Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood on 2001 |  

My only beef is that astronauts are military men. They have military ranks, "Captain", "Commander", etc. Instead, in the film, they are alluded to as scientists, "Dr. Bowman". In NASA, all astronauts are/were air force pilots.

​@@catherinelw9365Remember some astronauts were also Navy and Marine Corps (John Glen) pilots.

@@catherinelw9365you have to remember the movie is set in the future though, 40 years after the Apollo project started. It's not a giant leap to think that, after its infant stage, space exploration would be carried out mostly by experts with civilian backgrounds.

Neil Armstrong was a civilian,the first astronaut to be.

greatest of all time? not sure, but certainly on that short list of the most influencial films ever made. I remember the reviews in 1968 when the critic wrote " you'll be seeing "the first film of the 1980's", and boy was he right

@@spactick Well, I think there's no other Sci Fi film that has equaled it thus far in terms of its ideas, cine, mystery. Some might say Blade Runner but that movie -- which I love to death -- had to get some reworkings into its "final cut" form by director Scott.

The 1951 "Day the Earth Stood Still" was a serious attempt to use the SiFi narrative as a way to convey anti-war sentiment as well as the concern that technology was getting a little out of hand with the advent of atomic bombs. Also "Metropolis" was another incredibly accurate vision of what society might become. But yes I agree Kubrick's film certainly set a standard that really hasn't been surpassed. Ridley Scott (in my opinion) is far and away the finest director working in Sifi today. Blade Runner eg; completely changed what science fiction films looked like. It's a masterpiece. A beautiful film.

Simply put, Genesis is life from lifelessness.

where no man has gone before

Yes, that's it.

I still think of those silver eyes every time I see him...one of these days I'll get a look at his work in Roddenberry's "The Lieutenant."

"Morals are for men, not gods."

Gary would have made a great Captain in Star Trek

He also has a marvelous voice. Go back and take another listen with your eyes closed. He most certainly had voice training in his younger days

Messrs. Dullea and Lockwood turned in fine performances and contributed to the film's success.

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your absolutely right, I noticed that myself. it's amazing how well the make-up people predicted what he'd look like decades in the future

On the other hand, he looked a bit like Arthur C Clarke.

Who else would he look like?

But Frank Poole looks much better in this than he did at that point of then movie.

Lockwood was perfectly right. You would need incredibly stable people to work for 18 or more months in almost total isolation. And being scientists, (both were PhDs), they were virtually almost human computers themselves. The fact that Kubrick filmed them that way, and not as some kind of totally unrealistic but "exciting" anti-authority goofs, like the "new" Capt. James Kirk, is just one more reason that Kubrick was an uncompromising genius.

@@PointyTailofSatan and not just Captain Kirk. Pretty much every sci-fi movie has hyper-emotional characters, sometimes justified but usually not. Now Kubrick wanted the over-the-top performances in some of his movies (i.e. George C Scott/JackNicholson), but he used those performances in service of the story. As Pointy stated, Kubrick was a genius drawn to other brilliant minds (Arthur C Clark anyone?)

Not pretentious, good observation.

Yes, they took plenty of advantage of that in the movie, and the star child, even though it is of course not portrayed by the actor, is clearly recognizable because of the eyes. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he was cast in large degree because of them. The lack of much dialogue also made an actor with very expressive eyes even more important.

They're "full of stars."

That much related, i am sure that's why he was chosen by the grandmaster Kubrick. He never looks directly into the camera, but you always get that feeling like he is gazing right through you and into your soul...

I always had a feeling why Kubrick cast him in that roll. It's what I noticed about him the first time I saw the movie his eyes. I always thought they were beautiful.

Forgive me for asking, but do you know if Gary Lockwood has some colored blood in him? He looks a bit ethnic.. Perhaps some native American in him.

I don't think so. He was born and raised in California, so it's possible, but unlikely.

That was my reaction too. I can't see the old Lockwood at all in that face. Even his voice is different - he seems to have picked up a bit of a Southern accent.

Opposite for me. I see Gary Lockwood quite clearly. But Keir Dullea not at all.

I was thinking the same thing !

well done

Come to think of it, why didn't Kubrick let him grow a handsome old man beard?

