Then again, there's evidence to suggest that Capt. Picard viewed death as preferable to becoming a Borg drone. So, maybe the Borg's lack of interest in the Kazon race is the Kazon's gain, rather than the Borg's loss.
@@Perktube1 id imagine the ferengi would make a fortune selling them weapons for their ships.but they are not stupid would be 40 year old technology that's harmless to their ships .
@@jorgecarreras477 it's most likely that the Federation technology just wasn't compatible enough with their tech. Another technology may have been more compatible. There were other races in the Delta Quadrant that already had replicators. So maybe one of their technologies would have worked better.
I thought that they may have been an offshoot of the Klingons. Whatever race had invaded Kronos, and stolen the Sword of Kahles may have also taken a group of Klingons as well. They eventually escaped and became the Kazon.
Maybe it's just me, but I always thought these guys had a lot of untapped potential as characters. Recently-freed ex-slaves who are dealing with tech way beyond anything they're able to use to its best efficiency, yet too proud, angry, and filled with bad memories of their recent lot in life to turn to anyone else for aid.
Adiraiju I'm under the assumption there are to few good and well written writers. I wonder if there is a dream team of science fiction, science and dialogue writers? Sticking some of them in a room with the suggestion box from every fanfic comic con attendee and RU-vid comment would make for an Epic anything, the only real trouble would be who would be willing to pay to put it up lol... Assuming they have pride.
I thought they had potential as a species but the reasons for the division between the sects and an opportunity to truly explore Kazon culture never occurred.
the borg assimilate cultures and species to bring themselves closer to perfection. the borg took one look at the kazon and decided "yeeah....we assimilate them and we'll be taking 200 steps back."
I think the reason is fairly clear. Their technology is derived from the Trabe and it's possible that the Borg may have already encountered the Trabe before. Biologically, there are other species that are physically more impressive than the Kazon which makes them indistinctive from a Borg perspective.
Kazon were the least believable long running threat in all of Star Trek. A massively technologically inferior species constantly catching up to an attacking a ship that can travel multiple warp factors faster, has stronger weapons, stronger shields, better literally everything... and somehow they were a serious threat? How about: Oh no, the Kazon are attacking, engage warp factor 9, leave them in the dust?
@Jimmy Whisper TNG wanted them to be big villains and they’re just not intimidating enough for that. Ultimately they don’t do any harm though and we got Cardassians and Borg down the line, so it’s not a big deal now
Proof my phone is eavesdropping. Watch television. An episode of Enterprise where some Kazon get assimilated by The Borg. Lo and behold, I get recommended videos on Kazon and The Borg.
@@CelticVictory yes 8 of them in an ambush where a threat 4 are managable. 1vs1 there where a joke. Lets be honest here, the kazon didn't fully understood their outdated technology and where never a real thread to anybody except pacifists like kes and lone traders like neelix. Any major or semi powerful party in the delta quadrant could take out the kazon in a heartbeat. If i understand 7of9s statement correctly the kazon are not worthy to be assimilated because their biological features where nothing special and their intellect is so low they would never had developed warp technologies if they did not steal them from their slavers 200 years ago.
The Kazons had already been spreading through local space for a couple decades. Their ships were clunky and primitive tech compared vs Voyager. But probably equivalent to the 23rd century stuff which let Kirk cover a lot of space over the years.
Great video I like the history of Star Trek various races & tech keep up the great work. I always personally thought that the Kazons, we're centuries ago a long lost Klingon Empire Patrol & Conquest Fleet that got lost in the Delta Quadrant via the caretaker like in the premiere or got there the long route by crossing the Beta & Delta Quadrant borders or something like that and as it usually happens with the Klingons they cross path with a tougher enemy that didn't like being attack or invaded, the Fleet most was destroyed & the remaining survivors captured & interrogated over the centuries they might lost their way and become something new & devolved.
Btw. The Kazon remind me of what happened after the slave revolt in Haiti. Very different sects overthrowing slave lords, then trying to divide up the spoils amongst the winners not amongst the people. Not saying anything bad about Haitian people in general. In fact, I learned more about the history of Haiti from my Haitian friends in South Florida then I ever did in the American school system.
