Just as he has difficulty in saying what a woman is, so too does Keir Starmer struggle to explain what he understands working-class people to be. • Define ‘working class’... www.telegraph.....
@Rampart.X Or, they have a misguided idea that Labour is the same now as it was long ago. For working people. I don't think the working class really wants socialism or communism.
"And though the forest was shrinking the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that since his handle was made of wood he was one of them."
Keir Starmer is very rich lawyer and a career politician. All these career politicians are in it for what they can personally benefit from. The days of politicians trying to look after the community are well and truly long gone.
The highest percentage of people who work in Britain as opposed to being dependant are migrants according to HMG statistics. !These facts were revealed also in the press !
Just the illegals? I'm pretty sure we are supporting everyone who never grows, moves, makes or creates anything. You certainly would find a billionaire with a sheet to wipe his arse with without the working class.
I like Rich Hall’s definition of class in the US, where the upper classes have their name on the outside of the building, the middle classes have their name on their office door, and the working classes have their name on their shirt.
I’ve watched the link provided, it’s hilarious, when he said his dad was a toolmaker and the audience laughed, he thought they were being disrespectful to his dad’s job, they weren’t, it was working class humour about him being a tool that his dad made, if he was working class, he would have got it.
They’re all proud socialists as long as they get to take the biggest share and keep it for themselves. How many of these proud self proclaimed socialists offer to take a pay cut down to the average salary? Well there’s your answer to what they really believe in and it begins with a big c.
@@theprincipalofficer_1 I don't know about that.In the sixty's when I was a nipper they seemed to represent those that worked.Think Scargill Labour Unions & all the people that went on strike.At least then they had someone to represent them!
@@nicholasmorrill4711 liebour put more miners out of work than any thing thatcher did. What did scargill do for miner after nothing he ran off sued to get money out of unions and left the miners behind.
@stephenmillner3906 - more or less guaranteed he would define supporters of the socialist NSDAP as far-right, that's the usual default position for virtue-signaling lefties
Politicians who have never done a day's real work in their lives, think that taking a jacket off and rolling up their sleeves on their £100 shirt makes them look like a worker. 🙄
@ant7936 Hello to you. I understand your comment, I somehow felt embarrassed for him. Simon, I personally write cheques all the time ( I'm not on my own!! ) Anyway, Peace to all.
@@GreggFellows Your Farage obsession on show again Mr Gregg? He was described as looking like Mr Toad a while back so I expect he'll get that or worse again.
@@PaIaeoCIive1684 i hope Reform wins, but i expect Nige just wants to be an MP so he can shout every now and then when he actually graces the commons with his presence, if it looks like Reform will win i expect a throw of massive proportions, last thing he wants is the PM job day in day out
@@GreggFellows You're pulling my leg with the first four words. Then again, it would make sense from a contrarian. Bit like Johnson winning that 2016 vote when he was only on an ego trip/currying favour with Eurosceptic Tories?
A lot of them are these days, if not them, their wives, think of Blair. Very few come from the real world of proper work. Criminal solicitors´ income is mainly legal aid.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 He can but he won't, he's been asked numerous times, I think he might have flip flopped though as Blair had no such problem.
Nixon really say that? No wonder they stitched him up with the Watergate scandal. Suppose he was lucky. They used more ruthless means to get rid of JFK.
If you are working class, brought up in a working class household, even if you get a posh job you'll still be working class in many ways, in your tastes and manners, and other working class people tend to notice. And you'll be able to spot a phoney, whether it's the professional BBC "working class northerner" types, or indeed Sir Keir.
Funny, Sunak does not have any working class friends, so neither of the leaders understand the working class, so is it any wonder they do not understand us? Becontree? I bet that is diverse these days. Luckily I have not been there for 45 years.
A minority of the electorate is all he needs: public sector lefties, students, middle-class metropolitans and immigrant votes will suffice. Blair's third election win was secured with under 22% of the electorate. 'Democracy', you see.
I think there are labour voters moving to reform, maybe not huge in numbers. Also although Labour seem to be on course for a large number of seats, I'm not sure it will be from a lot of votes, more like a lot of apathy from disillusioned Conservative voters. But who knows!
I must be one of those Simon who you you look at as a bit dodgy as though there were no bycicles in our hallway god forbid who did as six kids in our house coat's over the bottom of the banister was quite normal for us kids I thought it was only us who did this though it was quite a site and I laugh now as it's been nearly fifty years since those days of innocence
Another 5 years of politicians doing what politicians do - getting fat on the public purse while acting out their ideological nirvana in their classroom.
surely upper class read broadsheets, middle class read the mail and express and lower class read the sun or the mirror those below this system read the Sport or don't read at all; whilst those above this system actually write or influence what is in all the papers, whatever they read?
