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Kaleido 3 Showdown | Onyx Tab Ultra C vs Bigme Inknote Color+ 

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This is a Kaleido 3 Showdown to end them all !
They ARE using the same screen, but the software is a little bit different.
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@ama-tu-an-ki
@ama-tu-an-ki Год назад
Thank you! Would love to see: - battery run times (6300 mAh vs 4000 mAh) -> does it translate to real-life difference - Wacom digitizer vs non-digitizer (for taking notes and drawing) -> big RL difference or not? - sdcard support : support for over 128GB sizes (1TB is now $100USD) -> sdcard difference in read /use speed (multi hundred megabyte DJVU/PDF files) - Making / exporting notes to epub (laboursome!) / PDF / DJVU - Viewing zooming coloured charts, graphs, diagrams (not photos, not videos, not manga) -> can they replace a TFT/LCD/AMOLED tablet for viewing technical documents, or does one still have to lug around iPad/Samsung Tab? You are the best channel on eBook Readers, thanks for all the content throughout the years. For many of your viewers, none of these devices are available locally for testing, so it's purely mail order blindly (based on your reviews) from abroad with plenty of extra costs + VAT + taxes.
@CC39
@CC39 Год назад
Tried both brands. Boox has done so much more in developing on software than Bigme, from features, usability; to refreshing algorithms and language supports. Bigme had been very ambiguous on adopting new hardware technology but Boox made the equilibrium so appropriately. I admire how strived Bigme had been and look forward to it catches up and be a positive competition.
@BrianHallmond
@BrianHallmond Год назад
Thanks for sharing this. I have a Boox mini C and just got this Bigme... I find the comic experience on the Boox is far superior. I want to return the Bigme now. I had high hopes.
@electrolove9538
@electrolove9538 Год назад
Peter your enthusiasm is infectious!
@KamalaChameleon
@KamalaChameleon 2 месяца назад
I'm getting close to watching 20 hours of e note videos trying to figure out what's for me.. I think the bigme with the white bezels, no camera bump is what I'm going with EDIT: I changed my mind again lol, now going with Note Air 3 C.. the bigme friction screen makes it blurry and it has ghosting problems and still a little buggy, which i do not want to deal with when capturing important ideas with notes
@SandorLau
@SandorLau 6 месяцев назад
Love your reviews. Thank you for so much quality effort.
@HashemRC
@HashemRC 3 месяца назад
Great comparisons, specially you mentioned their screen is exactly same. thanks.
@jub8891
@jub8891 Год назад
if regular eink has a maximum refresh count of a million refreshes until they start to degrade, are color einks also subject to those limitations?
@k1naderi868
@k1naderi868 Год назад
Is there screen protection you recommend for the Onyx Tab Ultra C that makes note-taking feel closer to Bigme or Remarkable?
@MrHappyZorro
@MrHappyZorro Год назад
I have the BigMe. They have been good about pushing updates. It's form factor has made it my go-to buddy work notetaking at work.
@learningcheme
@learningcheme 9 месяцев назад
How is your bigme device for watching videos? Does it heat if we watch videos for hours?
@MrHappyZorro
@MrHappyZorro 9 месяцев назад
@learningcheme I can watch videos? Gonna have to try that.
@learningcheme
@learningcheme 9 месяцев назад
@@MrHappyZorro please let me know if it heats if we watch RU-vid videos for more than hour or so. Thanks in advance
@SnickerSensei-e4t
@SnickerSensei-e4t Год назад
Wonder if the slight color difference is an optical illusion from the white Bessel. 😅
@kevinisawake
@kevinisawake Год назад
We need a SOFTWARE showdown for these two products.
@TheIdosimon
@TheIdosimon Год назад
I love the writing feeling and flatness of the remarkable 2 (which has replaced notebooks for me), however for me color and depth of notes are lacking. The bigme looks super attractive from that perspective (and also the app layouts), but the ultra c looks like it has better note taking in terms of shapes etc.. Which one would you recommend?
@baltgames1
@baltgames1 Год назад
Onyx is faster with less ghosting. It wasn't showed. But its fact.
@CC39
@CC39 Год назад
It's because of Onyx's panel refreshing algorithms.
