While Ogrepon is most definitely the ogre, it’s topknot, the little sandal like leaves, plant theming, and child like appearance of it in the one promo art where it’s taking off the mask makes me think it might be both momotaro and the oni at the same time.
An interesting idea I heard was that the dog, bird and monkey Mon were actually bullies pretending to be heroes. Which would be super interesting to explain why Ogrepon doesn’t explicitly seems to be a villain, is still chased off by the trio but has an important role of some kind
So, am I the only one who thinks Ogerpon looks like a bird? I don't know what exactly it's supposed look like, but there is a lack of distinct upper limbs, and it looks to me like it has wings and a beak. I'm unsure.
My guy, my man, most of the main story of Scarlet and Violet is a Momotaro reference. Never mind the fact that it’s completely possible to build a team of new pokemon based on the story, the main character uses the power of food, makes three friends, and goes with said three friends to an isolated location that serves as the base for the antagonist group of dangerous and supernatural monsters where they meet the leader and do battle with him/her.
The super sentai like masks seen in the trailer with the monkey having a visor like shinken blue is giving my sentai heart good feelings about this dlc
Actually, the "Pon" in "Orgepon" is actually related to the fruit "Ponkan", an unbelievably sweet tangerine. Given how all of the cover legendaries in Gen 9 are fruit-based (Koraidon is a blood orange, Miraidon is grape, Orgepon is a ponkan, and Terapagos is a blueberry) it makes perfect sense. It reflects harder when you look at the Japanese and Chinese names.
Y’know I really like how the new Pokémon for teal mask are based off Momotaro and that gamefreak announced it a day after the final episode of avataro Sentai Donbrothers so I already made a box specifically for them and named it donbrothers
@@lancebird6675 the only problem is that Ogrepon is definitely either gonna be a fusion of Momotaro and and oni or just the oni which means either way it’s down one member.
I kinda don't got how we're supposed to discover something within or fron Area Zero by going to places far from Area Zero. But maybe it's part of the paradox? Like how the paradox Pokémon were supposedly summoned by the time machine yet the Scarlet/Violet book describes how explorers wittnessed them in their expeditions.
or y'know regional forms, remember that? we only got 2 (well 4 cuz tauros got 3 breeds) from the base game, could get more in DLC, or the Convergent Pokemon, the new thing the introduced in gen 9, which also we got only 4, y'know it could be those 2, just saying
I can't wait for you to do the folktale of the turtle where a fisherman saves it from bullying and then a bigger turtle comes to invite the fisherman to the dragon palace. But also has everyone realise Orgepon eyes are yellow and it matches the star bits on the area zero logo patch and the turtle is blue. There is also two more colors red and green I wonder what legends there going to be.
The problem is the map image you showed is for part 2. Part 1/2 take place in different areas. That island could totally be the location for part 2, however I think the Galápagos Islands are also likely to be the location given Terapago’s name and it being a turtle. The Galapagos were also owned by Spain until the 1800s
Doesn't the 2nd DLC take place on the ocean on a floating island of sorts? I could be wrong as I haven't looked into it that much but I'm sure there was a description about it mostly being underwater.
@@jaykera The website says it's the school but I feel like if there's another area for the 2nd DLC it'll be connected to, if not directly in, Area Zero rather than being a brand new island. To be perfectly blunt about it, I find it hard to believe Game Freak could handle two/three brand new separate islands considering the state of the game and their tight deadlines. I feel they'll cut corners in any way they can, even if they'd rather not. (I'd love to be proven wrong of course.)
@@ArtzyZero I agree I feel like DLC 1 is going to be in sinjoh primarily as a business decision to get hisuian mon into the pokemon box ecosystem so it'll likely be a fairly large area. Leaving dlc 2 to be a more focused dlc that hints finishes the story of paldea and hints toward a future title (doesn't have to be the next gen but with the suspicious missing pokemon on the dlc 2 splash art I feel like there's something important there)
Kitakami is also an actual city residing in the Tohoku region, which is just to the south of Hokkaido and northeast of the real-world Kanto, so the school field trip may have us also encountering folks from Johto, Kanto, & Sinnoh
Maybe even Hoenn also. Hoenn is based on Kyushu; I can see in the future a ferry that can allow travel between Hoenn and Johto. Kitakami may end up being the name of the region that is the analog of Tohoku and therefore in between Kanto and Sinnoh.
