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Keith Carlock Talks w/ Stanton Moore about Loosening Up | Academy Interview 

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For this installment of Stanton Moore Drum Academy Interviews, I sat down with Keith Carlock while he was in town for Gretsch Night. Keith is an accomplished drummer who's played for Toto, Wayne Krantz, Steely Dan, James Taylor, Donald Fagen, Walter Becker, John Mayer, Sting and Many More. In this interview, we talk about both of the similarities in our early years in school and how we transitioned to loosening up behind the drum kit! I hope you enjoy this one, it's always great to catch up with Keith.
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Комментарии : 64   
@drorale
@drorale 4 года назад
Keith Carlock is so damm good !!!! hands down !!!! style,feel,technique he got it all !!!! such an inspiration !!!!!
@jefffelderman2409
@jefffelderman2409 2 года назад
You don't have a longstanding gig with Steely Dan, along with the all the other great artists he has performed and recorded with, without being a total master of the kit as Keith is. He also comes across in this interview as a humble and cool person. Great to see this. I am a guitarist who has always derived a lot of my playing in a band from what the drummer is doing, so I have always had a strong interest in the role of the drums in a band and the need for a great drummer to succeed.
@stantonmooremusic
@stantonmooremusic 2 года назад
Thank you for watching. 👊🏼
@jonathanhume5266
@jonathanhume5266 4 года назад
Man, I wish I could hang out behind the couches and just listen to Stanton and Keith talk all day. Thanks for the amazing content!
@GediSpock
@GediSpock 4 года назад
Exactly what I thought. A most perfect setup 🙏🙏🙏
@DRUMNERD
@DRUMNERD 4 года назад
You have such a gorgeous drum/living room, real drum life goals! Thanks for being such a great drum mentor. Stay Safe.
@r.a.8590
@r.a.8590 4 года назад
Everything Stanton does is classy as hell and just groovy shit. Love it. Great convo and insight from two bad ass drummers.
@xenprovence6126
@xenprovence6126 4 года назад
The Art of Rebound is the practice of keeping one's fulcrum still while the stick moves.
@ThomasMetal75
@ThomasMetal75 3 года назад
I like how Thomas Lang put it once in a lesson video for an online school he was apart of when he said drummers should learn all permutations and sub-permutations of the instrument. His argument was that semi-knowledge is not good. What if you want to play or feel a certain way on the instrument and cannot because you never learned something? It's the same thing with rudimental and jazz/contemporary music. Both approaches are needed, and if you know how to use it and when in your music, you will be able to become valued by other musicians with gig offers left and right.
@ninbotadmin6504
@ninbotadmin6504 4 года назад
Fantastic hang here.
@sharmatime
@sharmatime 4 года назад
amazing gentlemen.
@carlosnovaes6993
@carlosnovaes6993 4 года назад
Great Conversation!! 👏👏👏🙏
@alwilliams1997
@alwilliams1997 4 года назад
awesome interview, cheers Stanton
@TimCarmanMusician
@TimCarmanMusician 4 года назад
Awesome convo!
@KhalDrogo76
@KhalDrogo76 4 года назад
Two of my all time favorite drummers - legends!!
@tmaddrummer
@tmaddrummer 4 года назад
Many thanks..... this was sooooo good!!! Really enjoyed it!
@Thedrummersalmanac
@Thedrummersalmanac 4 года назад
Very cool hang...
@dagconst1
@dagconst1 Год назад
Great interview !
@GediSpock
@GediSpock 4 года назад
This is the best thing I’ve seen in ages. 👊😍😀👌 Two of my favourites sitting chatting. Brilliant to have a 3rd seat. Thanks very much. 🙏
@trevormcmanis
@trevormcmanis 3 года назад
I love that they discussed using the finger as the fulcrum . So many problems come from using the index finger.... IMO and experience....
