Keep Silent? | Kris Vallotton | Bethel Church 

The character in question is an eta, and it is at the beginning of verse 36 in 1 Corinthians 14. It is listed as Strong's #2228, and I believe the relevant listing in Strong's is this: "before a sentence contrary to the one just preceding, to indicate that if one be denied or refuted the other must stand" Blessings to you all, in Jesus' name!

Thank you! Mind renewing. Life changing

Sir bless your soul, 😥, am still researching into this verse. I will serve the Lord in ministry as His Holy Spirit leads. Thank you for the Light.

Often times when this verse is preached on, we are always taught to read it in it's context. However, as Kris does here, preachers often glance over the last few verses. Paul gives us the context of his preaching. He brings it back to the beginning of creation for the same reasoning Jesus brought it back to creation when asked if God permits divorce. They are revealing God's original purpose in his design of man and woman. Both equal and both with equal gifts, but different gifts.

Thank you Kris!

AWESOME!

"Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness." - James 3:1

Jesus Himself will be subjected to the Father (1Cor15:28). This in no way diminishes Jesus’ value and worth. Godly subjection doesn’t diminish value...it affirms it.

Kris... THANK YOU! Yes, this makes much more sense than what I've been taught.

Thank you Kris for your in depth, tenacious study of all the languages and cultures involved. Outrageous blessings on you and your family my brother.

@J howe, Psalm 82:6 is the (d) that John 10:34 addresses: Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all son of the Most High.' Thank you, thank you, thank you. This was perfect timing. Praise God. Hallelu Yah.

3/3 I can't doubt anymore

Very important perspective! He has done his homework.

God bless you Kris. You're doing the will of God faithfully. Don't stop going for Jesus! :D

@J howe, I am so incredibly grateful you sent me that link. Thank you! I have run across this part in the bible where Jesus talks about the Law: John 10:34,35,36,37 and 38. Jesus answered them, " Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' (d) 35. If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came---and the Scripture cannot be broken---36. what about the very one whom the Father has set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said I am God's Son'?37.Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.38.But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."

1 Timothy 2:12, in which Paul wrote, “ I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” In this passage Paul placed a limitation on the involvement of women in positions of authority in the church. Again, notice the context surrounding the passage. This limitation is set in contrast to the functions of men, which included praying in the preceding section (1 Timothy 2:8) and serving in leadership positions in the succeeding section (1 Timothy 3:1-13). Thus, the speaking at issue in this passage is that which is representative, such as in congregational prayer, which is implicitly forbidden by the juxtaposition with instructions for men to pray, and that which is authoritative, which is explicitly forbidden in 1 Timothy 2:12 and evident from the juxtaposition with the male-oriented roles of elders and deacons in the following chapter. Thus, Paul’s instruction for women not to “teach or exercise authority over a man” in 1 Timothy 2 is specifically placing limitations on the involvement of women in positions of congregational representation or authority.

To whom do single women and wives of unbelievers ask their questions? Should these two groups not attend church and remain unlearned?

Obviously the angel at Jesus tomb was wrong to tell the women to go and tell...according to some of the comments here...the women were the first to speak the gospel.

Thank you, Kris. Sigh of relief.

Can anyone put a link to other teachings like this from Kris Vallotton?

So good!!

Head should have been translated to Source, correct?

excellent.

Shalom praise YA right on God has me doing a study on this very subject. fyi actually there are 2 Torahas. Moses and the oral tradition. Also there is no punctuation marks in the ancient languages. 1st Cor. 14::34-35 here Paul is quoting what the Corinthians wrote to him. The oral tradition has much to say about women keeping silent. Keep on right on the money. Gregg

i really cannot find where you got that "n" from??

Amen and TRUE!

Also how the heck do you say Paul isn't the author of that one passage about the Law and then assert he wrote about your theology in the rest of the 14 chapters?

Great!!

Corinthians 14:36 Prtcl GRK: θεοῦ ἐξῆλθεν ἢ εἰς ὑμᾶς KJV: from you? or came it unto INT: of God went out or to you

The Greek word η= "the" for female ή= with the pronunciation means "or"

I am not really into the feminist gospel as a female, nor do I believe the church should be dominated by men. We are equal as people, but we submit and honor one another. I guess it is more a gut thing for me, in terms of when it feels appropriate to speak and when not to...in any situation. And as a men and women we have different roles. As a child, I obeyed my parents, but as an adult, I honor my parents. And in return they honor me, for example in personal convictions, or else it would be controlling.