Momotaro Desetsu finally being referenced in Pokemon is awesome! The tale has been referenced in many other animes including Maid Sama when Misa is the boy in the tale and the 3 idiots being the Dog,Monkey,and Pheasant.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Right you are, especially because Pokémon’s adaptation of Momotaro literally happened the day after Donbrothers ended, which was a Sentai season that was also based on Momotaro.
I have a feeling that the "pon" part Ogrepon's name isn't just another word for cute (which it is under the mask) or a light bonk noise, but itself is indeed a pawn in the DLC, the real baddie is the mask itself. *Underneath that mask lies a sad, guilty, & scared Pokémon who just wanted to stop being afraid of everything because some bully kids & wild Pokémon used to torment the poor thing with scary pranks. It thought that wearing the cursed/enchabted mask would make it more intimating to it's bullies, only to have it backfire & the mask starts to take control of Ogrepon against its own will.
@@Internextion The Kamen Rider bug makes perfect sense since Pokemon was literally inspired by tokusatsu, if anything it is a surprise that it took them so long to do it cuz Kamen Rider is pretty big in Japan
Love the Bill Wurtz reference at the end LMAOO Also very hyped for this dlc Literally the day before the presents Avataro Sentai Donbrothers finished airing in Japan It's a super Sentai season that I adore And i was quite sad that it was over but seeing this makes me happy and i can't wait to name all of these pokemon after the rangers
I still can’t believe that Pokémon announced Pokémon based on the Momotaro story, like a day after Donbrothers, a Super Sentai show with characters based on the same story, ended.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Neither can I, even after Pecharunt got added, he represents Don Momotaro, and the fact that Garchomp already exists, that Mon can be interpreted as representing Don Murasame, not to mention Infernape, Don Dragoku, and a Shiny Incineroar, Don Torabolt. Also, Honedge could also represent Don Murasame, as The Ninjark Sword.
As someone with an MA in Asian Studies, I love that Pokemon has been doing these Japanese and Chinese historical tie-ins with regions based on European countries.
Hey Lock! You should do a video on the four Ruin Pokemon. Maybe go into how they (and the professor inside the caldera) represent what happens if you go to far in your hunt for treasure "Enter stranger but take heed, of what awaits the sin of greed"
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Agreed, even though it might be no coincidence, especially since three more Donbrothers, four, if you count both of Jiro Momotani’s Ranger forms as two separate characters, have Pokemon counterparts, now. Those are Don Momotaro (Pecharunt,), Don Murasame (Garchomp, and, Honedge,), and Don Dragoku (Infernape,), also, Don Torabolt (Shiny Incineroar.).
I bet this is related to the avataro sentai donbrothers super sentai season. Considering it just finished airing, and got a lot of attention for how weird it is, the timing is perfect.
Definitely but it’s interesting that they only made 4 members for this and made Momotaro a human. Like it makes sense for the original context but having a 5th member would’ve been nice
@@digidrveKJ @MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Great, and it is also fitting, as Taro Momoi/Don Momotaro is the only member of the five main Donbrothers to not use CGI in his suit at all. Actually, we have Pecharunt for Don Momotaro, and, also, both Garchomp, and, Honedge for Don Murasame, not to mention, Don Dragoku gets represented in Infernape, and Shiny Incineroar represents Don Torabolt.
4:38 Was it ever confirmed that Blueberry Academy was also located in Kitakami? I can see the area for the Indigo Disk being based on Majorca, but the trailer made it imply that Kitakami was a new area entirely since they said it’s located beyond the Paldea region
Same. Especially since Kitakami comes from North (In Japanese (Kita can mean north) and in the names it has in other languages. So it is either the Northeast area or based on Northern Honshu (the big island that Johto and Kanto's inspirations are from).
