Julia Hartley-Brewer Confronts Campaigner Who Says Late Abortions Should Be "Decriminalised" 

It was murder. She could have had the baby adopted, this woman sees nothing wrong with infanticide.

Its a personal decision 5 minutes before being born?! This woman is a broken human being. A monster 😮

She kilked a viable baby she fully deserves to be in prison for it

Some of these people are calling for abortion right up until the day of birth……that is literally psychopathic.

It's shocking how little regard she has for the baby that was murdered.

This child was murdered. The baby has a right too. Abortion at this stage is evil.

Jane starling is one sick woman.

Yes murder should be illegal

It's not "healthcare" at that late a date, it's horrendous and its murder, she should've got a much longer sentence. What she did is despicable.

Mind numbing repetition of the slogan, “abortion is health care.” A facile and disturbing lack of understanding. This is straight out of Orwell.

I felt physically sick when this campaigner spoke . Whilst the scientific world moves forward at such apace , laws surrounding abortion need to lower the window for abortion not lengthen it

Thank you for putting this woman on, so we could see her laughing and smiling and being so flippant about the murder of a baby, and then PRETEND she was concerned about the other children.

At 8 months pregnant, a child can be born prematurely and survive. She should have been convicted of murder and given 25 years. Yet again, the law is different for women compared to men, why do we hold women at a lower level of responsibility than men? You can bet your life that if a man kicked a 8 month pregnant woman in the stomach and she lost the baby, he would not see daylight again.

These people think a baby isn’t a living being until the very second it leaves the mother. So until that last second it can still be terminated. That’s how twisted they are.

The thing about a late abortion is that the woman has to deliver the baby anyway so better to deliver the child. She killed this child because it represented an inconvenience. There is an agreed limit. Everyone knows the limit. At some point the child rights have to kick in. It wasn't a desperate situation, the judge was right.

Sick SICK woman, she should be banned from every having children ironically.

There's no excuse to murder an unborn child!!

What an evil woman trying to pretend she isn’t

This is mental! How can anyone kill an 8 month old child? And how can anyone defend it? This is bonkers

A women saying abortion is health care blows me away.... 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

The reality of abortion laws anywhere - one woman's treasured baby is another woman's trash, and the woman gets to select treasure or trash. Pure evil.

"Abortion is health care", the young woman says. Well, it is not "health care" for the child. It is murder. Some people, the ones that do not have a soul, believe it is ok until you have to use an icepick, like on a baby seal, to get rid of that unwanted child. I have nothing but contempt for these soul-less creatures.

If this woman had given birth to this child, and then killed it, everyone would be outraged by such an evil act. But because she killed it whilst it was still inside her womb, that's not an outrage. How twisted can we get?

Have these people never heard of contraception ffs

Horrid, Psycho woman 🤡 Poor Julia, sharing her own heart breaking story about her own miscarriages and her personal knowledge of how viable an 8 month baby would be and the psycho’woman’s response is “It’s health care” 🤮 no it’s INFANTICIDE - baby murder.

Nothing after 12 weeks Except medical emergency

Janey started her sentences repeatedly with 'So...' Pretty obvious she regards her point of view as the only one that's important. Desperately sorry for the unborn child.It's horrific!

My baby was born at less than the gestation of this poor baby and my son is now 28 with a child of his own!!! Think about that!!! That not abortion, that’s murder!!!!! Hers a thought, stop using abortion as a contraceptive!!! This person speaking disgusts me!!!

Murder = health care 😂😂😂😂world gets more mental every day

The way she trots out that one in three statistic like it's a sign of a normal society 🤯

Pretty sure 'murder' was a 'Victorian law' too...

If you go to jail for murdering a 1 day old baby you should go to jail for murdering a viable unborn baby. Women not wanting to be inconvenienced shouldn’t supersede a baby’s right to live.

Julia, please, please , please, never give up your job!!! Wish more journalists were as direct and transparent as you!!

Murder is murder.....end of story. The law has to protect the innocent children who are being slaughtered. There are just no words!

8 months is murder

At eight months? It's murder. 😢 not Healthcare. Horrifying. The woman must face some manner of punitive consequences. I'm not sure it should be prison.