Are woman called to be a Pastor and explain why please. I need verse and chapter from the Bible.

Incorrect theology. I believe it means wives should keep their peace in church to keep things orderly. In principle this could mean that people in the congregation should keep their peace too and any controversy should be sorted out in private later. Women are allowed to speak and teach and can be prophets. There's plenty of examples in scripture. We are all equal under God.

This seems highly questionable. I would ask those of you who are satisfied with his answer to not simply accept it because it pleases you and rather search out more information because it strikes me as odd that out of all theologians and scholars who have translated and studied the language he seems to be the only person I find with this understanding of this passage.

Blindy agreeing with a guy about Greek when he even doesn't know the name for 1 Greek letter is appalling.

Well at least two biggies in scripture are where no man will stand up to the task so what does God do, He sends a woman! Yeah God! Whom the Son sets free is free indeed...Oh and thanks Pastor Kris.

1 Timothy 6:2-4 (NASB95) - 2 Teach and preach these principles. 3 If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, 4 he is conceited and understands nothing... 1 Corinthians 14:37-38 (NASB95) - 37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.

"Let your (married) women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak (out loud); but they are to be submissive (to the others in the service), as the law also says, And if they want to learn something, let them ask THEIR OWN HUSBANDS AT HOME (not during the service); for it is shameful for (the married) women to speak (out loud) in church." That is all that Paul is saying!

Paul is simply instructing the married Corinthian women to ask their husbands questions at home rather than creating disorder by speaking out loud in church. Nothing superspiritual. Just practical instruction. Prophets speak in turn. Tongues and interpretation is done in turn. And the married women are meant to wait till they get home to ask their husbands a question rather than speak out loud to them in church. Can't get more basic than that!

2 Timothy 4:1-4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Christ has specified the role of leadership for the men in the church-elders (1 Tim. 3:1-7), deacons (1 Tim. 3:8-13), preachers and worship leaders (1 Tim. 2:1-12; 4:13-16). Christ has therefore specified a role of submission for the women in the church. While this concept is highly unpopular in today’s culture, it is, nevertheless, His plan. Let us consider what the New Testament teaches in this regard. Women are called to “learn in silence with all submission” (1 Tim. 2:11). This emphasizes a spirit of attentiveness and receptiveness, which a woman of God has toward the male leaders in the church. The woman is not inferior to the man or of less worth or the target of discrimination, any more than Christ is inferior to God (cf. 1 Cor. 11:3). It is a matter of roles that have been assigned.

I know Kris personally, and I think he is mostly right here, but most of the church at the time of 1 Corinthians were Jewish Christians and members of the diaspora, or at least a large plurality. So the "asking their husbands in church" scenario is actually still entirely plausible.

Thanks for clearing that up. Seems as though paul is delivering a clear and serious command but there is actually an invisible sarcastic connotation. Its in the greek, so ya know. Just ignore the sacred text handed down to you in your own language. N

The Greeks did not know the Torah/Jewish laws but they equally, like the Jews did not allow the woman to learn and be educated if you read about ancient Greek ways woman had no rights.

Hahaha AMEN. us men need to hear what God is saying through women. Thank you Jesus ^^ :D

This text was not making sense to me. Not because I was for it or against it. It just didn't seem coherent with the rest of I Corinthians. No it does! Glory to the Lord!

Wrong the “what” in the Greek goes at the beginning of a sentence not the end. Bethel again teaching social gospel and false doctrine.

There is nothing more depressing to me than hearing women tell me why they think the Bible rightfully represses them in teaching, leading and pastoring.

Yeah but if the greeks worshiped women as gods, wouldn't paul say be quiet women ? I understand the eta. Funnily a man who was but is currently repenting his way back to trust, he was teaching this or very similar theme.. Jonathan welton.