The Super Sentai masks inspired on the new trio is amazing and I want more Super Sentai Pokemon. Wonder if there is a legend of them being heroes in the game.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: No, unfortunately, there is not. If you played through The Teal Mask, spoiler warning, you will find that The Loyal Three were the villains the whole time, which is why, at the end of the DLC, they are referred to as The “Loyal” Three, or The Lousy Three.
I thought that small map in the trailer map looked a lot like the region around Rotterdam, the Netherlands. Since the Netherlands has a history with both Spain and Japan, I think it's still possible that part 2 of the DLC will be partially based on Holland. I also noticed that some of the new characters are wearing red, white and blue clothing, but I am probably grasping at straws there. there also is a lot of water
What I'm curious about is why the 3 new Pokemon look pretty sinister/dark... what's notable is in the festival scene, we see those sentai-style masks of the 3 of them, so I wonder if they might have alternate forms of their real hero selves (and the current forms are due to the influence of Ogrepon)?
I already loved the designs of the three Warrior Pokemon; they feel so stylized and unique. But to know they're designs are based off of clothing makes me love them so much more!!! I'm so curious about the story of the Teal Mask. It feels like Indigo Disc corolates with the story of Terastalizing, but the Teal Mask may have a new story to tell
@@digidrveKJ @MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Great, and, it is also fitting, as Don Momotaro is the only one of the five core Donbrothers to not use any CGI in his suit at all. Actually, we now have Pecharunt for Don Momotaro, and, also, Garchomp, and, Honedge, as well, for Don Murasame, not to mention, Infernape for Don Dragoku. Also, Shiny Incineroar for Don Torabolt.
Honestly, if Sawk and Throh is ever coming back, NOW would be the best time. Perhaps as 'lesser Oni' for you to battle and catch as some sort of initiation.
5:25 Samurai Shodown taught me about Dejima, with the fifth game giving Charlotte her own stage set on the island. The official soundtrack even refers to the visitors of the island as Nanban, or "Southern Barbarians."
I actually have a lot of nostalgia for Momotaro surprisingly enough, mainly from being read the story in Japanese class and also the Amada Mario Anime Series’ adaptation of the story. So seeing what the DLC entailed is a pleasant surprise. Regarding DLC, I wouldn’t mind having no new game next year if it meant we got more content updates. Especially if Legends Arceus and BDSP got them.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Me too, especially because Donbrothers ended the day before Pokemon Day, and, we now have Pecharunt (Don Momotaro,), Infernape (Don Dragoku,), Shiny Incineroar (Don Torabolt,), and, Garchomp, also, Honedge (Don Murasame.).
Hey maybe this was obvious but I just realized that if the 3 starters and the 3 new funky animals are based on celebrations it might be they chose that because they celebrated over 1000 pokemon recently
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: I did, too, especially because this DLC got announced the day after Donbrothers ended, which was also based on that same story.
So basically, instead of pillaging the villaging, it just sneaks into everyone’s house and sets their clocks back 30 minutes so everyone is late to work at once and has to decide whether anyone is actually late or not
Before I saw their names, I thought Fezandipiti and Okidogi were like, DLC alternate variants of Quaquaval and Meowscarada. I was SUPER confused when I saw Munkidori, and also super confused as to why we would immediately get variants of the newest starters, that felt like it'd be a bit much, even if it was exciting.
Here's a wild guess on the heroes' types: - Okidogi: Fairy/Fighting - Munkidori: Fairy/Psychic - Fezandipiti: Fairy/Flying And a wilder guess on Ogerpon: it's currently being violent because of the influence of its Terastal-studded mask, and the three heroes want to save it.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Me too, especially since we now have all of the main five Donbrothers as Pokemon, as well as both of Jiro Momotani’s Ranger forms (Infernape is Dragoku, and, Incineroar, in his Shiny colors, is Torabolt,), and, Don Murasame (Garchomp, and, also, Honedge.).
Well thanks to this. I can now see where the first DLC is based on as in how were getting a Japanese themed area but also be connected to Paldea in some way. Which makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
@@theratifier7669 love it how you only replied to him, there are more people than him spamming, but like he said it’s the internet can’t really doing anything.
