Our military, in a war zone, have tighter rules of engagement than police in the US...let that sink in. Our government is more concerned with our country's enemies, than they are with citizens.
@@raiynna2395Close but not really. You must have PID (Positive Identification). That’s of a viable threat. The police in the USA can kill with impunity.
@@raiynna2395 yea not really. Imminent deadly threats. Someone just pointing a gun at you is an Imminent deadly threat, you don't have to wait. Depends what you are doing.
I think our freedoms ended when the Supreme Court took upon themselves the authority to interpret our Rights. Maybe later when Washington decided that states could not secede. Certainly it ended when Washington instituted the draft during the Civil War.
so true. more mental health intervention services could save lives and save millions of dollars per year. a friend's neighbor called for help for their autistic son hurting himself only and the cops came and blew him away. we are not allowed to hurt ourselves that's the cops job.
If you didn't call them, know for a fact that you are not causing a noise disturbance, and your house isn't on fire, you have no reason to open your door to police officers at ANY time. They have no legitimate reason to BE there.
@@RhiorrhaUnfortunately this poor old soul made the mistake of calling 911 for help. There needs to be a helpline for elderly and mentally ill people to call instead of calling 911 and possibly being killed.
@@edhellbilly Until the mid 80's TDC was taught at the academies. T for time to evaluate the situation, De for distance, the greater distance give you time to react, C for cover, even a wood plank give you cover against a knife. Now, cops just rush gun in the hand, they don't know what is happening and consider everyone a menace. 2 weeks in academy is just a joke compared to most European countries is 1.5 to 3 years.
If the cops felt grandma was holding something behind her back they should have just backed up down the stairs. Instead one cop decided to annoy her shining his light in her face while the other started pushing the door I'm to her. Very odd behavior.
@timb7775 right. Either we aren't training cops right or we are hiring some low iq egotistical cops. This one was just insane that he freaked out and shot here. She needed a medical professional not a killer with a badge.
Cops look for crimes, I got whipped away in cuffs and treated like an animal for punching my own drywall in a physical and mental breakdown, they really do know how to make you feel dehumanized, then they put an informer number in your cell wall AND ceiling!!!
It amazes me that the cops are allowed to create dangerous situations out of thin air and then use that as a "reasonable" situation to end a law-abiding citizen's life.
this should be part of the training because every time they get a call they have this image from a movie and their training about what they should expect instead of actually observing what is what is right in front of them. Turn the movie off and listen. should be the first direction in training.
Si lo he visto mucha veces ... Insisten en buscar problemas al ciudadano ... Y si no encuentran la manera lo llevan al estrés extremo y luego les arrebaten la vida... La democracia de estados unidos....
@anitamiller7960 He didn't want to lose his opportunity to take an innocent grandma's life. I would bet the farm he lost zero sleep over it and it was not his first time taking an innocent life due to not following his protocol. This women was having clarity issues and this demon took advantage of this obvious fact.
That right has most certainly became a privilege just think of all the ways you can loose that so called right the number of laws that can get you banned are absolutely endless to the point no human on the planet knows the number of
Its simple. We do not have rights. All the BS are feel good words to make you believe you matter, that you have rights and that you count in this country.
Sounds like a back-door govt strategy to disarm the population. It is proving difficult to defeat the 2nd amendment in court so they are just trying to make it to risky to use a gun, which might outweigh the benefit of having one.
@@xenosayain1506 Yes, exactly. There was a push to do that in many states about 25 years ago. People were open carrying all over where I lived in Ohio.
@5:38, "killing someone is not that big a deal", them why did I try to help treat veterans at the VA with that 1,000 mile stare? You sir are a sociopath.
@@DavePryor302yes absolutely sure. All he had to do was announce himself while he had the drop on the guy and clearly dude wouldn’t have raised on him. If he had acted like he was then drop him. Dude had absolutely no way to know it was police.
Did you not listen to why the officer was staged up in the dark at that house??? BECAUSE DISPATCH screwed up and sent the officers to that address on a domestic violence call with SHOTS FIRED. So in other words, the officers thought they were going into a violent situation and someone there was armed and was shooting. So as they are trained, you park down the road and try to sneak up on said person with a gun so that said person doesn't have time to shoot at you or time to shoot or take the other person involved in the domestic dispute hostage. I saw video footage of that incident, and police dispatch is to blame for that, they screwed up bad on that call.
