Keeper Collars - Hidden Prong Collars 

Only ever owned Herm Sprenger after our first use of one. Works better than other brands. Herm Sprenger has round edges and it’s Humane unlike other prong collars. Love Herm Sprenger! The quality is amazing! I only use the 2mm one for both of my huge German Shepherd dogs. I even bought the couple dollar covers they sell with the collars. You can still tell they are prong if someone really looks and the chain shows. But I don’t care. My dogs yelped when I only used a regular flat dog collar, with this they yelped once when they ran after putting it on, now they sit and wait to be hooked up and heel. When they see me pull one out, they know it’s time to have a walk, run, or ride outside of our yard. Otherwise, not even a flat collar when home. Also, I and as for others put it on ourselves and yanked very hard. Doesn’t hurt at all! Thought it would even with round edges. Nope! And I learned the correct place to put it on the dog…behind the ears high up on neck and snug. And you don’t yank, you use air quotes I call it. I use two fingers to tap the leash to move the collar. If they ever were needing more control than a finger tap leash correction, I just do a light quick flick of the wrist. Gentle but works!

You’re totally right but for example I live in some country in Europe which the prong is banned and the fine can be around few thousand euros so it’s better to use some cover…

It's not exactly that i care what others think, it's more that it's illegal to use it here in new zealand.

Well said! I too have been a K-9 handler for many years. Both protection and detection dogs. RU-vid gives a platform to EVERYONE and in turn, you get moron comments from those who know nothing about the dog or the training and tools that specific dog requires. I hope you stick to your guns against these people with these misinformed and one sided comments and continue selling awesome products and producing amazing well informative videos. As a military working dog handler and now an explosive dog handler in the private sector, you have a customer for life and will always continue to move people towards your web page for great information and products.

They claim the science disproves you and provide no scientific literature to back themselves up. That in itself shows what they know.

So why not make these tools (which can so EASILY be misused) illegal for anyone but licenced K9 Handlers to buy and use? Normal pet dog owners can use other tools, and do not need prong collars or shock collars to train their dogs. Don't forget most dog owners DON'T properly know how to use a prong collar / shock collar and WILL misuse it.

Leerburg Ed you need to disable comments because you will get allot of hate from these all positive “trainers.” I know these collars do not hurt the dog. Owners who scoff at the prong collar are the same ones who use a flat collar and their dog is choking themselves. People just need to use one and they would understand why they arnt bad and why they work so well. And yes I have used them on myself before and they don’t hurt. I use them. Anyway Ed don’t get discouraged by negative feed back. I really wish that the dog training community was one of shared ideas and communication and one of hatred and malice. The problem is we want to communicate with the dogs but not with each other. People are kind to dogs and treat a person who disagrees with them like crap. It’s honestly sad. There’s nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone but you don’t have to be cruel to them just tell them why you disagree and how you think they can do it better. Ps. ANY tool can be used to abuse a dog weather by accident or on purpose. Their is a right way to use a prong collar and a defiant no no way for sure.

I don't use a flat collar. I use a harness not any type of collar at all - if my dog slips down a ditch, or gets scared and bolts, I don't want her to hurt her neck hitting the end of the leash even on a flat collar. Bonus with the harness is it can be used as a handle to lift dogs out of rivers / ditches / ponds etc that they can't get out of on their own (my dog is kind of fearless / stupid and jumps or falls into things like this and then looks at me for help when she can't get out).

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You can use a head collar and if that’s not good enough you can use a two leash harness and there are many other ways. And if you have to hide the fact that you’re using one it means you’re ashamed of using it. I’m not hating on every person that uses a prong collar but if it’s something you believe in, why hide it?

A head collar is way way worse.

They're always cruel. Teach your dog how to walk on a leash properly you muppet

@@joshuas637 My 90 lb male Doberman is dog aggressive. I would love to see one of you anti prong geniuses try to control him when another dog shows up. I ended up tying his leash to a picnic table and I sat on one side (190lbs) and my buddy (240 lbs) sat on the other side. My dog pulled us and the table to the ground and broke the legs off of one end of it. That stopped happening when I trained him with a prong collar. I'm sure a Tier 1 Super Trainer will be along soon to correct me.

@@dickgozinya9228 lol "try to control him when a dog shows up" how about you teach him what to do when a dog shows up instead of assuming he'll train himself?

