You be surprise how much those booolets cost in Canada at least $2.00 per shot ( Canadian ) for cheap ammo, for rimfire 22LR on sale for $34.00 Canadian and that is Federal Bulk in a 325 Rd box. a Bring your own Bottles of 250 RDS of 22 WMR , it was 124.99 Can.$ at Cabelas , ( Bass Pro ) a box of 100 primers is $17.00 ....... lots of sadness in Canada Folks , many of us Pray ....
I get it. You test a lot of stuff I would not have considered. I'm injured, uninsured and out of work, but I have a lot of things I don't think, or haven't seen you try. I could send a package. Have you ever tested 6.5 Grendel? My favorite AR caliber and I have a stockpile of various loads
That rifle is money. Love the setting at the beginning of the video with the old table with the gun sitting on it and the barn in the background. Classic TN country look right there!
I shoot the 55 grain Hornady Superformance CX monolithic bullets from my Ruger American Gen 2 Ranch in 5.56. She is AWESOME with my Gemtech Tracker can on the end. Also zero recoil and pretty quiet. Can keep within 1 MOA all day long off the bench. Practical field accuracy is prolly 2 MOA in hunting/field conditions which is still good when actively hunting game.
Heck yeah all of those are substantially better than the first test load that you did in your previous video. I’m happy that they worked out well for you.
We always need to remember that with any new firearm, there is usually a rigorous testing/break in period in finding the best ammunition it likes. I’ve rarely purchased a new firearm and found it to be perfectly happy with anything I feed through it. Practice and testing will almost always result in finding the most accurate ammunition a firearm is compatible with!
This guy has admitted he has no patience for Common Sense (to us) things like that. Prefers to label a firearm "junk" right up front instead. I don't knwo why he keeps buying guns -- apparently for absolutely no reason at all -- and with no research done on them whatsoever. It's as though he operates on Impulse Buy only, nothing more. What thinking person does that? Whatever, he buys more "junk" guns than anyone I know. Poetic Justice well deserved. -- BR
Usually for competition shooting 100 to 200 rounds a barrel does its best. Here he is using for hunting purposes and this system has been used for year's. While not a .2 or .3 group, this has worked for average hunter's for year's. We are also looking at a factory rifle under 1000 dollar's, when barrels alone for group's mentioned above are usually from barrels close to that amount. Not to mention the action, trigger, stock, bipod etc. Looking at .5 group's to .8 from this set up is very respectful and shows his abilities. For hunting even small predators this is adequate. All in all this is his channel with his methods and experience. I have no dog in the fight but I like watching. If I didn't I could simply go to another channel.
Most barrels, even those polished from the factory, need some rounds run down them to get "seasoned" so to speak. Looks like with good groups from 55 to 75 grains all it needed was some range time to settle in. My coyote gun is a Ruger AR 5.56 with a 1-8 twist barrel and I settled on the 64 grain Winchester Deer Season XP ammo as it really seems to like it, even though it shoots 55 grainers just fine.
I've found that my Ruger american predator 7mm-08 and 6.5 needed lots of ammo through them to tighten up compared to other rifles out of the box. Learned that with the 6.5, bought 4 boxes of cheap 7mm-08 to break in with. Both are very accurate rifles now.
This is a step in the right direction with the Gen II Ranch 5.56! Thanks for the update. It is not surprising the 69Gr MK’s tightened up. The 77Gr MK’s shoot lights out in my 1:8 twist .223 Rem 700. Really enjoy this content.
Good on you for trying some more rounds with heavier bullets. That rifle could probably be a solid sub .5 Moa with some hand loads. Hit the like button 👍
It’s not bullet weight, 55 grain is well within what will stabilize in a 1 in 8. The Remington UMC he used last time is just garbage target ammunition, I’ve used it in a variety of firearms and 2-3 moa is the best I’ve gotten even from weapons that shoot half moa or better normally.
@@jaydunbar7538 you cant make 2moa loaded ammo shoot 1moa, which is your typical bulk ammo loading, just personal experience ive found 62s shoot better than 55s., i prefer 77 otms.
