully Jules, your legacy will never be forgotten.
@@marcelsupranowicz1611 yes, he hit his head while the car went full speed under the crane and he had severe brain damage and never regained consciousness
Came to see this after the 2022 Japanese grand prix incident involving Gasly. Now, i know why drivers were so furious after the incident involving the recovery vehicle. They have every right to do so. Thankfully, we did not see a repeat of the same incident in 2022. RIP Jules.
I'm not sure about that, a machine weighing several tonnes and also carrying another car is a whole different thing compared to a thin, very lightweight barrier.