This is absolutely ridiculous. They have body armor. It's mind blowing that soldiers will go to prison for firing their weapon against the rules of engagement. I was in Afghanistan with AK-47 rounds bouncing off my truck and couldn't fire because the convoy commander said hold fire. The fact that a cop can kill a citizen is outrageous and miscarriage of justice. Especially with service members currently serving time prison for the exact same thing.
If you don't talk to them, don't open the door, even though they're supposed to have a warrant to enter your home, they might decide to bust your door down. Then what? I'm just asking. I'd like to know your thoughts about what to do if that happens.
I live in Florida , in a RESIDENT OWNED COMMUNITY , and I can't tell you how many times I've had to tell the local police to get off PRIVATE PROPERTY , whether they are writing reports or just driving around... Most times they leave but on other occasions I have to contact the local Sheriff's department and have them removed... It boggles my mind that they think they can do whatever they want...
They are criminals, so what's your point LOL If one shows up like that, that's totally criminal. And yeah, they show up all sneaky even when they oughtn't. They'll barge right in at four ayem, and chute you in your bed without so much as a how=do-you-do?
I feel like the old woman's shooting was not warranted either. She tried to shut her door and that officer refused to let her . He had no right to push her door open & force her to engage with cops. Why ALWAYS LETHAL FORCE?!?
Just let the woman close her door. It's her residence. 4th amendment violation pushing inside the house to keep the door open. Making this murder while in commission of another crime
This is correct. The cop pressed the issue by keeping a frail elderly woman from closing the door to her own home. Chances are she initially believed that there was someone prowling outside her home and armed herself with that knife. We can only see the perspective of the cop. Though it appears that the area directly outside the front door lacked sufficient lighting and he was shining his light into her home. Plus, the inside of her home was poorly lit, and her eyes may have been more adjusted to the dark. It is likely from her perspective that she would be unable to see much aside from the flashlight shining towards her and hear the cop's voice. She might have doubted she was dealing with real police and became scared.
And since this is a problem for many officers in many departments, RICO laws come into question, in my opinion. Cop gangs break it even more blatantly, but I think regular officers are there too. Disgusting.
It doesn't matter if it's unconstitutional or against the law, killing you is "no big deal" and their "investigation" will affirm that taking your life or your rights is ok for them to do.
Exactly! They weren't afraid for their lives, which would justify shooting. They were afraid of getting cut. Huge difference. Less lethal could have been used, like disarming her, telling her to put the knife down, backing away, tasing her. Just absurd.
"This proves they are cowards" just like Acorn man, and Uvalde PD. Broken records, these pigs. Over and over we see their inability to do anything useful besides send us to Heaven prematurely.
Australian police officer who felt threatened tasers a 95yr women who dies a week later. She threatened him with a steak knife while useing a walking frame and suffers from dementia. Clearly it was him or her.
She was tasered and hit her head on the ground as she fell. The police officer was charged with fatally tasering the lady and is awaiting trial. Thankfully, it is a rare occurrence here in Australia. We really don't live in fear of being shot by anyone. While we do have some gun crime, guns are not in the culture and are usually involved in drug gang related violence.
Hmm.. That officer actually is armed more than a old woman yet scared of a steak knife? It's not a gun, a knife don't have a long range distance and it got a close range distance. A person with knife always have several blind spots than a person with gun. Consider the fact she was a OLD woman, so she don't have strength that's easy to get hold of her knife or knock it off or make her to drop it. Being very old human always means their body and health are actually fragile. Tasering a old human that cause a stress in their fragile hearts and send them a early death rather than their death hourglass ran out of sand. That officer made a incorrect decision to send her a early death and that decision will be forever labeled him as a murderer no matter what the court or the police department says.
In Japan a man went on a stabbing spree in Tokyo resulting in multiple deaths, the police subdued him without using their guns. They are trained to disarm a knife holding criminal without using their guns.
