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Ken Loach absolutely DESTROYS Keir Starmer is a dreadful strapline, really makes what Ken Loach says look juvenile until you listen to it. A better caption would be Ken Loach explains Keir Starmer Brainless jargon makes DDN look idiotic. The video is good, change the caption.
But he is arguing against his own points saying that Jeremy should have been ruthless because the other side was. He is admitting that he was naive and yet he is criticizing the so-called ruthlessness of Kier Starmer. I wish he would see the contradiction in his own argument. Besides Jeremy lost badly. He was/is a good person but he had too much baggage (association with IRA and Hamas) and was not a leader. Politics is a dirty business whether you like it or not. It is more about marketing than about truth and Jeremy was lousy at that. That is the truth on the ground. Now you can either accept that or sit on the sideline and keep dreaming of an impossible utopia.
@Bentcop . biz His contradicted his own argument. He is a dreamer and only in our dreams, we can contradict our own arguments without consequence. Reality is very different.
@@raygooch Although I agree with your sentiment regarding childish clickbait titles, you imply that Ken is childish (unless it is a typo). Everything he says is valid and pertinent.
@@ExiledGypsy There is a contrdiction in his narrative. The big issue for the left is should it be Idealist, like the Corbynists, or Realist, like the Mandelson crew. I feel that Ken is right to bring the left into the real political world, which is of course full of accepted contradictions, so as to not be exiled to the wilderness. All political ideologies are loaded with contradiction. The left just seem unable to communicate their particular contradictions in a way that inspires confidence. Ps, I would prefer the Corbyn way to the Mandelson way.
@Prodrive1 The Guardian ? "Radical" left ? Are you joking ? They crucified Corbyn, yet his party manifesto was at most bog standard social democratic like most west European democracies. He was hardly a raving Trot, notwithstanding what he might have been in his youth. The Guardian is an establishment rag. It's hardly an improvement on the Daily Mail. I'm not even sure that it is an improvement. At least the Daily Mail doesn't keep begging for money or censoring comments like the Graun. They are both comics.
2 years one, even even more. The guy just criticised Tory spending/taxing plans as "Corbynite". He uses Corbyn's name as an insult - the guy he claimed to support so he could climb to power, only to stab in the back (bad enough), and now even publicly insult. A total snake.
I stopped voting labour in 2010 I could see they way Blair and Brown had taken them and the mess they got the country into. The Labour party aint what it used to be
They’ve done it to so many times, I also remember what they did to Arthur Scargill, vicious. And in fact they are like that on most trade Union issues, it’s weird seeing the relative soft footing around the RMT, but still they don’t give them airtime to explain the disputes properly, and it’s not as we know only about money. Bit when you have the Leader of the Labour Party forbidding MPs from picket lines…well what to say.
The BBC avoid national current affairs almost entirely while the Tories are in totally in disrepute, ,, Very vulnerable on the floor and left to recover, ..The nation will fall for the mass medai propoganda and here we go again, another round with those pillaging a nation,
It's the working class who got rid of the left . They stabbed Corbyn in the back and voted in Boris. If you want to get elected in England you have to become right wing, if you don't you become UN-electable. The intellectual left fail to understand that the majority of working class people love tho struggle financially. . They feel sorry for the multi billionaires who nare having a hard time of it.
@@drmontague6475 It's not that you miraculously become "unelectable", it's that the establishment will do everything in their power to prevent it, and since they are devoid of basic decency, morals, and respect for law, no act is too low. I assure you, there is absolutely nobody in this country who enjoy being unable to feed their family and having to rely on food banks, even though they are in what the tories would call "gainful employment". How are the billionaires having a hard time of anything? They are paying corp tax at a rate of 1.87% whilst those already under a burden of debt have just been billed for the shortfall, come on...
The politics in the UK is such a mess, reform are not as safe as some think, but the rest of the members of Parliament are so anti the UK people, there's such a disconnect between them and the people who are the country. And let's not forget that the police are lost to us, now being used against all who want true justice and the truth, you cannot make it up.
There is no democracy in the UK. The leaders are selected and placed into power so the people can think they voted them in. They work for globalists interests, as the detriment to the people, Starmer has even said he thinks more of Davos than parliament.