Keir Dullea is still unconvincing as someone pushing 80 years old.

surenoonehasthisname is me ....Yep, I have the dvd set of Starlost, and yes, it was a very low budget series but it was still fun to watch. it is like the older Dr. Who series; you have to use your imagination and enjoy the often silliness of the sets and stories, but for me, that is why I like the older Dr. Who and particularly Tom Baker...he was obviously having fun with the character and stories and I got to go along and have fun with him.

Terrible chorma key effects.

No kidding. Lockwood was so wild it's amazing he's still alive. They're both great actors, saw both of them in 12 O'Clock High.

I'm glad their still around too amazing.

Very considerate of you ...

Well, he was born in Winnipeg...

Mr. Rain was brilliant in the Master Builder in Toronto.

Douglas Rain and me are both Winnipeg Manitoba natives.

He also has a marvelous voice. Go back and take another listen with your eyes closed. He most certainly had voice training in his younger days

Michael Proctor that’s the first thing that came to my mind. He looks great!

You have it backwards

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@@promedio2933 si si

Exactly what I was thinking !

Same here. It was mind bending.

Me as well. I found the Moon landing sequence just as magical.

You're absolutely right - and there are not many portrayals which are realistic in this respect - not even Apollo 13 was - I think it was Jim Lovell who said that they would never have yelled at each other they way the actors do on the film. The only other example from recent times I could imagine was Sam Rockwell playing Sam Bell in Moon. (And that was inspired by 2001.)

Gary doesn't seem to mind. Not a hint of jealousy in his expression.

@@abc64pan That's why he is an actor.

What an interesting idea.

Yes I have it was a pretty good show.

@@gwenfluker3436 GREAT show. Fantastic work from Lockwood.

Though when he was young he looked rather like Ewan McGregor.

Looked like baby food.

I liked how he mixed some of the food up too. A bit of the yellow on the Brown. Nom, Nom.

@miket3509 I'm really curious about that gritty looking green stuff Keir is eating. And that stuff Gary is eating that kinda looks a bit like lasagna.

Where no man has gone before: 1966. 2001: A space Odyssey:1968

@@starsiegeplayer Thanks, the other way around then. I should have remembered that, but I don't think when I saw 2001 that it even connected he had been on Star Trek.

He also has a marvelous voice. Go back and take another listen with your eyes closed. He most certainly had voice training in his younger days

I thought it might be to frame the shot and get as close as possible- something to do with taking advantage of the offset in those theater seats.

Or maybe it's just more comfortable for them to have no one sit next to them so they can spread out - they are both tall men.

Hmm, I wonder if you'd say that if you saw the TV show The Starlost.

Dullea was the lead actor, had most of the dialogue, and had a more developed storyline. I thought they acted their roles superbly. HAL had a bigger role dialogue wise than Gary and it was a warning of what can happen if man becomes too dependent upon machines or government. They become tyrannical rulers instead of servants.

@@laniejuanitawhitehurst1624 I think that wasn't the point - the problem with Hal arose because they had been giving him conflicting instructions: To handle all information truthfully on the one side, and to lie about the true purpose of the mission to Bowman and Poole. (I think this is also one of the reason why HAL killed the two scientists in hibernation because they very likely knew the truth about the mission and had been brought on board in hibernation for that reason - and could thus have "exposed HAL as a liar"). The whole movie is about the awakening of sentience and consciousness, and this theme includes HAL. And one of the statements of the movie is that sentience also includes awareness of one's own mortality, and that acting on that awareness (including taking measures to save our lives and kill to save ourselves if necessary) is what drives evolution forward (the bone in the hands of the primate becomes the flying weapon in space). I think Bowman realizes that when he switches off HAL toward the end of the movie, he is in fact killing another sentient being, and that he never before has seen HAL in that light. It's the only scene in the movie where we ever see Dullea display any semblance of emotion in the whole movie, and he looks positively horrified.

that bus did it too me

Now, please repost this in an Earth language, such as English, since we Earth folks don't understand your planet's language.

nah, he made the right choice

Bullshit. Fuck right off.

Rolling On The Floor Laughing

A lot of North's 2001 music was used in the Shoes of the Fisherman. It's ok, but when you consider the breathtaking use of the Blue Danube in the space station and moon shuttle scene, that's where you see the genius of Kubrick.

If you don't see the docking approach as a type of dance, you really don't understand this scene.