Tbh, I’m more hyped for The Teal Mask than The Indigo Disk. TID’s main thing is the legendary, that being the disk Pokémon that keeps getting referenced in The Scarlet and Violet Books. Meanwhile, all four of the new Pokémon were getting in TTM (that we know of right now) are all extremely cool and fun with Fezandipiti being my favorite right now due to just how beautiful it looks.
I didn't even realise that the teal mask dlc is set inside paldea! But does make sense. But blueberry is surely outside of paldea 'cause I thought I heard something like "it's nice to explore outside of Paldea so you will see a lot of other pokémon, you can't catch in Paldea"
Oh man we NEED an update to this given some of the Indigo Disk datamining and speculation going on regarding the Loyal Three potentially having a boss they answer to...
Hey, Lockstin. There's a live action promo that shows the Teal mythicals with masks resembling those ones used in shows like Power Rangers. So maybe they will have an alternate form we will use for a fight with a giant Ogrepon.
@@GalacticFlare @MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Agreed. Also, the visors on The Donbrothers’ suits, called Avataro Skins, are meant to resemble sunglasses, because their main power source are the glasses, and The Avatar Data stored in The Avataro Gears.
Y'know, this video has given me a new-found love for the "Party Kami Trio", as I like to call them. At first, aside for Ogerpon, I thought they were kinda bad. Okidogi is an example of Pokemon Dogs not being able to capture the perfection of real Dogs and making something ugly instead, Munkidoki is a literal bean, and Fezandipiti looks like it's trying to be an elegant yet badass Psychic type like Galarian Articuno but not pulling it off as well (assuming Fezandipiti is even Psychic to begin with). Now, yeah, I definantly like 'em more.
You know, now that I think about it food brings us together, like tempura came from the Portuguese and i believe technology advances too for Japan. Is it referencing that which Japan likes the treasures. I feel like this Momotaro story is going to be very different and see the Oni side like a twist to the tale are a perspective. People just wanted treasures and no real connections.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Me too, especially because of the fact that this DLC was announced literally the exact day after Donbrothers ended its run.
Ogerpon looks like a green apple too. And if you look at the trailer for DLC they show apple trees when the character arrives at Kitakami. Could be the case since the new school is called Blueberry which is where we will learn about Terapagos (who is also blue). Orange, Grapes, Blueberries, and Apples. Hmmm 🤔
Damn. You fighting TTar reminds me of the good old days when Giancarlo Parimango and TTar were in drama during the Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire era. 😂
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Exactly, my friend. Also, most people in The United States would know about Momotaro from an episode of the animated series “Super Why” about the story of Momotaro, and, by extension, those people who watched that episode would also understand the plot of Donbrothers itself.
I think the lanterns might hint to there typings. On the right side of the teal mask image. Under the grass type is psychic, under fire is fairy, and water is ghost. The typings on the left seem to be shifted but are still in the same column with poison, fighting, and I think steel being the Tera type of the mask
With all the content from this video being said, I have a theory about what this dlc will have, and as such, would like to pose a what-if scenario for Lockstin and the comments to ponder: What if there was more than one peach flowing down the river?
I don't know if someone has mentioned this, but I find it very interesting that the Ancient Greek word for mask is "prosopon", which rhymes quite well with the name of a certain soon to appear masked pokemon.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Right. Also, this reminds me of something. In Donbrothers, Tsuyoshi Kijino, also known as Kiji Brother, marks the first ever time that there was a male Pink Ranger in The Super Sentai Series, excluding Mario Mori, also known as Zyuoh Human, from Zyuohger. Similarly, Fezandipiti is a pink pheasant who has a 100% male gender ratio.