@@mrkalm58 Maaaate! I work in the outback! We are brothers of sweating our arses off in places way too hot for any person in their right mind to live or work. lol. Respect from Australia... 👍
I don’t know this guy from Larry, and I’m not arguing one way or the other so calm down. Not being funny but how do you come to your conclusion and why should I believe it? This just looks like another political attack and frankly, political attacks always have a motive.. What’s the motive here and is it a reasonable outcome to follow?
@@ascgazz Ken Loach has been a Labour party activist since I was at primary school (55 years ago) and is famous for making films such as "Cathy Come Home", "I Daniel Blake" and "Sorry we Missed You" which are overtly political and highlight the problems of working class people and their oppression by the capitalist system. He is a friend and supporter of Jeremy Corbyn and left the party recently under threat of expulsion. If you don't know him, you really should.
One tends to forget that people like Ken Loach are still around, talking sense, still committed to sound political values and still fighting the good fight through their work.
@@scotchegg3419 He has made (and still makes) films that sensitively and accurately reflect lives as lived by people who are not usually depicted in the mainstream. 'Kes' is my favourite but: 'Up The Junction', 'Cathy Come Home', 'Raining Stones', 'Poor Cow', 'Riff Raff', 'I, Daniel Blake', 'Bread and Roses' are all worth checking out too. Just to mention a few. They are as far from 'porn', as you put it, as you could possibly get, as porn is simply voyeauristic and doesn't have compassion. They do deal with poverty of course, with empathy and accurately and that is the point.
Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey are the sound of what the Labour Party once was. Jeremy Corbyn didn’t lose because of his policies to help ordinary people. The establishment felt threatened and he had to go.The only way to sort this out is for a change in the electoral system . FPTP is a tired electoral dictatorship. We need a system where each vote truly counts. If for example 60% voted for left wing or anti establishment parties. Then they would have 60% of the seats. That won’t ever happen under the current system. And the conservatives only need about 36% to have a huge majority.
I left the Labour Party two years ago exactly because of this. It hurt me so much to tear up my membership but I just couldn't support Starmer. He tells us to unite as a party, but has no idea what a broad church is. I've since joined the Green Party and am a lot happier, but hope for significant transformation in the Labour Party.
Join the future of a new era, Vote for The Workers Party of Britain, or if there is no candidate for the workers party in your area, then vote for the best independent candidate. Get these two transparent corrupt main parties out of politics !!!
Stammer is there to make sure the interests of the monied and the interests of apartheid Israel are not jeopardised. He doesn't have to win a General Election to succeed in his mission.
Ken Loach's clarity of thought about Starmer and the Labour right is so intuitive and aging like a fine wine. Starmer and the Labour parties behaviour since the 7th October only validates Ken's views and concerns. It is scary that there is no meaningful opposition to the Conservative Party and that is extremely bad for the future of our democracy.
I left Labour, I’m not funding that shit show with my hard earned cash - to be channeled off to the right of the party, sod that I rather be politically homeless
Probably, the most honest and true 13 minute statement spoken in the past 2 years. Voted Labour for 40 years and ex member. Yesterday, voted for an Independent Candidate with Social Justice and Equality, being his priority.
I think everyone is beginning to see that Ken Loach’s comments of two years ago are true. Starmer is now doing to the country, as PM, what he did to the Labour Party.
You're correct but no party will offer a vote on it unless they know it won't succeed. The Establishment will never give up their power base for democracy.
Big up, for Mr Loach. It's good to see a man that makes these stars of the silver screen, these stars that like the sound of their own voice, these stars that have forgotten how to be human, these lefties that wouldn't know anything about our lives, but want to tell us how to think. Thank you Mr Loach.
@@xavierhucklenbruch1798 - by becoming the most right wing the Labour Party will have ever been? No thanks. I was a fool to think Starmer would be an okay leader. I’m appalled by how he has behaved.
Jeremy Corbin was a shining light and great hope, not only for the people of UK, but deprived peoples all around the globe. It was sad to see him targeted in a vicious campaign which forced him out. Perhaps he was too straight, honest, fair minded and unbiased for the British power circles and the public equally.