Julian Rodriguez yeah thats why i want one of these because my dog bent the metal on his because a dog ran at us and there wouldve been a fight if he didnt have the second collar

The ENTIRE POINT of a prong collar is to induce pain. How could you possibly be so fucking dumb?

@@joshuas637 haha you're either fucking dumb or you're a troll. You want the prongs to apply pressure/pinch, not cut or pierce your dog!

@@joshuas637 The ENTIRE POINT of a prong collar is NOT to induce pain, but to create a noticeable effect to your dog that is perfectly timed to its actions. It does not cause pain if it's used correctly.

Guinea Lumps normal collars are pretty dangerous honestly they choke where as the prong evenly disperses pressure across the neck and doesnt choke. Haltis can even cause neck or snout injuries

I bought their disguised prong collar with the extremely tough nylon outer layer and I highly recommend it. because everything I read about prong collars lets you know that they could break and you need to attach them to another collar which in opinion is really lame.

I can only say is that I also have a crazy, tornadic ,Aussie.Shes's smart as a whip,so devoted and gorgeous to look at Her leash manners are so out of control I can't take her anywhere. I'm just introducing her to it and so far 👍👍.Thanks for sharing your story I thought I was the only one✌

Me too!!! Pretty much word for word now that i wasted all summer trying to get her to walk properly 2 minutes in a prong and she is ready for all kinds of other training check walking off the list

@@Baked_intell boom.... I just had a miracle overnight with a rescue who was terrified. Best decision I ever made! Congrats!

Front fastening harnesses are known for causing issues with rubbing and creating sores along with muscle damage. There is no such thing as force free options for walking dogs other than off leash

@@sebbychickentoes2220 wow, you're intelligence is approaching zero

@@ivotenotocensorship5247 It's odd that you question the man's intelligence while not understanding something as simple as the difference between the words you're and your. Again, the dumbest among us have turned into the loudest among us.

@@williamdavis9562 cool story SoyBoyAlert

@@williamdavis9562 what's more odd is wasting an entire paragraph of absolute nonsense because of a grammar error on a RU-vid comment section which was typed via swipe. So, since you're projecting intelligence on these merits, it means your bar is set pretty low. 👍 -sincerely - The shmuck who made a grammar error on RU-vid 👏

@@ivotenotocensorship5247 A grammatical error or a type is one thing, literally not knowing what a word means is a different thing all together. The fact you're using words you don't know the meanings of while questioning another person's intelligence is funny to say the least and warrants a bit of laughter no?

These aren't new, and Leerburg didn't create them.

Oliver Santikham I’m not fully against prongs but come on, if they didn’t cause some discomfort/pain they wouldn’t work. If you’re going to use any training tool you need to know how and why it works, whether it’s a clicker or a prong Also you’ve got it backwards, a standard collar has more surface area and thus causes less pain and this is why dogs can still pull with it. Prongs have less surface area and cause “all the pressure to go to one point” the prongs.

@@turkeyburglarjones6148 You're wrong there, it's not backwards, and dogs respond to pain or stimulation differently. The standard collar having more 'surface' area does not equate to a more safe collar. If you've ever seen a dog pull you can visibly see the immense strain and pressure under their necks which have a lot of vital areas, though it may not be painful to the dog as it's natural for them as well. A prong collar is very stimulating and is a more effective tool to communicate with a dog.

Brian M. I’m not saying flat collars are safer to pull on compared to a prong. I agree that a prong is better than letting them choke themselves. But obviously if it causes them to react it means there’s some kind of discomfort. You’re proving my point. “A prong collar is more stimulating” By having more surface area it’s not “safer” it’s just dulled to the dog so they won’t feel much discomfort when they pull

​@@HondaFan470 He never said it equates to a more safe collar. He explained how the collar works and did a good job doing so. "Prong collars don't hurt dogs" is ridiculous. The pain they cause is much more than a flat collar because it pinches the skin on the dog's neck. It doesn't do internal damage because the dog responds quickly to that sharp pain instead of pulling through a bit of moderate pain like they would on a choker or flat collar and because it is a martingale style that prevents it from closing too far.