@portnickos
@portnickos 4 года назад
Hey, I know this duo!!! 😜 This interview is soooo cool...Keith is an amazing drummer and a hell of a guy!! Gotta love these SMDA interviews! Thanks for doing this, Stanton! 🙏🙏🙏
@LittleDrummerChannel
@LittleDrummerChannel 4 года назад
Two of the best...thanks guys!! Love what you both do!! 😎✌
@cymbalspecialist
@cymbalspecialist 4 года назад
Thanks Stanton & Keith. Stories of personal evolution on the instrument are really helpful. We are all trying to figure out how to let go and let it happen, but all the technical instruction points drummers in the other direction. Truth is, we all have to evolve on our own. These conversations shed some light on that path.
@markomarkovic5729
@markomarkovic5729 4 года назад
Yes, it's easy to get lost among a bunch of tutorials, because there are many different aspects that are important, and playing drums can be a whole science. The way you hold the stick, the fulcrum, the way you sit, various techniques behind each stroke, the foot technique... But one of the most important things is to be relaxed behind the kit. I was terribly tight, and I was exhausted after 30 minutes of playing, but after I finally managed to be more loose and to not think about it too much, everything become much easier and my wrists no longer suffer. Also, a very important thing is not holding your breath while playing. I know I'm Captain Obvious, but I was really struggling with these things.
@SKragseth
@SKragseth 4 года назад
More!!! Please
@johnrobinson8323
@johnrobinson8323 4 года назад
Another awesome video! I'm older than you guys but right now I'm going through trying to loosen up. I'm switching my fulcrum to the middle finger at times and it's really opening up new ways of playing for me.
@JulianFernandez
@JulianFernandez 4 года назад
thanks so much
@kevinmoore4237
@kevinmoore4237 11 месяцев назад
I'm a huge fan of both of you and thank you for this and all your youtube stuff and books/cds of which I've bought them all. The thing that got me to this video today is trying to find out whether and how Steely Dan and Donald Fagen use click tracks, especially live. When I compare the two new live albums (Northeast Corridor and Nightfly) the tempos are pretty much exactly like the studio versions and stay right on the money all the way through. Another thing I'm really curious about, which might be before your time, is that Wendal drum machine. I guess it was invented at exactly the same time that Linn was working on his first drum machine. Not even sure what my question would be but anything about Wendal would be very interesting. Thanks in advance.
@stantonmooremusic
@stantonmooremusic 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for turning in. 🙏🏼 I admittedly don’t know anything about the Wendal Drum machine, but I will try to find out! 🙌🏼
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 4 года назад
I don’t know if this is up your alley for content for RU-vid vs your premium site, but I would love if you did a walk-through tour of your studio space. Hearing you two briefly discuss it, I’d love the full tour from the outside door, to every little knock and cranny between!
@stantonmooremusic
@stantonmooremusic 4 года назад
Mike Malone that’s a good idea!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 4 года назад
Stanton Moore Ooooo man, I’m excited! Walk me through all those drums too! I geek out over that stuff
@misfit2022
@misfit2022 4 года назад
Seriously good drummer and up there at the top end of the drumming scale
@CaliforniaBushman
@CaliforniaBushman 2 года назад
As a deciple of watching Keith play with Wayne Krantz at the 55 Bar in NY. From 5 ft away for years. To get better technique as a drummer, I agree with Stanton. Middle finger is better than index fulcrum for matched grip on a kit. Only because I used to be only index fulcrum. A drumline and classical thing for snare and timpani? I worked for a few years to switch it to middle finger. Now years later, it feels natural and engages the ring and little pinky more in the music. Which is what you need on any instrument. Tony was a deciple of this. And most pros I see live, use middle finger fulcrum. Depending on the situation, I'll play palms down. Thumbs up. Or in between. I think you should be able to switch up techniques. And at 55 years old, Moeller helps keep you away from tendin problems, tennis elbow, trigger finger, or worse, carpel tunnel.