Sorry Chris, there were Jews in the Corinthian Church.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God. Kris has his own agenda & interpretation of the bible which he takes completely out of context & tries to distort the true message. He is bringing false doctrine, and for those of you who don't know, this is a man who believes God is both male & female. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

I am sure we could all agree that Jesus loved men as much as He loved women, and it is important to note that what Kris has said over the years in the thousands of sermons he has preached has been to the glory of God. I have listened to him from when I first became a Christian at the age of 19 up to present-day being 27. However, as I have grown over these many years in my walk with God, I have come to trust and understand His word with greater clarity. Kris' sermons have certainly played a significant role in teaching what the scriptures say, but I am surprised to see the following conclusions he came to in this video. Many Christians alike struggle with Pauline verses referring to male authority, but nonetheless, that doesn't make what Paul is saying untrue, especially since he affirmed that his message was not according to man, but through the revelation of Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12). Kris' take on the Corinthian passage does not make sense in light of 1 Timothy 2:12-14. I agree that this is yet another troublesome passage for some of us to read, but it is not in the Bible by accident, and if we choose to contextualise the verse accepting all of what Kris has said, in relation to past culture that was different from our own, we could do so, if it were not for verse 14. "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression." Now, I do not state this verse to rile anyone up, but again it is a single verse that changes the entire precedence for this passage. If male authority was contextual to the culture at the time, then why would Paul refer all the way back to The Garden, namely Adam and Eve?

Max Imaphily, I am truly great full to Father God ; our Heavenly Father; Jehovah or as I like to call him, Papa Yahweh, for all the various ways he reaches his children. It is certainly through inspiration. The Bible is inspired writings of God through man; God breathed. I have no problem with rock music or hard rock music or hip hop, if that is truly going to speak in the language that captures the hearts and minds of men, to hear God's word. I loved hearing Jake Hamilton's song in Germany at the first Awakening Europe Conference in July of 2015 That made the fear melt away from my heart that I had carried for awhile. It is true what Bill Johnston says, that it needs to be a culture: 5 a: in my Webster's Dictionary, the integrated pattern of human learning and transmitting knowledge to succeeding generations. It is truly important to talk about the gospel and if it be in song or in story, so be it. "It is done" 1 John 2:5 But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him..

No women apostles, priests, disciples, and told to be silent. Wonder what that means?

I do believe that reading the Bible in context certainly gives women the right to minister and serve God with the gifts he has provided. A surface reading of "women ought to be silent" is fundamentally incompatible with the teaching in the very same letter (women should cover their heads while praying and prophesying), not to speak of the many women who shared in God's labor with Paul. However, this kind of untrue teaching is wrong, whether the reason is ignorance or deceitfulness. It seems that Kris Vallotton doesn't really know greek, and should therefore keep to the most reliable translations and commentaries, instead of "translating" something what he wished the text said! I mean, he did compare a large number of readily available english translations with how many translate man/woman instead of husband/wife, and that was 16/43 translations. How many of those would translate ἢ as "what" or "nonsense"? The answer is 0/43. Didn't he wonder why? And if he found the conjuction of logical disjuction (ἢ ) in the greek verse, did he not find that it occured twice in the same passage? _Or_ (ἢ )has the word of God gone out from you, _or_ (ἢ )has it come to you only? The second time ἢ appeared in the verse, Kris Vallotton seemed to happily translate it as "or", like all other translators, but why then would the first ἢ in the same verse be translated as "what", "nonsense"? It is regrettable that some people have so little faith in the Bible that they are willing to use lies and misinformation to tackle bad theology. Equally regrettable are the christians who are willing to follow this kind of sillyness, even when it is evidently false, because it makes them feel good. Please, have faith in the God who is revealed in the Bible!

There's the question of unmarried women, there is a hint given by Paul: Titus 2 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ³ The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; ⁴ That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, ⁵ To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. That is the area for aged women, teaching young (unmarried) girls. Now, in godly order NO WOMAN leaves her father and mother UNLESS given into marriage. This tells it all, that if such an unmarried woman has any question, she is still under the custody of her parents. That's where she is to ask. The problem we have nowadays is that we take our ungodly modern culture and try to reason it in scriptures. God said it is only a man who leaves his parents, picks a wife for himself not a woman leaving her parents for a job etc. Another way of viewing this is through Jesus' teachings. We are to copy Jesus in everyway a life. Jesus never appointed a woman to be an apostle. This is very significant rather than basing on play of words. The apostles nowhere did they appoint a woman to lead a congregation. Back to Paul: 1 Timothy 2 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹¹ Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. ¹² But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. >> if we apply the logic given by the preacher, then in the next verses we have this: ¹³ For Adam (THE HUSBAND) was first formed, then Eve (THE WIFE). ¹⁴ And Adam (THE HUSBAND) was not deceived, but the woman(THE WIFE) being deceived was in the transgression. >> You see how illogical it becomes? That a wife was deceived and not a husband!!? No way!! This is surely a general statement to all women, not wives. ¹⁵ Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. The last verse is now pointing to women's God given role, taking care of her home. She is to make sure that children grow up knowing God, because the husband is busy with ministry work. Compare this with Proverbs: “The proverbs of Solomon. A wise son maketh a glad father: but a foolish son is the heaviness of his mother.” - Proverbs 10:1 (KJV) Amen

