Kaya Cast XL Vacuum Casting Machine (HONEST review)

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The Kaya Cast vacuum system for professional metal casting recently got an upgrade. Arbe Manufacturing have produced the Kaya Cast XL, a bigger vacuum system with a pump that's 3 times more powerful. It's bigger and it's more powerful, but the question that must be asked is this... is it any better. Here I tackle that question and review this beast of a machine.
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@PepetoolsUSA Год назад

Another knock-out, well thought out, amazingly produced video by the legend himself! Thank you VogMan for everything you do for the community!

@vogman Год назад

Much appreciated!

@tonywharton5220 Год назад

This is so interesting and to be honest, it's not the cheapest but it definitely isn't the most expensive hobby once you're set up. A really good investment 👍

@vogman Год назад

True enough Tony. All hobbies start off like that I think 😁

@tonywharton5220 Год назад

@@vogman Yep. Unfortunately I have rather a large synth collection. I have far too many hobbies

@3pennymusic 8 месяцев назад

Great review. I really enjoyed your well thought out commentary and how you highlighted the parts of the kit that are truly important on a daily basis. Your comments on the mis-alignment of the oil level window as well as the air filtration units are justified. For that kind of money, I would like easy items like these (low hanging fruit, if you will) to be sorted out at the factory. Also true, is the fact that these do not negatively impact form/fit/functionality. The capacity of the vacuum pump is impressive @ 8cuft. Do you know what kind of warranty there is on the pump, specifically? Nevertheless, thank you for your review. I do hope the manufacturer acknowledges how well you present their products. A Kaya Cast XL is a fair trade for an honest review such as yours. Cheers.

@markmorgan8378 Год назад

Long Live Vogman! I wish I could get into casting. Just to many other hobbies.

@vogman Год назад

Thanks Mark. It's fun, but like all hobbies, it's expensive! 😁😁😁

@MagicZant Год назад

I just bought the traditional kaya cast last month and im happy with it, i have been doing a lot of test with ramps and stuff so im in experiment mode now, but i will sure look forward in the next years to try that, just hope the price wouldnt be that expensive for that time

@vogman Год назад

Unless your production level increases, be happy with the original. It's served me well. But yes, as a future toy, it's a nice one to keep in mind 😁

@thefolklorefoundry5564 Год назад

I wish they'd include a vibrating investment table for that price. I've fitted one to my original Kaya cast and upgraded the vac pump.

@vogman Год назад

I'm not absolutely sure it's necessary... but you could always touch an orbital sander against the edge of the plate. That would vibrate it 😁

@TmsFin Год назад

8:04 I think the inspection hole actually is aligned as intended. Now I'll admit I don't know anything about these casting machines, but I think the Oil is intended to be inspected from standing position. Thus the hole placement higher, meaning you can quickly just look down and see "yep there's oil in there".

@vogman Год назад

It could be... be please remember, I was trying very hard to find faults there 😁

@spikechuong951 Год назад

Dang! I'm still floored with the original kaya-cast's capabilities. I might have to start thinking about saving up.

@vogman Год назад

No matter what I say or what I show, the sheer surprise at how quickly it pulls is guaranteed to surprise you. No more rushing with the investment for me 😁

@captainjerk Год назад

Sweet machine buddy! Works very well! Out performs the original! (slightly, lol) Thanx again fro your honest reviews Geoff!

@vogman Год назад

Thanks ap. I can't believe I missed the opportunity to say that it sucks... because it really, really does 😂🤣😂

@anhta6478 Год назад

Yo Vogman. Thanks from Vietnam

@rdgk1se3019 Год назад

This would be nice for making small lost wax brass parts for model kits.

@vogman Год назад

Easily cope with those, yes 😁

@ZeeLobby Год назад

I'd love if more complex tool makers went this route, making things easily viewable, usable and replaceable. Aesthetics be damned!

@vogman Год назад

Absolutely. A lot of thought has clearly gone into this upgrade.

@RogueA.I. Год назад

Even at twice the price it’s hard to beat the value. Putting a system like this together from scratch would have a much larger footprint and likely not come close to ease of use and quality.

@thybigballs Год назад

I like how it has legit machine paint that is resistant to chipping or scratching. It should look good for years.

@vogman Год назад

The whole unit has a great feel of quality 😁

@choschiba Год назад

Thank you so much for the review. Which investment material are you using?

@pival801 Год назад

This might not be very relevant to this video, but I have a question. I was researching desktop injection molding, and it seems that the only documented way to make very detailed aluminum molds is to use a CNC mill capable of detail comparable to what a resin printer can do with resin pieces. Do you think a system such as the one you showed in this video, with castable resin and all, could be used to produce parts with a good enough dimensional accuracy to be used as molds?