@TomBelknapRoc
@TomBelknapRoc 4 года назад
Great video, great discussion. I really didn't completely learn to appreciate hand grips and their importance until just recently, when I decided to try switching to traditional grip. But Stanton's point about feeling like "my hands and fingers are just there to keep the stick from flying away" is a sensation I can definitely confirm. I've spent many hours in the last year, just concentrating on keeping my hands as loose as possible. Totally trying out the middle finger fulcrum thing tonight! Maybe I can finally hit that Soul swung sixteen sound??
@markomarkovic5729
@markomarkovic5729 4 года назад
There are so many aspects when it comes to playing drums (it's a whole science), but the most important thing is to be relaxed behind the kit. I was sooo tight, and I was exhausted after just 30 minutes of playing, but when I finally managed to be more loose and to not think too much, everything become much easier and my wrists no longer suffer. Even breathing is also important, because people tend to hold their breath
@TomBelknapRoc
@TomBelknapRoc 4 года назад
@@markomarkovic5729 It's not a sport, but it is an all-body experience. You can't separate one aspect of your physiology from another for the purposes of making music. Its one of the great beauties of the instrument!
@matthewhloros5330
@matthewhloros5330 4 года назад
Thank you for this. I feel more comfortable playing with some of the techniques both of you described. Loose, pinky off the stick, different fulcrums....but in the back of mind, I would think...this is wrong, your compensating....but as you said Stanton, if your pinky is off the stick....who cares. I’m going to embrace this process of change and getting loose. Stuff I needed to hear. Thank you again
@michaelanderson2881
@michaelanderson2881 4 года назад
Tommy Igoe also says "who cares" to the pinky, as long as you don't stick it straight out and get tense. (Great Hands for a Lifetime DVD.) Your pinky will finds its own way. So that's a few good sources.
@markomarkovic5729
@markomarkovic5729 4 года назад
@@michaelanderson2881 Great Hands For a Lifetime and Groove Essentials were crucial for me. Tommy Igoe is such a great drummer and instructor
@Not_Andrew_Huberman
@Not_Andrew_Huberman 3 года назад
Yeah man
@t3hgir
@t3hgir 2 года назад
I was looking through my recommended videos and noticed recently tons of Keith Carlock solos and live clinic videos popping up. I think the algorithm was trying to say something...
@stantonmooremusic
@stantonmooremusic 2 года назад
Nice! 🙌🏼
@andym28
@andym28 3 года назад
Who was the loose drummer with the beanie in the intro?
@regaltip8A
@regaltip8A 4 года назад
Would love to know what happened with Toto. They made a big deal on their website proclaiming Keith as their new drummer basically 5 mins later he is no longer their drummer.
@Tristanrgreene11
@Tristanrgreene11 3 года назад
Villaboy yes! and being as big of a kc fan through all of the sounds of krantz and steely dan etc, as I am of Toto so, it was like a dream in my dorky ass musical mind come true that my fav drummer aside from jeff Porcaro was going to be in Toto. Not only was I a little jealous in my silly mind, only in the vein of Keith not being a huge Toto super fan as I of course... haha. Ya know it’s like the gig you dreamt of in your head from when your a kid to current time, and even in that amount of time I was just seeing and eating up all Jeff’s music including Toto and jeff had already been gone ten years... that’s a trip in it’s own thought. Taking many more hours Then eating up the other ends of time with Toto with all the Simon stuff that was just enough different in so many ways but yet encompassed where Toto had gone direction wise in the next form of what Toto was and sounded like. Then at about the same time I had just starting hearing and then downloading many many krantz live sets from his site after the time Keith spent with steely dan for 2 or three years I totally fell in love with Keith’s sound and learned so much by just listening over and over to the organized madness of the krantz thing, so I was totally split with those directions of drumming and styles, drastically different sounds and approaches but yet all grooved so hard with a