Katy Perry's Lawsuit - A Travesty For Songwriters 

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Funny, I was just thinking about the utility of anti-plagiarism software and weather I could effectively author a program given my knowledge of theory, really lack thereof. Potential issues would be regional vs. international legal standards, potential liability in each context, input format(notation, MIDI, etc.), and platform. In regard to platform, aside from the OSes (desktop, mobile app, or web), consideration for plugins or extensions for DAWs might be desirable, but the caveat is each is not language independent and would need to be re-written for each ecosystem. Would you potentially be interested in collaborating or at least helping to develop specifications to determine scope and feasibility? Authoring software can be a lengthy process and while I see a lot of places where bottlenecks could occur, I also think the core code would be reusable and could be a base from which other projects could be built. If you are interested, we should relocate this discussion.

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I _own_ the G chord. It's the only one I play well.

amerocker go get your money then

@@amerocker I've got the D chord covered. If we can find who owns C we can start a class action lawsuit against anyone in history who ever used a 1-4-5 chord progression. We'll be RICH! LOL

Michael Smith pretty sure it’s Johnny Marr coz he uses that shape all the time all over the fretboard

@@michaelsmith2017 Nail down the D and C and Neil Young is screwed!

Gavin MacDonald. My thoughts after watching Adam’s vid was that you’d have to question the competence of Perry’s lawyers. Haven’t seen Rick’s yet but will go back & watch it. The more noise made about this the better!

GO ON ADAM ME SON

Adam would be the best. He would explain why the lawsuit is frivolous.

Chris Garner good point

@@somemod8045 He talked about how you can't own a minor scale with the lawsuit.

klivegee that could be the new title of dire straits new album

@@r4vr4c Didn't Warren Zevon already write 'Send money, guns and lawyers'?

Neither do Katy Perry or some random rap "artist"

It's good to protect artists from being stolen from. But unless it is a substantial part of the song and you can truly hear that it's the same composition/lyrics it's ridiculous. There's a reason the KP lawsuit took 5 years, even in the legal circuit that usually has a slower pace. It's because Flame was adamant about it or his lawyers influenced him to continue.

Still marks a shit precedent

I don't agree: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UTTzh8DZkFY.html

Wow. You gotta chill there. Just because you don't listen to him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist and has no reputation. Most artists don't know you even exist, does that mean you have no reputation?Although I don't agree with the lawsuit and think it's completely unnecessary, I do know that Katy Perry had a beginning as a "Christian" musician, however long that lasted and however long ago. It's not unreasonable to think that she would know who Flame or other similar musicians to him are.

Led Zepplin...whoops

No more pentatonic minor for anybody!

A huge chunk of metal in e-minor has chromatic riffs, so a lot of it is unique.

What about the lick?

@@RetroPlus dude there goes the lick rip

I agree with you and support your point, and I understand, however there's a technical error...you can't have copyright for a chord progression, but you are totally right and again, agree 1000%

Great example!! By this precedent, every single modern blues musician is subject to lawsuit by the original bluesmen and women.

Absolutely... How many songs can I play on guitar with 3-5 chords... almost all pop

Nothing to do with it; this song is simply almost a cover.

@@executionsquad3926 That is your expert opinion is it, like the anus, opinions proliferate ubiquitously. I don't like anonymous know it alls.

Those are ALL words I've used before. Please PM me your lawyer's address. My team will be in contact

Yeah, this should backfire at him.

I like that Idea a LOT!

Christian songs plagiarize everything else in the music world. The pious sacrimonious scumbags have been doing this for centuries. Same for their writings and everything else.

Their song use lyrics right out of the Bible and why can’t they come up with new tunes. Everyone has to redo the same songs over and over.....

There pigeon John and red cloud Christian but very oringinal in sound

That s a frigging lie. The main beat of the songs are near identical

Let's be honest, they sound super similar. But everything similar about them is so basic im sure hundreds of new FL studio users made similar shit on their first time

Not necessarily. While juries do a pretty good job, some juries do not, no matter how good the lawyering. For good reason, most parties settle because juries are inherently unpredictable.

Song is copied: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UTTzh8DZkFY.html

Lol

@@executionsquad3926 oh, is that why he lost?

I will second your sentiment. I grew to hate everything about the industry while working in it. I wished I'd stayed working as a sound engineer/designer in theatre.