@HebrewGreekKnowledge
@HebrewGreekKnowledge Год назад
Yeah its pretty sad but not surprising that they literally ignored the biggest difference between the devices.
@elevenjasion2
@elevenjasion2 Год назад
@@HebrewGreekKnowledge well goodereader kinda works with bigme to sell devices, of course they have to say nice things about bigme
@gurdeepgss
@gurdeepgss 4 месяца назад
in these e readers do you have functionality, where in you can open a large 1000 page pdf and write on it using the pencil?
@KarelGuzman-Lumetrics
@KarelGuzman-Lumetrics Год назад
Nice comparison, video; one question how about the battery life for the Ultra C?
@salilkumar7831
@salilkumar7831 Год назад
12 hrs continuous use
@khamisa.5384
@khamisa.5384 Год назад
Hope to see the comparison of speed and ghosting performance on these two devices in the next video. That is a thing many of the falks have been waiting for!
@dryiceliu6922
@dryiceliu6922 Год назад
Yeah me too. I’ve been eyeing the Bigme for it’s 4g support and non-bump 2 cameras , but couldn’t decide cause so many people saying it’s slower than boox. Thanks!
@鹰视传媒
@鹰视传媒 Год назад
@@dryiceliu6922 Me too, looking forward to comparing videos
@DarthSida
@DarthSida Год назад
I had both, and Bigme is slower than boox. Bigme has better performance in gradients (when you use 256HD) vs. boox, but boox has better ghosting management and is faster than bigme.
@vivvily
@vivvily Год назад
Does the cover neutralise the camera bump? My main use will be notetaking and the rocking camera bump seems like a pretty big problem...
@angal26
@angal26 Год назад
The camera bump on the Tab Ultra C looks so much less elegant compared to the Bigme. Bigme has shown that one can still have a camera (2 in fact) and not a bump..
@BrianHallmond
@BrianHallmond Год назад
I got a Boox Mini C last week. Got the Bigme inknote color plus today. For Comics I find the image and refresh ease of use on the Boox to absolutely crush the bigme. Which sucks, I had high hopes for the bigme with it's form factor and writtng feel. I hope I can return the Bigme. I mainly wanted the 10" display for comics. But I've grown to love comics on my Mini C anyway.
@JayneAFK
@JayneAFK Год назад
I've been looking at the Tab Mini C for the past week, and now it looks like the Bigme S6 Color+ has recently released, which - like the boox equivalent - also has a K3 screen. Bigme is about £70 cheaper than the boox, has 128gb internal storage and has expandable storage, but I'm very concerned about software. Boox seems much more polished and user friendly right now, and seems to have better screen refresh, handles colour out of the box better, etc. So I'm wondering, do you find the 64gb limit of the Boox Mini C to be problematic at all, or is it manageable? Would you say the boox mini c is worth the extra £70? Also been super tempted to just go all out with the boox tab ultra c, but that's eye wateringly expensive, especially as this will be my first purchase of a device of this type so idek know how much I'll enjoy it just yet lol.
@p.c.h.6721
@p.c.h.6721 Год назад
I would go for the Tab Ultra C, I think it’s worth the money and you won’t have to second guess if you have the best device in the market. I’m about to buy the Tab Ultra C after a week of research, it will be my first device of this kind.
@FemboyUwU88
@FemboyUwU88 Год назад
@@p.c.h.6721 I'm also about to buy Tab Ultra, but I'm hesitating about the screen surface. I've got an idea of buing e-ink tablet after touching my groupmate's Boox Note Air 2 Plus and was thinking of buying the same but decided the colors would really come in handy, however it is said that Tab Ultra does not have this paper-likeness which I find quite pleasing. Could you share your own expirience of screen interaction?
