2 years later im looking at picking up a used one in the 500$ range. Thank you Paul for making this content, it's valuable to me to have your review as a reference. Glad you went through with it. Be excellent to each other, and party on dude!
This GPU? Or... A PS5 and a Series X plus a bunch of games and peripherals? The depressing part is that that's true at the MSRP... At current prices you can probably also get a new TV...
Honestly, this video was sufficiently salty that I was entertained the entire time. I wish that didn't have to be the case, obviously, but it was worth watching, regardless.
loved the point you made towards the end... when prices normalize (and they will... eventually) people are going to remember which companies took advantage, and when choosing between a brand that hiked prices, and one that did not... the great majority will go for the latter. the market for high-end gpus, are exactly the people who care about and remember stuff like that.
Do you remember GPP? I doubt most consumers will remember anything tbh. If they did GPU prices wouldnt be as high as they are. PPL have short memories when they want something.
@@Game_Rebel Most ppl dont remember GPP "Geforce Partner Program" at all. If they did there would still be a huge uproar about it. As soon as someone sees something they want they tend to forget about the things they were so upset about only minutes before. I for one have stuck to my principals about Nvidias anti consumer actions and havent purchased one of their cards in 5+ years now. "I did buy a used GTX1070 back in 2017, but that was because I couldnt get a Vega card at the time"
I made another comment on the prices. They did not take advantage. Zotac raised the prices on the 3080 by 12% while they got hit with a 25% tariff. Considering the very small margins GPUs operate on, this is commendable.
Literally though I don’t know why people even complain about GPU vids they subbed to the Chanel for those reviews and other things… so makes no sense to complain about it! Thanks Paul great review!
Future Me (March 2022): Also thanks, Paul, for discovering the lost city of Atlantis and furthermore proving that unicorns are real by riding one through downtown LA. You completely deserve that the UN awarded you Santa Catalina as your own personal fiefdom.
That was the best gpu review I've ever seen. Plain english easy to see and understand without a 1000 tables and graphs that you can not follow and no glimpses of game play with overlays that you have to pause to see what the reviewer is actually talking about. Fantastic job. I just wish i could afford one lol😁👏👏😎🇬🇧
@@JY__L evga is the best of the bunch in my opinion. gigabyte would be the worst simply because they don't honor their warranty and blame you for buying broken stuff.
@@michaelhughes9278 I have been in the EVGA RTX3080 waiting list for a long time, even the 3070Ti and 3080Ti, I joined the list less than about 1 hour after they open the queue for elite members, but nothing happened. For the Gigabyte card, I got it for a price close to the MSRP so I decide to take it. And for the warraty, the RMA system is pretty easy to use but since I never sent any RMA part so I have no idea how they will proceed.
Thank you for continuing to post videos even if some people can't get the cards. I love watching your videos and when the prices come down I will know which one to get. Love the vids.
Buddy I hope it brings you peace of mind to know that NOW this video is very helpful considering the price drop nowadays. Not to mention I was coincidentally on the fence with both of these cards so I really appreciate the catered experience 😂
Well, I played the entire video but got up to cook dinner after the first minute. Liked and commented just cause I like Paul and he needs to know that videos like this don't afffect that.
I actually already have the card but I was happily surprised to see it featured in a video! Yes, it is immensely overpriced but I needed it for work so money wasn't really a factor I could care too much about, and it was the only available option at the time. It's very nice though, never had power like this in a PC before o.O
Paul, These videos are still watchable, why, because ONE DAY we'll have the opportunity to own these and the review is warranted... Unless the 4000 series comes out, then you're wasting your time with this. LoL
Thanks for keeping your promise to Zotac and us. Honest review and your impressions and feelings are why I subscribe and keep coming to watch. Congratulations to the winner of the card. Now the rest of us can save that markup $$ and spend on some pint glasses (with coasters!)
Let's not also forget the time that Zotac advertised their cards as mining cards. Such great advertisement on their end, when mining was still ramping up.
I think the main reason they are so popular during this odd market is due to the fact that they seem to drop more cards regularly than anyone else.. And you can buy them directly from zotac.. But every single one of the cards is insanely overpriced.
So not only did Zotac completely ignore their EU customers by not allowing them to purchase a gpu directly off them, which they did before, but now they are totally dropping the ball by mistreating the customers they chose to focus on by blatantly raising the prices to stupid levels?? This should be remembered when things go back to normal.
I had stopped watching Paul's videos for a few months. But now im back because, I think Paul makes videos for budget gamers like me. When times get tough it become clear.
Thanks for the review... sure, like many people I've got GPU fatigue, but I am no fair-weathered fan. I always appreciate the information that you, Steve and Steve impart, and file away those recommendations for an informed buying choice when the time comes for my upgrade. This is time well spent -don't let anyone tell you any different.