She deserves prison.. thats not healthcare...what a vile young woman!! 😭🤢🤬

She says it’s a personal decision to abort your baby 5 mins before it was due to be born?! What is the world coming to where she thinks this is a reasonable opinion to state and with a smile on her face too!?

I have the feeling Janey Starling would be better off moving to California where abortions right up to the moment before birth are legal! That is exactly what she's advocating.

If you don't realise you don't want to be pregnant for 24 weeks then you missed your chance. Frankly 6 months of being happy with the situation. I was born at about 33 weeks, that's only 9 weeks after this and over a month BEFORE the age of her unborn child. It was a fully formed human being and she killed it. This woman has clearly never given birth and held her own baby in her arms. Nobody who has loved a child (or anyone who isn't a sociopath) could say that it is OK to kill a child 5 minutes before it would be born.

Ending a human life is not healthcare. Certainly the health of the unborn human isn't the focus by that term, which is apparent from the very selective language used to frame what is actually occurring.

“Abortion is health care” This is where we have got to. An “old law” as an argument against a law is not an argument.

Omg that woman is literally advocating murder. 5 minutes before Labour? “Yes, that’s fundamentally my position”. An absolute psychopath!

That woman is pure evil

This young naive woman just has a slogan co-opted from American colleges and has put no further thought into her position.

If that lady is advocating for murdering an unborn child, then maybe she needs a home visit for a polite chat.

Health care is the new term that this young women is repeating without thinking. She has been completely overtaken by ideology not any knowledge of 'health care' as she calls it. And does she not realise that health care is indeed covered by laws, ethics and so forth. She has no idea what she is talking about and no capacity for reflection.

I think it is the sign of a great interviewer and journalist that Julia Hartley-Brewer, herself pro-choice, pressed that hard regarding the morality of a late-term abortion. I believe that any point after fertilization and the emergence of unique DNA is an arbitrary point at which to start defending an unborn life but late-term abortions are particularly cruel given the baby's undeniable capacity to feel pain.

Calling the murder of a child 'Health Care' is a sematic inversion, a contradiction of truth. The sort of thing that you would find in Orwell's 1984. What you would expect from a society which has lost it morality.

The interviewee was sugar sweet and oh so rational … it really concealed the narcissistic psychopathy behind her dead eyes.

So when exactly does this woman think it’s ok to kill your unborn child? At any point at all??

Anyone who can kill an eight month old baby is, at best, a coldhearted psychpath or just an evil sadist

A personal decision 5 minutes before the child is born ? Wow unbelievable

How can anyone think this is ok. It is utter wickedness 😢

the woman is a crank.... she couldnt answer the question ... and wanted to avoid talking about a viable baby 8 months old

This young woman with no child is a psychopath in a true meaning of the word. In case she becomes pregnant (doesn't seem likely she has a maternal instinct or has been brainwashed) children's services need to keep a close eye on her.

A live stream of a late term abortion ultrasound, with a close up of the babies face as it's being killed may help this young woman. Why are we arguing what it is when the technology exists to remove all doubt.

She really struggled to say that our loud. It always sounds crazier than it does in your head, and man she sounded crazy.

This lady should absolutely be in prison for killing her baby

To experince a human life wriggling around and growing inside you is one of the biggest privileges a women can ever experience. How can anyone be so detached from that bond? Shocking 😢

The fact that we are as a society asking the question about if killing children is not okay or not, but if it should be legal speaks volumes about how far we have not come. We dress better and got vehicles that the cave men and woman didn't but that's about where the differences stop.

My first baby was born at eight months. Apparently it is more dangerous than seven moths. He was sooo tiny and sooo precious to us especially when he had four respiratory infections in his first seven months of life. He turn’s forty seven this year and is still precious. I will never understand anyone aborting a gift from God!

How dare she try to justify murdering an infant with her sweeping generalisations regarding the context and then she tries to play the victim card by saying that criminal is separated from her 3 other children. These monsters deserve to be in prison.

Why should it be “healthcare” right up to the moment of birth but criminal law immediately afterwards?