@p.c.h.6721
@p.c.h.6721 Год назад
@@FemboyUwU88 Hey, these are the issues that I have with the Tab Ultra C. No software updates, no security patches updates, so the device is not that safe (I guess even with that, it should be OK as long as you use a secure WiFi.) Maybe at some point they will have updates for the device, but I understand that these E-Readers are mainly built to read and write, no necessarily to go online, but that’s one of the main reasons why I want buy one (I haven’t pulled the trigger yet.) The screen is a bit dark, if you’re indoors chances are you’ll need to use the front light, which sucks the battery life, but I still think you’ll be able to use it for long periods of time without charging it (the regular Tab Ultra, no color, has a brighter front screen, so no need for the front light, therefore longer battery life, but I like to have Color.) Some people have reported that the Tab Ultra C has an edge that is a bit too sharp, so when you hold it with your fingers you can feel that sharp edge and it’s not nice, it won’t cut your fingers but it’s not nice (maybe some people have sensitive fingers,) but you can buy a protective cover for the edges in case you feel the same problem when you hold it with your fingers/hands. I’ve heard about the screen not having a great paper feel, but once you try it if you can’t get used to how it feels when you’re writing something, you can buy a screen protector that has a paper feeling when you write. I’ve seen a video of guy that bought that screen paper like protector and when he tested it he said that it felt great, so there is a solution for that problem just in case you don’t like the feel of it when you write on the screen. Other than these issues everything else seems perfect, for sure better than any other device on the market. I’m hesitating to be honest, should I buy it now or wait till next year when they hopefully improve or solve some of these issues.... I’ve just bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra, I could survive with the Samsung tablet for another year but I still need the Tab Ultra C so I can use both at the same time and save time. We will see, I like the Tab Ultra C a lot, finally they seem to have come up with an E-Reader, E-Note taking that you can also use to go online, and you can also use all the google play apps (I wouldn’t have considered buy one of these devices up to know. I like to read but I like books much better than reading on a screen.) Anyway, hope that help a little bit, none of those issues are dealbreakers imo.
@WayneMan88
@WayneMan88 Год назад
Does the GPU of the Boox make no realistic performance in real terms ?
@visualwriter
@visualwriter 6 месяцев назад
Amazing review super high quality.
@khamisa.5384
@khamisa.5384 Год назад
Great video indeed. Maybe they are the best colour E ink ereaders so far. But which one do you recommend more for the best reading experience?
@memori365
@memori365 Год назад
Will there still be a camera bump even if Ultra Tab C has a case? I’m getting close to getting Ultra Tab C. No rush though. If it goes out of stock then I’ll wait for a restock. I have Kobo Libra 2 but I also want to buy Kindle ebooks and epubs. The size (10.3 inches) seems to be just right for me. Not too big as the 12.9 iPad Pro (which I don’t want to use for reading) or smaller than Libra 2 (7 inches). It will be a bonus to have a paper-like writing experience. Otherwise, not an absolute deal breaker. I’m excited to spend more time reading than watching videos (except the ones I really like, like ereader reviews 😊). The price though. It’s more expensive in Canadian dollars 😅.
@slydog7131
@slydog7131 Год назад
The cases eliminate the camera bump.
@diepost0318
@diepost0318 Год назад
I dont know if its just me but I think the bigme has a lighter background
@saiksaikatai594
@saiksaikatai594 10 месяцев назад
is it good or bad?
@knowgrowwithdr.k4390
@knowgrowwithdr.k4390 Год назад
I can't figure out how to copy a page or a picture on Bigme other than exporting it! This is easily done on the Onyx boox with specific copy tab/function! Would you please comment on that? Thanks!
@DarthSida
@DarthSida Год назад
Thanks for the video, but you didnt show one of the most important differences between them and that is the speed of the devices in self and the ghosting performance in different modes (2gb nore ram in bigme vs dedicated gpu in Onyx). The reader I don't know why you still doesn't use the default one becaouse is the only one you can set a lot of thing and can change the whole experience reading in the device (refresh, ghosting, anotations, filters, library, etc...). The last thing to me the test you should be do with the recomended settings of the devices and not 0 in all because the calibrations of the screens is different, so the default settings or recommended settings should be better because is hiw the brand want you use the device.
@goodereader
@goodereader Год назад
Can't win Thank you :)
@DarthSida
@DarthSida Год назад
@Good e-Reader is not about that, are things you can do to improve in some test when you compare 2 different devices and specifically when those devices are similar and the software plays a big role 😉. I have the bigme and that's why I indicated the recommended settings because for what I can tell in the video the recommended settings in bigme is 2/100/0 and that gives you the "best image quality" or what the brand think is the best for they calibration. In Onyx is 30/0/0 for some reason, so I don't know how the vivid enchantment affects the default settings or things like that...any way, are only thoughts you can improve that's it 😉.
