Kanbei VS Colin - Who Is BETTER?? 

Colin Vs Sensei?

I would actually like to see Flak/Jugger vs Nell one day, I don't think there's that many luck matchs with the GMs

Drake Vs Drake

I would love to see how Kindle and Kanbei destroy low tier Cos in unfair matches where the broken co has the advantage.

Hachi vs Colin. It would be interesting to see grandmasters utilizing Colin's day to day and power to the fullest and tech up against Hachi.

an excellent point.

in advance wars 2 gba I put the 2 vs on a versatile map and Colin won, the battle was without fog of war, Colin played on top of the skill and won...

As mentioned elsewhere in comments, if the top/mid/bot lanes were separated by terrain (and/or the fronts are spread out), the matchup swings the other direction. Colins air units outmaneuver the anti-airs of kanbei and he can't afford to build fighters. Also, Colin snowballs - if he wasn't pressured (like he was in this open center map) you'll see the deadly DOUBLE gold rush! It would make that 60k buy he had this game look like chump change =P

It depends on the map, in a constant clash on a small map no way colin can beat a wall. On a larger map colin would win just due to spam spam spam spam and making walls is difficult.

Infantry potentially KOing each other on roads/bridges/shoals and maybe almost on plains 😂

​@@Jamieboi1989"Infantry, attack! ... Did we win?" "Well, sir, the enemy is dead, but-" "Good enough!" _snarfs donuts_

An early spam of Medium Tanks or Neotanks still get bodied by Kanbei’s Infantry wall plus Artillery firepower.

Pushing early is exactly what Colin doesn’t want to do since his strength comes from building up a huge amount of funds and using his power to sustain an endless wave of bombers and mega tanks

Why not bring Kanbei D2D down to AWDS level so he gets played more

@@rebeccasheng620 or bump him down to 25/25 (or 20/30 or 30/20) at least, admittedly I love 30/30 kanbei

Colin never really _snowballed_ his power. I think that was a critical mistake. Colin should have been able to save up significant amounts of money and start multiplying his money exponentially, to the point where he doesn't need any cities at all to get his megatank+bomber spam going.

More moving parts for Colin players means more moving parts for the opposing CO except they don't get to choose the flow of the game. Colin can lock most units down by surrounding them with cheap units. I rarely play Colin but he's actually a very user friendly CO offering much more flexibility since pretty much nothing is absolutely essential when the horde is moving behind it

​@@incredibleflameboy Not specifically talking about the board state but rather the ability to capitalize on the CO abilities. Colin needs to account for not having two-shots that most COs take for granted. He has to build more units like MD Tanks, Rockets, and Mega Tanks that a player might not be as used to using, on top of his Gold Rush reinforcements needing a couple turns to reach the front line. And his Gold Rush he needs to decide between "save up" or "pop it now" as opposed to Samurai Spirit which is just "Do I want to be untouchable this turn?" Colin is still broken as hell but for the habits that a lot of the high level players have built up he requires more shifts in play style than just the increased deployment cost. It's like how in Tier 2, Olaf is just a normal CO to play while everyone else requires working around the CO's unique play style, and when going up against Olaf they need to take the snow into account. Even if you think Max or Eagle are more broken than Olaf, there is the benefit that in Tier 2 matchups, Olaf players don't need to account for their own CO's powers or weaknesses and just rely on fundamentals. Less stuff on the mental stack.

You could say that about pretty much any player...

@@ultimategamer2669 True

I would personally take that trade every day as Kanbei. Colin spending 12K to earn 19K, and thats all his power gets to do that turn. Like his power was basically turning a md tank in the center of the map into a neotank back in his base.

@@linguotgr Not even 19k... the saved money only increased the effect by 10k.

"hes trying to bait the master baiter"

The master baiter Deejus!

Kanbei believes that saving money is buying the best. I cannot disagree with his results.

I wonder if Stealths would change that?

the irony is that most think Kanbei is the Goliath, when its Colin sending giants against tiny men... and losing.

Great!

Honestly, nobody's as broken as Hachi.

in high funds Kanbei gets to tech up earlier too, might be even worse for Colin.

@@mauricesteel4995 you have a point. But idk, with higher funds, faster access to expensive units and better gold rushes? Well, maybe in another match we could see that

@@mauricesteel4995 Colin would murder Kanbei in high funds. His Gold Rush becomes insane and he can even pop Power of Money to get like +300% firepower.

Kanbei weakness is easier to exploit in HF which is why kanbei is no longer T0 there. There’s a awbw hf replay with mangs as kanbei vs kindle where atrueboss explain kanbei weakness in HF (still T1 but not T0)

@@bienhy5120 Kindle's Urban Blight also favors her vs Kanbei, because he, of all COs wants to be in cities the most to abuse his superior defenses, and Urban Blight screws him over very hard, weakening his units harder than a Colin Bomber bought with Gold Rush, i do wonder if Kanbei gets screwed harder by Global Damage, since it makes his units easier to take out (still hard, his base 130% defense doesn't rely on HP).