I don't think they start out being cowards there train to become cowards it's funny how the the kid that was in the air force was better trained in handling it then the cop he never raised the gun or hand on the trigger remember cops you guys are the ones that started why should the public trust you knocking on their doors for public safety we will protect ourselves from you.
Unless you are a specialized SWAT officer in a very specific situation, there’s no damn reason to be creeping around someone’s home or property in the dark unannounced! In that situation the homeowner should have every right to defend themselves.
In the case of the man that was shot in his driveway: Whereas I agree that homeowners should have the right to defend themselves against threats, in this situation, the most prudent response would have been to call 911 and report someone lurking about their house in the middle of the night. Going outside in the dark to confront an unknown person (who could be armed) is not the brightest idea. However, in the case of the homeowner that saw someone lurking about, and since the cops didn't announce their presents, those police officers should have been charged with manslaughter or second-degree murder. Had they just driven up with their lights flashing, this could have been averted. The fault here was the police; they should have made their presence clearly known; the court was wrong to suggest that they weren't at fault...
The police don't care. My neighbor got SWATed 3 times in a year and the police didn't care to find the guy that was SWATing him. They were angry at my neighbor for getting SWATed they were trying to find something on him. They were trying to humiliate him. The police were angry at me for being his neighbor and trying to find something on me. Apparently, you can SWAT people all day and the chances of the police coming after you are slim to none.
@krane15 yea, it sucks that the homeowner would have been put in prison for shooting because he went to the danger which is stupid. Yet officers can bring the danger, kill someone innocent, and it's justified.
Relax, cops almost never get charged for any of their crimes. And the police departments will keep on demanding more funding from taxpayers every year, and they will get it - no questions asked.
"If you have fully prepared yourself", you know a cop is the most dangerous person you will ever meet. This is the condition of America now. The people have to prepare themselves to survive the police.
She tried to close the door and they forced it back open. If they were in fear they would have let her close the door and left. They weren't investigating a crime.
Yep, they could have just simply back away when they noticed the old lady holding her hand behind he back instead of trying to press into the house. But that would be de-escalation and they are phisically incapable of it.
Is it not stress, is it not combat? As a former infantryman I can tell you I wouldn’t personally ever become a cop because I love freedom to much to take it away personally from other people. Especially a system so jacked up and corrupt. The gun laws in this country are unconstitutional and illegal but this weak ass country gave up what little freedom we had when the thing was signed. Can’t have a stain like slavery on your record and expect it to be a perfect system.
@@TheSakufighter 03 or 11? At any rate, I’ve been both army and city cop and I can tell you that the majority of the cops that I worked with that were NON-PS had some thing about escalating the situation when we were thought to deescalate. The combat is in their heads.
@@brianr8581 Why didn't they go see who was down by the wall? I can't blame her for being terrified. The cops were not helping her and just bossing her around and being rude.
I've repeatedly asked; What makes that LEO's life inherently more valuable than that civilian's? How many people need to die before "for my safety" is seen as the BS that it is?
Thats the thing though . They don't look at non cops as equals. Thats the whole idea of desecration our flag with the blue stripe. I have family who are cops . At any large get together we have they always hang around each other. @MrEkzotic
The problem with most national agencies is the more problems to solve, the bigger the funding. There is no loyalty to the nation or other meaningful values, just selfish opportunism.
The FBI is too crooked to hold police responsible. The only people that should hold police accountable is the American public. And if we have to use force to do that than so be it!
They're inciting a riot and they are taking people that are probably either already borderline aggressive criminals, or have deep psychological issues and have the propensity to pray on weaker, so many cops have these issues and they're in charge of us. I'm afraid to leave the house
@@shyecjj Well stated. I would arguably state that once she began to close the door the invitation to be on the property was revoked. At that point the officer's continued effort to open the door presented a real threat and danger to the woman to act in self defense.
Why ever take any risk when you can solve all problems with a gun and face no consequences? Imagine the chaos if everyone else could solve all their problems with a gun without worrying about getting in trouble or getting rewarded with a paid vacation.
The rule at our house is we don't answer the door to cops. We could see them on the cameras, and can ask what they want. We don't answer questions, we don't give information except name, address and DOB. And we sure as hell don't open the door to anyone at 3am.
