We're back!!! Thank you all for watching. Also congrats to Elliott for being named No. 5 on Complex's Top Media Personalities list! You can check out his reaction here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IOP0hxoIRVk.html Also people have been asking, we are finally on AUDIO: Listen on Spotify here: open.spotify.com/show/1qnAk8Ti0GPKVtCz9epYXy
honestly what a trio. Elliott is messy but in the know, Jeremy is the knowledgeable but naive and Hed is an authoritative contrarian. Incredible dynamic for a pod. Thanks for your commentary guys.
Sooooo Drake is hip hop but Donald Glover ain’t?!?!!?!? We really double, triple, and quadrupling down on this terrible take huh?!?!? I’m like DJ Hed….”what did he do to you?” I’m convinced he curved him on an interview or sum. Prove me wrong lol.
I'm South African (born & raised). Always been a fan of music from LA/The Bay but I've Learnt so much about the context of LA culture since I've heard from DJ Hed.♨️
You don’t have to make rap music 24/7 to be “in the culture”. Its not “hopping in and out of the culture” to be multi-faceted. How does Childish Gambino not have a connection to the culture because he doesn’t rap all the time?? Dude is literally from Atlanta 😂 there’s nothing wrong with him participating in other facets of his personality and creativity. That doesn’t make him any less black or less connected to typical black culture. The problem is that Elliott is conflating blackness with one particular type of behavior/personality and its just ignorant IMO.
Saying childish gambino doesn’t identify or make music as a hip hop artist is wrong but still less insane than saying Donald glover is not apart of hip hop culture.
I dont know how its possible to say that Gambino is cosplaying a rap image. His expression as a rapper has always been authentically him. He was called nerdy or cringey for it a lot coming up lol, never trying to be something hes not
One of my favorite things about the battle is that I've been introduced to DJ Hed...he's the best part of this pod to me and I love his pod with Gina Views also 💯
Saying Donald isn't hip hop is like saying Andre 3stax ain't hip hop. Dre plays the flute now instead of rapping...Sometimes REAL artists explore different terrains outside of RAP music, but it doesn't negate their roots in the culture.
Issa Rae is not hip-hop?! She literally puts hip-hop in the fabric of everything she’s produces! Same with Donald (for the most part). We saying these people not hip-hop but got Adam22 on hip-hop media lists 😂
Your taking Elliot Wilson personal taste some sort of final say and who’s hip-hop or not? He stated his personal opinion he doesn’t care for Childish Gambino’s music. That’s his personal opinion. Don’t take it personal. not everybody got a like everybody.
This is NOTTTTT the best year of hip hop…….. prisoners of the moment…… the best/ most exciting year in a very long time, hell yes!!! Best year ever…… musically? Negative. 1996 had The Fugees (The Score), Ghostface (Iron Man), Jay Z (Reasonable Doubt), Tupac (All Eyes On Me & Makaveli), A Tribe Called Quest (Beats, Rhymes, And Life), De La Soul (The Stakes Is High), Heltah Skeltah, Mobb Deep (Hell On Earth), Nas (It Was Written), OutKast (ATLIENS), The Roots (Illadelph Half-life), Busta Rhymes (The Coming), Redman (Muddy Waters), Lil Kim (Hardcore), UGK (Ridin Dirty), and Heltah Skeltah (Operation Lockdown) all drop…… all classics…… just in 1996…… stop being prisoners of the moment lol!
Exactly! I’m like he can never get mad at ppl saying he ain’t in the culture, literally his DJ Khaled song is titled “Pop Star”.. I’m like how has no one mentioned this yet??
These people are weird, it easy to say yeah I stepped over line , my bad, and we can go on from there. But they can't. They'll do anything except apologize
Let’s go!! This was my favorite episode yet. The chemistry we’re building feels like something special!! And congrats to Elliott on No. 5 on the complex list 🎉 next year we all eat lol. Thanks for watching
I enjoy the show! One thing about the Kendrick and Drake beef I didn’t realize how the old heads CAP so much for Drake. DJ Hed thank you for keeping it West Coast.
19:20 The Game was shady AF. The fact that he hesitated before answering, "I don't know," to the question of who's better lyrically, Kendrick or Drake... Ooh, child - even back then the jealousy was oozing out of Mr. Taylor. He definitely wasn't invited to the Pop Out.