@@tw1st3dw1ll7 because most of the 55s you find are bulk target ammunition, throw some 55 grain v max in it and you will see good results. I have multiple 1 in 8 rifles, grain weight is not an issue so long as the bullet and loading is consistent.
I have multiple 1/8 twist rifles in 5.56. Each prefer different weights and factory loads than the others. Bare minimum I have to buy 2 different factory rounds for them all to be happy. Not 1 factory round has acceptable performance out of all of them. I literally have to mark the cans so I can remember which is for which.. Buying bullots is a pain in the rear, but part of the fun I guess.. Rifles are like women. No 2 alike and can be temperamental.. lol
75gr was my guess. Looks like it preferred those lengths and velocities. Will need to chronograph and pull bullets from them. Both the Remington 69gr box and the Hornady Black 75 gr looked like good choices with the cold bore, and ammo switch. Need to do more than 3 round samples of each.
The Hornaday 75gr if you shoot one for a fouler, then shoot for group's. Just an idea. I've seen it make a difference. Either way WTW you have an excellent show with good info. Been watching for a few year's now and always good stuff. Thanks for the time, money and effort you put into these video's. Nice work! Keep'em coming!
No doubt here. I’m sure someone has a rifle that slings UMC well, it isn’t any of mine tho..lol. Best groups I’ve had with UMC is out of my Sig and that was 1 3/4 which is ok enough for training, for me anyway..
a.)I'm a firm believer in "fouling shots".Here I obrserved,that the first shot,after each change, grouped differently,while No.2 and No.3 grouped together.-Shot at least two groups.-b.)I wonder,if this rifles groups could be improved by reloads tailored to this rifle???🤔
Fouling shots along with more one or more 5-round groups would really tell us more than the channels says it can provide based on cost of ammo. I can get a some very nice 3 round groups but then the 4th and or 5th round will make the group much larger due to inconsistency in the ammo. For 22LR CCI Standard Velocity will have or two fliers in each group taking the group well over 1 MOA. Some people want to see a group of 10 or more rounds. Others say 5 groups of 5-rounds may be needed.
Undoubtedly they can with someone that knows what they are doing. Factory ammo is like a 1 size fits most hat. I’d say finding factory round that out performs a hand load by someone that knows what they are doing is rare.
@@raykettel1837 Talking factory ammo it’s a toss up.. I’ve gotten batches of CCI standards that shoot lights out, and then others that don’t group worth a crap. I find mini mags a bit more consistent.. I lucked out and bought a case of PMC sidewinders in 22lr that have tested to be pretty consistent.. not saying the other 7 cases are.. lol. Some are better than others, but all are consistent enough to critter hunt. I’m not bitchin because I only paid $110 for each 5,000 round case shipped .. lol. Even high end match grade loads, especially in 22lr you can get better performance lot to lot.. Some websites will list 22lr match ammo by the lot.
@@lanejohnson7656 The lot of CCI Mini Mag I tested had groups of 2+ inches at 50 yards. I had three 50-round boxes of cheap Federal Champion that I purchased in January of 2022 that consistently provided 1 MOA groups at 100 yards in my Tikka T1X. The Champion lot numbers I receive in 2023 did not group well at all. So I agree ammo can vary much from lot to lot.
@@raykettel1837 Why I desperately want to get into reloading now that I have time. Not to save money, but to hopefully have consistent loads for my firearms I can reload for, heavily assuming I can figure it out.. lol. Rimfire I test as I buy it and separate and store them separately. Literally have what tests consistent more secure then the rest. Stingers seem to be really good, but the barrel manufacturer I use recommends not to use stingers..
I have a Gen 1, it’s is 1:8 twist barrel, and I have a Lucid 4-16 scope mounted on it. I can tell you that it shoots 55 grain “ok” but it truly starts to shine with heavier bullets. Personal best groups were with 73 grain Hornady ELD Match bullets, using CFE223 powder. That load continuously put 5 rounds in a group less than 1/2” at a 100 yards shooting off a bag. I love the rifle! 69 grain Sierra factory ammo also worked extremely well.