Ladies and gentlemen: how not to interpret the Bible. “Paul must’ve been wrong, or this must not be part of the Bible, because it contradicts my preconceived notions!”

This is simply a false teaching. We want to be contemporary instead of obedient. Most people don't like it or want to obey what's written. Many will find any interpretation to avoid the truth.

Thank you very much for teaching this. There are certain Scriptures that can be backed up by others that are teaching that women call also keep the high offices in the Body of Christ and are equal to man. Huge difference between the Holy Spirits instruction and teachings of man. God bless you.

Another two things that is incoherent is that Paul repeatedly used Old Testment scripture to drive several points so they at least had some knowledge of the Torah. Another thing is how are you going to say imperative when you mean expletive/exclamation. Write a manuscript and read the nonsense you're teaching people. If i were a atheist with basic literary knowledge and a decent ear I would heard 4-5 different inconsistencies and communicative errors.

There's a good chance that there were pagan women causing distraction based on the culture of Corinth back then.

That scripture is added in the bible,do your research. There is NO law anywhere that says a woman must remain silent. Theres so many verses added to Pauls teaching (for control) by you know who that its mind boggeling and preachers just keep on preaching what they are told.

Your trying to take tradition in a church to say that 1 Timothy 2:12 is invalid. It has nothing to do with the women and men being separated but everything to do with biblical order and how God designed the church amd the family to be. Led by men and supported by a God fearing women. Your manipulating scripture to make it appeal to your audience so they will give you more money. Sad.

In the video above Kris twists Scriptures out of context and questions the very inspiration of the the Scriptures. If you want to view the Scriptures as being fallible and you reduce it to just men's opinion then we aren't of the same faith and I won't waste my time with people who treat the Bible as a book written by mere men. I'd have to first argue this subject before I could even begin to debate what the Scriptures teach, I will assume you accept the Scriptures in there original text were inspired by the holy spirit, correct? Kris claims that he doesn't believe that Paul would have written that phrase; "it is the law" because he says that there is no law that says that, and Paul, a student of the law would know better than to say that. Really? I've written an article where I go through all the Scriptures that show how a wife must submit to her husband and show she isn't to teach in the congregation. There is no Scriptural gymnastics that anyone can do to cloud this subject because it is extremely clear. It even says, just as Sarah submitted herself to Abraham. So how can Kris chose to argue that it should not be rendered wife but woman, only then to argue the whole passage should be dismissed as not making sense when you take the whole book into context (which I suggest you always take Scripture in context). Again, I answered this in the article. In Jesus Christ there is no difference between a Jew and a gentile between a male and a female, all are one (equal) before Jesus Christ. Just as Jesus taught that in heaven there won't be marriages etc... which is why Joel 2 and Acts 2 emphasized the change that took place after Christ, the Spirit was poured out on all flesh and this included sons and daughters. Yes, Miriam did prophecy via the Spirit but that was the exception not the norm. However, after Christ the gifts of the Holy Spirit were poured out on all flesh. In the old testament it was only males and then only special men and priests, prophets and kings and a rare exception that a woman received the anointing of the Spirit. Getting back to Kris who said Paul didn't write that because he knew the law didn't teach that. Teach what? What Paul is saying is that the Bible does teach that women are to be submitted to their husbands and then he qualified it in another place with; "like Sarah submitted to Abraham". And as Gen 3:16 says; "..your desire shall be for your husband, and he will rule over you..." No one interprets that as man shall rule over women, it's a husband shall rule over his wife. And that is what the OT taught. So Kris is absolutely wrong here and it is the beginning of a very dangerous precedent, he just made Scripture subject to mens interpretation and that it really isn't the Word of God that we can all count on. Why is he rejecting the Word of God? Because women today demand that they be treated equal and that they can be pastors too. But this remains contrary to what is taught in both the OT and the NT. And the NT never, let me repeat this, the NT never contradicts the OT! Jer 31 and Joel 2 prophecy what was coming. Notice the sermon on the mount in Matt 5, all the "laws" weren't negated. As Jesus said; "...I didn't come to abolish the law...." and "not one jot nor title shall be done away with until heaven and earth is done away with..." So Jesus didn't do away with the OT but instead He fulfilled it. Let me explain, circumcision was a sign of putting off the flesh. So Paul taught that if you were circumcised in the heart that it mattered not if you were circumcised in the flesh. Notice, Paul wasn't abolishing circumcision but revealing the real meaning of it. In other words, types and shadows all point to the real article. As I explain in the article I wrote, the role of the man is to be the head over the wife, the role of the wife is to bear children. Only today in our perverse society do men want to be equal in our roles and today transmen are wanting to compete with women. The roles given to men and women are radically different. Women can not be a father to their children, not because they aren't spiritually equal before God but because the role of fathering was given to males and not to women. It has nothing to do with equality at all. Husbands don't want to bear children and wives should not want to father their children. In the same way, spiritual father are not females, they are males by divine providence and to change this is to change the Scriptures, just as mothering is only possible by a mother/wife. A father or male can try to mother, perhaps with a little success but that role is given to the mother. No one can argue with this because it is 100% based on the Scriptures and isn't subject to men's opinions nor cultural trends.