The biggest thing I took out of this review was the Nvidia still has not fix the memory cooling problem with the reference cooler. Even though it can be corrected with a couple of strategically-placed strips of thermal tape. I did the little mod on my 3080 and it drop temperatures about 25 degrees Celsius. I would have thought Nvidia would have learned by now
My EVGA 3080Ti was delivered this morning. Been looking for one for a very long time to upgrade from the EVGA 1080Ti. Paid less than $2k. I did win the Shuffle once, but it was an Asus Strix 3080Ti bundled with a power supply and was too expensive so I let go it. Then found an Asus TUF 3080Ti at B&H for less than $2k and bought it. The day before the return period expired for the TUF, I found an EVGA 3080ti XC3 Ultra for about $30 more than the TUF, so I bought it. The TUF is being returned (unopened) today. Now I just need the EVGA GPU AIO cooler. Fair winds and following seas
Still worth reviewing the cards you do get. People don't have a choice, when something is available they buy it, so reviews are still valuable so people can learn something about what they get to buy.
I watch shows about supercars too, unlikely to ever own one, but it's still fun to see them go through their paces. I don't have many geek friends, so I just enjoy hearing you speak my language and don't really care what you're talking about too much.
You're not alone. I've been entering the Newegg lottery daily for months; hoping to win "the chance to buy a price gouged RTX 30xx video card". Sigh. I just want one. :(
I feel lucky to have gotten an Asus ROG strix 3080 Ti for $1800 in October from Best Buy. I realize that's a lot of money but... I don't have to wait till when........? to get a GOOD Graphic card.. I have been waiting since March to build a new computer. I thought I wouldn't be able to build it for a whole year. I'm very happy with my build. This rig will last me for years to come.
The 3080, 3080ti and 3090 FE cards really, really do better when the stock thermal pads are replaced. They're horrible. Even aircooled I've seen an average of 17 degrees (celcius) cooler memory junction temps (although the core sometimes goes up a tiny bit) by just doing that. Fan speeds going down from 100 to 60% under load etc. It's bizarre. Thank God it's fairly easy to do. Mem temps going down from 105 under stress to 80 makes a huge, *huge* difference. Especially when that's with 60-65% fan speed against 100% when stock.
Now Paul try undervolting :) take off 30% power load for less than a few % performance loss, maybe even higher performance if card was previously power throttling.
But this is one time cost that should last you for years while your mortgage is a monthly expense. So you should definitely buy this as it's clearly the smarter use of your money. ;) /s (I'm glad it's not my money as that price is insane.)
Thanks Paul I got this card today with 64gb ddr4 3600 and a 2tb xlr8 nvme for $950 and I couldn't be happier. This card is compatible for my ek fluid gaming custom loop so this is awesome I checked back at this video for performance!
I really like this card. I got the regular 3080 which I think is almost almost same as this card. it's a fair price at $1350 for the non ti version. It's much better than getting a rog at 2k+ . I wish you could compare the these cards against more models of the 3080.
Crazy, I just today bought a new Alienware Aurorus R14 with a 3080ti, Ryzen 9 5900X, 32GB of ram and a 1TB SSD for just $1900! Crazy how much things can change in one year!
I'm still using the Zotac 3080ti and it score in 3dmark just as high as most the other 3080ti's. I've seen the video's on the copper shim installs. They seem to help if they don't short something out first. I'm not having troubles with my temps. GPU temp in DayZ is 62°C Hot spot never gets over 80. Fans are at 70%. The thermal tape video's seem to show not much of a dif in temps but the copper shims do.. 20 to 30° drop in temps. Not that I need it "yet"
I don't see the super series being a thing this generation. It just doesn't make sense. Wouldn't mind if they come out though, benchmarks would def be interesting.
I think people are going to be rightly pissed if NVIDIA comes out with a Super card after the Ti cards considering that they can't produce enough GPU's to satisfy current demand.
@@ycageLehT The 16GB 3080Super makes a LOT of sense if we assume it's GDDR6, not GDDR6x. The 30-series is a flawed design. I'd say a Super refresh is virtually inevitable.
The Power Limit can not be increased to 110%. Yes, you can raise it in Afterburner and Firestorm but it has no effect, it's stuck at around 340W. Even though it advertises 350 and the additional 10% This was the first thing I noticed the minute I started testing the card. There are loads of people complaining about this too. Did you have the same experience?
I think I'm personally responsible for about 10,000 of these views because I had a headache, anxiety attacks and couldn't concentrate. Great video Paul. I like videos...
Strix 3080 is worth every penny. Was lucky to get the white one and after using 3080 Vision and 3080 Ti Amp Holo, it shows how good Asus are this time.