I just read something that deeply resonated with me. The poster said, 'If you can be instantly shot by police, just for being cautious and answering the door holding a gun, then there is NO Second Ammendment."
@@TNAROHfan But if there is no Constitution, that also means there is no government...just the greatest case of mass identity theft that has ever existed.
When cops receive pseudo military training where being told it's okay to kill people and don't fret about it then this is what you should expect from them and when you throw in QI and a very poor understanding of the law and your legal rights you have a real problem on your hands. You may be free but you certainly aren't safe and the biggest threat to the average American citizen is the very agency that swore to protect you. If you have to be afraid to answer your own door then the system is irretrievably broken already. I pray for you all and whatever you do NEVER, EVER, EVER trust the police to make the right judgement call because your life may depend on it.
After Columbine shooting I asked a SWAT trainer why the police did not enter the school while the shooting was going on. He said the number one priority of a cop is the safety of his life, then victims, and finally the bad guys. The SWAT trainer basically justified killing anybody if they felt threatened as his life was more important than people he served. Fast forward to Uvalde. Those cops acted in a manner where they essentially decided their lives were more important than the kids who died. So in FL, off anybody because the moral compass of the cops put themselves at the center of the universe.
@@jimmydandy9364 If any normal person did what the cop did they would right now be in prison. Tell that to the parents at Uvalde that the cops were okay staying outside the school.
I worked in elder care for years, I have dealt with hundreds of people just like that old woman. I have been punched, kicked, bitten, spit on, and attacked with anything and everything that could be used as a weapon. Never once did I hurt anyone.
lol as a CNA myself I feel you I'm a big guy 6'3" 270 lb and as big as some cops its not hard to take care of an old lady trying to hurt you and still keep that old lady safe
@@johnrhodes101875 I’m 6’2, 230 pounds, my very first job was at the Ontario Regional Centre in Woodstock Ontario Canada. My job was to keep the nurses safe, it was the worst people Society had forgotten. Violence was a daily, hourly occurrence. At most they should have just tased that woman, or just reached out and grabbed the knife.😂 Stay safe my friend.👍
When I enlisted in the Air Force, I knew the risks. I accepted those risks. If police can’t accept those risks, they aren’t man enough or woman enough for the job and they deserve no respect.
No, man. They're just taking pride in, you know, hitting a target. Like in training. You succeeded in your training. Those people out there aren't really people. They're just targets. Yeah, this totally doesn't train these guys to be in a war footing at all
Just found this account, you are by far the most professional account that covers these cases. Thank you for what you do, perhaps not all lawyers are scummy…
She had no valid reason whatsoever to do what she did in the video........she is the one who called for cops to show up, clearly her life was not threatened here, it was an expected visit, had she survived, she would have been charged and rightfully so. It's amazing how much people are quick to bash cops and conveniently ignore context. I'm sure those people would change their stance if cops saved their lives or loved ones. Not ALL cops are corrupt killers !
They are no longer peace officers. When I was growing up cops were our neighbors, went to our churches, were Little League coaches. Now cops are no longer required to live in communities that employ them.
They voluntarily joined the profession of arms, but refuse to take the risks that go along with it. This is the standing army our forefathers warned us about.
I agree, the ones we want for cops are those who serve and take risks. Not the ones who repeat the mantra that "no matter what, I'm going home safe tonight." They must be willing to risk injury to protect people's rights. Not their own. That is what earns respect from the public, and why we call service people heroes. The job is to KEEP THE PEOPLE SAFE, NOT KEEP YOURSELVES SAFE!
Remember about the cop who mistook a acorn nut that fell from its tree onto his patrol vehicle, and believed a gun shot emitted from within the patrol vehicle with hands handcuffed behind the individual in the back seat of the patrol vehicle. He went ballistic firing his sidearm into his patrol vehicle, emptying his weapon, and believing he was hit with a bullet, but was not hit with the imaginary bullet. The female cop who was at the scene opened fire on the patrol vehicle by instruction from the delusional cop. This what the citizen public has to fear that cops are potentially more dangerous than criminals, because cops mostly get a free pass on shooting innocent citizens. The old excuse of "I thought I saw a weapon in the hand".