🙃yes working class that's a tough one I suppose I can consider myself as working class 🤠 I wonder if we have class for pen pushers then maybe politicians could be working class I suppose I can leave it up to you people whose is working class that's right it's one of life's little mysteries.
If you need your wage or salary to pay your rent or mortgage, you are working class. If you have sufficient wealth that you don't need to work, you're not. It really is that simple. The 'middle class' is a myth created to obscure the stark realities of class divided society. It is an economic issue, not social.
Well, as a medievalist, to my mind there are two sorts of people in the world: nice people (the ones with all the money) and workers (who haven't got a pot to piss in). In Starmer's Stalinist style Britain - what he's got planned for us - that's how it will be. 1% of the population (oligarchs and jews) will be rich and the other 99% (the workers) will, whether working, or more likely unemployed, be slaves to the socialist Westminster oligarchs.
Earlier this year I was preparing to fix a problem with one of the taps in the bathroom and with dismay realised I lacked an adjustable spanner. Then there was a knock at the door, it was keir starmer's dad with an adjustable spanner, 'there you go' he said, Several months later intending to put up a bird feeder on a tree in the driveway I couldn't find a hammer at all, then as if by magic keir starmer's dad appeared, not with just one hammer but an entire set of them.
Starmer seems to be quite confused. He needs psychiatric treatment ASAP God help Britain 🇬🇧 when an incompetent selfish oppinuated man like him becomes PM. He's even worse than that clown 🤡 Sunak Hard to believe that this could be possible Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪
So he accuses workers of not being workers if they've got the ability to save .Yet those people who he clearly degrades .Will still vote for him on mass
His parents were far better off with two wages coming in back in the 60-70’s, he tries to make out they were hard up. My father was a factory worker he kept a wife and reared 6 children and a dog on one wage, he would work extra hours so we had a good Christmas and we also had holidays. We were well fed and clothed had a nice council house, most of all my parents never went out to play bingo or frequent the local but chose to save their money. We all stayed for school diners which were not free.
Dont you get it yet, this is all WEF, Sunak and Starmer are both owned by them, to get full control,of the UK they need Labour in power, Sunak made sure that he is universally disliked leaving no other option than Starmer, Labour policy being the manifesto of the WEF it game over for the UK. Even the conservative members sold out Britain for some gold coins.
When I moved to London as a young working class man, I was surprised how messily my middle class fellow students lived. This wasn't the normal slovenliness of youth, but a carefully cultivated affectation. It was of course bohemianism, and many of them went on as adults to style their homes with the same elegant neglect their parents had. It requires a particular kind of confidence to leave things uncleaned and unrestored, and the knowledge that the only people who notice will approve.
The working class was distinct fom the middle class in that they didn't own assets that generated income. Tony Blair was incorrect. We're not all middle class now. We're mostly working class. Even earning a salary of £60k can mean you are working class now. The minimum wage people see this differently though.
Yep. Brought up in a two room tenement flat with my parents and two siblings. Outside toilet. No bath to keep coal in. No hot water supply, and no banister to chuck your coat over. The joys of working class life in Scotland in the 1960s. And I'm still living in a tenement flat.
@@danielcalderwood6674 I grew up in a semi in a reasonable suburb (with a lot of working class East London over-spill, such as my family) in Essex. It wasn't top of the range, but there were and still a lot of people far worse off. I can still remember visiting my grandparents' home in Leyton - a terraced house with an outside toilet, no shower, and so on. I felt lucky when I saw their home. Starmer wouldn't recognise such places.
Starmer is clearly unfamiliar with the concept of upward social mobility. My dad was a toolmaker, ergo I am working class. Similarly Angela Rayner's claim to being working class is based on once having had a part time job as a council care assistant. If she'd worked full time she would have lost her single parent benefits. She became a shop steward despite only having worked part time for a short period, wangled a job as a full time union official, despite having left school illiterate, married another full time union official, and has never looked back.
Starmer constantly bangs on about his father working as a tool maker in a factory (worthwhile working class credentials) however he omits to mention his father actually owned the factory. Therefore his father was a factory owner (not worthwhile working class credentials).
I think it was John Prescott, who asked a young woman on the dole, whether she was working class. The young woman replied no, because she didn’t work! Can’t argue with that 😂
I just found myself as stuck as Starmer to find a few short polite words to describe the non-working class that didn't also sound like a description of the upper class.
@@markfindlay8636 No, it was Prescott. She said she thought she was middle class, to which he replied, "now, I would have said you were 'working class'". Her reply: "but I don't work."
Lets be honest. A real working Class person in this country, will never be allowed to get in any position of real power? A local council seat is all they are allowed to get.
Very droll....friends arriving soon, think i will remove my jacket from the newel post and hoover the carpet to remove the impresion left by the bike. 😂