Nice work mate 🍻👍....Good to see another video that sticks it to the Ruger American haters. 😁 Also proof once again that most modern budget friendly factory rifles with even entry level affordable optics like the Hawke Vantage are going to put just as much venison on the table and pigs / varmints on the deck as rigs costing twice and three times as much. Take a look at the Element Optics Helix 2-16x50 HD if you are looking for a great allround hunting scope for your 7mm-08. Great glass, great turrets at a great price. 👍
I have to say, you have a GREAT attitude towards all the keyboard critics! Dont mind them. There is a serious wealth of experience out there, and we all can gleen something from it. Use the info to help yourself figure things out. Not everyone has the same regiment while testing products. Keep at it and change what YOU want to. Keep showing us the content. I am a very experienced shooter, and I occasionally see things that you could do differently. But I simply dont care. I enjoy your personality and passion for the gun culture! Keep on keeping on as they say.
The majority of all centerfire Ruger Americans will shoot MOA or less out of the box. I've owned over 4 dozen different Americans and set up at least 200 or more for people. I only remember 4 or 5 that had accuracy issues from the factory. One had a crown issue and other ones just had some left over burs in the barrel that were more prominent than usual. I ran a very light amount of lapping compound on a wire brush fairly vigorously back and forth through the barrel, shot a few really hard FMJs through it, cleaned it real good and it basically started shooting the rest of the groups touching (and some cut the same hole). A lot of people will think a new barrel shooting 2+ inches at a hundred is a bad or junk barrel straight from the factory. This is usually not the case for the most part. While some barrels like certain bullets a little better than others, sometimes new barrels just have to be broken in a little more than others. Ive seen new barrels that couldnt hold a 3 inch group the first box ran through them start waking up around the 3rd box and by the 10th box (200 rounds) they were cutting the same hole (some 6.5s are notorious for this, especially a lot of Creedmoors). A lot of people make the mistake of chronoing their new barrels also and get pissed when the speed is way slower than they thought. New barrels will be as much as a 50 to 200 fps slower than what they are after 100 to 200 rounds are shot through them. New barrels always need to shot a little first before they are really put through any type of accuracy or velocity testing👍
This is NOT a precision rifle it’s quite literally a RANCH rifle which isn’t necessarily anything more than a varmint rifle, no precision. At about 600 US it’s just about as entry level as it can get.
I have the gen 1 of this gun with an inexpensive Bushnell AR optics 3-9x40 scope. I use IMI Systems razor core 77 grain HPBT. With a bi-pod and rear bag (if I also do my part) it will shoot same hole accuracy at 100 yards all day and sub MOA at 250 yards.
I remember talking to a NYC police officer. We talked about how their new ARs were not accurate. It turned out how rifling twist rate and bullet weight would end witj accuracy being poor. Too fast a rate of twist with lite weight cause the accuracy to be really crazy. They went heavier rounds and got the desired accuracuy.
No matter what you do some people are not going to be happy ,you always give everything a fair shake ,you do a great job keep being you nuttin wrong with honest or authentic
Thanks for doing what ya do and glad to see them groups tighten up. Trying different ammo is dang expensive. Ya gotta give us a coyote thumping video now .... save some deers!!
I’ve got two of the first generation Ruger 308, and ‘06. I’ve been looking at another in 7-08 or 7PRC. Looks like it is still a good rifle. Good! Thanks for giving it a second chance.
Looking pretty sweet. Would love to see some chrony numbers on all that stuff. Maybe you could reach out to any of the new lab radar style units and try one out. The Garmin looks super portable and user friendly.
