Ken Norton || LOSSES 

Overrated never won the belt didn't win it in the ring 1 defense & lost Jerry Coney bet ken in th÷ 1 round ..stop it .ok fighter not a good champion

What win beat ali once broke ali jaw cause ali was playing around don't over do if

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Ali wasnt a superior boxer at that point. He was ring savy enough to use his natural advantages, against the big hitters, who all were slower than him and the swarmers, who were all smaller than him. Those who could outmuscle him, would gass out trying to keep up on points and those who could keep up had to take 3 punches before they could get close enough to land one. Norton was as big as Ali, as strong as Ali bodywise, had as big of a reach, had stamina, and could hit strong enough to keep Ali constantly on the backfoot. So, it all came down to skill, and Ali's deficiencies, especially on the defensive end, were being exposed round after round.

@mskidi Ali was always a superior boxing to all of them. Norton was just a hard punching awarkward fighter that had Ali number. You always run into guys like that that give you hell because they have an unconventional approach and movements that offset your rhythm. That's why I equated that fight to those fights that I described. Especially Pep and Saddler, Pep was definitely always the superior boxing out of the two. But Saddler's wiry cobra like strength used to wear him out. And smother his attempts to mount a sufficient enough offense to contreract his steady and relentless countering attempts .

@@michaelwilks6268 Pep was a scientific fighter, Ali wasnt even close to one. He had enough physical tools in his arsenal to allow him to excel without being one.

@mskidi That's bullshit, and all that's needed for me to prove myself right. Is to point to the three fights in which he showcased, in my opinion, the most veracious evidence for me having this opinion in the first place. Which were the Liston, Williams, and Forman fights. His agility and quickness did not win those fights for him exclusively, His mastery of the ring and his above average ring prowess is what won the day in those fights. Not just his fleet feet and fast hands. He out boxed Liston before he beat him down, and he out boxed Forman in the same manner. Before he wore him out and took his crown. Whatever, you might think of the rope a dope. He was out boxing Forman while laying on those ropes. And as for the Cleveland big cat, Williams fight That was like watching the Nicholas Brothers or Baryshnikov and Michael Jackson all rolled up into one. It was simply superb,extraordinary, mesmerizing indescribable all these words and more, more, more. Also, let's investigate the latter stages of his career. Where you can't blame your hypnosis of his speed of his hands and the fleetness of his feet. The fights that I'm referring to are the Spinks and Shavers fights. You mean to tell me that wasn't superior boxing that he exhibited to regain his title in that fight. No matter how slow the delivery might have looked. And if he had lost his mind and tried to slug with Shavers what do you think that the outcome would have been. You can say that about Roy Jones because we all witnessed his demise. After his speed and natural attributes waned and erode over the years but not Ali. Ali was a Zen Master in the pugglists' art.

@@michaelwilks6268 The Listons, the Cleveland Williams, the Foremans, the Lyles, the Shavers, all of'em werent gonna beat Ali in a million years. He was as big as as them, he was faster than them, he could connect from more angles than them, he'd tie them up and mandhandle them, the moment they managed to connect and because they were punching with full strength, they'd get tired by round 5. Them especially, could never beat Ali, but not because he was some complete master of the boxing art. His defense was attrocious, he couldnt defend a left hook to save his life, his inside fighting was non existent, he couldnt punch hard with either hand whilst light on his feet, rarely he threw any combos but a 1-2, he couldnt stand and trade, but he was tall, big, fast, smart, could jab, could move and could tie, could eat a good punch and thats about all you need in boxing. You know who put up a boxing clinic vs Foreman? Jimmy Young boxed the heck out of that fight.

yes I noticed that remember Shavers and Foreman? I liked kenny he was my favorite I like Norton the boxer and Norton the man and Norton the boxer.

Yeah he was pretty much tall version of fraizier

They were both trained by Eddie Futch . Frazier was tougher and harder hitter but Norton had a really good jab and probably more skillful

No he wasn't what top fighter get knock out twice in the 1st round he a ok fighter never the belt in the ring never won the belt bck 2 defense of the belt he lost overrated lol

WOW! You are knowledgeable of boxing I eat ,sleep and drink boxing for many years but I still can learn from people like you. You are sharp as nails.

