It is utterly bonkers that this jury were not polled by the Judge. The Judge is a disaster and its scandalous that she has allowed a trial to unfold like this.
Unbelievable the amount of corruption that’s been exposed by this arrest, prosecution, and trial. From the lead MSP investigator who clearly was biased, lied, and unprofessional; to the now suspended Canton Police Officer related to the homeowner involved and exposed by the MSP investigator; to the prosecutors who apparently knew in advance of much of the exculpatory evidence presented by the defense and either covered it up or ignored it; to the Court and Judge who couldn’t or chose to deliver an improper jury form, to the clear bias of the Judge throughout the trial. Kudos to Read’s attorneys for exposing this unbelievable corruption…❗️
Plus the unconvincing, we will not tolerate this type of behavior from the head of the Massachusetts state police. He was so insincere he didn’t mean a word of what he was saying.
She continued to make a fool of herself...even speaking to Karen directly, and then being rude to Karen. Judge should have apologized to Karen in front of everyone
I think it was more than incompetence. It was deliberate. The original jury form with only one NOT GUILTY. The jury instruction to only complete the form once they reach a verdict on ALL charges. Very deliberate.
And when she got snotty with KR when she laughed like "is this a joke" because judge assumed yanetti saw a form like that one and he said no and she chuckled AND THEN she came back and made the changes which show her EGO almost didnt let the form get fixed. She was the worst with her huffing and puffing and letting lally get away with everything while sustaining lallys objections against Jackson. Disgrace to justice and poor Okeefes brother still thinks she did it. He is dense
The judge told the jury the COULDN'T fill out the form until they reached a unanimous verdict on all the charges. And that her verbal instructions should be followed over the written ones
Even if I was an O'Keefe family member and believed Read to be guilty, I would be furious with the investigation and certainly wouldn't be friendly with those responsible for such an unprofessional mess. That's what's so baffling...the support the O'Keefe family is giving to those who have ultimately made this mess.
If it was a member of my family I’d be going crazy over the state of the investigation if you can even call it that but the cw let them down with this sham of a trial
A more competent fair minded judge could have negated all of this current chaos. The judge behaved as if she had utter contempt for the defendant and her lawyers…and she might as well have been seated with the prosecutors.
Why did Karen call her daddy, about a half hour after she got back to John's house?!? I'm near to her age, a bit older, and I would never wake my parents up, just to chat about a so-called fight with my boyfriend!! Lol smh. C'mon ppl. I'd call my dad in the middle of the night if something happened and I needed help or advice!!!! She called him first around 1:30 am, then later about 3:15 am. So her saying she waited for John, and fell asleep til 4:30 am was a Lie!! Actually, it may have been 3x calls to her dad. I know 2x for sure!!! And why did she ask Kerry if John was Dead, or hit by plow at 5am on phone? Her niece said she said same thing, and they were not on same convo. Kaylee (John's niece) was talking to Jen at same time. And if Karen already drove around at 5am, why didn't she go right to the Albert's door and bang on it??! Because she wanted to come back with Kerry and Jen, as witnesses!! Plus, how did Karen see John so damn fast in the dark, and the 2 in front looked same way, and could not see anything and they were closer to front lights?! To me, that means she probably knew area where he was.
@@KristieMAC1 a phone call to daddy is no smoking gun. All the evidence was tainted by the atrocious conduct of this whole police department. I do do not presume to guess what happenned to the poor victim but I would never convict a person on the basis of such flawed investigation. It is not even a shadow of a doubt we are talking about. The doubt is a freaking elephant in the courtroom prosecution pretended not to see.
a phone call to daddy is no smoking gun. All the evidence was tainted by the atrocious conduct of this whole police department. I do do not presume to guess what happenned to the poor victim but I would never convict a person on the basis of such flawed investigation. It is not even a shadow of a doubt we are talking about. The doubt is a freaking elephant in the courtroom prosecution pretended not to see.
The judge is not required to poll the jury. The note that Judge Cannone received from the jury was adamant that they were deadlocked. If either side had a problem with the verdict, they could ask that the jury be polled. Her attorneys didn't ask, so this shouldn't fall on the judge.