Sometimes a different bulb weight can make a lot of difference; my old Winchester model 94, prefers 170 grain, over the 150 grains that most 30-30's run on! & my deputy Sheriff nephew that is also an Iraq veteran learned the hardway,hardware, some of the big N.M. mule deer will stay on their feet & run off when hit with a 30-06 150 grain soft point bullet; I loaned him some Remington core lock 180 grain J.h.p. & the 30 grains make a lot of difference when fired from my old 03-A3 30- 06 ! & I learned that, just because he is military & law enforcement, doesn't mean they know everything about rifles...it means they are taught to shoot what the government issues them & that's not always the best equipment or ammunition! Our government always takes the lowest bid on guns & ammo! He also got shoot my 1st generation Ruger American in .308 & nailed the 🎯bullseye on a target, first time shooting the gun off hand & only about the 10th round ever fired from that rifle! We were actually shooting Winchester white box 150 f.m.j 7.62× Nato rounds! It just has a " cheap" Walmart scope on it, but some rifles are just accurate out of the box!
So this video probably says less about the rifle and more about the Remington PMC bulk ammo. Obviously, the rifle is a shooter, if the ammo is of decent quality. Glad to see that Ruger made another great rifle!
There are so many different bullet styles/constructions out there, not to mention powder and primer combos, I dunno how anyone can say "It won't like X weight"
glad you tried it again, there is no way that rifle is junk. more than likely the reason for the poor performance from the earlier test was just operator error.
77 tmk hammer in a 1in 7 but I hand load not sure what they come loaded in. Bit of old carpet on a wooden bench iv found helps tighten up the groups Great video shooting sweet for factory
OK WTW I Feel much better. I May move this back on my want list. I am still looking for a bolt or lever gun that will shoot 5.56. Here in California they don't like the AR-15. And I have a Few 5.56 rounds. So once again Thank-You. I did get a Tikka 223 but I don't feel great about feeding it 5.56.
I'm betting you had a burr in your barrel. My dad had that problem (30 years ago) and said it took 2 boxes of 30-06 before it started shooting right. Sounded suspect to me, but heck what do I know?
Don’t know why people would hate on a Lead Sled when you’re testing rifle accuracy. I have a Gen 1 7.62x39 and I’ve gotten .60” with Hornady Black at 100 and that’s with a 1-6 zoom QA optic. These little Rugers shoot!!! Thanks for the testing video, can’t wait to get the Gen 2 up here in 🇨🇦.
I have an Anderson AM15 carbine with a 1:8 twist barrel. It consistently produces 3/4in and under groups with 55 grain Hornady Varmint Express, 75 grain Hornady Match BTHP and custom 92 grain Berger loads. I don't find that rifle twist has much impact unless its at one extreme or the other. I do find that quality of the round is more important. Many other rounds I've used have groupings up to 2in or so. I've had the best luck using Hornady Match as a baseline when determining a rifles accuracy as it seems to be very consistent.
This is probably the 6th or 7th video featuring this rifle. Your latest video is by far the best performance from this rifle. All the others had pretty much the same performance of your first video including one guy who was shooting some hand loads. Isn't it strange that on a different day and conditions the accuracy improves by so much? Since you're not one to get tangled up in scientific gobbledygook I guess we will just have to be happy with the results. Keep pumping out these videos.
Hopefully Ruger has fixed their chamber issues. My first gen predator had a really short free bore and tight chamber. Would leave rifling marks on the bullets.
I wonder if the lead sled had any effect, I wouldn't think so but these did good. Also if last video was new gun and not many rounds I wonder if the barrel is getting burnished some now and is showing the results you were looking for
People don’t have understand twist rates. As long as the bullet is stable it doesn’t matter. 1:8 can stabilize 55-77gr easily. Nothing in that range is “better”
😂 it only likes certain ammo. Cool Hootie! I’ve never heard of a rifle like that, but it looks fun finding out what makes it function!! ….. or in this case, what type of ammo let’s it function right.🤔 I had a funky Pistol one time though, it didn’t like nothin. Cool Vid Brotha! Hootie whoooo..
That is really cool guy I loved the way you enjoyed doing that it was a long video but you edited it just right and made it so we could see everything that happened and what the rifle could do but I like to because you enjoyed it so much I really enjoyed this video thank you