Problem with corbyn was he never going to be PM. He was Honest Thought mostly of the public and not the top 1% Worked with dignity Stood up for what was right and against what was wrong in society and the world Against racism Was anti war. And so on He had all characteristics which made him a bad politician and would never had become PM. Starmer has all the traits (none of the above) which makes him a good candidate to become PM. This political system is protected by the elite and we’re programmed by mainstream media. Our votes don’t count. If they did , corbyn would be PM today.
@@Fa-uk5fb What appalls me is the gullibility & stupidity of the common man, media campaign notwithstanding. How could they reject a man like J Corbyn & choose a clown, & that too with such a thumping majority? Time has shown the sheer stupidity of their choice and no wonder they are paying the price of that choice today.
Also a communist whose party have ruined the UK with open door immigration. He supported to many bad people & couldn't possibly have become primeminister. I will never vote Labour again. Reform UK 🇬🇧 is the party.
@@RedScotland I think people should vioce what is going on here and demand something be done about what happened to Jeremy Corbyn and election and other MPs fired resighned I for one have been called a Tory because I don't recognise the Labour party any more or it's policy's am I the only one apart from your self ?????? I can't support something I don't believe in or don't recognise or even trust
I joined the Labour Party in order to support the leadership of conviction politician Jeremy Corbyn. I resigned when ‘Sir’ Keir Starmer succeeded him. Ken Loach is a thoughtful and clear-sighted individual and also a Bath City supporter, so I may see him at Twerton Park tomorrow.
Always loved Ken, a man of honesty and integity and above all compassion for the poor. / Ken you have done so much for the poor in Society we thank you / you will live in our hearts forever.
Ive been a labour voter all my life... However, now ive become a none voter... No one in any party is worthy of my vote..... We need a total new political system..🙏✌️✊
@@kevinadamson5768 Not looked into Herritage but why Reform? Farrage has already made it clear he wants us to move to private health care system and will sell off the NHS the first chance he gets.
It’s there , but hidden dictatorship and manliutaion over the years has numbed people , 2 parties , take your pick , the people on voting day have the power of the country at their fingertips , but will as always follow like sheep FACT
Your none vote leaves the Tories and labour in power use the vote ,Vote for the independent working class party let's get Jeremy Corbyn or George Galloway
You’re a great man, Ken. I wish to goodness you could persuade Jeremy to start a new socialist party to counter Labour and the Tories. Britain needs an opposition that represents the working class.
I wish he would then Labour will be shot of all the posh public school/sheltered middle class left that have infested and destroyed the party and can start concentrating on issues that concern the working class (which ISNT the clapped out 19th century drivel from your posh school's politics classes.)
"The interests of the ruling class have to predominate". Ken Loach, no wonder you are so famous, you can tell the truth in one sentence. Your utter goodness seeps out of your pores. The people MUST recognise this. I don't want people to leave Labour, I want the people to demand their party back from the same corporate interests that already run the Tories. I want democracy to be wrestled from the vicious teeth of the corporate oligarchy.
@@fmj9346 No point in a new party without proportional representation, as it won't get anywhere. You can fight for PR outside of the Labour Party by helping organisations like Make Votes Matter or push for it from within.
I agree with all of you. I want Labour to be a left-wing party that fights class injustices and strives for equality. But I think that it's too late. I have hope, but it's fading fast. I've left Labour. My membership seemed to endorse the current position of the party and I couldn't do that. I don't know who I'll vote for next. I live in a strong Tory seat, atm. No other party has a chance of getting in, so it never feels as if my vote counts. I desperately want PR. The Greens will probably get my vote. I wish that it could help them to have a louder voice in parliament. And I wish that the current Labour leadership would adopt more green policies. But they're just wishes :(
@@miaschu8175 You could help support and campaign with Make Votes Matter for PR. Also, if you join an affiliated trade union you'll still be able to vote in future Labour Party leadership elections.
a sweet, good, and intelligent man. Everything the establishment hate. It's to our nation's detriment that we don't elevate people like this to the highest office.