Yes, and if she would have read each of the charges and what the jury decided, then it would have become part of the public record and the way that the judge did it, it could NOT become part of the public record 🤬
@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0 Jen, the dominos are falling for your mcalbert gang. Instead of trolling online, if I were you I'd start packing my bags and flee to a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the U.S. would you like me to name them? The FBI will be at your doors soon. Run jen McTooth, run !!
Jackson didn’t like the way that form was handled and brought it up to the judge before deliberations. She was so arrogant and such a know it all and said that’s the way we’ve always done it. She finally did do a little something to correct it. Obviously not enough. I understand that she likes running her own little fiefdom. She hated it that two VERY smart attorneys came in and upset her little apple cart!!!
I agree. And just because somethings always done a certain way doesn't make it right. This is a court of law for crying out loud, change it. Also I'd be interested to know how often that particular type of jury slip has been used.
This is on the court. Jury instructions were not sufficient, and if you rewatch she declared mistrial and dismissed the jury within literal seconds (maybe two minutes?) after bringing them in the last time. She also did not hear either the prosecution or the defense on the decision. She errored. She needs to own it and fix it.
I did note that at the time it was like this judge couldn't get that jury out of there fast enough. As a juror on one criminal trial I watched the judge do just like Bev in trying to keep evidence out and shut down the defense, when she pulled that stuff the first time my radar came up that something was very wrong he was a poor guy with just an attorney not a criminal attorney but she tried every witch way to get the evidence in that he was not guilty, in spite of the judge and the Barracuda prosecution in the end we also hung 10 to 2 For not guilty. The fact is you are on some of these juries and some of the members just are not capable of critical thinking or connecting dot one to. 2, they vote for their personal prejudices and bigotries
@@j.c.7555 sure, they should. But ultimately it falls on the court to ensure the defendant gets a fair and just trial and that jurors are able to accomplish their duties. There’s no place in the jury instructions that specifies what to do in this situation, and the jury had no indication that the mistrial would be declared after the Tuey-Rodriguez charge so… it’s on Cannone.
@@j.c.7555 I have to tell you that most people are not bold enough to ask questions they just stay quiet, and apparently they didn't have someone who would push the issue leaving it to the foreman who didn't
Auntie judge was trying to sweep the innocent verdicts under the rug. She related to the Alberts how could she even preside over this case. The judges action are criminal
Aunt Bevs brother is a lawyer that defined Jevin Albert I. A muder/manslaughter case and obviously he got off easy and is still a cop! Paul, John's asshole brother that's covering with the enemy got off on a DUI that paralyzed someone in the process of his drunk accident thanks to Karen hiring and paying for Paul's lawyer!! What a bunchof unloyal ignorant scumbags!!!!!
If you watched the trial the way judge Bev called the jury was fast and confusing because she also ignored the second note was not clear about the charges and she denied almost every thing defense requested
@@bettycattk5298Chances are you would encounter a cop driving under the influence who would then stop and accuse you of driving while being an outsider. Absolutely not worth it.
Bev’s instructions to jury made them think they could not fill in anything if they couldn’t be unanimous on all 3 charges. They thought she would ask them about it she didn’t. It is normal practice for the judge to ask clarifying questions about which of the 3 charges or all of them!! She didn’t
@bethmccrae2714 they probably said the judge would ask. You know, like she was supposed to. I was on a hung jury before and we were asked. Several times.
@@bethmccrae2714 How do you know what their occupations are? Regardless, their are all types of attorneys across the board, not just criminal law, eg property, corporate, sports, divirce etc etc etc, so it doesnt man alot here, also there have been many lawyers speak out and say that even they found the form confusing and a struggle to navigate.
The judge runs the courtroom…judge Bev dropped the ball and the normal procedure, but according to judge Bev stated numerous times…”In Massachusetts this is how it has been and is done” tsk tsk
Who doesn't strongly suspect the judge purposely misled the jury? Specifically, that their verdict had to be on all charges or none. Either that or she only partially shared what they did submit in terms of the note or jury slip if there was one That's why she dismissed them so abruptly, so that neither they nor anyone else could question anything. What was it she said? After reading the note saying further deliberations would be futile and cause them to go against their deeply held moral convictions. "I'm not going to do that to you. Your service is complete. I'm declaring a mistrial." ALL IN ONE BREATH. She didn't ask if either side would like the jury to be polled. Nor did she pause, even for a split second, ensuring that no objection could be raised. Instead of thanking them for their service, yadda yadda - She quickly got them out of the room saying, "I'll be in to speak with you privately in a few moments." or words to that effect.