Jeanmarie Todd you can’t tell that I’m not defending a flat collar for pulling can you? and you miss the point, prongs cause a level of discomfort or they literally wouldn’t work but I’m not saying it’s bad. But yeah that’s what I’m saying, a flat collar has more surface area do they can pull harder and crush more. Prongs don’t allow that

JAE SIN DnB Hello; you seem like you’ve exhausted every option to conclude that your dog needs a prong collar. While that can be a perfectly reasonable conclusion, I would like to make an inquiry: How many different things did you try before deciding that a prong collar was the only option? Did you ever seek help from a positive reinforcement trainer first?

Everything Animals in my case i have and the trainers recommended a prong after my dog would try to kill himself on a halti even after desensitization. He is very good on a prong and is getting better without one.

The fact you cannot control your dog without a training tool suggests to me you shouldn't own dogs...

@@abipike4055 All dogs pull until learned not too with a tool. No different than a harness.

@@abipike4055 you need training “tools” to start off somewhere. Dogs aren’t born listening to your very command.

I just started using one of these, having received Galen's Keeper Collar just a week ago. Mine was purchased directly from Keeper Collars. The pinch action is not hampered at all by the leather portion, and there is no diminished response from my dog. One of the things involved with that is the way the prongs are attached, via elastic bands. This allows free movement of the attached prongs without limiting them. I can't attest to the long-term function of the plastic buckle, as I only just got my collar, but I've gone over every aspect of the collar carefully, given that it was pretty expensive (they have beautiful custom ribbons for them now, which cover the outer webbing). The plastic of the buckle is not overly hard (harder plastics are more brittle), which is the primary reason behind breakage of such devices. The thickness is quite even, and not skimpy. These analyses come from my scientific background and knowledge of chemistry and physics. I see such a buckle lasting many years without breakage. One other thing I really like about the design is the omission of prongs where it sits over the dog's trachea. The elastic bands are still there, so additional prongs can be added into that location, if needed, but that extra width between the prongs in the very front , without modifying, definitely adds an additional safety factor.

By the way, Keeper Collars custom make every single one purchased on their site, and you have the choice in colors of the leather, the webbing, and a selection of beautiful ribbons that are sewn on to accent the webbing. Galen's collar has metallic turquoise leather, burgundy webbing, and a beautiful multi-colored "arrowhead" ribbon decoration with gold accents... and it also has the brass hardware upgrade, which was only $6 more.

IF (and that's a big if based on the quality of the buckle) the plastic buckle did eventually break, then yes, the entire collar would come off.

Thank you so much for your astute, insightful, scientific and helpful reply. That concisely answered my questions. I will get one soon. Thanks again.

it looks like a Martingale with prongs inside. A Martingale tightens almost like a prong collar, so I would expect nearly the same result for a dog.

I wanted to update, 4 years later I’m still using Keeper Collars hidden prong collar. This makes unruly walkers behave without harming. It acts as a mental reminder to my younger male Sawyer (husky/aussie mix) that I’m in control and not him. And it’s much kinder than choking your dog to death on a failed harness. In fact my Sister who initially felt this collar was “mean” has changed her mind. Her pitbull is the most annoying to walk and out of control when meeting other dogs. This collar manages her without pain, has limited her choking herself like with all the other traditional collars/harnesses. I wouldn’t use this for all day wear like long day hikes but anytime you’re walking your dog, perhaps on road trip stops, etc. or are concerned about behavior interacting with ppl and other dogs… this collar is excellent.

1 year on, do you still use the prong? Did you have any issues arise?

Heidi - you could try training (to get your dog's attention) versus force. Easy if you know how!

If a dog yelps, the collar is being used wrong. These collars are not meant to inflict pain, but rather use even pressure as a signal against pulling Every person I know who uses prong collars has been quite happy with he results, and thus far, so am I, and I used to be horribly against them.

@@dubitabam9626 How can that be done?

I live in a country where thanks to PETA (pets are better off dead than slaves of their human servants, inc) they are illegal. And I have a high drive boy who outweighs me. So, I depend on being able to hide my collar. Or face him being put to death - because if a Jack Russel attacks him, and he defends himself? Well - he's big and black and a Jack is 'cute'.

Shaun Loftus What do you mean by "pets are better off dead than slaves of their human servants, inc?"