forgive them Goddess they no not what they do. Separation of men and women.

@J howe, In the way that you have questioned me, it sounds very much like you are a judge. Like you are trying to box me into the very ideas that you possess in your mind as righteousness. I will not comply. I would like to bring your attention in Romans 8:9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,and19.You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you.And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.10.But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive becuase of righteousness. 11.And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you. 12.Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation--- but it is not to the sinful nature, to live according to it. 13.For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live, 14. Because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.15.For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you receved the Spirit of sonship. (a)And by him we cry ,"Abba"(b) Father."16.The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.17.Now if we are children, then we are heirs---heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.18.I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19. The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed.

Unfortunately Kris is attempting to write another gospel. Dangerous territory! Too many other scriptures that support the opposite of Kris's conclusion. I Tim 2:11 - 15 among many others. David Platt has a much more contextual and accurate study on this. See his youtube video entitled, "What about women Paul".

First off, Paul is not God. Jesus is. And Jesus respected and honored women. The person who was entrusted to raise and teach the Son of God was a woman. Mary's role in Jesus' life didn't end at His birth. It began. And who did Jesus entrust with the most important announcement in the entire history of the world? It wasn't doubting Thomas, or Peter who had denied him three times, or James and John who requested special recognition above all others. It was Mary Magdalene, who was given the instructions to announce the resurrection of the Savior to the highest male authorities in the church. And they didn't believe her. Because culturally they did not respect women. Jesus could have appeared to the men first - but He didn't. He chose a woman. Secondly, the scripture of women keeping silent in the churches has led to incredible destruction and heartache for women and children. Men have used this scripture to oppress women - not just in the church but outside of the church as well. If women were supposed to be a help to men, then why didn't men allow them to help? God gave at least the equal amount of intelligence, creativity, talents, and spirituality to women as He gave to men, and did men use this to create a better world? Nope. Instead they treated women as slaves and objects. They raped them, sent their children to war, created more war, and more war, and more war which women had to fight in both on the field and at the home front. They prevented women from obtaining educations and skills to provide for their families. They forced them into prostitution. They sold women. They married children. They committed all manner of sins against women and girls while using the bible as justification for it. That is the fruit of this "scripture". Third - if women are supposed to be submissive to men, then men are to be submissive to God. When men are not submissive to God, then women need not listen to men since men are not following God. Have men been submissive to God? Nope. Not at all. See above. God does not expect women to follow men to hell. Therefore it is required that women speak up and lead the way to God since men are not doing it. Men have had thousands of years to get this right and they still refuse to. Fourth - John MacArthur's telling Beth Moore to "go home" was completely out of line. He has no jurisdiction over her. He is not her husband, or her pastor, or anyone with authority over her. And "go home" is equal to "shut up." When John gave a sermon answering his position on this, it was filled with venom towards women. Ignoring all the atrocities of men, he reduced women to gossipers, and declared that the worst thing that could happen to a woman is that she goes bald. She can be gang raped, have her home burned down and her children murdered, but as long as she has her hair, then the worst thing hasn't happened. Clearly a man who thinks that women's only concern is her appearance has no business telling women to go home and shut up. He should not be advising women in any way since he doesn't even care to understand them. Fifth - no one is forced to listen to a woman pastor. If you don't like women pastors, then you can go listen to male pastors who hate and disrespect women. You are free to do that. Sixth - this is a control issue. People who are upset about women pastors want to control what other people believe. That has never gone well. Wars have been fought over one group forcing another group to agree with them. Believe what you want to believe, and allow others to do the same. Leave it up to God.