@@bethmccrae2714 We all watched the trial and the judge’s behavior. Cutting off the defense mid swing, asking ‘do you want to object Mr Lally’, some questionable ‘sustained’s and it goes on. The bias was so evident to the world jury watching. If the Feds found John wasn’t hit by a vehicle then this investigation will go on. There never was a case to try
There never was a case to try against Karen Read but there’s a murder victim and a group of liars with a lead organizer that need to go on trial. Will Judge Cannone preside on that one?
Thinking back to how the original verdict sheet was set up with no NOT GUILTY on the two lesser charges, it's almost as if the judge wanted to make sure this wouldn't happen. Also, having listened to jury instructions again, she SPECIFICALLY told them that they had to reach a verdict on ALL charges before completing the jury form. Don't try and blame Jackson. This is 100% on the judge.
Ridiculous. There were two attorneys and one retired law enforcement on this jury. If everyone agreed to acquit the killer , they would have told the judge
@@user-ii2uh1xq7b the judge was under a legal obligation to poll the jury as to it’s understanding and disposition on the individual charges. She failed to carry out this duty. While I’d love to speculate as to the why, it frankly doesn’t matter. In failing to carry out a simple, routine, normal and legislatively required part of her job she has denied the defendant in this case her full legal protections under MA law. In this case the Judge didn’t poll the jury to ensure the charges were understood, or to determine if any verdicts were unanimous. She also acted too quickly to allow the defense ask for such a poll. (Applicable to jury trials in District Court and Superior Court) (a) Return. The verdict shall be unanimous. It shall be a general verdict returned by the jury to the judge in open court. The jury shall file a verdict slip with the clerk upon the return of the verdict. (b) Several Offenses or Defendants. If there are two or more offenses or defendants tried together, the jury may with the consent of the judge at any time during its deliberations return or be required by the judge to return a verdict or verdicts with respect to the defendants or charges as to which a verdict has been reached; and thereafter the jury may in the discretion of the judge resume deliberation. The judge may declare a mistrial as to any charges upon which the jury cannot agree upon a verdict; provided, however, that the judge may first require the jury to return verdicts on those charges upon which the jury can agree and direct that such verdicts be received and recorded. (c) Special Questions. The trial judge may submit special questions to the jury. (d) Poll of Jury. When a verdict is returned and before the verdict is recorded, the jury may be polled in the discretion of the judge. If after the poll there is not a unanimous concurrence, the jury may be directed to retire for further deliberations or may be discharged.
She showed bias at every interaction with the attourneys, she didn't review the form that has to be done, in front of the jury...since it was completed she should have sent them back and have the foreman complete it. If they had a question about the form, there is someone to help them...
@@joannefeeney5792 yes biased for the defense. She basically let Jackson run the show , badger witnesses, she should have stopped that it was disgraceful,
The defense shouldn't have had to object to get the poll of the jury! The JUDGE should have asked as EVERY other judge does!! She needs to be held accountable for this
Simple Question….”What are you stuck on?” Isn’t this something simple that Bev should of asked the jurors????? 😳 What does she actually do besides huff and puff?
I think auntie Bev should be held responsible for that. She probably did it because she doesn’t like Karen. I think she should have some kind of reprimand something something has to happen. Maybe she needs to go home and rest for a year or two
Why should all this happen to the judge because she clearly sees through Karen Read and her attorneys, O sorry she is corrupt now how convinced to call her that, don’t be mad cause it wasn’t a win win for her DUI manslaughter to the full extent of the law, commissary in prison are owned by theO’Keefe so good luck trying to get your personal needs but your bed roll with your F-# is awaiting the inmates will suck up Daddy’s money she will be someone’s cash cow, she will be afraid cause they will be thirsty waiting on who will have her first.