Isn't Zotac a low-end card anyway? They'll never sell me one. NEVER. Thanks for an honest look at this thing Paul. Business practices matter, and watching a budget brand try to screw everyone like this speaks a lot for the cesspool these slime crawled out of.
Still can't believe how hot Nvidia lets the VRAM run on the founders edition. On the 3080 and 3090 FE it is vastly improved just by adding/replacing thermal pads. The release of the 3080 Ti was the perfect opportunity for Nvidia to correct this on the new model with maybe, just maybe, $1 worth of materials (wholesale) per unit. For the price the 3080 Ti goes for, it should have the larger 3090 cooler as well. At least it's the cheapest MSRP I guess.
These reviews aren't entirely in vain; we get to see the nature and resolve of these companies, and when the Gpu shortage ends, a lot of people will be shifting their loyalties within them thanks to the reviewers and youtubers making these companies' greedy ways known with the reviews and pricing and all that. Thank you Paul, for helping us realize this (Hey thanks for the heart, guy)
@@FuckAssName Nvidia earned that margin through having a superior product. I have been using nvidia cards for over a decade now, due to them simply being the better choice. I will have zero issues about switching to amd or intel cards when they offer the best products on the market. Nvidia doesn't have any loyalty to me, so I won't have any for them. they offer a product, I pay for it. A simple business transaction.
@@careyosoup274 Pretty much this. I currently have 2 RTX 3070s and two 6800XT's from 3 unique AIB vendors in my house (my wife and I each have our own gaming setup then we have 2 computers ready for friends to use). Previously the last AMD/ATI gpu's I had were an ATI 9800 Pro and a Mobile Radeon 5470. nVidia has just always been better until now. Even when AMD's hardware was somewhat up to snuff and a better value proposition, the old Catalyst drivers were just piss poor.
Paul, it's an excellent review as expected, but it wasn't clear whether you gave Zotac chance to respond to your accusation that they're price gouging. Obviously, there's no chance they'd admit to it if that's what they are indeed doing, but it would be clear if that were the case from their response. However, Zotac cards are assembled in China IIRC; we know that production costs have escalated there due to the pandemic, as well as the USD weakening against the Yuan because fed money printer go brrrrrr, plus massive increases in shipping costs (3x to 4x). Everything coming from China is getting more expensive, so raising MSRP might be the only way Zotac can stay in business. Plus, y'know, inflation. Or maybe, yeah - they might just be taking advantage of graphics card market conditions... 🤷♂️
Thanks for the upload !!! WOW that is a crazy price. I wonder who will actually buy the Zotac.... +500 price hike for what really... not worth it at all.
What 850w PSU would you suggest for this build CPU - AMD Ryzen 5900x Motherboard - Gigabyte B550 VISION D-P RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB (2x16GB) CPU COOLER -NZXT Kraken Z53 GPU- Nvidia 3070 TI or NVIDIA 3080 CASE - NZXT H710 Mid-Tower
I won this Zotac 3080ti Holo in the Newegg shuffle last week... MSRP was $1799...Least the scalpers didn't make any free money off it. I was tire of waiting..The high price is probably why I won it. It says it overclocks to 1710mhz but it pegs at 1965 to 2010 in games. The hottest it's gotten is 71° . It beats my old 2014 AMD 295x2 by a lot..So i've waited a long time for a new card. With my bad hearing I have to turn the fans up to 80% before I could hear them...So far I like the card...The Holo lights ain't bad either..
I come from the future, watching this to get info on the quality of the cooler and controls since I just grabbed a ZOTAC 3090TI AMP Extreme Holo for $1000
over a year later and I'm watching this video to decide on purchasing this or not. Now that prices have stabilized and 4000 series has come out this card is listed for $880 on amazon. Crazy to think that just a year ago someone purchased this for more than double what I am now. Love the salt Paul, great video as always and I'm glad you made this even for the (at the time of watching) 118,795 people watching.
Couldn't agree more on your final point Paul! People will remember which retailers / vendors gouged more money from their customers in the shortages of the past 9 months or so. I hope that will result in folks choosing to shop with companies who treated their consumers fairly! A retailer called Scan.co.uk in the UK has continued selling products at MSRP the whole time - I was able to get my 3080 FE through them for £650 back in December. They'll be one of the first companies I'll visit in future for more upgrades or components as a result of that!
Crazy thing is the $1200 MSRP sounds amazing after all the gouging we've endured. Reminds me of the gas crisis several years back when it went from dollar territory to the $4 mark and eventually back down to the mid $2's which felt like a win at the time, but prices never hit the former lows and i think we may have the same thing happening here.