Someone likes canto! Sadly it would be incredibly broken. There would have to be some significant drawbacks to make it balanced. Right now you can build infantry lines because only 1 melee unit can hit another - with canto you can get up to 2 attacks in, with the 2nd delivering the deathblow, thus breaking the line. (ex inf vs inf 10/10 -> 8/5. Canto back, 2nd inf vs inf 10/5 -> 10/0) This isn't even mentioning air units and indirects having it...

It's actually the other way around - colin prefers high income and low base count and kanbei prefers low income and high base count. Think of kanbei like the best infantry CO and things will make a lot more sense to you (sami has the same pref for example)

On his new-year video, he talked about AWBW 2.0, so I think we'll also get MWBW too, who knows?

precisely. If colin got his power of money like he was banking on he would have had like 30k that turn. instead he pops it next turn after all those repairs and after his properties had been captured. if he had popped instead of resigned, he would have ended up with more like 24k, and a much worse position.

@@stijnl Honestly I’m barely making my way up above the default 800, so not great, but it’s partly cause I play alot of customs. Collin vs kanbei in particular is a matchup I enjoy, with jugger mirror being a close second. Also what mangs said about repairs is only half true. I find that repairing anything bigger than a rocket is useless, and you never wanna waste an airport turn on healing. However small units like your rockets or your infantry should be kept topped up whenever you can. Collin’s weakness is unit count, so maintaining them is key. The end goal as Collin is to have enough cash to pump out a bomber & three rockets every turn and still have a net profit when you gold rush. 90% of games end before you reach it, but that’s your win condition if it goes to stalemate. Kanbei’s win condition is to have a single neotank (supported by alot of AA) before your rocket count can deal with it.

@@stijnl kanbei side of things is one I know alot less. Regular ol’ tankspam is what I find to be the thing I struggle with most. Though AA are also scary because collin relies on his extra base (air) to keep up in unit count, and they can chew up collin’s troops just as well as they do air. If kanbei can get a fighter out (which is usually a bad move because it’s just as expensive as the win button neotank, but sometimes Kanbei doesn’t have enough AA to support a neo if I’ve been dilligent about killing it. It’s literally impossible to deal with and bring down unless he plays very dumb (it can dive a missile and not really care.) Kanbei’s indirects are also fearsome, but are too expensive for him to reasonably deploy more than a couple. They make great support but he shouldn’t try to win the indirect war, because he can’t. His entire side of things is to play reserved and then yeet through every opening and chew up the juicy rockets. If he breaks collin’s lines and reaches the rockets during a samurai spirit, it’s usually over, even if collin is in endgame mode and pumping out rockets and megas every turn from every base.

Kanbei wins because he basically wins all confrontations where he isn't in overwhelming disadvantage just by being too sturdy. he requires at minimal double effort to take down a single unit of his, almost if not all natural oneshots in the game don't work on Kanbei, so to remove one unit of his you must spend at minimun 2 actions, while he has access to a lot of oneshots other CO's don't. and due to his already high base defense, and the way defense scales on AW2, he benefits the most from terrain than any other CO (that includes Lash, a paltry 10% firepower per star doesn't compare at all).

@@mauricesteel4995 yea i know that bro but i still apprecieate that I was just mentioning that special sentence of Kanbei in Advance Wars 1

That's why it's good to watch before commenting. The match went the exact opposite as what you described.

@@marcmckenzie609 It's actually the fun part of giving thoughts before watching matches. Having player skill proving me wrong is always interesting!

"I am a Kanbei main" has the same energy as "The Cobra is my favorite unit in AOE II."

@@generalbitter6660 "The Cobra" is a cheat unit that can only be adquired by typing a cheating. but Kanbei isn't a cheat, its more like saying you're a Meta Knight Main in Smash Brawl. or i main Rugal in KoF.(Broken characters that are on the character select screen)

@@mauricesteel4995 Thank you.

@@Klokinator in his defense, both are using Cobra Cars. Edit: or rather, one is using resource cheats while the other is using cobra cars.

In HF, kanbei need more base (better mixed) to get the edge over Colin. Many inexperienced colin don’t know how to deal vs kanbei but it’s also true for many people and with a lot of base, it discourage opponent to tech up especially in mix base. Well, the moment the enemy try to fight on equal unit vs kanbei, he’s always bound to lose regardless the CO he pick unless it’s another kanbei. Tech up unit is a must

They're waiting for the war in Ukraine to end.

@@Mangs1337 I guess that makes sense, but by my count from Wikipedia (counting all the War on Terror stuff as one war) there were 14 wars going on across the world when the first two games were originally released, including several in the same region. Seems kind of hypocritical for them to make a point about it now.

@@Pink.andahalf PR stuff, it doesn't need to make logical sense, just narrative sense.