@kevinisawake
@kevinisawake Год назад
@@goodereader HAhahahaha - indeed. People always want more without noticing how much time it takes you to do all that. Good review.
@HebrewGreekKnowledge
@HebrewGreekKnowledge Год назад
Yes, Failing to talk about literally the most important and biggest difference between the two devices is definitely not a win.
@DarthSida
@DarthSida Год назад
@KevinIsAwake If you do a review but do not have enough time to talk about the real difference between them, then I don't know why you do the review vs. then...
@navidanwar6821
@navidanwar6821 Год назад
The e ink center window, menu should be smaller on onyx and even on bigme more smaller so the screen is visible behind for better settings preview
@nexcoyotlprograming8385
@nexcoyotlprograming8385 6 месяцев назад
Hi thanks for your post, great comparative. I have some due, can you tell me if onyx and Bigme devices are certificate by Google Play Protect? I think buy any of this devices. Thanks, regards.
@magdalenahansche6150
@magdalenahansche6150 Год назад
Ain't there a device with all Android, BT and GPS (for navigation)?
@sebsuch
@sebsuch Год назад
Howard about scan ?
@FelixGaunt
@FelixGaunt Год назад
The gradient is so much better on the Bigme.
@davidtetteh465
@davidtetteh465 Год назад
Good review, descerning viewers will be able to filter out the slight bias towards Bigme and make an informed decision.
@goodereader
@goodereader Год назад
We have no idea what you're talking about. There is no bias. We are not in bed with any company. Good e reader is its own entity and is not a partner of any other brand, nor are we sponsored by any brand
@thebuildreview
@thebuildreview Год назад
I purchased a Boox Tab Ulta C, it is indeed like many say going back to the 90's. For me the technology is still not mature enough and not usable as a daily business device. It's just too slow and the notes feature doesn't work with any other App. I personally would wait until this tech catches up with modern devices. I tried to return mine but Onyx were very difficult to deal with and kept on changeover the refined cost. I think I will wait for the technology to mature a lot more before considering this style of device again.
@goodereader
@goodereader Год назад
uhh okay there
@matthewscheid379
@matthewscheid379 Год назад
Battery test?
@lialkalo4093
@lialkalo4093 Год назад
I was thinking about getting a tablet for note-taking, like the remarkable2, note air plus 2, or the tab ultra c. and this video was definitely good to see how some of these e-readers/note-tablets compare against each other. however, I just looked up the prices of the two tablets you are featuring here and I wonder, if these things are even worth it. could you comment on why one should/could choose a device like the bigme (or the tab ultra c) over a "real" tablet like the samsung galaxy tab s8? since they are in a similar price range (~$600-700), I don't see why the tab s8 should be inferior.
@MarianoPerez
@MarianoPerez Год назад
I had a similar question but between an ereader and an ipad mini. I read a lot so for me the ereader was better because it was less strain on my eyes and the battery life. However, I do have an s8 tab ultra and it so good and fast for multi tasking that I wouldn't trade it for these devices. The writing experience on the s8 is amazing too. I'd only consider these devices if your eyes need the rest or if you'll use them primarily or exclusively for writing.
@p.c.h.6721
@p.c.h.6721 Год назад
@@MarianoPerez I have a Samsung Tab S9 Ultra and it’s so good, BUT I’m still going to buy the Tab Ultra C so I can use both right next to each other, and as you very well mentioned I will use the Tab Ultra C mainly to read & write, keep notes, scan documents, I love how portable they are....
@hertzh
@hertzh Год назад
Thanks
@Bb4na
@Bb4na Год назад
But the prices differ! Why not speak about that?
@goodereader
@goodereader Год назад
Because they're made from different companies
@Bb4na
@Bb4na Год назад
@Good e-Reader I knew that already. So we should go for the Onyx being they are nearly identical devices. There are no perks for the extra $100 on Bigme.
@kevinisawake
@kevinisawake Год назад
@@Bb4na Just buy the cheaper version. The stylus on Bigme looks better with the buttons tho.