PETA as an organization doesn't approve of keeping animals as pets, as they consider it a form of exploitation. PETA 'shelters' are high-kill places, as PETA considers death to be more humane. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/killing-animals-petas-open-secret_us_59e78243e4b0e60c4aa36711

First of all, please understand I’m not here to hate. I’m here to raise some points that will ultimately bring light to my position in the dog training community. I think it’s important to remember that ignorance is defined by not being open to the truth of any given matter. Opposition to ignorance means we should be more than willing to explore the different standpoints and the sources that back them. Let me make my position clear: I am a dog owner which utilizes the method of positive reinforcement to teach my dogs what to do. When seeking a way to discourage a behavior, I examine what that behavior is and then choose the corresponding solution. For example, I may use negative punishment for a behavior like jumping but for fear aggression I would use desensitization and counter-conditioning. When it comes to positive punishment, it is my understanding that the whole purpose of such a quadrant is to use a stimulus the dog doesn’t desire to stop a behavior. This stimulus can range from a beep to a high-level shock. There are many other things far and in between, such as the prong collar. My biggest problem is this: No dog absolutely needs an aversive tool. Every dog can learn through other methods of training. So why purposely add something your dog doesn’t like to his training plan when you can achieve the same results through praise, redirection, management and differential reinforcement? It doesn’t seem like something I would choose to do unless it was compulsory, however it is not and because of that I do not stand by them. I do not think they are abusive. That’s disrespectful towards actual victims of abuse. I think they’re unnecessary and too easy to be “improperly used” and even properly, they’re meant to make the dog want to avoid it. That’s not a relationship I want to have with my pet. If you would like research about any of my claims above, I would be happy to provide such. In turn, I will gladly read and consider any studies you may send me about your position. Best regards, Everything Animals.

LPS Pawz Productions peta montra.

yes it's exactly what the mother would have done! lol, this is the only positive comment I've seen on here lol,

A Bitch grabbing her pup' sneck is nothing like the pain these things cause. A well trained dog who respects his/her handler does not pull, and respect is not got via giving pain.

And you think yanking a dog is the only way to train it?? I didn't train my dog by yanking on the leash at all, there are other, better methods.

Agreed...no yanking necessary.

Oakleaf700 it doesnt cause pain it causes mild pressure. It can cause pain if used wrong.

German shepherd Lover its not just for that

Did you not watch the video ? This isn't just a "hidden prong".....

We hope you like it! The Keeper Collars are our most popular collar!

towboatslim b the only time it could break the skin is if it was too tight and if you yank on it. Most injuries arise from improper use id recommend talking to a trainer.

If I have to use a prong, I've only had to use it a couple of months. There may be exceptions to this if you have a large dog and you are physically handicapped or other reasons.

L T small 2,25mm

Nemo Guevara it might not be fitted right

We do have them in orange: leerburg.com/keepercollarbucklesnap-ext.htm

Have you looked into training your dog not to pull on the leash? Here's a great DVD we offer with Tyler Muto on dogs that pull on the leash: leerburg.com/looseleashwalkingdvd.php

Prong collar is the only thing that worked for my german shepherd. I tried everything. Harness, martingale, electric, even paid someone to train him (which they could not do). I decided to go with a prong collar. After the very first walk, he began to stop pulling and started to actually listen to my commands. He never hurts or anything like that, but he knows that ots much more enjoyable to go for a walk without constantly pulling. And now I have the best relationship ever with him. I still consider it a miracle. No joke. Very happy with the prong collar.

Yep. Train your dog with legit techniques not abuse your dog.

I agree with your sentiment completely, but neither are necessary at all if you follow the basic three-prong approach: 1) teach the dog to give to gentle leash pressure 2) exercise the dog until it's tired before a training walk and 3) do separate training for attention outside, in increasingly distracting environments. If you do this, along with rewarding heavily for walking politely (then gradually fade out the reinforcers once the behavior is solid), it works... I've reformed MANY extreme pullers (large/giant breed dogs, aggressive & reactive dogs, etc.) this way without the need for any leash corrections or choke/prong/ecollars at all.👍

Jeanmarie Todd Thank you. I took your advice and got my new Leerburg hidden collar last week. I got it in pink. 👍👍✌

More aesthetically pleasing to some people to each their own, ill keep using standard as well

Wow gee good for you. I've worked for four years, using Susan Garrett's methods, and a host of reinforcement techniques for walking, and yet the opportunists they are, my dog still pulls. Talk to me again about lazy?? I'm not using one for pulling, and also, that's just ONE application of the collar... I just put cues on different paces of walking. But I have used one previously on a positively trained dog, because he would lunge at cats, and I'm in a wheelchair. It was management for a period. But I'd be judged, because ooooh, it's a prong. Nevermind I didn't correct with it. Positive trainers could also use a dose of learning about other applications, too. Even if you choose not to, it's not always some awful abusive thing. The other quadrants work, and there are just as thoughtful trainers using those as there is those who are not. Stop saying it's lazy. All training of a dog is work. To do it well. Sounding high and mighty turns off people.