Led Zeppelin was sued many times for ripping off blues songs. There is an old quote that says, "Good artists borrow and great artists steal." One of he reasons why old blues artists didn't care was that they sold songs to labels and no longer had the rights to them. Many would have a stage name for each label and sell their rights to the song to each label. They made their money playing live and so do the blues performers of today.

not to mention the "amen break" prolly the most sampled song in history !

And all the gospel artists who've used this blues progression.

Uhhhh cause noone listens to or pays money for blue so there is no money to sue for

Blues as a style and its leading lights never had it so good, if a curtain bunch of British guitarist didn't rip them off with great reverence. Where would we be today if back in the day someone could lay claim to the 12 bar turn around.

You beat me to it lol. I'll claim 3/4 time and key of A. Seriously agree, the lawsuit was ridiculous and it could get in way of creativity for other music creators cause of fear of unintentionally copying a big popular song even if very little is in common with other song. I was surprised at the outcome of the lawsuit tbh

@@timtoongamer Anyone taken 6/8 yet? I might take C major too while I'm at it.

I claim the E minor scale, no more Metallica for anybody!!

I kinda think that there should be a time period when to sue haha. Dark horse has been out for a hot minute. You can’t wait forever.

And that’s how AC/DC Lost their entire catalog...

Except the old style was to see the rights to the labels so there was no incentive to sue for something they no longer owned.

He wanted 20 million dollars, ahahahahahahahahahaah that's a laugh. Because his song didn't make it he sues Katy for making a hit song.

Björn Eriksson it was a #1 gospel song and was nominated for a GRAMMY trust me Katy Perry's producers heard the song.

@@altonmassson that's assuming that all producers listen to every number 1 song on every chart in every genre every week. That is quite a deal of music because I play gospel music for my church and I have never heard of Flame or his song until this lawsuit. Plus, depending on the genre, number 1 does not always equate to $20,000,000. That just means that during a given period a song out sold other songs on a given chart list, not that it made millions of dollars. if I sell 10,000 units in a week under the genre of R&B and the next highest sells 9,800 on the same chart, that could make me a #1 artist, but not $20,000,000.

Bitcoin Motorist i was just thinking that!

Facts

What...u expect Michael Jackson to jump up outta the grave or something? C'mon...

@@cjhepburn7406 there's still people owning the song

@@cjhepburn7406 Lol exactly. I know I shouldnt have done this, but I couldn't help letting out a laugh

The stooges I. Wanna be your dog vs new order blue. Monday

Ummmm Have you tried playing his "ripped off" blues?

@@RedemptionArtsTeam No one said Mayer ain't a good musician, just that say where he burrowed some inspiration.

But again, I guess rock n' roll was found in stolen gimmicks of previous acts. Imagine if a guy like Tommy Iommi wake up with Flame's mentality, every heavy metal band in the worl would be sued XD

I was referring to JMs playing, its really unique and different...nothing stolen or even borrowed there. The only way you find out is if you try and play his stuff.

@@RedemptionArtsTeam he's genius at borrowing a tiny little part of his favorite musicians licks/styles. He combined and mixed it all with his own style, thus became his signature.

I think you'll find that's mine 😉

Brendan Morales how do punk bands go about this using 3/4 power chords throughout an entire song? Only so many different combinations and permutations can be created with the amount of chords being played

I call dibs on I vi IV V. (I think Blink 182 already owns I V vi IV)

I own II - V - I now guys, be done with jazz

psoas oh man, way to corner the market. let’s hope the guy that owns the blues progression doesn’t hear about this case.

You just copyrighted "Heart & Soul". You can now sue every child who gets near a piano. 🤣

By George, I love the reference!

I see what you did there! Brilliant! Kudos!

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When she will be smashing rich, I advice her to buy a Powsh, a Woyce ow a Fewwawwi. Americans...

Her guitars were all built by famous "loosers", I guess? Her strats have "tram low" bars? Does she own a "know" caster, yet? Or one of those famous super heavy Logs?

It's not! m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UTTzh8DZkFY.html

G R Prolly case closed. Money's been taxed.

America’s legal system is largely based off the British legal system.