@khamisa.5384
@khamisa.5384 Год назад
Should Bigme consider lowering the price after competitive Onyx showed they are offering the same quality for a less price
@sayakahc
@sayakahc 11 месяцев назад
Hi! Does Bigme inknote color + works with general Wacom pen when taking a note? Thank you.
@goodereader
@goodereader 11 месяцев назад
Yes
@sayakahc
@sayakahc 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much. Have a wonderful day!
@simongordon8182
@simongordon8182 Год назад
Seems like you’re saying that boox adding the gpu and having 4g not 6g or memory means it’s not better on screen performance…
@goodereader
@goodereader Год назад
Unless you have these things under a microscope.. to the average person, and the fair weather enthusiast.. these are the exact same things They perform identically, look identical, and do the same things with the same amount of functionality
@dittdattdott
@dittdattdott Год назад
@@goodereader From what I've checked myself, the Tab Ultra C uses a Snapdragon 665 with an Adreno 610 while the Inknote Color+ uses a Helio P35. The Snapdragon 665 has almost double the performance of the Helio P35 so saying the performance is the same is simplifying it too much, no?
@rokko_fable
@rokko_fable Год назад
@@dittdattdott this is the info I was hoping to find. It's so difficult to find what SOC these e-ink devices run! the marketing is purposefully obtuse and vague in this regard.
@luisim554
@luisim554 Год назад
​@@dittdattdott so in this case the Onyx tablet is superior in power, right? Compared to Kaleido 3
@navidanwar6821
@navidanwar6821 Год назад
Hmm Nice review Bigme ... stylus is nice, writing feel is nice, hd265 with smooth gradient wins UI ... I dunno Other than that onyx is also good
@RenaissanceEarCandy
@RenaissanceEarCandy 4 месяца назад
Bigme sounds almost exactly like bigamy, the act of being married to two people at once. What on earth were they thinking?
@goodereader
@goodereader 4 месяца назад
uhh, no it doesnt. "Bigg-mee" BIG and then ME. -_-
@ABONE-OL748
@ABONE-OL748 Год назад
Bigme looks whiter, onyx looks greyer
@rush48192
@rush48192 Год назад
Yeah if you like writing on an ipad buy the ipad
@GyariSan1
@GyariSan1 Год назад
I'll grab one when they figure out a way to saturate the washed out colours
@deniskarasev8023
@deniskarasev8023 Год назад
they did, it's called The Galy😀😀
@goodereader
@goodereader Год назад
Correct, which we actually made ourselves in collaboration with bigme
@rommelhyper3545
@rommelhyper3545 Год назад
very close game, but Onyx has the edge on the richer colors, bigme looks washed out a little. but a great comparison anyway.
@bovineox1111
@bovineox1111 Год назад
Woah, woah, woah.... You used a neutral stylus and not the ones that are designed for the device???? I think that's bogus. I appreciate other styluses should be compatible but you're now testing how that stylus works with these devices which could be very different.
@goodereader
@goodereader Год назад
You're a little bit uninformed, the internals of the pen are the exact same thing purchased from the exact same place. All pens are purchased from Wacom Just like all the screens are purchased from eink And the tips are the exact same things from Wacom So no, it is not "bogus" and there is no "compatibility" issue. Thanks
@kevinisawake
@kevinisawake Год назад
@@goodereader You are Correct - however a comparison of the actual Styluses would have been nice since they are very different in features before removing them from the test and using a neutral stylus for fairness.
@saiksaikatai594
@saiksaikatai594 10 месяцев назад
@@kevinisawake you both have good points. my question, can we use the bigme stylus on the boox ultra C pro screen?
@macusermdm
@macusermdm Год назад
I have a hard time viewing anything said here as unbiased
@goodereader
@goodereader Год назад
but it is unbiased. I have no idea why you would think either one had anything to do with us
@nxel2
@nxel2 Год назад
Wrd are you talking dude? Just bec you've a thing going with bigme don't try to fool people. Onyx screen looks better, we can see it.
@goodereader
@goodereader Год назад
We do not have a thing going with big me. No one pays us for reviews And we've been in the industry for 14 years and have handled nearly a thousand devices Thank you
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