The Judge’s verbal instructions to the jury told them to turn in the verdict form when you reached unanimous decision. No message about split verdicts. This is on the Judge.
Was it normal protocol for judge to choose foreperson? Because foreperson did not indicate in note to judge that the jury was only hung on 2nd separate charge. Seems suspect!
Sounds like Aunt Bev made the decision that if the jury wasn't going to come to a guilty verdict on at least one of the counts then she wasn't going to allow them to give a not guilty verdict on any of them either, thus she declared a mistrial. That's it in a nutshell.
I think thats what it was designed for. I'd like to know how often they use that particular form/slip. In a world of law, things can and are always improved.
I heard that when three jurors were chosen to be removed, defense asked to see all lottery numbers in bucket (arranged by state police). Is it true this was requested and denied? Since not guilty jurors were said to have been removed, was it ensured that the process of choosing was Fair?
Canton select board…interesting members Mr Doody (Katherine Doody was at Albert residence that night), Mr. Chris Albert (His son Colin was at Alberts residence that night)..Mr Laughlin (his brother Lucky Laughlin plowed the street of Alberts residence that night)…talk about spider web connections.
I watched a lot of that trial and truly that judge was so biased and incompetent and clearly in favor of the prosecution winning their case. A different judge would have never allowed this to even come to trial it was that compromised an investigation that they shouldn't have been able to get in a courtroom
The DA would be foolish to re-try this case, at least with the same charges. I feel that the judge wanted a mistrial because, like everyone else with half a brain could see where it was heading..Not Guilty!..
@@user-ii2uh1xq7b Alec Baldwin case got dismissed immediately for evidence procedure misstep and the prosecutor calling AB inappropriate names. Karen Read case had both these too, yet it continued until the end.
@@wilson4180 karen killed john out of malice, alec made a mistake not knowing there were bullets in the gun, she knew her suv would kill john apples and oranges brp keep it real
@@user-ii2uh1xq7b it doesn’t matter if she killed 3 babies and a nun with malicious intent or not.. the judicial procedure was violated, yet allowed to continue.
The level of corruption if off the charts from the cops to the judge herself. This case will spark a major overhaul in the judicial system for sure. Sit back and enjoy people.
@@user-ii2uh1xq7b I think you mean to use the term 'hit and run'. Honestly that's not even the issue with your comment. I'm all for people having their own opinions and perspective on things, that's very important for a dynamic society. However, the details (or lack thereof) the CW tried to lay out defy realistic possibilities. There is no way the multiple scenarios LE concocted led to chain of events that Karen had anything directly, to do with John's death. It was proven scientifically impossible for a car to cause the scene and damages left in front of 34 Fairview
CANTON PD CORRUPTION FROM TOP TO BOTTOM! AFTER PROCTOR THERE WILL BE MORE. FIRED NO ADMIN TIME OFF. Proctor’s on their front lawn “I support my husband”….YOU DO NOW 🤣
Everybody is involved. People are now saying John's brother Paul is responsible or involved somehow. It's ridiculous. Stop making stuff up that you have no evidence of.
This is case is a great example of why we need DEI. Look at how many incompetent people are in positions of profound power due to their know-a-guy-isms.
Right DEI diversity works great in pro women’s basketball WNBA 🤡 Caitlyn Clark is a prime example she can feel the love from the cheap shots and being slammed on the court ie. From all the diversity 🤡 And being screwed out of team USA squad 🤡 Cuz u know equity equality inclusion 🤡
@@Usernotfound31231 Yeah diversity is so appreciated especially in women’s pro basketball WNBA just ask rookie Caitlyn Clark who receives cheap shots one after another and slammed to the floor … yeah the other side really appreciates diversity 🤡 Equity and equality 🤡 DEI will fix it all 😮💨
Judge Bev said to not fill out any of the counts, until they come back unanimous on all counts? Why did she instruct that? instead, if they found her unanimous, on any count, fill it out and move onto the next! That seems more appropriate! It was the verdict form instructions & too much legalese that confused them! It was all judge Bev’s fault! Just make it simple!