Over hill, over dale As we hit the dusty trail, And the Kazons go rolling along. In and out, hear them shout, Counter march and right about, And the Kazons go rolling along.
The writers based the Kazons on Somali people. A nomadic race of warriors, find themselves in the hand of colonisers exploiting the traditional clan system (sects), one guy (Mad Mullah) unites the clans to fight their oppressors, they get their independence, resort back to clan in fighting, break up into de facto autonomous clan states, excessively prideful, brutal, vindictive, hostile to outsiders, little regard for their own lives let alone others, technologically lagging, and a society that is stagnant due to suspicion and continued in fighting. Lawlessness ensues that reverberates around the region (Invading neighbouring countries, border wars, piracy, terrorism etc). They were introduced at the peak of Somalias civil war and their disregard for international law or peacekeepers. I dont hate the Kazon, they are just a product of their environment, which has made them callous and cynical. I feel like the writers could have fleshed them out a bit more, to make it more exciting.
The Kazon would have been better utilized as a low-tech but wide-spread species that sought to wear down the superior but single Federation vessel through sheer attrition and clever use of more primitive technology. A low-tech enemy that could still pose a threat to a state-of-the-art Federation vessel through numbers, grit, and savvy. Instead we got these guys.
Lol, it almost makes me feel guilty how much i detested the Kazon, makes me feel racist. They're just Klingon-lite, and there was already one of those, they called them Nausicaans...
Kinda wish they'd have addressed how spread out they were. Voyager encountered them for like 3 seasons. Musta been 5-6 thousand light years. Thats a large percentage of the galaxy.
Actually pretty small given that the galaxy is over 100,000 light years across. Also since they had to get supplies time to time Voyager wasn't cutting an exact straight line either.
Like always I enjoy your insightful view, I have only look at Star Trek cultural index. But I believe you but the intense work into all your projects. I have seen some on the Breen but you don't have a CULTURAL INDEX on them.
Show the Kazon some respect! For such a primitive species they did one hell of a job: beating their technically superior supressors (Trabe) and taking over a starfleet ship (Voyager). It's like apes escaping zoo and supressing mankind. Where have I seen that before ...
The Kazon had no hope of capturing Voyager on their own. They were given stolen data, tactical specs and psychological insights by a vengeful fanatic/traitor. They committed a lot of ships and resources towards the planned ambushes. And barely succeeded. And ultimately failed. They're just space orks with comparatively low tech and profoundly bad hair.
Had they played on the alliance, and had one Kazon group go along with Voyager. We could have got some character development. The idea of having some Kazon become crew members could have given us the interest that could have been the Marquis/Starfleet mix. Seeing the Kazon forced into alien space, and having to evolve their tribalistic views would be interesting. Seeing them interact with the more advanced groups of the Delta Quadrant would be cool. Seeing a villian become an antihero, then possibly more is interesting. Seeing the Borg tell them they aren't even worth assimilating, or seeing them encounter species 8472, the Voth, or Hirogen. Imagine them meeting those sirens that wanted to devour Harry. I just think like the Ferengi in DS9, we could have developed the Kazon. They were obviously meant to mean something.
It's been a long time since I watched the episodes of Voyager that had the case on it and I haven't even completed the series of them in season 7 right now, but I forget what was the reason why the kazon stopped being present after season 2. I feel like it had something to do with that other race that was trying to enslave them, but I'm not sure. I just hope it's not because they felt like they needed to change things up and make the Borg be the enemy all the time instead of being creative with their enemy. The Borg Great obviously in the kazon Do Not compare but, it would be more interesting to see the kazon have a bigger presence in Voyager but that seem to only be the case and seasons 1 & 2
One thing I'm still confused about...How long did the Trabe dominate the Kazon? I know it was long enough to instill resentment in the Trabe that hadn't died out in the nearly 30 years since they overthrew the Trabe. On an unrelated note: It is rather impressive how large an area of space the Kazon collectively controlled for a race that is basically at each others' throats constantly
It reminds me of how the Romans used to get the barbarian German tribes to fight each other. Eventually this ended up with the most Roman sect rising up as Roman citizens , and even joining the Senate. This would be like a Kazon becoming like the trader , and conquering the neighbouring Kazon. Leading to a Kazon winning in the end who are the best traders , and diplomat warriors .