AOTY: 1. ScHoolboy Q - BLUE LIPS 2. Future & Metro Boomin - We Don’t Trust You 3. Lupe Fiasco - Samurai 4. Vince Staples - Dark Times 5. J. Cole - Might Delete Later 6. Common & Pete Rock - The Auditorium, Vol. 1 7. Benny The Butcher - Everybody Can’t Go 8. Conway The Machine - Slant Face Killah 9. Rapsody - Please Don’t Cry 10. 21 Savage - American Dream HM: Eminem - The Death Of Slim Shady
snippet at the beginning of not like us so fire i love how the west coast got a sound u cant replicate and am looking forward to more regional shit from Dot.
"he hasn't rapped in 10 years" "stop sending me old ass clips" "Jay Electronica? it doesn't matter about putting out stuff, it's about your cultural connection" And Issa Rae is "close"
I feel like you can’t have this opinion on Gambino if you don’t feel the same about Drake either. Either they’re both hip hop or they both are not hip hop. That simple.
Yes he is - Elliot's take is rooted in "coded" black micro aggressions. If Elliot wants his myopic subjective view taken seriously, then he needs to root his argument in the 4 pillars of hip hop. Preferably in essay format
Suggestion: Place a monitor of the stuff on screen in front of the talent so they don't have to turn their heads to see the visual aids. Seems uncomfortable, and the flow isn't high as it could be. Dope 'cast guys 🔥🔥
Really appreciate the perspectives you all bring on The Bigger Picture. Some of the most knowledgeable and balanced perspectives in Hip Hop media right now.
I'm starting to really like this the more they move away from "Oh we talk about rap and we're in the Industry" and move closer to just being fans and geeking out, the more I just let the episodes play. Really Dope when it just sounds like 3 rap dudes spamming their favourite little unknown facts/moments to each other
Elliott must smoking something family matters at 3, the record came and went, Carnival is top 3 this year, this is a record the industry didn't want to be number 1, it still went number 1. Elliott can't get off Drake's nuts
Y'all have to pick a side or a lie! 😂 How in 1 breath can you say Drake is the best rapper, emcee, lyricist, etc of "all time" yet also say this very same man lost a battle b/c he wasn't able to focus on his target. Drake literally released 🗣FOUR RECORDS!!! He only dissed other rappers on Family Matters. Drake, the best rapper, emcee, lyricist, blah blah blah had THREE other opportunities to demolish his opponent but he FAILED miserably. I cannot be the only 1 scratching my head at these "he couldn't focus" narratives as if the battle was 1v1 record. 😂
@@CeeCeeMarie.Hmmmm I can see that but this narrative have been the same on other platforms. He dissed rappers on 1 song. Drake had all the opportunity in the world to go for Kendrick head before he even released Euphoria but he failed. So, everyone in general focusing on Family Matters is hilarious to me. Drake couldn't stand a chance. Every lyricist he battled he LOST so lyricist he is not. A good rapper? Yes.
@@user-pz4vb9cu8u I agree with you 100%. I don’t know if you have been listening to this podcast since the beginning, but Elliot used to be extremely biased towards Drake and DJ Hed was a biased towards Kendrick. But Hed admitted it because they are friends. Drake called Elliot a rat and now Elliot is leaning towards Kendrick more, but still has one nostril in Drake’s ass hoping he’ll come back around to him. And Hed is just being graceful (ala Ab Soul’s tweet about Drake’s redemption) because he stands behind Kendrick and views Drake as a pop artist not a rap artist. And being nice to Drake today does not change his stance that Kendrick is the better lyricist with the better disses. And I do remember him saying in the past that it was Drake‘s choice to not focus on Kendrick… and he had no choice because he didn’t have enough dirt on Kendrick to make an entire song out of him.
That Might Delete Later project was still a very solid project, even if the lyrics didn't age well. "Pi" Is still my top 5 songs of the year tbh. The way Daylyt n Ab soul then Cole finishes the song is just a lyrical massacre..
Elliott could stand to follow up his "that's just how I feel" opinions with actual arguments for why he feels that way about things. Even if it doesn't change anyone's mind, it would at least make the perspective seem less arbitrary. As it stands though, providing zero context as to why Donald Glover is allegedly "cosplaying" hip-hip, except repeating over and over that he just "feels that way", doesn't convince anyone who wasn't already predisposed to think so. Just because everyone's entitled to their subjective opinion doesn't mean anyone should entertain uninformed or unsubstantiated ones.
Yup, he doesn't know to spot the new new...he rides the wave. He blew off Nelly (no Diddy) because he probably thought he was too country to be hip-hop, back in the day.
Drake clearly didn't have enough amo to make it consistently about kendrick so he tried to run that 20 v 1 crap for fillers.... ninja make a sampler record for them and give KDOT his own record you got enough writers