@SoBeit777 Год назад

So what are the flask sizes this thing can capacitate? Do you think this would work for doing large pieces, like the length of a sriracha bottle? Seems like its still a little too small

@JanetDiaz6152 5 месяцев назад

What furnace are you using ?

@kreasiorangbiasa Год назад

Hallo.. I like watching it, hoping that in the future we can share experiences with each other in the same way. thanks vogman.

@sashaputin3170 11 месяцев назад

Hey Mate. How long is the flask on this unit??? Could it cast 7”x1”x2” piece of metal?

@ThePhiphler Год назад

It's cool to see the overlap of dental fabrication and your jewel casting. The only real question is, was that vegetable oil that you poured into the Kaya XL?

@vogman Год назад

Don't tell everyone! They'll all want some! 😉😁🤣👍

@nunyabusiness9043NunyaBiz Год назад

You are NOT an amateur! You make pretty good coin doing this, and rightfully so. But modesty in this day and age is a virtues when it’s not overdone.😊

@vogman Год назад

Well, thank you, but as I don't sell any castings I'm certainly not a professional. I'm pleased with where I am and I'd call myself and experienced amateur these days, but I still think I've got a lot to learn. One of the things that does bother me is the large number of people who call themselves "Pro" when they know nothing. They then make crazy claims and show terrible techniques, and this leads other people to follow that approach... creating a chain of misguided folks doing things badly. So I prefer to be honest... I'm an amateur doing the best job I can. There are thousands who are better, that's obvious, and I'm always willing to listen to them - and pass on that advice. 😁

@nunyabusiness9043NunyaBiz Год назад

@@vogman Oh, I thought you did commissions; must have been one of the other RU-vidrs I watch. But, yes, I hate when people bandy the word “pro” about, like when I objected to a coworker who was texting while he gave me a ride and he said he was a pro at texting. “I don’t care if you get paid to text. I would rather not die.” Cheers to you, my friend.

@JanetDiaz6152 5 месяцев назад

I dont understand how this works. You take the 3d print make a mold . So the 3d plastic melts when you pour the aluminum in.?

@svaarcaldersson6628 Год назад

Great review as always VOG. How do you think this would work for metals like iron and gold?

@vogman Год назад

Hi Svaar. I've no doubt it could cope. I already know people using the original with gold, though iron is something I haven't personally tried.

@Lilalil310 5 месяцев назад

Hello, i have a question. I would Like to order this Machine for hobby. It should shipp to Germany. I have read that i have to have the business to be Abel to buy it. Do you know can i order it? There is no machine Like Kaya cast in Germany.

@juanofthekind Год назад

Dats so big!!!

@vogman Год назад

It is!!!

@matthewhunt4835 13 дней назад

Great video as usual! I bought the original Kaya cast from your video about that, and now want/need the size of the XL bell jar, cheeky but if I buy just the bell jar for the XL is there any way it’d fit the original? The dimensions make me think it might juuuuuuust fit on the investment plate?

@vogman 13 дней назад

I'll be honest Matthew, I'm not really sure. You're beter off asking Arbe 😁

@matthewhunt4835 13 дней назад

@@vogman They said no. 😂 "The lip of the bell jar that is used on the Kaya XL measures 12.75”. The width of the table on the Kaya Cast unit measures 11”. The bell jar would not fit onto the table enough to secure a vacuum." - I'm going to cut an acrylic riser to pop under the existing bell jar. Fingers crossed it doesn't implode 🤞

@bryanbeast8662 Год назад

Awesome video just as my current vacuum table is giving up the ghost. Would you please review some investment powders? I'm having a lot of trouble transitioning to casting wax resin. I'm getting really poor surface quality in my casts and the investment powder is the last thing I haven't changed.

@vogman Год назад

It's a very difficult thing to review as the cost of these powders is quite high and often obtaining them in different regions is impossible. Where are you based?

@bryanbeast8662 Год назад

@@vogman I'm based in Canada. Currently I'm working with Plasticast. Before that I used Satin Cast 20 for many years. But Satin Cast gives terrible results with wax resins. BTW, at this point I pretty much have your Siraya tech and Liqcreate videos memorized. LOL

@vogman Год назад

So that's you and me that are watching those videos then 🤣😂🤣 I have used Prestige Optima with great success. I know that's available in the US via Pepetools... pepetools.com/products/certus-investment-powder-prestige-optima-49lb-bag I've also heard great things about www.ransom-randolph.com/plasticast though I don't think it's available on this side of the pond... maybe it is in yours...?