A friend of mine in Providence was welfare checked to death. He was wearing headphones when the police entered without a warrant and he didn't hear them. He was cutting himself a slice of brownie and turned with the knife when they entered. They opened fire and emptied their guns, hitting him seven times and themselves twice. They shattered his spine and made him quadriplegic, then came to him in the hospital and warned him if he tried to sue, they'd arrest him and he'd die in a prison hospital with inadequate care. He died of pneumonia two years later, and his parents then sued and won $7 million.
I recently moved from Indiana to VA. My house is 10 mins from the VA/WV state line. I love how your channel puts a spotlight on these awful situations! Keep up the great work!
I gave you a like, but body armor does not stop a knife. It is made to stop ballistics, but a slower moving knife will pass through it. That being said, an 81-year-old woman probably does not have enough Force to drive a knife through a ballistics vest. Even if she threw all her body weight into it. Police officers are mostly cowards nowadays.
A few years ago Seattle police were afraid of a young mother who called to report a burglary. She had kitchen knives in her kitchen, apparently at one point panicked and picked one up. She weighed about 90 pounds and they shot her in front of her kids. It must be so hard to be 200 pound officers in fear of a tiny woman.
Why do we keep sending cops, who are only trained in violence, to do mental health calls. Thousands of therapists could have visited that woman and gotten her help without killing her, just like delivery drivers don’t kill dogs, and EMT’s don’t tase seizure patients. Scratch that-millions of ordinary people who have souls could have gotten that woman the help she needed without killing her.
Their 'self-defence' trumps your self-defence, because apparently they are worth more than you...... So it would appear according to all of the court rulings.
Have you ever heard of "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth?" We need to bring that back, in obvious cases of assault and murder, such as these examples. The cops didn't identify himself in the dark and just lit him up on his own private property. Such disgrace!
When is it going to become "reasonable" for cops to consider they are at the wrong address? Can we require every cop to have a pizza delivery guy with them on a ride along to avoid going to the wrong address?
@@Phrbtt7 In-custody Deaths, like Positional Aspiration? They just throw a dude in the back of the van, tilting his head so he can't breath, and take their time getting to the jail so by the time they arrive, he's dead.
Qualified immunity is to prevent civil lawsuits directly at the cop... it doesn't give them any immunity to criminal charges. You can still sue a department or city or something the cop is acting on behalf of, its only personally protecting them. Its not as big of a deal that people make it out to be.
@@markbonner1139 Because everyone in the legal system does as much as they can do to cover eachother... they'll lie, cheat, steal, and kill... to get things how they want them. They basically just oversee themselves.
@AyaWetts That's exactly the problem. There is no accountability for that individual officer who abuses his power. When they become personally liable and accountable for their actions, all this shit will stop.
Like shooting at their own squad car with a handcuffed prisoner inside because of a noise made by a falling acorn. That's a classic. Where do they find these clowns?
How can you become a suspect without any investigation? What do the police expect when you go sneaking up on people, on their own property, in the dark, late at night ? No warning, no lights. That training was pure evil " killing someone is not that bad"!??!
I honestly can't believe that the judges of the Eleventh Circuit could determine that it was okay for the police officer NOT to establish he was a cop at any point in complete darkness. What the f*ck is that??? So they give preference to the officer not "revealing" his position over the fact that the innocent citizen, who was in the safety of his home, had the right to know it was the police and not a random assailant. That's completely nuts.
Right!!! The constitution doesn't even call for having police at all. A "well-regulated militia" , volunteer, not paid by the government or controlled by the courts is what our founding fathers intended.
Something else I've said for a number of years that's fairly born out by that police training film: "The average LEO is not mentally stable enough to possess a firearm.
I have about zero respect for law enforcement at this point. We have uneducated cops running around with guns, we have the ATF murdering everyone in their way to send a message and the FBI and CIA setting up our President.
Another shooting, "Police officers repeatedly fired their guns at a New York City man who had called 911 during a mental health crisis as his mother and younger brother begged officers not to shoot. "