That also comes with WANT.. Something a lot of ppl are questioning with Thib. Clowney was the same way, and now we look at him the same way. IF IF IF is what you say when you talk about him. Thib has the game, but we don't know if he will want to BE the game, or if the game is his main priority over $/comfort after a 1st rookie contract. That's why character is looked at so closely. You're not only drafting guys because they're good football players with high potential.. You're also looking to see if you're getting a guy who you think will be on your franchise down the line, along with not st5iring up potential situations that hurt your team in a negative way.
I just literally heard Lawrence Taylor laugh when you said "best edge rushing OLB" you've ever seen. Seriously though, that bend is why I'm so happy the Giants landed Kayvon. I really thought he wouldn't be there to take. Having Michael Strahan as a mentor doesn't hurt either....
Well you got a giant's fan here. And we just got Thibodaux! So we will see my friend. All I can say is.. I am psyched! I actually watched this segment again today. I really like your evaluation skills. Comparing Thibodaux and Hutchinson, I noticed one big difference in their college days. Hutchinson had David Ojabo on the other side. Thibodeaux did not. There was no way my giants should have had an opportunity to get him at number 5. The jaguars taking travon Walker ahead of him is absolutely incompetent. Thibodeaux was the best player in the draft and we got him! I subbed your channel. Looking forward to more content like this!
i'm a giants fan who has been driven to tears on the last few draft nights. this year, everyone knows the guy to take #5 (except chris simms who tells us that thibodeaux sucks and everyone knows it) and i just was waiting for them to pick a guy everyone else had projected as a 4th rounder, but, miracle of miracles, joe schoen is not criminally insane like devious dave was. i'm thrilled
You can see from his highlights alone year by year how Hutchinsons roll change in 2021 let his play be more productive on film, and when it came to disrupting the backfield/getting after the QB. This dude has a motor like no other. He might not have Von Miller like bend, but that doesn't mean every player with bend is some amazing sack/pressure guy. You have your Leonard Floyd/Josh Allen/ Dante Fowler like guys who show that bend can help you, but it doesn't necessarily make you into an elite pass rusher. That's just a high preference from an edge rusher that everyone seems to LOVE.. Regardless of that, Hutchinson is a ball player. He has that WANT that you can't make a player do, UNLESS he truly want's it. A Jared Allen comp is an amazing comp for him. From arm length and weight/height, all the way to production and play on the field. -Team player -High motor play, that literally earns him sacks. Sacks and pressure that low motor players take themselves out of.. -Powerful as hell -A football guy -Versatile where you can put him on the d line -He's a disrupter. It doesn't matter how he does it.. He makes good things happen with disrupting plays -He has that football character where it feels/seems like he cares more about the team and play > $/selfishness/ a year 3 new contract type guy that you see with players who are all about me 1st. Hutchinson is way to hard to fall out of love with. You might not see the ability to be an elite bend guy, but guys like Jared Allen, or a todays Trey Hendricks, show you exactly why it's not all about the unreal bend and crazy speed when it comes to every top edge rusher. I think the reason I have Hutch over Thib is because.. -His motor is on another level. Check out the 2011 Jared Allen 22 sack season, and you will see half of his sacks come from his motor alone. You get that with Hutch.. -You don't have to question character/want -You see the consistency on film -You seen his power wasn't something that was easy to stop. Doesn't matter how it's used -Georgia game showed he was a game planed around type player that can make a difference as for how you have to play a defense with legit d line pressure -He's safe, but he also still has that potential of getting better. If you have a safe floor, then you can only go up in progression if you move at all.. So he's not just safe, but safe with potential to progress into a much better player with his pass rush skills. -And that speed to power is going to be something tackles aren't going to be able to stop every time.. Hutch transitions over to that power game that makes tackles look like they can't keep up with matching play after play. Thib has the high ceiling, but he also has that unknown floor that's super scary.. A guy who can be a top 5 edge in a couple years, or a guy who can literally be on his way out of the door of the NFL based on ego/self motivated thinking alone. A guy who you can see on his 3rd year rookie contract asking to be highest paid, or a guy expecting that he's more than what teams view him as later on... Alot like Clowney did in the past. Clowney... A guy who's said ceiling was miles long, but we're looking at an 8 year, never hit double digit sack season, has 1 year in a full 16 game season.. A good player, but not a franchise changing/great player is Clowney. I can get more into film/production if asked, but I'm taking Hutch over Thib for alot of reasons. Especially if I'm a top 3 pick team not looking at QB in 2022..
@@benjiduhgoat3192 its a running joke about white players in the NFL. They're always called: "sneaky athletic, high motor, ton of grit, great character, bring your lunch pail to work guy. I might even let him date my daughter"
@@bobafatty111 Interesting.. I mean, I don't view color of skin like that, nor do I really know when that's used only based on white players alone, but more so just character and view of someone who's not jump out of the gym athletic... You can look at any guy who has that kind of character/heart/ style and say that about them, because their not just playing off of pure talent, with big ego.
Potential and maybe he could be this and that in the future lmao.... Hutch's football IQ is so much higher then Thibs and if you watched the tape uno Thibs takes plays off. He's a liability against the run. Hutch may never have 17 sacks but he will be a great all around player. Yes the NFL is a passing league but they still run it close to 45% of the time.
Yeah it’s the ceiling and floor argument, Could hutch come in and make a bigger immediate impact sure, but with the right coaching kt is a legit generational talent on the edge.
Aiden is a 43 bull rushing scheme specific DE. He will do little more than crash into the OL attempting to prevent long first downs or big plays. Most teams no longer expend first round picks on players like that, but you’re talking the Lions. Who have taken 2 DTs, an OG and C with first round picks going back to 2010. Essentially, he’s a role player and they’ve already begun amassing luxury pieces around him trying to make him better. It’s scary this is their franchise when Vegas has him set at 5-6 sacks in 2022. KT is a scheme versatile OLB who can function both on and off the ball the way AH cannot. Kind of like Walker, the Giants lucked out realizing an entire schematic change (which the Lions did) to accommodate AHs talent was simply a bad decision. He will play in coverage and help protect the middle the way AH cannot. He will rush the passer and stop the run. Far as I’m concerned, KT was a slam dunk at 2. Aiden is a bigger, slower “classic” DE who I think will end up Chris Long or Maxx Crosby in his best games, but largely neutralized in most others. I don’t expect much which means I’ll probably get even less.