Leerburg didn't invent this!

How dare you! How about trying to hide it because of rude people who accuse you of animal abuse on the street. It's very unnerving when people accuse you of abusing your dog when you know well he is loved and the device they are calling "abuse" is actually keeping him safe. I have an 150lb great dane, who is very high energy. He is an avid puller and lunger. He is not good with other dogs, especially small ones. He also has a high prey drive and will run after anything that moves. I simply didn't have the strength to try and teach him on anything but a prong collar. He can easily pull me over and it got to the point where I didn't feel safe walking him because he was pulling me onto the street and confronting other dogs. I was hesitant at first, because it looked scary, but the minute I put a (high quality) prong collar on him he stopped pulling. It was a dream. He is not fearful, he is not in any pain. I put the collar around my own neck and all it does is pinch. Sure, the pinching is not a comfortable feeling, but it's certainly not animal abuse. And the best part? He hardly feels the pinching anymore! Because he doesn't pull! Wow, what a concept. And did I mention he has no food motivation? He couldn't care less if you have a treat in your hand. And even if he was food motivated I don't want to stuff treats in his mouth because of the high risk of bloat in great danes. You're not supposed to feed them while they are being active (aka don't give them a meal full of treats while you're on walk). The prong collar is a life saver for many people. It's not cruel, and it's not lazy.

trainergirl I wish I could add love

So people can't judge them I guess lol

Several reasons... 1. so uneducated and judgmental people (like I used to be) don't criticize a properly used, safe training tool (in case you DO wish to learn about it, via scientific studies, I recommend starting with a keyword search of German, study, prong, and collar. then click the link for "A Study on Prong collars." ), 2. Aesthetics. A lot of people don't like the utilitarian look of a regular prong, and want something that looks pretty (when you get these directly from Keeper Collars, you can fully customize the design... leather color, webbing color, and a selection of pretty ribbons that can be sewn over the webbing). 3. This particular prong collar separates the prongs into two distinct rows, leaving a wide space in the front over where the trachea is, which creates an added level of protection should a very strong dog suddenly lunge (which I've never experienced... My dog would lunge before using this collar, but hasn't lunged since, and all pulling is corrected instantly).

Watch the video. He explains in detail, lazy bones.

In many EU countries they are illegal...

xyz qrs America is the best country for a reason

Why would you want to?

two reasons. One, sometimes a prong collar will come apart and this will make it much less likely. Two, sometimes busy bodies will hassle you for using a prong collar. I know it is not their business but sometimes it is just better to avoid the argument.

correct. and a good example is at a dog rescue event or as a volunteer at a shelter as you walk desperate dogs. anything that distracts and agitates ignorant people (like a loud complainer who is uneducated) interferes with helping dogs that need help on leash to learn to follow a handler... and get adopted.

He did try it on himself in a video

Our alot people don't know how to use a prong collar.

because human skin is more sensitive than dog skin????

Prong collars aren't for every dog or every situation. They are a tool. I have recommended prong collar for a 98-pound woman with a young Great Dane that was going to cause serious harm to her and nothing else was working. This saved the dog from being rehomed and the owner from getting hurt. I've used one on my 45 pound Belgian Laekenois that was going to seriously harm her neck from pulling in a regular collar. I've trained dogs for 30 years and she had me stumped. I try all positive methods first, but finally put her in a pinch and she got it. After a month she was fine in a regular collar.

we make them as small as 7 inches by request , with the micro prongs

A micro prong, for dogs weighing LESS than 5lbs???? When would that ever be needed?? everyone is saying trainers who know what they are doing, know how to use a prong collar correctly, if the same trainers cannot work with a dog weighing less than 5lb then they need to look at what they are doing.