Ken overrated no matter what u say did not win the belt in the ring never won the belt 1st title defense he lost Jerry knock him out in the 1st round lol please stop 😅

And who did ken beat lol😊

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Honestly I don't

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💯 percent..!! Ali lost all 3 fights to Ken Norton... Ali is an all time great NOT the greatest of all time.. A matter of fact Larry Holmes was more accomplished..!!

that's what you get for thinking

​@@deanvoss7098Ali after layoff out of peak condition with speed reflexes and stamina won 2out of 3 //prime for prime Ali wouldn't have lost the first.. Ali in 66 vs chuvalo had the stamina to throw over 100 punches and land 100 in ROUND 15.. Norton wasn't contesting with the speed of prime Ali //Ali cooper 2 go watch the speed//Ali vs Patterson 1 go watch the speed//Ali toy with earnie Terrell//Ali vs Williams..

Nobody have ever found the tape and upload it to RU-vid

Ali was wayy older than Holmes was when he fought Norton. Ali was a better all around fighter when he was Holmes age. And don't forget that government -imposed layoff.

norton was past his prime with holmes if he was 5 yeats younger he would have beaten holmes

I watch it over 22 times I still say Ali won against Norton in 2 but in 3 it is draw

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Good point. Muhammad Ali part one was unbeatable . A heavyweight floating gliding flying and stinging around the ring like a lightning welterweight. Ali also had a great chin and stamina.

Ali part one was the best boxer pound for pound of all time. Imagine a heavyweight floating around the ring like a welterweight..

Ali won the 15th Rd of 3rd fight to secure win

I can't agree with you more. Don Dunphy was horrible. In the first Ali/Frazier fight he kept saying how can Frazier take this kind of going over. Yeah Ali had his rounds but Joe wasn't just in there taking it he was dishing out a lot as well. The best thing about his announcing is when he wouldn't say anything for a minute or so a round.

Ali's punches always looked weak, even when he KOed people. He was gifted decisions but I don't think you're being totally honest here

I agree with you. Ali was never the same fighter after his 3 and 1/2 year exile from 1967-70. He arguably lost all 3 Norton fights, as well as Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young, Ernie Shavers, among others. Ali got the constant benefit of the doubt from announcers, judges, many fans, etc... I’m not sure why.

@@frederickrapp5396 At that point, he was too big to fail...too much money to be made...Don King lording over it all etc.

@@umarb7325 How? He was a great champion but after Manila, he was winning with smoke and mirrors. The Spinks loss was so overwhelming, a decision in his favor would have been so much of a travesty, the sport would have lost all of its credibility.

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They were good friends and refused to fight.

Frazier wasn't a big puncher like shavers cooney or foreman

@@obama7828 he was s puncher, especially the left hook. I agree tho not in the level of shavers or forman. Coony also had extrodenery power Frazer v norton would had been very very interesting . They spared together alot apparently .

@@obama7828 yes he was His hook was devastating. Especially before and during the first Ali fight. Frazier would have KOed Norton

Yes he had a good left hook. That was his only punch with crushing power. The others could hit you with any type of punch. Frazier doesn't have mostly early knockouts because most of his knockouts are because of his style

are you nuts what utter nonsense

Wrong

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That's awesome, always wanted to see that KO.

Was Norton ever in control of the first Garcia fight, or was he on the defensive throughout? Was there any luck involved or did Garcia clearly outsmart, outthink him?

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He was a fab boxer against boxers, but against sluggers he was mr.wobbly.

More like underappreciated, wdym overrated, no one talks about him these days and if anything he was underrated.

Agree a fab boxer against boxer. However when he came across sluggers he was mr. Wobberly.

Agree he was a fab boxer against boxer but was mr. Wobbly against the sluggers.

Second fight? Don't you mean third fight??

@@carlodonn8983 yeah. My bad.

The only fight Ali lost was the first one and that was by split decision

Norton admitted he lost the second fight The old saying you have to knock the champ out

​@@romienomieAlso in the Third fight he didn't even beat Ali.. he just showing aggression and struggle to land cleanly on Ali

As Angelo Dundee said ,,styles make fights. Yes against Ali, Norton was magnificent. However against the sluggers, Foreman Cooney and shavers he was mr. Wobbly