Manufacturers are missing out because they are using back plates but there are no thermal pads on the back of the memory modules so the heat just gets trapped under the back plate. If you put your own thermal pads on the back of the memory modules and turn the back plate into a heat sink you'll shave a good 10 to 20 degrees Celsius off your temps
For me, I will remember the Newegg shuffling crap products with escalated prices for products that are really wanted. I will remember that for a long time.
I have a Zotac 2080 Ti and toyed with the idea of buying the Zotac 3080 Ti through the Newegg shuffle. The outlandish price had pretty much convinced me not to put my name in for a chance to purchase it, but the oddly lower boost clock pushed me the last little bit. I don't get it.
I picked up a ASUS RTX 3080 Ti Strix OC for $1300... how? I purchased a pre-built PC from a system integrator then sold the rest of the PC off. And I think you are right Paul, people will remember which retailers had absurdly high prices and will simply avoid using them now and in the future (I certainly have a couple of places that I refuse to order from).
If that card was 750.00 dollars I might consider buying it, at 1200.00 dollars it's a no sale, and at the price point it is currently makes no sense to me.
i got one of these at the 1.7k price. 4 in stock at microcenter when i checked, 2 left by the time i got there. i know its expensive, but i am upgrading from a temporary Rx570 in a otherwise top end system. it was worth it.
I live my 3080 ti. It has memory only on the front so it's easy to cool. Has half the memory of a 3090 so that means more power can be pushed into the core. I've got a founders 3080 ti with an ekwb waterblock on it with +190 on the core and +1500 on my memory completely game stable. 2100 - 2175 mhz core clock in game @ 380 watts and 48 - 53 degrees Celsius.
Thanks for doing this review Paul. I got this card from the Newegg shuffle. Overall I'm happy with the card itself. My only complaint is obviously the price.
Paul, thank you for covering this despite the market. You must remember there are cars, motorcycles, bicycles, phones, laptops, homes, clothes, watches, cameras, and audio/home theater equipment that people can't afford, but that can't be a reason not to cover it, because computer technology is what you do and the other things that I mentioned are what other reviewers review as well. I love your disclaimer and as another guy said in the comments, people will hopefully remember which companies did the scalping and make them pay for it. I believe most AIB partners cards if this market wasn't crazy would still be between 150-300 over regular founders edition pricing in a normal market because Nvidia founders edition is a stripped-down card and most AIBs would add either more DP, HDMI ports, RGB, more fans and overclocking potential, but you true point is well made because even 1199 is too high considering where the 3080 founders edition is. Keep being true to who you are Paul, we all know you had nothing to do with this foolishness and you don't agree with it no more than anyone else.
I'm not an industry expert, nor am I trying to make apologies for manufacturers, but I wonder if the increase in MSRP from the 3rd parties is because they don't have a lot of actual cards to sell. For instance, if Zotac had 500 3080 TI's in a normal year (just a random number) that it sold close to the normal markup--say $1300--that would be $650000. But in this market, with chip shortages and therefore not as much inventory, maybe they only have 50 to sell (again, just a random number). If they sold at the usual markup--$1300--you get the point. I don't need to do the math. Anyway, I'm not sure if that's what's actually going on, just a thought
Almost just paid 2K for this card as I had looked up MSRP and it said 1,799. What I didn't realize before hand was that MSRP had actually went up to that. Zotacs tactics with price gouging just lost them a sell. Glad I watched this video. Deleted the card from cart and will continue to search for a better deal. 👍 Thank you!
I feel as though i might be in the minority, but i don’t care about fan speed volume. I use MSI Afterburner and turn the fan speed to 100% to overclock it as high as i can.
I was lucky and got a 3080 ti last month (1400€ around 1700$)... it felt expensive, but thosedays it was (and today still is) the most cheepest price :) I'm VERY happy with, specially under VR!
thanks paul, i was considering this zotac gpu the other day cuz the stocks are improving and price is still crumbling down. it is now around 1800usd in my country
HEY PAUL! I really do want content about PC tech such as this, Reviews, personal opinions, etc etc, I want to know the knowledge before hand so I can make my decision when prices come down or whether to just skip this gen and wait for nxt. KEEP DOING THIS ALRIGHT! SCREW THE OVERUSED "Out of Stock" COMMENTS! JUST SCREW THEM!
thanks for the review Paul, you mentioned that it was not useful to review the card at that time. but I finally bought the card now. having the review at the time was probably not that usefull but having it avialable when the prices came down was great! I never bought a zotac graphics card, only asus and Ichill. hence when I saw it a 860 euro 3080 ti card in my price watch I wasn't sure if it would be a good buy or if it was the most crappy card avialable that was on sale. thank you for reviewing a zotac card!
as Gamers Nexus points out, that power slider is in respect with the base powerlimit of the card, which is what the maker of the card decides it should be and is not the same between brands. Back to you Steve.