@bryanbeast8662 Год назад

@@vogman Thanks for the links! I just used them to order the optima. I've ordered it before from other vendors but none have been able to deliver. Hopefully pepetools will be able to. Plasticast is available on this side of the pond. It is what I was hoping to transition to, but with no luck so far.

@catnamestaken Год назад

Cool

@vogman Год назад

😁😁😁

@SestoMazzanti Год назад

Amazing video content and editing as usual. Hello friend, I bought the standard version of this machine from arbe a while ago and I am very happy. I have a couple of questions related to your video. if the same piece and sprue system is used in both machine... The more suction power from the XL version means "better detail/fewer casting defects"? Was that medallion printed hollow or solid? I usually print my models with a wall thickness of 0.7mm because I have read that it is not a good idea to make thick solid models with Siraya Tech cast resin. and in some pieces I have had problems with large hollow parts. I think it is due to the first vacuum to remove bubbles. I believe the piece were broken/impressed by the pressure of the vacuum machine and the investment go inside the hollow piece Thank you so much from Spain !

@vogman Год назад

Hi Miguel. I guess it could be argued that the power of the XL is really about speed. It pulls on the molten metal much faster, moving it into place before it can set. I don't know this for sure, but it does make sense I suppose 😁 The medallion was solid, 6mm thick in the centre. I print on a height of 0.03 which I've read cures quicker and more thoroughly than 0.05, because ST Cast must be fully cured. I also leave thick items, like this medallion, for a good hour of UV curing. I think I'd always be worried that hollow prints were still wet inside... but if I expect UVs to penetrate my 6mm print, then I should also expect it could penetrate a hollow print. In short my friend, both arguments sound good. I guess there's nothing for it but to try both and see which gives the best results. 😁👍👍👍

@SestoMazzanti Год назад

@@vogman Thank you very much for your detailed answer. You are the best! Thanks again!

@itailu Год назад

well I have two vacuum machines. one is made in Israel and the other is Kaya. the Israeli one has a week vacuum But it has a builtin vibrating device something the Kaya doesn't have and I have found out the shaking is a must or I'll have small bubbles on my metal. I also don't have the xl so the oil gauge is on the side and I see me having so much trouble replacing the oil in the further. I don't understand why the oil tap isn't on the side so it's easy just to empty the machine from oil. I guess I'll have to bring friends to help....

@vogman Год назад

Interesting... I've not come across vibrating like this.

@itailu Год назад

@@vogman I tried without and with. With is an old school way

@FireCrowsWorkshop Год назад

Sounds like a solid piece of kit. So is there a particular reason that in the thumbnail there’s KAKA rather KAYA on the machine itself? It doesn’t sound like a poop type device 🤔🤷‍♂️🤣

@vogman Год назад

What an arsehole I am!!!! Thank you for spotting that. Prize pillock of the week award goes to VogMan 🤣😂🤣

@FireCrowsWorkshop Год назад

@@vogman and there was me thinking I missed some subtle hint in the video 🤷‍♂️🤣

@sumanari4070 11 месяцев назад

how much price please

@ochoaelgarcia 9 месяцев назад

I have one for € 700

@marcins5584 Год назад

I could not get the Basic Kaya Cast under 1200 Euro plus Shiping and Taxes. I think after reviews, the Machines get more expensive

@vogman Год назад

Where about in the world are you my friend? We can always ask Arbe where your nearest retailer is. That may save you a little.

@marcins5584 Год назад

@@vogman germany

@davidprock904 Год назад

Let me see you degas water with it?

@vogman Год назад

bit.ly/3me6eAC Pepetools show a boiling water demo here

@noviceartisan Год назад

Two point three bloody grand... that's a massive issue for that bit of metal mate, it's ludicrousy greedy and overpriced. I'd rather build my own tools, which i have :P lol Be nice if you did some more videos on making your own stuff instead of getting wallets stolen for simple tasks ;) hint hint

@vogman Год назад

I didn't get paid anything for reviewing this excellent machine, and I won't get any commissions, referral fees, etc. It's strictly my opinion on what is a very good piece of equipment, and the video was requested by several viewers. So please, don't think of me as one of those sponsored channels, because I'm not. I'll be honest, if I hadn't been lucky enough to be given this item, I wouldn't be able to afford it, so I am naturally sympathetic to those, like me, that need to stretch their money further than it will go. I have in the past done videos on home-made casting equipment, including a vacuum system ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EGNnH_xbjR4.html Is it as good as the real thing? Obviously not. Does it work? Yes... it got me started and I hope it's helped a lot of others. Because I've already done these DIY builds, I've assumed folks don't need me to make more. I certainly could revisit these old plans and find an alternative / updated approach. And I assure you, if I get requests from my viewers to do that, I will. 😁😁😁