At 3:38 Kris literally lies about what something means in Greek. That is the Greek more meaning or, either. It is translated in every English version I have read as or. It is not the end of a verse but the beginning of the next. He has literally purposely changed scripture. How do people not see this deception from this wolf? He is lying to people.

Any woman that desires or pursues positions of authority over men in church is obviously in a state of active rebellion against God, since in Genesis 3:16 God cursed the woman saying that her desires shall be after her husband and that he shall rule over her! Moreover, in the following verse, Genesis 3:17 God curses Adam explicitly saying that Adam is being punished because he had listened to the voice of his wife!!! Therefore all things presented by this man in the video, are the words of a son of disobedience. He is self deceiving himself at best, deceiving also others but it is also possible that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. This man is in a state of active rebellion and disobedience towards God Himself and therefore he is not of God but of his father, the devil! Himble yourselves all of you who go against the word of God. Repent and fear God. Or face His wrath. Choice is yours. As for this man, may anyone who teaches falsehood be accursed! Amen!

He cannot even read 1 Cor 11:3 correctly, to wit, ". . . and the man is the head of a woman . . ." not "and man is the head of every woman" marriage is the reason for headship a man and a woman. Bethel contains such appalling teaching. 2 Timothy 4:3-4. The seeds sown by false teachers and false prophets sprouts toxic weeds that make many sick. The history of the church is replete with examples that have given us the Jehovah Witnesses, Christian Science, Mormonism, United Apostolic Penticostals, etc., etc. READ YOUR BIBLES ! 1 John 2:27. If the Spirit of God dwells in you. Do not always desire that which is sweet. Rev. 10:9-10

Kris Vallotton.... I'm sorry sir but, you do not know a lick of Greek. I'm the equivalent to a first year Greek student and can tell you don't even know the Greek alphabet. (That little "n" thingy...) It's pronounced, 'a' (eta) and it's a conjunctive or it can be a disjunctive particle! In this case, 'or' is not at the end of the sentence, it's at the beginning of the next one. It marks a contrast to pose a question. Contrary to his assertion that nobody translates this and there's no perfect translation for it (yet Kris translates it as, "what"), a first year Greek student can and does and the Bible translators do, as well! Yes, the Greek word, γυναίκα means, universally, a woman of any age, whether a virgin, or married, or a widow. However, that doesn't give you license to exchange one meaning over another, just so you can twist it for your justification of what you practice in "church". The context of the whole sentence determines the meaning and in this case, it refers to a wife! It is telling when a preacher bends over backwards to twist the meaning of the scriptures into the exact opposite of what they actually teach, all in an attempt to justify what you practice in church and is clearly in defiance of scripture. There is so much false teaching and practices coming out of Bethel, it's hard to even call it "Christian"...

Kris you are not fit to teach Paul’s teaching. You need milk. 1 Cor 3:2, Hebrews 5:12-13, 1 Peter 2:2

This is doctrine of the devil. The bible clear on women not preaching or teaching. And he needs to get him a kjv and stay out that devil version of the bible.

his wife gave him permission to preach this sermon

pure serpent seed!

It's improper for a women to speak in church. Easy. Stop confusing people.

wow this should get Kris fired at Bethel. He is literally preaching nonsense.