This is the expression of an idea which has morphed into a feeling , jettisoning reason. If you can make someone believe in absurdities you can make them commit atrocities.

At 33 weeks She had to give birth to a stillborn baby. Why not give birth to a live baby who could have been adopted into a loving family. She deserves to be in prison.

I cant help feeling that oneday this lady (speaking to Julia) will look back upon this conversation and both regret and wish that she had not spoken so heartlessly..

If this woman who killed her child had of been attacked and lost the baby because of that, the attacker would have been sentenced for killing that child. The same bunch of apologists would have been screaming from the rooftops for a longer sentence for the attacker, not leniency. Their hypocrisy knows no limits.

My eldest daughter was premature and delivered at 35 weeks. She was 5.5 lbs and 20" long. She had RDS and spent some time in an incubator. Apart from that she was perfect. She will be 42 at the end of the month and is the mother of a 10-year old herself. The idea that someone thinks it's ok to murder - because that's what it is; she deliberately deceived a nurse to get the meds to destroy her daughter - a fully formed child and not pay any consequences for it is shocking! There's not enough accountability these days but far too much sense of entitlement. Too many people have the "Oh well" attitude; she deceived both the men she was involved with she's failed her children and she's destroyed a baby's life because she's thoroughly dishonest with herself as well as everyone around her. She's left a trail of destruction in her wake - and all because she couldn't make up her mind! She's not just a disgrace to herself and family but she's done a disservice to every woman if childbearing age now and in the future because her selfishness just gives another string to the bow of people who want to see abortion rescinded because if women aren't going to follow the law then the law will have to change to protect the unborn and that will have dire consequences for everyone!

It’s bizarre that her argument is that’s it’s just “healthcare” and that it’s all fine. There’s no argument that it’s just healthcare. She wanted people to hear that and think “ah, that’s okay then” and move on to the next thing.

This woman is completely out of touch with reality, and her smile comes across as disconnected and psychopathic. Thank you for being so reasonable about this issue too, Julia! I very much agree with you. I think we can debate, as a society, for exactly how long it makes sense to permit abortions. And if there should be exceptions, with whatever deadline we've set. But there has to be a limit! It certainly can't be allowed in the 8th or 9th month! This woman sounds like she's just reciting mantras, without having taken in the consequence of what she is saying. I see myself as a feminist, too. Which is part of why I think abortion rights are important. But.. not to the point where we are talking about a viable, almost fully grown baby! The extremists on BOTH side of this issue get it wrong! It is not: "it's either a baby IMMEDIATELY, or it's an insignificant fetus RIGHT up until the moment it leaves the womb." It is a lump of cells, that becomes a fetus, that gradually, over time, becomes a baby! And there is no ONE set moment where that happens! Which is exactly what makes this issue so tricky! But.. leave it to both religious conservatives AND utter lunatics without a conscience, such as this woman, not to get that! Aborting a fully viable baby in the 8th month..? Is indeed MURDER! If you're against infanticide..? Why would you not also be against that? And if you're a feminist..? Why wouldn't your feminism also include that baby, if it's a girl? (Not that boys don't matter. But.. they're not what feminism is about.) I don't believe in the kind of "feminism" that exempts women from ALL responsibility, and says we should be able to make COMPLETELY immoral choices, and if we're not, that's just sexism, or "oppression"! It's not oppression! It's being held accountable, in ways that bloody damn should be expected of any mature adult! Got pregnant by accident..? Then you've got a certain time window to have an abortion, if you don't want it! That time window should be reasonable, so that any woman has ample time to figure it out, and take that action if she deems it necessary! But if you choose NOT to abort before then..? You have made a choice, and choices have CONSEQUENCES! There is absolutely NO goddamn reason why you should be able to change your mind, and kill a baby during month 8, due to some selfish whim! This isn't feminism. It is EXTREME narcissism! Immoral, unconscionable, MURDEROUS narcissism! This woman isn't right in the head, and she is obviously missing a moral compass. But she uses feminism to justify it. Which is extremely harmful to us ALL! And to the case of actual, REASONABLE abortion rights, that are not about murdering fully viable babies! Yikes. :/

Unbelievable,, we’re living in bad times ,,, no thought for the baby disgusting woman 🤬

Excellent interview, not letting the interviewee off the hook with stock 'its healthcare' responses. So often the rights of the killed baby are conveniently ignored or santized as an 'aborted fetus'

We have the right rules for abortion in the uk. This woman killed a viable child because she couldnt be bothered to look after it. She killed a child who could have made a childless couple happy, who may have solved cancer, who could have prevented someone going unloved. Deserves years in jail. We do not do deterants well enough in this country.