Ken Loach, a fantastic man that has always stood up for the working class community in Britain. I'm Irish, but my heart breaks for the socialists of the Labour Party, betrayed by the right in the party. Seeing Starmer's Purge of socialists in the party hits a nerve. The biggest mistake Corbyn ever made was to not show the same contempt that the traitors in his party showed him.
We don't have free speech in the party anymore. Anytime somebody on the left becomes a CLP chair, a Momentum branch chair, stands for election to the NEC or NPF or becomes a council candidate they get suspended. Then they will go for the members who don't do anything in the party other than attend branch and constituency meetings and fundraisers, knock on doors and deliver leaflets.
@@lemsip207 Yep, Starmer has went full Tory plant on this one. Purge the party of any left leaning MP's, replace them with centre right ones, then tell Labour members they have no right to vote and then the new right leaning MP's can continue the status quo.
@@lemsip207 You don't have free speech because when you do you embarrass the labour party by constantly yammering on about pro nouns and other nonsense that no cunt in the real world cares about. Stop placating every fringe element of our society going and you'd actually be in with a chance.
British politics is in a terrible state right now; forced by our out-of-date FPTP system to have to choose between the cruel, corrupt, and incompetent Tories, and Kier Starmer's Labour. To think just a few years ago Labour felt like a decent alternative. Now look at them
@@hayleyannamathieson7261 Don't be sad. As was said, be complimented. The attacks have only intensified because the danger to the status quo was genuinely threatened. Organise.
It may hurt some but you know where you stand with tories, and as it is right now I'd find it hard to vote Labour. We have a Tory MP for the first time, and if the candidate is full on Starmer they won't get my vote at all.
It's the working class who got rid of the left . They stabbed Corbyn in the back and voted in Boris. If you want to get elected in England you have to become right wing, if you don't you become UN-electable. The intellectual left fail to understand that the majority of working class people love tho struggle financially. . They feel sorry for the multi billionaires who nare having a hard time of it.
The only mistake Jeremy made was being too nice, too compassionate and he didn’t play dirty. Too sincere and principled. Which is why many liked him. Sadly, the centrists took advantage of this and didn’t play by the same rules. Absolutely disgusting.. I can never vote for the Labour Party after this.
Oh and also, he should’ve got rid of people like Margaret Hodge and the rest of those toxic players (Mandy) who weaponised anti Semitism as a tool to get rid of them.
I agree but that would have been reactionary and would have gone against him. It would also have run counter to his integrity. I have the utmost respect for Corbyn, but he isn't politic. He is a good person - he often reacts out of emotion, rather than having a cool head. Yet, he thinks about things and sees how we need to listen and compromise with others. He's definitely complicated. But above all, he's a decent man and refuses to play the game. He was always going to be open to mendacious attacks. I wish that he'd had a better strategist on his side, to help him counter those who twisted his meanings and tarnished his reputation. He wasn't the man for that fight.
@@miaschu8175 To me has always a poor mans Tony Benn. Whether right or wrong, both shared very similar principled values and stood for what they believed in (which often mean't disobeying the party whip). Benn and his family also succumbed to constant vile attacks by the right wing media in the 1970's, with headlines like "The most dangerous man in Britain" - all because he campaigned against our common market membership which ironically the Tories and right wing media all supported back in the day.
It's the working class who got rid of the left . They stabbed Corbyn in the back and voted in Boris. If you want to get elected in England you have to become right wing, if you don't you become UN-electable. The intellectual left fail to understand that the majority of working class people love tho struggle financially. . They feel sorry for the multi billionaires who nare having a hard time of it.
Crossing Ken Loach was Starmer’s biggest mistake. One of our greatest film makers and a direct voice that resonates through the decades for millions of us. Knuckle dragging numbskull centrists will laugh, but their Change UK New Labour 2.00 is going nowhere.
The centre left want the left to win power. There is no point in having far left leaders who get slaughtered by the far right. We need moderate peace loving, human rights respecting centre left Labour leaders.
To defeat the Uniparty we must deliver a HU_NG PARLIAMENT!!! Vote for the Citizen Independents or The Workers Party of Britain or Reform to end the reign of the Uniparty Criminal Conspiracy!!!
Always loved Ken loach films, always champions the working class, speaking with clarity and speaking the truth. The media report what they want you to see.