This did not end Well for the Romans... In the end germanics skilled and educated in Roman tactics, led germanics marching towards rome itself....and win.
And not for the germanics as well, unable to maintain a vast empire, they löst part over part, ending in the "dark age" of medieval time. Wars over wars between areas that once Was United, feuds over Generations, evrn hundtrd years ago we still did not play well with each other and even until actual time, Civil unrest and wars are not forgotten. As disgusting the Kazon are, they have a Real background. Not only should we europeans ask us, if we are not them. The same is for the US.... What was this discussion about building a walled border? Forgive me if I as a German shake my head about it, even if I can understand it....better maybe if some feel comfortable with. Also Australia, you still did not really come to terms with your native ppl. Mankind has more of the Kazon than we would like to confess. This makes them extra disgusting. But does it make them a bad constructed people? Maybe not.
luddite witch that’s true she made the trap and knew how to disable the self destruct.Wonder how long the crew would of survived on that planet with problems like hunger, thirst and no change of clothes.
I'm really interested in how the Borg determined they weren't worthy of assimilation. Was it through scans or did they assimilate one and were like "oh-mega get that Best Choice Klingon outta here!"? I gotta know.
They were technologically backward. Biologically ordinary (aside from the chunky hair). Culturally primitive. Lacking any distinctive developments, traits, or merits. They were easily subjugated by another race for a very, very long time - which suggests inferiority. They immediately revert back to their rude ways instead of evolving forward - which demonstrates inferiority.
Here's a fun fact: the Kazon were originally conceived as contemporary L.A. street gangs. According to Jeri Taylor, they felt the Kazon were needed to address the tenor of the times and what was happening in cities and recognize a source of danger and social unrest and they wanted to do it metaphorically.
Kazon and Culture - yeah, well the Borg don't even want to assimilate them and according to Seven (of Nine) they did even assimilate primitives without warp tech sometimes (like the guys who knew about the Omega Particle!)
If the Kazon only appeared in one episode then they would be tied with those inexcusably stupid-looking fish assassins from TNG, but the Kazon kept appearing and they overstayed their welcome when they weren't even welcomed in the first place. Their Klingon knock-off design combined with their stupid "hair" that looked like dried cow pies made them unbelievably pathetic. They were a complete waste of time.
you know I realized something the Kazon actually have fair amount in common with DBZ sayians both are warrior races, both have the hair that’s pointy and stands on end, both were nothing in their previous society until they rose up and drove out the other race( driving their opposing race into near extinction just like the sayians), both pillaged the remaining technology using it to become galactic powers, and both have little regard for life it’s kinda shocking how much these two fictional races have in common
But in SPAAAAAAACE! It's not a bad concept, I'm just glad they didn't draw it out beyond one season. It's kind of like real-life gangs, dangerous within their territories, but once you leave their domain they're no longer a threat.
The Kazon were analogous to the Zulu and their uniting leader to Shaka Zulu. They were a primitive people. The least technological species in the Alpha and Beta quadrants is a Cardassian. Seska, a Cardassian spy assigned and trained by the Obsidian Order was not a scientist or engineer, but was given enough knowledge to use those disciplines as a cover. Her knowledge of both was inadequate for even a low technology species like the Cardassians. Yet, she was probably the technologically smartest person in the entire Kazon space. That is how low tech the Kazon were.
Always wondered about Taurus people and how they interacted with the ancient Vikings why they come there where they like the Anunnaki and then to mine some kind of mineral here but then slave humans in ancient times
I didn't care for the Kazon. They always came across as annoying but Voyager let them get further than they should have. More a nuisance and only a threat because Janeway allowed them to be more
I hate the current state of Star Trek as much as I hate the kazon. Before the rebooted films, I had hoped that a new Star Trek series would take place after Voyager. If they wanted to time skip, they can just jump ahead to the 29th century. I imagine that warp travel or worm hole travel would be at a point where they can travel anywhere in the entire galaxy. They can do an episode where they revisit the Delta quadrant and the Kazon are still technologically behind.