great sound and knowing exactly who was playing the drums. I’m sure Keith dug Toto and prob even more after playing all the other Toto eras and sounds but got a kick out of the fact that he just ate it all up in a short period of time tune wise and played down the gig, knowing he prob didn’t know all the catalog prob before doing the Toto record etc. however all in all I feel Keith grooves way harder than shannon and it’s totally a preference thing. Shannon being such a huge Porcaro fan as I am I surely loved that and loved that he got into that whole thing going for that sound instead of the Simon thing was great and what I’ve would have done, I just felt as if Keith would have had more time to really encompass all the Toto thing and really dug in with that band at the time would have been heaven for me. I just blahhed ten run on sentences about drum dorkdum but hopefully that made some sense or at least one could tell how much that music means to me as a player and a real fan it was great to see that happen even if it was a short time and it also gave someone with the same love for jeff a shot at hAving his dream job drum gig as the drummer of Toto was great and By the end of the tour he was just about there. The only knit picky thing that made me crazy was shannon sat way back on the groove and played the tempos so slow it was so hard for me to not lose my mind listening Toto play love even though most would never notice and the older Toto fans would love to see the Jeff thing back after so many years, that would be why I know Keith could have mad the Toto thing so hot cus he knows how the sit back but makes the music always forward moving and grooving that it’s magic. Ok I’m done I think people get i love all this haha.
@danlc95
@danlc95 Год назад
I LOVE what he did with them. Jeff was one of my favorites since the beginning. Keith had that swing and gravitas in his playing that really built a great foundation for the rest of the band. Keith is exceptional.
@ChristopherSmithNYC
@ChristopherSmithNYC 10 месяцев назад
Better snare drum Carlocks or Moores?
@dizzolve
@dizzolve Год назад
10:20 is that not the most succinct definition of what the philosophy of technique should be?
@Karch.Dah-Veed
@Karch.Dah-Veed 3 года назад
Titans.
@palmersmith7959
@palmersmith7959 4 года назад
Who is the drummer at 2:56? I can’t hear his name... Johnny what?
@RJP37
@RJP37 4 года назад
Johnny Vidacovich
@markomarkovic5729
@markomarkovic5729 4 года назад
@@RJP37 He's from New Orleans, right?
@soncries
@soncries 4 года назад
Stanton sounds like Steve-O
@theicnot
@theicnot 4 года назад
Stanton, let me ask you,,,,Ever experienced the elbow issues?
@jamessbca
@jamessbca 4 года назад
theicnot, whatcha got? I'm getting some elbow issues here in my mid-40's :( I'm not a pro - did tons of rudimenal drumming when I was younger, not a lot lately by any means. Do you have some elbow issues going on? Mine are likely from the way I've sat at my desk for many years :(
@theicnot
@theicnot 4 года назад
@@jamessbca I have been experiencing some issues, rather painful, in my left elbow,,,, Things got progressively worse with use of the German grip, that I have been utilizing lately more than other ways of holding a stick. It seems that the pronation of the thumb aggravated some muscles and nerves in the brachioradialis area. And weightlifting did not help. I hope that some mature people might be interested in Stanton's and Keith's playing and willing to share things that we all experience,,,,
@farshimelt
@farshimelt 4 года назад
@@theicnot I had elbow pain when I was weightlifting. I stopped and a month later the pain was gone and never returned. I suspect it was from lifting to much weight. If you are relaxed with the German grip it shouldn't cause you any pain. I've noticed a lot of drummers who play backbeats all the time slam the stick down from the elbow. Watch yourself play, in the mirror, and notice your motion.
@theicnot
@theicnot 4 года назад
@@farshimelt Thanks for the input.
@farshimelt
@farshimelt 4 года назад
@@theicnot You're welcome, I hope it helps.
@batouttahell454
@batouttahell454 4 месяца назад
These two must buy their clothes at the same exact Store and see the same Barber .
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