The original legal system was almost perfect, and no it wasnt based on the british legal system they are both based on the isreal republic legal system

@@Clay300 Yeah you are almost right there. Common Law(aka Judicial Precedent or case law) is of English origin look it up. There is a theory by John Makdisi that says English Common Law was influenced by medievel Islamic Law.(Not Israel, that is how Israel is spelled not Isreal). Modern Israel was carved out of Ottoman Syria by the British after WWI, where they adopted many of the English based law practices we know today. Also NO legal system has been perfect in history, they are documents made by people who are flawed, and need to be revised in order to be applicable to the times. The laws Mary is speaking of are much more modern law practices developed in the late 1800s early 1900, when trademark and copyright laws were largely revised. They continue to be revised today, as more cases of precedence are ruled on by judges. England developed most of its copyright laws, along side the development of the printing press. History check complete. Sorry Mary for Trolling. I only was trying to state that American's legal system wasn't the only foolish system, Britain's is as well.

@@briancox8422 i believe laws are suppose to work for the people and not control the behavior of people through passing laws that do just that. looking into the history of the collapse of the roman empire and the story of Theodoric the great, i would say its all mostly based off Judaism at witch our constitution descends from Magna Carta coming from the biblical idea of the ten commandments.

@@Clay300 yeah except the Magna Carta has nothing to do with modern law really. The term Common Law came about in 1066 predating the Magna Carta first of all. Modern Law called Common Law/Judicial Law/Case Law is modern law and what our governments are based off of not the Magna Carta from 1215 that just limited the monarch originally. Modern or "English Law" was formed in Britain not somewhere else, the Americans adopted most of it and changed some stuff to make it seem like they were doing something. The British Legal System, is probably the most influential system in the world. There are only a few parts of the Magna Carta still in effect, and they don't really do much, now that Britain is a true democracy(sorta haha). What still holds on from the Magna Carta is it defends the freedom and rights of the English Church(most people aren't too active in the Church these days, just say they are and like to know it is there) another confirms the liberties and customs of London and other cities, and the MAIN ONE that still actual counts is trial by jury. Laws are meant to establish standards, keep order, resolve dispute(what we are dealing with), and protect liberties and freedoms.

He won a Grammy, dude... Do better;

@@nosajsamaniego4512 weird greedy Christian Grammy winner. Happy?

@@robbermakesmusic He won a Grammy, dude...; Use commas, dude...; Do better;

@@nosajsamaniego4512 Grammys suck. They have scammed many artists. and stop being a grammy nazi. This isnt school. It's a comment section, clearly it's understandable enough.

Mark Hoover Whoa. Heavy.

I agree. Sueing someone is net a very Christian thing to do. Flame needs to reread his Bible. Plus, with all of the music that has been written throughout the centuries, it's not surprising that parts of music are similar to music that has already been written.

Ah, but you see academics have invented this absurd thing called "the death of the author", which basically means the author doesn't decide what their own creation is supposed to mean.

I bought 'Thirty-Three and 1/3', by George Harrison, on vinyl new. My older sisters were surprised. It seemed that they didn't know that I knew who he was. And it was my older sisters whom raised me on Rock music, particularly The Beatles. "My experts tell me it's ok."

PrmFirestorm 086 See...u understand stuff.

That Rad Guy Correction...rich idiot.

I dont think they are on

Colton Allen 'only 12 chords to work with' ???? Look at the chord structure for something like the crusaders 'street life' .

@@geoffkeelerguitar9139 I think you misunderstand my comment. There are only 12 notes in the chromatic scale is what I mean.

Arthur Cole I love how everyone is citing Ice Ice Baby. Has there only been 2 cases of copyright infringement in the last 40 years? That's one every 20 years. Surley u/we can dodge that bullet? No?

Oh, you mean like Luke 6:29, 30? i've never met a Christian in my life.

? Claiming to control everything by right is a Christian thing. Condemning pagans in courts they control is a Christian thing. Hiring crooked lawyers is also a Christian thing. This is all totally Christian.

@@crhu319 Jesus said all that did he? I think you've confused assholes with Jesus

Yet he won a pay to get award called a Grammy.

Only in the minds of the ego inflated and self-important is there a difference

Exactly. Only Americans can have a president that lies about using prostitution, to which they turn a blind eye and then is swayed by Christian standards to choose how to penalize musicians. Basically, it’s the country of double standards. 👎🏼 🇺🇸