Dogs need to learn to be dogs.. and carreing them abd treating them like children is not always the best for the dog .. but putting a small prong collar on a small head strong dog can help them be less of the leader and more the follower in the pack which helps them be a happier dog .. the prong let the owner correct the dog with the slightest presser with out having to bend over the dog putting g more pressure ( body pressure) on them .. It is how there mother dog corrected them with a slight nip to the neck when they were pups.. It's a way of speaking dog rather then trying to teach the to speak human.

louise0elizabeth yeah my dog used to be reactive to barking dogs but now he just looks at them

Used properly there is no pain involved unlike flat collars and chokers

The collar that hides it allows an extra barrier of safety to stop the prong falling apart or coming off, and also they have a VERY bad rep so it stops verbal abuse from other owners (my guess!)

@@zarabailey2960 I get what you’re saying, but when I believe something is right I'm not going to hide it as though I were doing something wrong. If anything, having someone approach me with an opposing viewpoint gives me an opportunity to share what I believe and why, and maybe even get them to think a little differently about the subject. IMO, hiding something is a sign of a guilty conscience- either you believe in something or you don't, but either way you should definitely stand by your opinion.

@Johanna I suppose, but at the same time, I would rather not waste time talking to people who *might* change their mind when I have shit to do. I’d prefer to go on a walk and people not have to stop me to talk about the tool I use. I do understand your point but it I imagine it gets exhausting having to explain to people no that it’s not abuse and no it’s not hurting my dog and no i don’t need to go to hell etc. But if people ask how my dog walks so nicely on the leash, then I would be happy to explain.

I actually think this makes the prong collar look 'pretty.' AND this looks way easier to put on and off. Hate having to pinch. I could care less about anyone seeing it. I have my dog on both a prong AND an e-collar.

@@shirleychi964 That's fine, but also begs the question if the prong works, why use the ecollar? (Or vice versa).

Clueless!

Frances, they don't hurt. Yeah, I have tried it on myself. You should put one on your own neck and have someone 'pop' it - and you would discover this. I love my dog past all understanding, to the point of cooking his meals. He is obedient, well-mannered, well behaved, and charming. He is also 120 pounds of muscle - and being huge and black, no matter the provocation, any fight will be my guys 'fault' (it shocks me that MOST owners will allow their dogs almost any level of aggression without even noticing it, and certainly not correcting it). A flat collar, a choke collar, a harness puts MY beloved boy into danger - not only from the risk of damage to his larynx, but the risk of him behaving like a normal red-blooded boy and defending himself when faced with outright aggression from other males with owners who do not understand that a stiff back, bristled fur and direct eye contact from their dog is AGGRESSION. My dog mostly doesn't NEED a collar or leash - he walks quite nicely without it. But if another dog threatens him, or a human male threatens me (and this has happened) - I need to control that the pinch collar gives me - not because I am lazy (my dog responds to hand gestures) - but because I need to keep my dog SAFE.

If prong collars are used properly they are good. They are not an instant tool that all of a sudden make your dog well behaved. They are a tool and should not be used all the time. Some dogs do not need them and that is fine and if you don't like a prong collar like this there is a training collar called a starmark collar and that is what I am using right now training my 12lb feist but I will stop using it in about a week because he is almost done with training. Not trying to be mean just saying my opinion.

I don't know what to say.

I agree with you Angela. This collar is yet another way to make profit. it's all about profit. Training has nothing to do with it.

Lol! Another clueless comment.

yess.. and no.. go seeing the channel of tyler muto.. i would not call him "lazy trainer" but a great trainer. nobody says you can't use the prong collar, but if you use ANY instrument correctly, this goes fine, imho.

I use a harness when I need my dog to pull heavy carts.

Harnesses actually promote pulling example sled dogs. Trainers do not like normal harnesses because they are counter productive, you see many sport dogs that do bite work wear harnesses because when held it builds their drive.

Harnesses encourage pulling, smartass.

So sad. You've obviously not owned dogs that want to rip your shoulder out! All dogs are different! This is not 1950's training, idiot! He works with Michael Ellis, one of the best young trainers in the country.

If you put a prong collar around your leg, it does not hurt your leg. The prongs are evenly positioned, and slightly pinches when used properly. Unlike the trachea damage that a flat collar inflicts when your dog pulls, the prongs don't damage at all.

I hate you dame "animal activists" as you like to call yourself's. I love dogs, but your "positive reinforcement" methods don't work unless you always have treats to give.

It's not animal activists Michelle. And positive reinforcement does indeed work....all of Leerburg's trainers use it. It's not about always having treats to give...that's not good training.