I find it weird that they would do 2 games bassed on the same place/region (I am talking about the Fiore region wich some of the community place in the irl location of kitakami)
I've been WAITING long enough and MUST speak: I need that 1 hour video explaining the whole of Gen9 pokemon roster because outtta all the gens in Pokemon, this one is one of those that needs the most help with backstories and concepts! So PLEASE make the video Lockstin...? Please...? Gotta explain em all!
look people not perfect hell I'm not, T-tar get hate like he said for no reason, just help out even the tiniest bit, watch both you and T-tar and made me happy just sad how T-tar getting hate, even if you mess up try to fix this, its not right
The fact that the Pokémon Talk that introduced Pokémon based on the legend of Momotaro days after the Super Sentai based on the same legend (Avataro Sentai Donbrothers) ended is hilarious, until I remember the show is over.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Right you are, despite the fact that 1. Pecharunt (representing Don Momotaro) debuted in the Mochi Mayhem epilogue chapter, and 2. Garchomp (representing Don Murasame) probably does not appear in The Kitakami Pokedex at all, and that can also apply to Infernape and Incineroar, both of whom reference both of Jiro Momotani’s Ranger identities, Infernape is Don Dragoku, and Incineroar, in his Shiny color scheme, at the very least, is Don Torabolt. Not to mention, Honedge, representing The Ninjark Sword.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Right you are, also, here are some other nickname suggestions for the other Momotaro Pokemon: Pecharunt: NipponIchi. Garchomp, and, Honedge: KiritsuteSorry. Infernape: ChoIchiRyu. Shiny Incineroar: ExTora.
@@Kamiyouni @MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Why a Basculegion for Don Murasame, instead of Garchomp? Also, what do you mean, “from jacq”? Does this have anything to do with J.A.K.Q Dengekitai, the second season of Super Sentai, which is also series creator Shotaro Ishinomori’s second and final season?
@@avoprim5028 lol it's the only purple fish I could find. I know garchomp is a shark but, it's not the color of Murasame, shiny basculegion fits the color. Jacq is the homeroom teacher in SV. If you find him in Kitakami, he'll give you a Sinnoh starter egg.
I love that I remembered the Momo guy as you said it. Then I'm like "wait where the eff do I know this from because I know I've never seen this anime". I even remembered that he was connected to peaches in some way. It all happened at thinking speed so it'd take a dissertation to detail it but you get it. When you mentioned the video my brain jumped to Truegreen7 talking about how your videos are so amazing because you make "pokemon videos" but not really pokemon videos. You learn about so many topics from your content
The old era Japanese were allegedly shocked by the appearance of Westerners, some had to wear basket helmets like the 3 storms from Big Trouble in Little China or that Dog head Shinigami in Bleach. Episode 6 of Samurai Champloo (a period adventure) shows the Dutch traders wearing these.
My guess is the theme for Teal Mask is that the land of Kitakami is a bountiful land full of goods and green which will tie in with the Forces of Nature together with Enamorous.
Legit just naming them after the Don brothers. If Ogrepon is both Momotaro and the oni we won’t have the full team but hopefully we do get a momotaro mon but probably not since it seems like the Momotaro stand in is a trainer which makes sense.
@MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Agreed, especially because Don Momotaro is the only one of the five core Donbrothers to not use any CGI at all for his Ranger form. Although, we now have Pecharunt for Don Momotaro, and, by extension, Garchomp, and, Honedge, as well, for Don Murasame. Also, Infernape for Don Dragoku, and Shiny Incineroar for Don Torabolt.
Wasn't able to make the stream, but supposedly you apologized to Ttar on stream. Have to give credit where credit is due. Actually apologizing for your actions is a big W. Unfortunately, that's not enough to make me subscribe back to you, but it's a very good step forward.
I can give him props for actually going in the call with TTAR but being the bigger man? That apology did not feel heartfelt bro. He kept trying to sneak in excuses like “I had one hour of sleep”, “I’m bad with words”. It’s also weird how his reasoning for slandering TTAR was to discredit the guy who asked him to give TTAR his credit. That was pure slander that was posted about TTAR and only got deleted because TTAR got involved. If he really was trying to avoid drama he would’ve immediately deleted it because people were posting bad things about TTAR but he left it up until TTAR called him out.
he apologized bc ttar had to force him to. he didn't apologize and when he tried on twitter and in the discord call it was fake and even he admitted it. took him three times to do so which is wild to me. still have no idea why he took a jab at ttar when he doesnt know anything about him