As a health care professional, there is no medical reason to terminate a viable child. That's why she did it by herself

Two of my nieces were born within their seventh month gestation another in the early eighth. They were fully formed babies. Small and quite frail, but babies. They are now stunning young women. This girl seems very cosseted.

Whilst I support a woman's right to choose, Janey Starling is condoning the murder of babies ! How disgusting and terrifying is that ? This was premeditated murder and I would have locked that woman up for much longer. She had to give birth to that baby anyway so why did she feel that murder was the answer ? Would we seriously deem her as a fit mother ? As soon as that baby is viable, no abortions should be legal unless the mother's life is at risk or the baby has serious medical conditions !!! Poor, poor baby. RIP little one 😪

Contrast this woman's view with the anguish of the parents of two students murdered in Nottingham. Strictly limited abortion should be permissible on defined health grounds, of the unborn infant and the mother in a the short time permitted now. To kill as a lifestyle choice is morally reprehensible.

reality against an excuse for murder....this lady clearly know what is right but refuses to answer honestly....many people are so lost nowadays...and was driven by forces of evil in guise of being good just and kind..GOD BLESS US ALL!! Sad times......

Healthcare - the maintaining and restoration of health by the treatment and prevention of disease especially by trained and licensed professionals (as in medicine, dentistry, clinical psychology, and public health) Abortion is not restoring health.

These people are sick! They're essentially killing children and we sit here debating with them instead of seriously punishing them 🙄

Absolving oneself of responsibility by killing their own child. And it’s not a crime.

1. Why did she wait so long, she could have had a legal one in time. 2. She could have had it adopted Janey is psychopathic, and she is smirking while she talks about infanticide

Why was she not or her partner not on contraception? The child did not just die. The child was murdered. Abortion was never meant to be late term contraception, to deal with extremely poor decision making.

Murder is murder. Ending a human life at any stage is murder.

Shouldn't the doctor that performed the abortion be charged as well?

Changed? No. In fact we are seeing more babies live at even earlier premature births

Wow just wow 😢

This woman arguing for killing children shouldn’t be given air time.

This woman should be in JAIL with the woman who killed her baby....FACTS

this woman absolutely sh*t me up. When she said 'Abortion is healthcare'. Everyone should have a platform to say their opinion, but It's truly terrifying people like this are given a platform.

This woman needs her lap top taken away and to spend a day in a clinic seeing what late stage abortion looks like and what effect it has on people.

She's disgusting. 28 months in prison for killing your unborn child is a disgrace!

Can anyone explain to me why the location of a baby (whether inside or outside the womb) is the detemining factor as to whether he/she has a right to life? Even Julia Hartley-Brewer, with whom I normally agree, said she doesn't feel the woman should be in prison. But if the baby had been killed on the outside of the womb she would most certainly have a different view. If anyone can help me see the logic here please enlighten me, because I am at a complete loss right now.

What a sickening point of view.

Geezus! It's just health care. This woman is pure evil! Most babies are born at 9 months. I used to attend the hospital to watch my now 16 yr old daughter move around. Sadly, there are plenty of women who think it's their body can they can do what they choose. It's not your body. It's another body inside you! Society is just sex mad! They can't control their urges and use abortion as a contraceptive.

Not healthcare for the baby. Quite the opposite.

How traumatic would it be for the siblings to realize that mommy killed one of the kids because it was inconvenient? I think it would be a pretty friggin big deal.

When I was a little boy I could remember being in the womb. She didn’t have to do that. She could have given the baby to a family that can’t have kids.

Ideologues no life behind the eyes..