Michelle whether you think prongs are great training tools or not please understand that that is not how positive reinforcement training works lol. You think they never phase out treats and rewards?? Whatever training side you're on they both WORK WHEN DONE CORRECTLY. There was even a study done to see if either method is better and the conclusion? They both get the same results. End of story. And I have news for you, treats aren't the only thing rewarding to dog. Play is, praise could be, even something simple like letting the dog do sniff something it really just depends on the dog. And it seems you don't know the difference between animal welfare people and animal rights people. I don't know about you but it is rather annoying when ignorant people have a say in things that are important isn't it?

did it occur to you the collar is not designed to 'hide' something ? you assumed that.

Wrong. Most people prefer something aesthetically pleasing, and given the number of available designs, these are quite attractive/ Moreover, it deters people such as I once was.from targeting people with ignorant reasons as to why a prong collar should be be used. To top this off, it's even safer than most due to a large gap over where the trachea would be I'd like to share a study in German For those referring to these a "pinch" collars and causing pain, yo obviously have outdated information. The prongs on these collars are quire blunted with a mechanism of action of pressure application which feels like a gentle massage under normal use ( and pinpoint pressure evenly distributed around the neck when corrections are mad This particular collar even has a gap where the trachea would lay. There is very little discomfort involved, and what discomfort there is still remains a sensation of pressure, not pinching or poking. In my dog's case, I even went a step further, purchasing prong covers in order to prevent discomfort from the cod when weather is dreadful Like the naysayers, I used to be 100% against them, but my reference was flawed, and based on pictures I saw from hr happens if a dog is abused by collars. The pictures and their connected articles were biased, without any personal experiences, and only looked at the results of abusing this tool. Now, if you want to talk abuse... I tried all alternatives prior to the Keeper Collar. Galen would not accept ANY halter, NewTrix, Gentle Leader, and Halti. I have over 20 years experience with halter collars, and Galen is the first dog I've had who refused to accept one, mo matter what positive reinforcement I provided. He pawed until his tongue bled, so I stopped using it. Next, I tried an "Easy Walk" harness with a front clip. While it helped some, it did not help well. Moreover, no mater how I adjusted and padded it, it would cause serious chafing. At the recommendation of Galen's breeder, as well as our trainers with the service dog organization (which, BTW, doesn't use prong collars except as a last resort, as was the case with me), I started research such collars, for while my opinion had been that they are cruel, I had been reluctant to try one on him. My initial use of it was under supervision from our trainers. The effect was early instantaneous. Galen is now a well behaved and happy soul, maintaining his heel perfectly, even when other dogs are around. Here is one such article on the safety research for Prong collars: I weighed the benefits vs. Risks, and made the best choice possible based design and safety... The Keeper collar. At first I was hesitant to use it, but when Galen behavior showed immediate improvements, I felt my assumptions to be erroneous. The use of this collar was a last resort, , but Galen's improved happiness when walking on leash has brought greatly improved all negative behaviors In addition, there is less strain on by spine, which has had several fusions in the upper back ind neck to restore instability. I strongly suggest not commenting negative and unsubstantiated crap if it's not something you have experiencing using in a proper .manner. A safety study can be found on this site: k9-trainer.com/infopages/general%20information/correction%20collars.html Again, please educate yourselves without spouting off against them. The images sites against their use show only what happens if these collars are abused. My dog ONLY wears his at times when he is eager to get to his destination, or when encountering an aggressive dog (Galen has zero aggression). Are prong collars for everyone? No. As I said, in the past I only used halters. However, when used correctly it proves to be an effective and nonviolent training tool, but one that should be under taken with due diligence. I would implore those with doubts to learn the benefits a service dog can provide as well. Again, please educate yourselves without spouting off against them. The images sites against their use show only what happens if these collars are abused. My dog ONLY wears his at times when he is eager to get to his destination, or when encountering an aggressive dog(Galen has zero aggression). Are prong collars for everyone? No. As I said, in the past I only used halters. However, when used correctly it proves to be an effective and nonviolent training tool, but one that should be under taken with due diligence. I would implore those with doubts to learn the benefits a service dog can provide as well.y that was performed on the long term use of prong collars, for it (among other things) was responsible for my change of heart about them. Most naysayers do so out of ignorance, seeing only those aspects where the collars have been misused. When used properly, they don't hurt the dog. Trying it on myself felt like a gentle massage, particularly with the hard rubber covers I put on to help any chill that may take place with metal exposure.

not true. the advantage of this one is that i don't have to work the prongs which i find too difficult, along with the fact that it won't come undone because the prongs are sewn in and it has either a buckle or snap closure. this is a fantastic tool and my dog loves when i bring it out. it means he's going for a good walk, along with the e-collar.