How about Karen’s losses in her life and career? It’s time people responsible for John’s death. You can’t get away for doing Pure Evil to another person, how dare all of them. Truth always prevails and Karen had no chance until hired the big guys. This should have never occurred and waste everyone’s time and money. Go after the liars
I feel the same way. There should be a law that a defendant could press charges against the DA/Investigators for bringing this sloppy case against her….She’s Not Guilty but….Loses Job, Loses Reputation, Loses Money (million dollar defense), Embarrassed about her medical issues, etc., etc. ! It’s horrible what these 💩 bags have done to her.
The board didn't stop the albert supporters from applauding his "appology" statement, but instantly cut off those clapping in the 1st response to their questions at the Select Board meetings for months!
Our he was speaking about count 2, and the multiple lesser charges. The fact that we have to guess even on the plurality of a word in the note seems to require the court to question all the jurrors on the entirety of verdict confusion.
I never thought her behavior rose to blatant bias. She acted within her discretion. But this is gross incompetence and the first question I asked - what was the split? They hung on all charges?? HOW could the judge not ask this?? If the jurors did vote that way the charges should be dismissed with prejudice AND expunged.
Judge Canonne would have said what she said previously " This how its done in Massachusetts " and the way she was rude to the defense when they just wanted clarification on the verdict form even asked Karen Read " Is something funny Miss Read " she was actually downright aggressively rude.
It couldn’t and shouldn’t be up to the jury!!! The jurors doesn’t know law and don’t know what or how to do. The defense or the prosecutor didn’t have the right to pull the jury. They further are prohibited from contacting any of the jurors. The court, meaning the judge has the full responsibility here. The judge are responsible for instructing the jury so that there are no misunderstandings. The judge has the responsibility to check that every has understood. The judge has the responsibility to double check that the jury has filled out the slips as they should, if they have verdicts on one or several counts. If you are going to rely on the jury system. These are basic things that must be part of every court process. This is exactly serious!! This case has been a catastrophe ever since day one, and the catastrophes keep appearing. So thankful to be living in a country where we don’t have the jury system because this case shows exactly how bad this system is.
You cannot leave the scene of a crash when the FBI requested, unbiased, scientific evidence shows there was never a crash. Therefore she is innocent on all charges.
This happened in Judge Canone’s court. She was exasperated by simple questions and was always hurrying everyone but Lally along. Why didn’t they judge ask these questions?
I don't understand why, after they found out there was no evidence to prove she ever hit him, they didn't drop the charges. Prepare for another hung jury or acquittal next time.
Naw, it's Brian Higgins, Colin Albert and Brian Albert that are responsible. I think it was a physical altercation. JO fell backward hitting his head on the gym equip in the Alberts basement. That's when the dog attacked JO. Where was the dog when Jenn McCabe came bursting into Brian and Nicole's bedroom where Chloe sleeps?..why wasn't Chloe barking with all the noise going on outside?..why didn't Jenn know where Chloe was when she bust in?..any dog wouldve reacted to all of it going on. I think their daughter took Chloe with her when she left since she was the last one to leave..Chloe was re-homed 2 months later to another state..
@@rebeccaswift7588 I believe that also I don’t believe they re-home there dog that dog is with them 🙄in there new house 🏡 such liars they are who can trust anything that come from them
I doubt anything will be done with the jurors speaking out. No verdict was given. They didnt sign the verdict forms and turn it in. Its over. Im curious as to what the judges reaction or action will be if any..
Can't find her guilty for dropping him off can they, as dumb as they are might try lol hopefully she can just get back to her life and not deal with bs
I feel terrible for John O’keef’s parents. They seem to be very nice people. He was very cute. BUT there was obviously a big class difference between them and those “ friends” that they were drinking with that night. The “mock” boxing in that bar was too much!!! I have never seen grown men doing that. Children are really hitting each other if they are doing something like that. They are creeps. Higgins and the woman with the crooked tooth are perfect examples of who not to have in your life. Their testimony said everything!!!
@@MaureenODonovan haha look an Albert friends are here the dumbbells hos long have you had the evidence, ha ha can you prove with you shady canton corrupt people guilty we all know who and involved you the Alberts your dogs I point finger like you I can tell a story and your believe it I know you very gullible people today brainwashed