Steffi Maier it's not "hiding" it. it is literally giving more stability and more sizing options. plus more safety for owner and dog.

tell me that if you saw a prong collar on a golden retriever you would have a different initial thought than if you saw it on a pitbull or a rottie? both dogs may need a little reminding not to pull because they get so excited to take a walk and meet new people. Both are perfectly well behaved and friendly dogs but the pitbull would definitely be assumed to be aggressive if seen with a prong collar while the golden would most likely be assumed to be I'll-trained or excitable out in public. Don't bash the methods if you don't have experience with people running the other way from your dog or crossing the street while they glare at you in judgement because you have a "killer dog. P.s. never has he yelped or cringed or notified me in any way that he was in pain...and yes i know because i raised him from a 5lb puppy.

Pleas explain

Hahaha, dog skin is thinner than human skin? What kind of dog are you talking about? Have you ever microchipped a German Shepherd? Then you would know how thick that skin really is, and you wouldn't make this kind uneducated comments. OMG!

LOL! Where do u people come from!

Common Sense: Your comment is objectionable. You think hurting animals is a joke? You say "Hahaha". As a former Bengal cat breeder, and having held many kittens while my vet microchipped, I can tell you that it has nothing to do with shock collars and why you would even make a comparison is ridiculous.

tiaredancer It's obvious that u know nothing about the proper use of prong collars or e collars so why comment?

gsdsteve You ought to do a little research before you spout off like this and look like a total fool.

Oh really! People like u are why a lot of dogs are put down. E collars and prong collars are great tools depending on the dog!

Do you punish a bitch when she uses a bite to correct the behavior of her pups?

Lol! These guys are much better trainers than u could ever be!

Really? Sick of this sanctimonious crap from "positive" trainers. It's driving me away. All training is real training. All dogs are different, and it's a choice. Go for it, do your thing, and best of all, SHOW your results. Stop making your position by bashing other training.

I am 100% agree with you! I had trained dogs more than 15 years and I am so happy that I tried prong collar. All those who tells that they use ONLY positive methods can't get the dogs under control? Why I have sooo many customers who had went through Petsmart "positive" training and then turns to me to get help getting dog under control? Because only positive methods don't help!!! I always try first everything else, but when I see that weeks going and no result then why waste my customer money to keep going, I use prong collar (always asking are they comfortable with it) and we get results during 5 minutes. This is NOT HURTING your dog if you know how to use it correctly. Better way is educate your clients to use it properly or they will buy it by themselves and use it wrong

True for inexperienced dog owners (especially using the cheap brand prong collars and using them wrong. Not true for educated dog owners and trainers. I like this product and wish it was available when I bought training collars for my 3 dogs.

That doesn't mean they aren't being used. they're just not telling you!

Tagaboi : Congratulations on your laws that prevent people from using a useful tool that has been helpful for tens of thousands of dogs. I hope you are happy.

you are right. it is a lot easier to just kill an uncontrollable dog instead of fixing it with these illegal tools

Ah yes - slight pinching. Definitely animal cruelty. Why don't you try walk my great dane with a regular collar? You see once the dog learns not to pull the (oh so terribly harsh) slight pinching doesn't even happen.

Lol! Stupid!

Liverbird 55...Wrong! This is going to be the new thing because prong collars are now banned in my city...but people are not going to stop using them because they are a fantastic tool, safer and less harmful than halters, haltis and flat collars. The put even pressure around their neck so they don't do damage when they pull. You just don't see the damage the other collars cause when dog starts to pull. Getting back to why these covers are a great idea for my city...they will prevent people from getting fined for using prong collar. In cities where they are allowed, ignorant people approach responsible dog owners using prong collars, and yell at them as they did to my friend. btw e-collars are great tool too. These training tools help to keep dogs out of shelters that are too hard to walk, even after the positive training, which failed.

So instead of abiding by the law you're going to circumvent it due to your own hubris? Great.